Underreported Covid Deaths by 50% in NY

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BearForce2
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-nursing-home-report-reveals-massive-corruption-coverup-scandal



Death counts in nursing homes were underreported by as much as 50% in NY. Massive corruption and coverup scandal at the highest level of New York State Government, implicating the Governor, Secretary of the Governor, the New York State Health Commissioner, and the Governor's staff.

Andrew Cuomo, Bill de Balsio, Chris Cuomo, and Chuck Schumer are silent. All Democrats.



The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
okaydo
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Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.
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okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.

Ok, I should have said they're all Italians.....except Schumer who's an alien.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.
Still way better than 90% of republicans.
This just in: Republicans find another whistleblower who claims Hillary's emails were proven to be on Hunter's laptop while Obama spied on tRump as he sat (shat?) upon his golden toilet. Gym Jordan afraid whistle blower may be in danger of abduction by aliens in cahoots with Democrats.
okaydo
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GoOskie said:

okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.
Still way better than 90% of republicans.

Of course. Just saying he sucks, and that's why one of the stars of Sex and the City put a fright into him when she ran for governor a few years ago.

I listened to a 2 hour interview with him on The Howard Stern Show, and he was great. Really smooth and charismatic. But then you realize how terrible he is (I follow a lot of New Yorkers on Twitter.)
LMK5
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Have to applaud the state AG--a Democrat--for bringing this to the public's attention. The problem is he sold high when he published his self-congratulatory book. Class action for refunds coming?
The truth lies somewhere between CNN and Fox.
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okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.


This is fake news. Democrats love him.

Cuomo: "Shocking" to See Poll Showing Him Leading 2024 Democratic Field

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/cuomo-shocking-to-see-poll-showing-him-leading-2024-democratic-field/2568009/?amp
okaydo
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hanky1 said:

okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.


This is fake news. Democrats love him.

Cuomo: "Shocking" to See Poll Showing Him Leading 2024 Democratic Field

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/cuomo-shocking-to-see-poll-showing-him-leading-2024-democratic-field/2568009/?amp

Yes, he was popular last August.

But there's a reason why Cynthia Nixon put in a scare in his re-election campaign and why he didn't run for president.

Merely taking charge and looking competent during a tragedy goes a long, long way. There was once a kook who was mayor of a big city who looked like the king of the world when tragedy struck his city two decades ago.
BearForce2
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The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
BearForce2
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The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
Econ For Dummies
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BearForce2 said:


He's going to get murdered in the primary when he tries to run for President. Perhaps literally.
okaydo
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okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.


dajo9
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I make a point of trying to avoid New York news. Our national news is largely based out of New York and is obsessed with New York. The coverage of a huge, deadly California wildfire pales in comparison to say, a regular, run of the mill snowstorm in New York. I mean, televising Andrew Cuomo's press conferences live every day? Give me a break.
hanky1
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BearForce2 said:




Democrats leading presidential contender
sycasey
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hanky1 said:

BearForce2 said:




Democrats leading presidential contender

Why do people keep saying that? There's no way he's leading any polls.
dajo9
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sycasey said:

hanky1 said:

BearForce2 said:




Democrats leading presidential contender

Why do people keep saying that? There's no way he's leading any polls.
He's got it wrong. We are going to nominate the Portland chapter head of antifa.
concordtom
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hanky1 said:

okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.


This is fake news. Democrats love him.

Cuomo: "Shocking" to See Poll Showing Him Leading 2024 Democratic Field

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/cuomo-shocking-to-see-poll-showing-him-leading-2024-democratic-field/2568009/?amp
You're a hater who doesn't even know why he hates.
You just hate "the other side" because they are "the other side".
You stand for nothing other than partisanship so far as I can tell.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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sycasey said:

hanky1 said:

BearForce2 said:




