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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]Pac-12 men's psych sheets released, 3 potential Murphy-Nolan matchups lined up[/COLOR][/SIZE]



[SIZE=1]Though there's still plenty of scratching left to be done before the meet begins Wednesday night, we've got up to three match-ups slated between Cal star Ryan Murphy and his Stanford counterpart Dave Nolan. Archive Photo via Tim Binning/TheSwimPictures.com[/SIZE]


http://swimswam.com/pac-12-psych-sheets-3-potential-murphy-nolan-matchups/


[COLOR="#008000"][SIZE=3]Psych Sheets:[/SIZE][/COLOR] http://cdn.swimswam.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/2015P12MSC_PsychSheet.pdf


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[COLOR="#0066cc"][SIZE=3]2015 Pac-12 Men's Championships - [COLOR="#FF8C00"]Entries, Seeding & Live Results[/COLOR]:[/SIZE][/COLOR] http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/results/2015-pac-12-mens-championships-live-results/ncaa-college/2015/March/4


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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#000066"]Cal Looks For Third Straight Pac-12 Title[/COLOR][/SIZE]





http://www.calbears.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30100&ATCLID=209922587

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Any predictions? It seemed to me that the men's team performed extremely well in duel meets, etc, throughout the season. The men went out aggressively and took the lead in most events and usually held on for victory. I watched some of the men and womens meets and actually felt that the men performed better...Did anyone else reach a similar conclusion? The men didn't have any major deficiencies or weaknesses (like the women's breast stroke ) in swimming events. Perhaps-diving was their Achilles heel but, bottomline, the men's swim team seemed really strong this season to my novice fan's eyes.

Feedback insiders? Thankyou. I'll predict that Cal will three-peat with another Pac 12 Championship...Women and Men will both be 2015 champs!! GO BEARS!

Durden and Teri have different coaching strategies and their teams are built differently. Former Auburn coach David Marsh mentored Durden and the Marsh model is sprint centered teams who taper late to maximize their performance at NCAAs.

Teri's teams have great relays, but they're more stroke centered (especially fly and back) than sprint centered. Teri's teams can overwhelm teams in stroke clusters (200 iM, 200 free, both backs) and she gets the bulk of her team qualified mid-season so they don't have too much pressure at Pac-12s.

Durden has fewer stars, but better depth. Other than Lynch, the freshmen haven't looked great. He also has a relay problem since several sprinters (Fabio, Chung) are needed for relays and are nowhere near qualifying yet. Off the top of my head think Durden has around 7 or 8 swmmers already safely into NCAAs while Teri had nearly twice as many before Pac-12s. Swimmers to watch are Fabio, Chung, Gornay, Green, Janardan, and Kao. All need to step up at Pac-12s since they'll be needed at NCAAs.

Bears won't have any competition for the team title at Pac-12s, so NCAA qualifications is the only suspense. Durden finally used scholly money for a diver, so competition for roster spots will be fiierce. With possibly one less swimmer available to accommodate Finn, Durden really doesn't want any relay only swimmers, so the relays may be sub-optimal at NCAAs if not everybody qualifies .

Texas looks seriously tough right now with zero holes, depth, and potentially 3 scoring divers. Earlier in the season I thought the women had no shot vs Georgia, but now I think the women have the better chance at an NCAA title than the men. Men have the better dual meet team than the women, but Texas men are a stronger, better balanced team than the Geotgia women.

Durden's men are undefeated in duals the past three years, and are gunning for their 3rd straight Pac12s and 4th of the past five NCAAs; these boys are very competitive and simply do not like to lose, even if it's a relatively meaningless mid-season dual meet vs Arizona or USC. Teri's team has been upset by much less talented teams like Texas this year and USC last year. Obviously, those results don't mean much in the grand NCAA scheme, but still head-scratchers for me personally.

As BD points out, Durden's teams are sprint based with the Adrian, Moore,Messerschmidt,Stubblefield core, but usually feature a stud breaststroke crew trained by Nort.

As for team balance, the men have a hole in distance, but I expect some decent time drops from Burns and Kao this week. Runge really is a key player for Teri versus Georgia. The men have another deep group of breast strokers, although Hoppe and Cobleigh probably will be on a "midi" taper to get an NCAA invite time at Pac12s. The women's breast stroke ills are well noted. Neither Cal squad has a scoring lock in diving.

