Do they have "swim-ons" in college? Would Calwswim's twitter acct tweet this out? Seems strange.UrsusArctosCalifornicus said:
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John Nichols => Bears?
CS ranking as of verbal: #1000+ Nat, #32 GA (for the Class of 2020!)
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Do they have "swim-ons" in college? Would Calwswim's twitter acct tweet this out? Seems strange.UrsusArctosCalifornicus said:
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John Nichols => Bears?
CS ranking as of verbal: #1000+ Nat, #32 GA (for the Class of 2020!)
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OBear073akaSMFan said:
Do they have "swim-ons" in college? Would Calwswim's twitter acct tweet this out? Seems strange.
UrsusArctosCalifornicus said:
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Sounds massively suspicious, cos:
1) CS ranking as of verbal: #1,000+ Nat, #523 PA
But even more dodgy is this, from his commitment statement:
2) Jonathan Manning: "Stanford is cool"...
But heck, it's a slow day for swim news, with the Men's 2018 NCAAs not scheduled to get underway until Wed eve., so thought I'd just report this for some laughs haha
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tnp101 said:
Is it true for the rumor that Yuki is going to Wisconsin and Dave is going to Auburn for head coaching positions?
THANK GOD, PAY THAT MAN!UrsusArctosCalifornicus said:socaliganbear said:
Any Durden updates?
DAVE DURDEN SIGNS 3-YEAR CONTRACT EXTENSION TO REMAIN AT CAL
Speaking of this class, the SwimSwam 2019 Men's rankings have been dropped.Quote:
Now let's go load up this class.
ASU SECURES VERBAL COMMITMENT FROM #3 IN CLASS OF 2019, JACK DOLANswimmer19 said:
Not yet reported by Swimswam, but Jack Dolan has also committed to ASU:
https://instagr.am/p/BiA17U8H1q9
swimmer19 said:
On a side note, looks like Calvin David missed this list altogether
SWIMMERTX said:
Was Calvin David of California considered from this list? Teammate of #15 Jonah Cooper, and they both swim for PLS (Pleasanton Seahawks) and Foothill. Also a Cal commit.
JARED ANDERSON said:
David was one of the top 5 or so that didn't make our list. Very good 500 free. There's just so much ground to cover to get towards NCAA scoring level in the distance races (4:14/14:46 for 16th this year) that it's hard to rank those guys when there's not immediate relay impact. Certainly a top-3 pure distance free prospect in the class, though
swimmer19 said:
TOP 20 NCAA SWIMMING RECRUITS IN THE BOYS HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2019
HONORABLE MENTIONSKimani Gregory (Race X Aquatics / Penn Hills Senior High / Pittsburgh, PA) one of the class's best 100 frees (43.7), but hasn't yet developed great range around it (1:40.6 in the 200, 20.4 in the 50). Also a good butterflyer (48.0).
My list of an ideal commit list for 2019 (parentheses denote their replacement for major impact players):
Brendan Burns/Shane Blinkman (Seliskar/Thomas, latter (Blinkman ->Thomas) for 2fly)
Calvin David, plus Michael Petride or Will Barao (Norman)
Kimani Gregory (partial Thomas (for 1fly))
Will Pelton/Ethan Harder, backstroke
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On a side note, looks like Calvin David missed this list altogether
swimmer19 said:
TOP 20 NCAA SWIMMING RECRUITS IN THE BOYS HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2019
2. Brendan Burns Upper Mainline YMCA Conestoga High School Berwyn, PA
Best Times: 200 fly 1:42.94, 100 fly 46.61, 200 back 1:42.17, 100 back 46.24, 200 IM 1:47.20, 200 free 1:36.01, 100 free 44.16, 50 free 20.09
My list of an ideal commit list for 2019 (parentheses denote their replacement for major impact players):
Brendan Burns/Shane Blinkman (Seliskar/Thomas, latter (Blinkman ->Thomas) for 2fly)
Calvin David, plus Michael Petride or Will Barao (Norman)
Kimani Gregory (partial Thomas (for 1fly))
Will Pelton/Ethan Harder, backstroke
Your observations are mostly accurate. For 2018 they got Whitley and Chris Jhong, who with some big drops could develop into a contributor, but really is coming in with times on par with current bear and borderline NCAA qualifier Ken Takahashi. They have a verbal from Calvin Davis for 2019, who is a decent distance recruit but far off a guy like Norman or Grieshop, or any of the top distance/middle distance swimmers from the 2018 class.Schroeder71 said:
My novice observations of the last four recruiting classes seem to indicate a material drop off in talent in 2018 & 2019. Am I incorrect? Durden & Co recruited strong classes in 2016 (sophs) & 2017 (freshmen) but appears to only have landed the top recruit nationally in Reece Whitley for 2018 and nobody that I could find for 2019. When is signing deadline for the class of 2019? If this is true-I'm surprised that Dave signed a three-year extenstion at Cal. Please correct me if I'm wrong about 2018 & 2019. If Reece Whitley can score points like another Ryan Murphy, maybe Cal can survive without a solid class. GO BEARS!