Democrats leading presidential contender

Why do people keep saying that? There's no way he's leading any polls.
Shush. Hanky found a second hand report of one poll from a Canadian pollster I've never heard of taken 6 months ago that had Cuomo with 21% of the vote. As the GOP has demonstrated over recent years, opinions never change. Therefore, it must be written in stone that Cuomo is the 2024 Democratic Presidential front runner.
hanky1
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Liberal media has been fawning over him for all of 2020. Who raises the issue w the nursing homes? NY Post! Thanks objective media. Only then has the liberal msm been forced to acknowledge his failure. This is a clown who was being hyped for person of the year by time magazine and other liberal sites. Lol.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

sycasey said:

hanky1 said:

BearForce2 said:




Democrats leading presidential contender

Why do people keep saying that? There's no way he's leading any polls.
Shush. Hanky found a second hand report of one poll from a Canadian pollster I've never heard of taken 6 months ago that had Cuomo with 21% of the vote. As the GOP has demonstrated over recent years, opinions never change. Therefore, it must be written in stone that Cuomo is the 2024 Democratic Presidential front runner.
There isn't any real polling on this question that I can find, but betting markets have set odds for who will be the Democratic nominee in 2024. Kamala Harris is at the top (even ahead of Joe Biden). Cuomo is tied for 9th place.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/politics/women-color-favorites-2024-democratic-nominee-kamala-michelle-obama-abrams-aoc/
sycasey
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sycasey said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

sycasey said:

hanky1 said:

BearForce2 said:




Democrats leading presidential contender

Why do people keep saying that? There's no way he's leading any polls.
Shush. Hanky found a second hand report of one poll from a Canadian pollster I've never heard of taken 6 months ago that had Cuomo with 21% of the vote. As the GOP has demonstrated over recent years, opinions never change. Therefore, it must be written in stone that Cuomo is the 2024 Democratic Presidential front runner.
There isn't any real polling on this question that I can find, but betting markets have set odds for who will be the Democratic nominee in 2024. Kamala Harris is at the top (even ahead of Joe Biden). Cuomo is tied for 9th place.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/politics/women-color-favorites-2024-democratic-nominee-kamala-michelle-obama-abrams-aoc/
Actually I should amend that, since the article in question is two months old and the site has updated the odds since then.

https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/politics/democratic-party-presidential-nominee-odds/

Cuomo is now in 8th place. Getting there!
bearister
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You RWNJs think that when you flip your theories 180 degrees that no one notices.

As US coronavirus death toll mounts, so does the belief by some that it is exaggerated | Fox News


https://www.foxnews.com/us/as-u-s-coronavirus-death-toll-mounts-so-does-the-belief-it-is-exaggerated
Econ For Dummies
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hanky1 said:

Liberal media has been fawning over him for all of 2020. Who raises the issue w the nursing homes? NY Post! Thanks objective media. Only then has the liberal msm been forced to acknowledge his failure. This is a clown who was being hyped for person of the year by time magazine and other liberal sites. Lol.
Truth
hanky1
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You know it's funny. The media last year was swooning over how Cuomo handled the pandemic and attacking the Florida governor's handling of it. Hm - I wonder why? Could it be because one was a Democrat and the other a Republican? In other words...the media was playing politics with the pandemic to shape their political narrative.

Guess what? Cuomo's handling of the pandemic has now been proven to be a complete disaster (he should be charged with manslaughter) thanks to a traditionally conservative newspaper (NY Post) and Florida is actually light years ahead of NY.

Lol
Anarchistbear
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Cuomo reveived an Emmy for his briefings. He should have won best actor
sycasey
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No one here can do much about media coverage, but it seems to me that even the left-leaning folks on this board were pretty critical of Cuomo for being slow to respond in the early days of the COVID crisis. This new report just seems to confirm those criticisms.
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Cuomo's career should be over, and the media should revisit their journalistic integrity and bias in fawning over a man over his handling of COVID-19 and transparency when he is clearly one of the bad ones.

I wrote early on here that friends from the Hamptons were telling me that Chris Cuomo was out and about when he presented to the world how he was secluding himself in his basement. And his stupid back and forth with this brother Andrew was shameful.