I actually believe that the men will score about the same points in relays compared to the women, as I believe Durden will find a way to add a sprinter to Seth, Ryan and Tyler while Teri's medleys need a breast stroker. However, the surest relay bet appears to be the women's 800 free relay.

Like others, I think Missy, Liz, Cierra, Boots et al have a real shot against the favored Bulldogs. The large point gap from last year vanishes if you don't get a relay DQ, add major points in the 1650 and 500 free and Liz and Boots swim to their lofty talent levels. Should be a very competitive women's meet with Cal, Georgia and Stanford (don't discount the diving points) in it until the end.

The men face a much more formidable task in racing against an extremely deep and talented Texas squad that is getting large performance jumps in their veterans like Conger and amazing production from their frosh.

I was at the Oakland airport this morning waiting for my flight to Phoenix when I ran into Seth Stubblefield in the Peet's line. The team was leaving for Seattle @ the same time from a nearby gate. Seth said he and several others needed to get qualified so were a bit more rested than the few who already were in, but he said that's been Durden's MO since he arrived and he completely trusts the staff. I expect a .5 second drop in Seth's 50 yard free time. I chatted a bit more (Seth is considering medical school after he graduates next December) and wished him and the team good luck and a go bears.

Always a pleasure to hear & learn from BD & dg! Thx also for the Seth anecdote :beer:

I've been much more focused on the women's team than the men's, so need to internally process the wealth of inside info you guys have shared here before I can attempt to make even the tiniest of contribution to the interesting discussion here.

Had previously assumed the Pac-12s title was pretty much for Bears' taking other than for the furd diving advantage...perhaps USC will challenge in some areas, particularly with Quintero in the freestyles and leading their relays? Really rather ignorant of the other teams, esp with regards to how tapered they will be for conference. As you two have already pointed out, quite a number on Durden's squad don't have safe qualifying times yet, and will need to be on point this week to achieve their NCAA cuts.

March will be a much more massive challenge though, with the Horns being the overwhelming favorites courtesy of their intimidating depth across the board and diving strengths. Always look forward to Dave & Yuri impressing with the famous Cal taper at the big meet and getting our squad to improve from prelims to finals, but a bigger uphill clash awaits this time round and we'll need a bunch of those on the bubble to come thru with qualifying @ Pac-12s and carry forward the momentum to the national championship!

As always, Go Bears! :cheer

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men's Pac 12 Conference Championships Fan Guide: Cal Shooting For Three-Peat, But Cardinal and Trojans Will Make it Interesting[/COLOR][/SIZE]



[SIZE=1]Seth Stubblefield and the Cal Bears are shooting for their third Pac 12 team title in a row Current Photo via Tim Binning/TheSwimPictures.com[/SIZE]


The 2015 Men's Pac 12 Swimming and Diving Championships kick off tonight, as the two-time defending Cal look to overcome a big diving deficit from Stanford and USC. The Bears are a bit thinner than a year ago, but with Ryan Murphy, Seth Stubblefield, and Josh Prenot leading the way, Cal is in position to make in it a third straight title en route to their NCAA title defense efforts in late March.

Cal: Chuck Katis (junior breaststroker), Tyler Messerschmidt (senior sprinter), Ryan Murphy (sophomore backstroker), Josh Prenot (junior IMer), Seth Stubblefield (senior sprinter)
These five alone could come close to finishing fourth as a team this weekend. Murphy is biggest name, and the duo of Messerschmidt and Stubblefield have carried the Cal sprint group throughout their respective careers. Prenot is one of the five most well-rounded swimmers in the country.

The Bears should have enough to leapfrog Stanford, but don't be surprised to see the Cardinal keep things close. Look for a big gap between USC/Arizona, and for Utah to give the Wildcats a scare.

