Kids are in cages and no one cares

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DHS Secretary tells migrants don't come now. Does he expect migrants to be watching the press conference and acknowledging this?
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Why is Dr. Jill Biden cutting off POTUS to discuss policy?
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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BlueAnon said:

BearForce2 said:



Neither the red team nor blue team cares about the working class. Why do people root for either of those teams?
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BearForce2 said:


So what's the solution? And no, the answer is not "Build a very expensive wall that won't keep them out."
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SFBear92 said:

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So what's the solution? And no, the answer is not "Build a very expensive wall that won't keep them out."
Before answering that question, we have to first answer this: Is this a problem?
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Actually yes a wall does work, but its not the ONLY thing you need. You think its an accident they stopped coming when Trump was here? He made deals with Mexico and most of Central America, take your people back or we stop funding your country. Guess what...it worked. It's all about will, democrats have no will to stop it because its future voters, republicans have no interest because its cheap labor.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Actually yes a wall does work, but its not the ONLY thing you need. You think its an accident they stopped coming when Trump was here? He made deals with Mexico and most of Central America, take your people back or we stop funding your country. Guess what...it worked. It's all about will, democrats have no will to stop it because its future voters, republicans have no interest because its cheap labor.


Where are you getting info that they stopped coming under Trump? Chart in this article suggests 2019 was the highest year for border crossings in over a decade.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-deportations-unfinished-mission
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dajo9 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Actually yes a wall does work, but its not the ONLY thing you need. You think its an accident they stopped coming when Trump was here? He made deals with Mexico and most of Central America, take your people back or we stop funding your country. Guess what...it worked. It's all about will, democrats have no will to stop it because its future voters, republicans have no interest because its cheap labor.


Where are you getting info that they stopped coming under Trump? Chart in this article suggests 2019 was the highest year for border crossings in over a decade.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-deportations-unfinished-mission

But conservative media wasn't reporting on that, so it didn't happen.
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BearForce2 said:

SFBear92 said:

BearForce2 said:


So what's the solution? And no, the answer is not "Build a very expensive wall that won't keep them out."
Before answering that question, we have to first answer this: Is this a problem?
I think the questions of "Families crossing the border" vs "Unaccompanied minors crossing the border" have potentially different answers.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Actually yes a wall does work, but its not the ONLY thing you need. You think its an accident they stopped coming when Trump was here?
Except they didn't stop coming
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sycasey said:

dajo9 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Actually yes a wall does work, but its not the ONLY thing you need. You think its an accident they stopped coming when Trump was here? He made deals with Mexico and most of Central America, take your people back or we stop funding your country. Guess what...it worked. It's all about will, democrats have no will to stop it because its future voters, republicans have no interest because its cheap labor.


Where are you getting info that they stopped coming under Trump? Chart in this article suggests 2019 was the highest year for border crossings in over a decade.
https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/trump-deportations-unfinished-mission

But conservative media wasn't reporting on that, so it didn't happen.


Yes, what happened here that is confusing our conservative friend is that right wing media stopped reporting it as a problem
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Biden confronts mounting humanitarian crisis at the border - Axios


https://www.axios.com/biden-immigration-humanitarian-crisis-border-1948f056-15a1-4a63-bf4d-1f3f7e846b69.html
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bearister said:

Biden confronts mounting humanitarian crisis at the border - Axios


https://www.axios.com/biden-immigration-humanitarian-crisis-border-1948f056-15a1-4a63-bf4d-1f3f7e846b69.html
Thanks for posting a balanced article about the situation at the border. I believe in strong borders and high deportations focused on criminals (essentially the Obama and Biden approach). I have four main problems with the Trump approach:

1. Separating families at the border. This is one of the foulest things this country has ever done.
2. Putting kids in cages for longer than short-term temporary housing during surges at the border.
2. Immigration policing within our communities. I don't want "la migra" running wild disrupting our communities.
3. The Wall. It's a scar on our country and ineffective.
4. Questionable policies based on countries. Whether they are racist, religious, corrupt, or just give the appearance of (i.e. Trump banning immigration from Middle Eastern countries, but not the Middle Eastern countries he is friends with).

When there are border surges, things are going to get messy. We have to always strive to be humanitarian. When we fail, the media needs to report that, and our leaders need to correct that. Policies meant to be harsh as a deterrent are a non-starter for me.
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BearForce2 said:



We already saw how the Republicans would handle it. No thanks.
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I guess today is Glenn Grennwald day.
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Nothing to see here....
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Biden to the rescue.


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FEMA? I thought there was no crisis at the border? Biden in his effort to try not be like Trump is effing things up.
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Hannity?
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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Wapo. Must be a slow news cycle.
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Build the wall.
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Repair the existing wall.

Nuance and words are hard when you are a knob slobbering shill for the GQP.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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BearForce2 said:



Build the wall.



He's finishing Trump's Wall!!! Congratulations to the Biden administration!
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Only in the RWNJ knob slobbering world of Trump's GQP is fixing holes in an existing wall the same as building a wall from the Pacific coast to the Gulf coast along the Southern border that Mexico will pay for.

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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Kamala Harris is the border crisis manager.
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