Never want to hear from either one of them on how we should behave. Tired of people behaving badly when the cameras are off and then lecturing to us on how to behave. Groups like tech companies, Hollywood, and venture capital firms and people like Newsom and Cuomo. Not saying conservatives are any better. Often times they are worse. And I am not even writing about Televangelists who are often out for the money and not for the religion or righteousness. But there is something to be said about politicians letting the world know they are scoundrels and proving themselves right over someone who would tell us how to behave while they themselves are behaving the opposite way.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/cuomo-ron-kim-nursing-home/index.html
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calbear93 said:

Cuomo's career should be over, and the media should revisit their journalistic integrity and bias in fawning over a man over his handling of COVID-19 and transparency when he is clearly one of the bad ones.

I wrote early on here that friends from the Hamptons were telling me that Chris Cuomo was out and about when he presented to the world how he was secluding himself in his basement. And his stupid back and forth with this brother Andrew was shameful.

Never want to hear from either one of them on how we should behave. Tired of people behaving badly when the cameras are off and then lecturing to us on how to behave. Groups like tech companies, Hollywood, and venture capital firms and people like Newsom and Cuomo. Not saying conservatives are any better. Often times they are worse. And I am not even writing about Televangelists who are often out for the money and not for the religion or righteousness. But there is something to be said about politicians letting the world know they are scoundrels and proving themselves right over someone who would tell us how to behave while they themselves are behaving the opposite way.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/17/politics/cuomo-ron-kim-nursing-home/index.html
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"Gov. Cuomo called me directly on Thursday to threaten my career if I did not cover up for Melissa [DeRosa] and what she said. He tried to pressure me to issue a statement, and it was a very traumatizing experience," Kim said. Cuomo proceeded to tell the assemblyman that "we're in this business together and we don't cross certain lines and he said I hadn't seen his wrath and that he can destroy me," according to Kim.

Cuomo's adviser denied that the governor threatened to destroy Kim.

DeRosa is a top aide to the governor who came under fire last week after she told state lawmakers in a private virtual meeting that the state had delayed sharing with the legislature the full scope of the Covid-related death toll of New York's nursing home residents because of concerns about a potential federal investigation by the Department of Justice. (The governor's office has since released a partial transcript of the call.)

Kim, a progressive representing Queens who has been among the most vocal critics of Cuomo's handling of nursing homes during the pandemic and believes his own uncle died from a presumed case of Covid in a nursing home last year, participated in that virtual call. During the meeting, Kim said he called on the governor to apologize to family members of those who died in assisted living facilities. When the New York Post first reported on DeRosa's controversial comments, he was one of the participants quoted in the piece criticizing those remarks.

I can't wait for the next Chris Cuomo interview with the governor.
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Really what is needed is honesty on death certificates.
For a variety of reasons, mostly monetary or insurance reasons,
Death Certificates don't necessarily reflect the cause of death, and nobody checks.
Somehow I don't think nursing homes anywhere were accurately reporting Covid-19
deaths.

For example, My father and wife died in extended care facilities.
My father had terminal melanoma, cause of death instead was recorded as cardio vascular failure.
My wife died from radiation Pneumonitis which had caused her lungs to stop extracting oxygen, but cause of death was stage one lung cancer instead of the radiation treatment for lung cancer.

I am sure that Covid deaths and infections have been under-reported, from the patient to the White House.
Better to fix the system than look for scapegoats.
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okaydo said:

hanky1 said:

okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.


This is fake news. Democrats love him.

Cuomo: "Shocking" to See Poll Showing Him Leading 2024 Democratic Field

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/cuomo-shocking-to-see-poll-showing-him-leading-2024-democratic-field/2568009/?amp

Yes, he was popular last August.

But there's a reason why Cynthia Nixon put in a scare in his re-election campaign and why he didn't run for president.

Merely taking charge and looking competent during a tragedy goes a long, long way. There was once a kook who was mayor of a big city who looked like the king of the world when tragedy struck his city two decades ago.
and by "put in a scare in his re-election campaign" okaydo doesn't include key facts, just like the media he loves. nothing unusual there. cuomo crushed nixon 65% to 35%. remember that the next time you read anything from okaydo.