1. Cal
2. Stanford
3. USC
4. Arizona
5. Utah
6. Arizona State


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-conference-championships-fan-guide-cal-shooting-for-three-peat-but-cardinal-and-trojans-will-make-it-interesting/


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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#0099cc"]Pac-12 Men's Swimming Championships set for Federal Way[/COLOR][/SIZE]


CALIFORNIA (7-0, 4-0 Pac-12)

Second-ranked CALIFORNIA looks for its third-straight championship after an undefeated dual season for the third season in a row, as the Bears have won 22 straight dual meets dating back to the 2012-13 season. Cal returns the majority of its NCAA Champion roster from last season, including freestyle swimmers in junior Tyler Messerschmidt and senior Seth Stubblefield. Messerschmidt and Stubblefield, along with standout Ryan Murphy, combined for three of the four legs of the winning 200 freestyle relay at Pac-12s last year. Murphy currently holds two of the top times in the nation in the 100 and 200 back, the same events he won NCAA titles in last season. In the other strokes, Chuck Katis and Josh Prenot lead the Bears in the breaststroke while Prenot and Will Hamilton are top performers in the individual medleys.


http://pac-12.com/article/2015/03/03/pac-12-mens-swimming-championships-set-federal-way


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After the Cal women's team success as Pac-12 Champs, now it's the men's turn! Here's to a third consecutive Pac-12 Championship win in Federal Way, WA, March 4-7. Relays kick off Wednesday, March 4, 6 p.m. Check the Pac-12 website to follow the meet and catch TV highlights on Pac-12 Networks, if you can't be there in person. Goooo Bears!

http://pac-12.com/mens-swimming/championships/2015-pac-12-mens-swimming-championships


[COLOR="#800080"][SIZE=3]Live Results:[/SIZE][/COLOR] http://results.teamunify.com/pnws2/


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Nick Silverthorn - Excited to race with the bros at Pac 12s this week #TurnUp #GoBears


[U]Mathias Oh[/U]: Small. It's ok I'll still come watch u tho
[U]Maxime Rooney[/U]: Good luck bro


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Ditto. Thanks to both Bear Devil and dgong for in-depth responses to my questions. In particular, I was not up to speed on the national scene so your perspective is much appreciated. The coaching philosophy differences between McKeever and Durden was also insightful and helpful to me. GO BEARS!

S71,

Happy to share my musings with you. I know you are an ardent follower of Cal sports beyond football and basketball and your contribution on the "Olympic" forum is appreciated.

UAC,

Thanks again for your kind words and major input into the continuing dialogue. I realize Missy and her fellow Olympians attract major fan interest, but it would be a shame if Cal fans didn't get to know the men's team better. Cal's roster is filled with great athletes including 6 on the US national team. Ryan Murphy follows Tom Shields as perhaps the most dominant male swimmer in college. Josh Prenot's versatility is amazing; he is a Pac12 potential scorer in IM, breast, fly and distance free. It will be worth watching to see what Dave chooses for Prenot to swim at Pac12s vs NCAAs.

Katis is a great breast stroker and looks ready to challenge Arizona's Cordes. Seth Stubblefield has been tough as nails on relays throughout his career. We will be losing a great group of seniors, but adding Seliskar,Thomas et al will keep the program as top 2 or 3 in the country.

Cal's highly regarded 2014-2015 frosh class (excluding Justin Lynch) hasn't posted qualifying times yet, but the team seems very confident that things are progressing according to the staff's plan. With so many guys still needing times, the Pac12s will tell help answer a number of questions I have about our chances versus Texas in 3 weeks.

dgong;842462894 said:

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S71,

Happy to share my musings with you. I know you are an ardent follower of Cal sports beyond football and basketball and your contribution on the "Olympic" forum is appreciated.

UAC,

Thanks again for your kind words and major input into the continuing dialogue. I realize Missy and her fellow Olympians attract major fan interest, but it would be a shame if Cal fans didn't get to know the men's team better. Cal's roster is filled with great athletes including 6 on the US national team. Ryan Murphy follows Tom Shields as perhaps the most dominant male swimmer in college. Josh Prenot's versatility is amazing; he is a Pac12 potential scorer in IM, breast, fly and distance free. It will be worth watching to see what Dave chooses for Prenot to swim at Pac12s vs NCAAs.

Katis is a great breast stroker and looks ready to challenge Arizona's Cordes. Seth Stubblefield has been tough as nails on relays throughout his career. We will be losing a great group of seniors, but adding Seliskar,Thomas et al will keep the program as top 2 or 3 in the country.