That is true, and in general an immediate high scoring impact cannot be expected outside of the top handful of recruits. But the next tier of high schoolers will have times that we can clearly see move into NCAA scoring range with a little improvement. These are the guys you have to bring in to compete with a team like Texas (or NC State, or Florida, or Indiana). You can't wait for four years and hope that maybe a handful of middling recruits will develop into scorers. You need scoring from across the roster (and this year both the Cal and Texas freshman showed that). So while it is impressive that schools like Denver manage to develop these underrecruited guys into NCAA caliber swimmers at a decent rate, to compete with Texas most of Cal's swimmers have to be on that trajectory, and the 2019 class is not particularly rich in those swimmers (the 2018 class absolutely was though).Bearswim said:
I think that it is tough to compare the times or ability of a 21-22 year old at the end of his college swimming career to the times or potential contribution of a 16-17 year old recruit. It would be great if a new recruit could replace a departing swimmer without some dip in contribution - but not easy to do.
swimmer19 said:
TOP 20 NCAA SWIMMING RECRUITS IN THE BOYS HIGH SCHOOL CLASS OF 2019
11. Ethan Harder Billings Aquatic Club Billings Senior High School Billings, MT
Best Times: 200 back 1:43.04, 100 back 47.59, 200 fly 1:46.80, 200 IM 1:47.75, 400 IM 3:51.09
My list of an ideal commit list for 2019 (parentheses denote their replacement for major impact players):
Will Pelton/Ethan Harder, backstroke
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swimmer19 said:
Hey hey, welcome to Cal, Jason!
Great get! Did he visit during Jr day? Anyone know those who visited and have yet to sign?swimmer19 said:
Hey hey, welcome to Cal, Jason!
Jason: I'm exited and proud to announce my verbal commitment to continue my academic and swimming career at the University of California, Berkeley! I cannot thank my family, friends, coaches, and teammates enough for helping me get here. Go Bears!
#13 JASON LOUSER ANNOUNCES HIS VERBAL COMMITMENT TO CAL FOR 2019-20
CS as of commit: (#46 Nat, #1 NY)
Also on SwimSwam's top 20 for 2019, clocking in at #13!
Don't know if he visited during Junior Day, but everyone who has committed so far (Calvin David, Will Pelton, Jason Louser), have yet to sign (official recruiting dates haven't opened yet.)OBear073akaSMFan said:
Great get! Did he visit during Jr day? Anyone know those who visited and have yet to sign?
Looks like acceptance letters are being handed out presently, as various other LSJU athletic institutions have received top commits for their respective sports.bearz012 said:
Looks like LSJU recruiting has opened up...
Will: "Excited to announce my verbal commitment to study and swim at Stanford University! Thank you to my family, coaches, team, and friends for helping me this far. Can't wait to see what the future holds on The Farm! Go Card! #fearthetree"swimmer19 said:
Word on the street is that UVA and 'SC are interested in Petrides, but UVA is nearing zero in terms of scholarships. Barao is another UVA "target," but also has teammate connections to the Tar Heels, also worth mentioning is that Bluefish alum Elizabeth Beisel swam for the Gators. Wouldn't be surprised if Pouch follows teammate Zane Backes (2018 IU) to IU, but currently no known connections amongst Tarvestad and Myhre.
Presently, there are too many wildcards in play to determine where exactly these uncommitted recruits are heading towards, but definitely would all be great gets for the Bears!