(this is the point in the program where okaydo will cite some new yorker article or tmz story with opinions, not facts.)
okaydo
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oskioski said:

okaydo said:

hanky1 said:

okaydo said:

Pssssst: Liberals generally hate Andre Cuomo. There's a reason why he didn't run for president. Because he's pretty terrible.


This is fake news. Democrats love him.

Cuomo: "Shocking" to See Poll Showing Him Leading 2024 Democratic Field

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics/cuomo-shocking-to-see-poll-showing-him-leading-2024-democratic-field/2568009/?amp

Yes, he was popular last August.

But there's a reason why Cynthia Nixon put in a scare in his re-election campaign and why he didn't run for president.

Merely taking charge and looking competent during a tragedy goes a long, long way. There was once a kook who was mayor of a big city who looked like the king of the world when tragedy struck his city two decades ago.
and by "put in a scare in his re-election campaign" okaydo doesn't include key facts, just like the media he loves. nothing unusual there. cuomo crushed nixon 65% to 35%. remember that the next time you read anything from okaydo.

(this is the point in the program where okaydo will cite some new yorker article or tmz story with opinions, not facts.)

Yeah, I said she put a "scare" in him, which is exactly what she did.

Maybe you should follow New York politics to know what you're talking about.

Of course, he trounced her -- just like Biden easily crushed Bernie. But would you argue that Bernie didn't put in a scare on the Biden campaign?

Usually, an incumbent who wins 65% of the vote means that he really shouldn't have to do anything to win re-nomination. But he had to take her seriously. She put him on the defensive. She was in his head. He had to work hard to win re-nomination, which resulted in stumbles and controversies. He became more left-leaning.

He had a fiery debate with Nixon, where he was boxed into saying "I will serve four years as governor of the state of New York" if he wins re-election. If he had known he'd easily beat her, he could've allowed himself some wiggle room. If he had run for president in 2020, he would've had to announce in early 2019, which means spending much of 2018 planning a presidential run -- instead, he spent most of 2018 fending off Miranda from Sex and the City.

So yes, she put a scare in him. This wasn't an easy cruise to winning the Democratic primary.





















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Every slander media flung at Florida's DeSantis was true of Cuomo

https://nypost.com/2021/02/22/every-slander-media-flung-at-floridas-desantis-was-true-of-cuomo/

The media is reluctantly following Cuomo's failures when it was enjoying bashing Florida's Governor DeSantis simply because he was a Republican. You all know how this works but you all accept it as normal.

The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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BearForce2 said:

Every slander media flung at Florida's DeSantis was true of Cuomo

https://nypost.com/2021/02/22/every-slander-media-flung-at-floridas-desantis-was-true-of-cuomo/

The media is reluctantly following Cuomo's failures when it was enjoying bashing Florida's Governor DeSantis simply because he was a Republican. You all know how this works but you all except it as normal.



I haven't stopped foot in the state of New York (or on the East Coast) for that matter since the 1980s when I was a kid, yet I know how horrible Cuomo has been for years.

Why? Because a lot of liberal reporters have covered all of his problems. That's why in the thread I mentioned above, Cuomo had a tough time fending off Cynthia Nixon. Because he received a lot of negative media coverage.

The print media has been on his a** for years. But the TV media is a different story, and that's why he received so much positive press last year. Because he was a contrast to Trump.

As for DeSantis, even you have to admit he's behaved like an a**. If he wasn't so blatant an a-hole, he wouldn't receive so much negative coverage.


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BearForce2 said:

Every slander media flung at Florida's DeSantis was true of Cuomo

https://nypost.com/2021/02/22/every-slander-media-flung-at-floridas-desantis-was-true-of-cuomo/

The media is reluctantly following Cuomo's failures when it was enjoying bashing Florida's Governor DeSantis simply because he was a Republican. You all know how this works but you all except it as normal.
Truth. And it's "accept."
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Believe all women.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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