Cal's highly regarded 2014-2015 frosh class (excluding Justin Lynch) hasn't posted qualifying times yet, but the team seems very confident that things are progressing according to the staff's plan. With so many guys still needing times, the Pac12s will tell help answer a number of questions I have about our chances versus Texas in 3 weeks.

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I really enjoy the informative and interesting posts by UAC, BearDevil and you. Great to read about successful Cal athletes that represent the university so well.

One thing to consider is that men's NCAA invites are proportionally smaller than women's invites to balance scholarship limits (9.9 vs 14). Means the invite cutoff will be 28-29 rather than 38-39.

SwimSwam's Morgan Priestley swam for LSJU (brother swam and played in a Rose Bowl) and makes no bones about his disdain for Cal, but is usually very fair. Just think this article misses the mark. LSJU and 'SC will score a lot of diving points, but neither are as deep as the Bears and even Cal swimmers already in the field need to improve seeds because the Bears have realistic NCAA title aspirations. LSJU and 'SC, not so much. More Bears chasing fewer invites and more incentive to optimize seeds doesn't equate to a close Pac-12 meet.

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men’s Pac 12 Championship: Cal, USC Split Relays to Open Meet[/COLOR][/SIZE]

[COLOR="#696969"]Morgan Priestley | March 04th, 2015[/COLOR]


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-championship-night-1-finals-live-recap/


[U][SIZE=3]200 Medley Relay[/SIZE][/U]

Chuck Katis opened up a lead with a swift 23.67 breaststroke leg, giving Cal just enough room to hold off USC, 1:24.16 to 1:24.39. The Trojans equaled or bettered the Bears in each of the other three relay legs, but the four-tenth differential between Katis and Morten Klarskov made all the difference.

A comparison of the two squads:

Cal:
Murphy – 21.21
Katis – 23.67 (44.88)
Lynch – 20.32 (1:05.20)
Messerschmidt – 18.96 (1:24.16)

USC:
Spinazzola – 21.21
Klarskov – 24.08 (45.29)
Carter – 20.21 (1:05.50)
Condorelli – 18.89 (1:24.39)

Both teams actually trailed after the opening 50, with David Nolan getting Stanford out to an early lead in a blistering 21.13. The Cardinal, however, quickly fell back in the breaststroke lg before a strong fly leg from Andrew Liang (20.35) solidified them in the third spot in 1:25.13.

Despite having the fastest breaststroke (Kevin Cordes at 23.52) and freestyle (Brad Tandy at 18.74) legs in the field, Arizona settled for fourth in 1:25.17. In-state rival Arizona State, who was actually well ahead at the 150 mark, settled for *fifth in 1:25.72, also under the NCAA ‘A’ standard.


[U][SIZE=3]800 Free Relay[/SIZE][/U]

Returning three of four legs from their NCAA championship relay from last March, the USC Trojans pulled away from Stanford over the final leg to win in a time of 6:12.51, crushing the previous Pac 12 Meet record.

The defending champions built an early 2+ second lead behind great opening legs from Dylan Carter (1:33.55) and Reed Malone (1:32.86), but David Nolan closed the gap to just 0.04 with a 1:32.49 third leg that included a 22.9 final 50. Luckily for USC, Cristian Quintero dropped a 1:31.65 over the final 200 to seal the win. That 6:12.51 is now the second fastest time in the country this year, and is more than two seconds under the old, super-suited meet record from 2009.

Stanford finished in second in 6:14.98, which included Nolan and three others (Drew Cosgarea, Tom Kremer, and Thomas Stephens) all swimming between 1:34.0 and 1:34.4. More importantly, that will put the Cardinal in the final heat at NCAA’s (they currently sit 5th nationally). Last season, they finished third overall from the second-fastest heat.

Cal was a distance third in 6:19.30, including a solid a 1:34.39 leadoff from Trent Williams.


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[U]Peter Davis[/U]: "One of the best parts of college swimming is getting to see freshmen at their first conference and NCAAs.

I think that is about a 4 second drop for Conaton – Eego (aka Eugene Godsoe) must be sharing the backstroke knowledge with the youngsters. This probably bodes well for Stanford’s [U]fully-rested[/U] contingent.

Best time of the year started about 6 hours ago. Goes til end of March…

Cal
124.16 will be under123 in a few weeks. Most conservatively there is about .4, .5, .0, .3 room for improvement on each leg which would = 122.9. What I think: 20.51, 22.96, 20.04, 18.48 = 121.99 Tony Cox played the ‘lynchpin’ role on the relays the last two years – he swam the 50/100 fly, 50/100 back, and 50 free on relays at NCAAs for Cal, so it’s fitting that Justin is taking over for him now.
619 not great but it looks like Chill Will had noone to race while anchoring. Will be tough to even crack the top 8 in Iowa without 1-2+ 133s. 616 will be nice for around 7-8th. That’s fast.
Hunter and Jesse punch their tickets, with Dane likely missing by about .3 once 5+ fellow pac-12ers jump him on Saturday.

Stanford
125.13 thought they’d be 124high with a sub24 breaststroker, so not surprised they are nearly a second faster than last year’s best result, a 125.99 at pac-12s. They can get by with a 19low freestyler that can go 19.0 at NCs, but not without a sub24 breaststroker. 124something at NCs.
614.98 really impressive, especially from Nolan. I think they will be up to a second faster in a few weeks for a third place finish in the event for consecutive years. But this year, that won’t be their only relay to make an A final.
Conaton really fast and into the meet as a scoring threat. Mentioned above it’s a good sign for the young and fully-rested group of Cardinal.

USC
124.39 fast but without a sub24 breaststroker(though their B guy went 23.9) it will be tough to compete with the top teams at NCs. I see them right at 124.0 in a few weeks. The relay was balanced very similarly to Cal’s mostly unrested relay, while being quite a bit more ‘ready to go.’
612.51 now this is some seriously House-of-Cards level interesting sh*t right here… last year’s 612.54 and this year’s 612.51 bear an uncanny resemblance. Here are the splits: Carter 133.61(2014)-133.55(2015), Malone 132.85-132.86, Quintero 131.92-131.65, Colupaev/Domagala 134.16-134.45. They were .25 faster in cumulative reaction, which made all the difference in breaking their own record by .03. Emerson said ‘consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds.’ Wilde, ‘consistency is the last refuge of the unimaginative.’ Bierce, ‘Predicament, n.: The wage of consistency.’ I do believe they’d take it all back if they could appreciate the beauty of coaching consistent swimmers, but that they’d also join me in predicting a 612.5 from USC in Iowa this year. ‘They may be dead but they’re not blind.’ -ALF.
Wright, the senior, makes it into the meet.

Zona
125.1 no backstroke leg and weak fly leg kill what could be a 123low relay in a few weeks with ‘average’ 21.5 and 20.5 back and fly legs. Jury is out on this one, but I have a hard time seeing them higher than 4th at NCs, and possibly several spots lower, which is insane with the fastest breaststroker ever and Tandy anchoring. Regardless, they cannot score less points in the event this year than last, so there’s that.
627 uh that’s not good. This is one of Zona’s traditional best events and it shows no potential to score more than a few points at NCs, if that. Only scored 6 points last year with their fastest leg(by over a second) having since graduated. Neethling, Townsend, Basson, Nothing.

Utah and ASU. Good but not great. Both narrowly missing A standards. ASU in the 200mr by .09 and Utah in the 800fr by .99.

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#000066"]Bears Win 200 Medley Relay at Pac-12 Championships[/COLOR][/SIZE]



[SIZE=1]Tyler Messerschmidt, Chuck Katis, Justin Lynch and Ryan Murphy help Bears win Pac-12 title in 200 medley relay
Courtesy: Pac-12 Conference [/SIZE]


http://www.calbears.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30100&ATCLID=209925853


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According to a comment on swimswam,

Hunter Cobleigh — 200 breast — 1:54.89
Dane Stassi — 200 fl — 1:43.90
Jesse Ryckman — 200 back — 1:41.53

These guys swam timed trials. Stassi's 200 fly is probably going to need to be faster, but I think the Cobleigh and Ryckman make the cut.

@RyanJKao: Best feeling in the world is moving your legs around under the covers right after you shave #truth

Go bears!

Mixed bag for the Bears. Mid-season relays were slow, so mission is to improve seeds. 200 medley was 5th before and remains 5th. 800 free is Cal 's weakest relay, but they moved from low 20s to 9th. Still need to be better at NCAAs.

Cobleigh was an unheralded walk on who barely missed scoring in both breasts as a freshman. Solidly in NCAAs now and well-positioned to score. Katie and Prenot are already in, so hopefully frosh Hoppe makes it too.

Jesse's in unless a potential scorer bumps him. Stassi's a UCSD transfer. Bodes well for the team in the main draw if guys are getting in off early time trials.

'SC looks very fast. Their soph class is very strong.

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men’s PAC-12 Championships: Day 2 Prelims Preview, Nolan vs. Murphy Round 1[/COLOR][/SIZE]


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-championships-day-1-prelims-preview-nolan-vs-murphy-round-1/


Day 2 of the 2015 Men’s PAC-12 Championships see the heat sheets fairly intact for this morning, with the only notable scratch coming in the 500 freestyle. Cary Wright, a junior out of USC, was sitting in the 18th seeded spot with his time of 4:26.50, but looks to have opted out of that race in favor of the 200 IM as his focus on the day.

The men’s 500 sees Utahs Bence Kiraly (4:17.40) as its top seed in the event, leading heat 5 of 5 this morning. He will be flanked by last night’s fastest 200 free splitter in the 800 free relay event, USC’s Cristian Quintero, who sits as the 7th seed, as well as Cal sophomore Long Gutierrez from Cal. Adam Hinshaw leads heat 4 of 5 this morning in the event, as the senior from Cal is positioned as the 2nd seed with his time of 4:18.74. Stanford’s Jimmy Yoder and Cal’s Ryan Kao are listed as exhibitioning the event.

Later in the morning we will be treated to one of several match-ups between heavyweights Stanford senior David Nolan and Cal sophomore Ryan Murphy in the 200 IM race. Look for them to go head-to-head in lanes 4 and 5, respectively out of the prelims’ final heat. Murphy’s Cal teammate Jacob Pebley will be right in the mix as well, sitting as the 10th seed, but right next to Murphy to have a pace-setter during the contest. Josh Prenot from Cal will lead heat 5 of 6, situated in the middle of the pool in his heat to set-up his evening swim against the mega-stacked field.

The 50 free is the third individual event on the docket for today, which contains several big names gunning to get to the wall in a frenzied first place. Look for Arizona’s Brad Tandy, Cal teammates Tyler Messerschmidt and Seth Stubblefield, as well as Utah’s Nick Soedel as just some of the top players to make a move in the event. Murphy was technically on the psych sheets for the event, but is a not-too-terribly surprising scratch for the race. Tandy is the only swimmer coming into the meet already having an NCAA automatic qualifying time, which means virtually everyone will be firing on all cylinders to make the most of their prelim swims in an effort to get the cut, but also position themselves in the best spot to take a shot at the PAC-12 title.


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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men’s Pac-12 Championships: Day 2 Prelims Live Recap[/COLOR][/SIZE]


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-championships-day-2-prelims-live-recap/


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800 free is Cal 's weakest relay, but they moved from low 20s to 9th. Still need to be better at NCAAs.

Seems they all swam to qualify and everyone swim 1:34-1:35 range with the slowest the anchor Will Hamilton who maybe shut it down after seeing how far the other 2 teams were ahead. Looking for big improvement from them in the NCAA 'ship.

Current relay rankings: 400 free (25th), 200 free (16th), 400 medley (7th). Want to be somewhere in the top 4 or 5 before NCAAs to swim last at prelims with a decent lane.

BearDevil;842463138 said:

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Current relay rankings: 400 free (25th), 200 free (16th), 400 medley (7th). Want to be somewhere in the top 4 or 5 before NCAAs to swim last at prelims with a decent lane.

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No one has posted anything on the prelims yet. Wondering how Cal is doing on their 2nd day. Without counting all of the A's, B's, and C's qualifiers, the Furds seem to be doing better than expected (imo) with 5 swimmers qualifying in the 200IM A group & 3 in the 500 A group. If you layer in the diving tonight, it wouldn't surprise me if the Furds take the lead tonight. Were people (experts) expecting us to do better in the prelims?

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men's Pac 12 Champs: Day 1 Up/Mid/Down Analysis Stanford to Build on Lead[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Current scores, including diving, 200 medley relay, and 800 free relay:

1. Stanford 209
2. USC 197
3. Arizona 137
4. ASU 107
5. Cal 103
6. Utah 92

After this morning's session, it doesn't look like Cal is going to make up any diving disadvantages on the Cardinal. In fact, it looks like Stanford's going to increase their lead on the Golden Bears. The big event for Stanford is the 200 IM, where they put FIVE swimmers into the A final. They also put 3 up in the 500, which was USC's biggest event as well. Cal's strength today was in the 50 free, where they put 3 up, more than any other team.

Stanford should put some distance from the rest of the pack after tonight, while USC won't give up very much to the chasing Cal, and the Trojans will build on their lead over the likes of Arizona, ASU, and Utah.


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-champs-day-1-upmiddown-analysis-stanford-to-build-on-lead/


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OBear073akaSMFan;842463247 said:

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No one has posted anything on the prelims yet. Wondering how Cal is doing on their 2nd day. Without counting all of the A's, B's, and C's qualifiers, the Furds seem to do being better than expected with 5 swimmers qualifying in the 200IM A group & 3 in the 500 A group. If you layering in the diving tonight, it wouldn't surprise me if the Furds take the lead tonight. Were people (experts) expecting us to do better in the prelims?

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Bears' strengths are breast, back, and fly. Weak in diving and distance. LSJU is strong in diving, distance, and IMs. 'SC is strong in middle distance, distance, and diving.

Does look like Durden is using more guys in exhibitions to maximize chances. Scratched Hamilton in 200 IM. Still has an issue in the 200 relay since Fabio and Chung are still not in. Janardan and Hinshaw need to step up a bit. Teri was more straight forward with her line up while Durden's moving swimmers around and not showing his hand as much. Really curious to see what line up and how fast the Bears go in the 200 relay.

Looking dicey

Combined Team Scores - Through Event 7

1. Stanford Mens Swimming 288 2. Univ of California, Berkeley 248.5
3. University of Southern Calif 242.5 4. Arizona, University of 174
5. Utah, University of 126 6. Arizona State University 111

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men's Pac-12 Championships: Day 2 Finals Real-Time Recap[/COLOR][/SIZE]


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-championships-day-2-finals-real-time-recap/


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Is Cal handicapped to be down by 40 points to Furd after the first full night of competition? USC is right behind us, too. I didn't study the projection sheets. Sorry! I think that the women's performances "spoiled" me...
GO BEARS!

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men's Pac-12 Championships: Day 2 Team Scoring Analysis[/COLOR][/SIZE]


http://swimswam.com/2015-mens-pac-12-championships-day-2-team-scoring-analysis/


After last night, Stanford was at the top of the point standings in 209, followed by USC in 197 and Arizona in 137. That included diving, the 200 medley relay and the 800 free relay events. Cal wasn't even in the picture at that point, sitting in 5th with a point total of 103.

Flash Forward to tonight's Finals, where, after the 500 free, 200 IM, 50 free and 200 free relay events, Cal boosted itself up to third place, amassing an impressive 165 points on the night.

Team Scores below:

Stanford 385.0
USC 335.0
Cal 268.0
Arizona 220.0
Utah 146.0
Arizona State 145.0

The Bears saw a total of 6 swimmers in tonight's A-Final races with Trent Williams scoring 8th place points in the men's 500 free, Josh Prenot and Ryan Murphy with a 2-3 finish in the 200 IM, and Seth Stubblefield with Fabio Gimondi and Tyler Messerschmidt getting gains in the 50 freestyle. All told, Cal is now knocking on the door of USC and is staging some big swims tomorrow as well.

But, USC and Stanford have giant lineups ready to launch on Friday also, which may put the top 2 team finishes out of reach for the Bears. USC will see Santo Condorelli, Lucca Spinazzola, Ralf Tribuntsov and Dylan Carter as just part of its 100 fly heavy-hitting contingent. That event alone could do some major damage as long as the Trojans swim well enough to set themselves up for point-scoring positions in the evening. Stanford has some key athletes slated to swim the 200 free in Drew Cosgarea and Tom Kremer and the Cardinal will also have on-fire Dave Nolan in the 100 backstroke tomorrow.

The prelims tomorrow are crucial in pushing forth as many swimmers as each team can muster into the finals. There is still time for any one of the top three powerhouses to take control and edge themselves that much closer to the Pac-12 team title.


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There are different ways to peak performance at NCAAs. Teri wants to build confidence via early qualifications and a dress rehearsal at Pac-12s. Durden keeps his boys on edge by saving their biggest swims until NCAAs. Georgia women are somewhere in between. Qualify the maximum number of swimmers at SECs, but don't care if defending NCAA champ Brittany MacLean is seeded in the mid 20s prior to NCAAs.

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[SIZE=5][COLOR="#FF0000"]2015 Men's Pac-12 Championships: Day 2 Team Scoring Analysis[/COLOR][/SIZE]

Flash Forward to tonight's Finals, where, after the 500 free, 200 IM, 50 free and 200 free relay events, Cal boosted itself up to third place, amassing an impressive 165 points on the night.

Team Scores below:

Stanford 385.0
USC 335.0
Cal 268.0
Arizona 220.0
Utah 146.0
Arizona State 145.0
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Kind of confused on the scores. After the 2nd day the live results shows Stanford 288 to Cal's 248.5. Is it because they have included all of the diving events in the above scores which I believe took place last week. Thanks in advance.

Appears that those team scores do include diving. The "live results" must not be including the diving scores.

Looking forward at the seedings it doesn't look like we'll take it, but who knows. I'm always much more concerned with the NCAA meet anyway.

juarezbear;842463711 said:

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I'm always much more concerned with the NCAA meet anyway.

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With you there completely. That's partly why I had such conflicted feelings upon the women's blowout at their Pac-12 meet - over the moon at their really fast times across the board and for the dominating win over a furd threat which never really materialized...but at the same time apprehensive that they'd peaked or would get over-confident against 2 talented rivals who may not have fully shown their hand at this point...additionally I always prefer the underdog role over having a target painted on one's back!

My main concern for the men's at this point is that they all get their cuts for NCAAs. Have lots of faith in Dave & Yuri's strategy & plans, but that doesn't mean we may suffer a bout of anxiety or two when we don't see the whole picture and things sometimes appear to be coming down to the wire!

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[COLOR="#696969"]SwimSwam : NEW PAC-12 MEET RECORD!! Cal's Josh Prenot blasted a 3:40.84 to blow past his own 3:41.82 meet record from 2013. Stanford's Curtis Ogren touched in 3:41.23, also faster than previous meet record. Add'l top 8: Green, Hinshaw, Thomson, Thorne..Williamson, Meyer (3:46.19)

Another Cal swimmer takes the top seed this morning, as Seth Stubblefield charges to front of 100 fly pack in a time of 45.86. Also in 100 fly top 8: Tribunstov (USC), Duskinas (ASU), Liang (Stan), Condorelli (USC), Domagala (USC), Black (Stan), Carter (USC)

Men's top 8 in 200 free: Malone (USC) in 1:34.01, Kremer (Stan), Soedel (Utah), Gutierrez (Cal), Quintero (USC), Stephens (Stan)... Cosgarea (Stan, 1:35.25)

Cal's Katis just clips Arizona's Cordes for the top seed out of 100 breast prelims. 52.00 for Katis, 52.13 for Cordes. Also in top 8 of 100 breast: Andrew Malone (USC), Capitaine (ASU), Stumph (USC), Hoppe (Cal), Klarskov (USC), Lorenz (ASU, 53.39)

PAC-12 MEET RECORD for USC's Ralf Tribuntsov in the men's 100 back. He touched in 44.95 to earn tonight's top seed. Also in top 8 of 100 back: Spinazzola, Murphy, Pebley, Arata, Campbell, Nolan and Conaton (47.62)

Swimswam reader comments: "Cal and Stanford both get 3 in the A final of the 400 IM...with Green definitely and Hinshaw likely punching their tickets. I count 13 for Cal now, with 2 more very likely and another 3-5 with good chances coming up. Roll on you Bears"
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and 3 for us in the B group to the furds 1.

Stanford seems to continual to be surprising good. Perhaps they are putting more emphasize on the Pac-12 meet.