Cal88 said:

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^Garbage in, garbage out, that is often how AI works.

ChatGPT on the mRNA vaccines:

expected death rate from mRNA vaccine

ChatGPT said:
The expected death rate from mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) is extremely low:

Expected Death Rate (mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines)

• Estimated rate:
  ~0.2 to 2 deaths per million doses administered

Details

• Most reported deaths after vaccination are not caused by the vaccine. Post-vaccine deaths often occur in frail, elderly, or seriously ill individuals, where background mortality is high.
• Extensive safety monitoring by systems like:
  
  • VAERS (U.S.)
  • Yellow Card Scheme (U.K.)
  • EudraVigilance (EU)
    confirms that causal deaths directly linked to mRNA vaccines are exceptionally rare.

Known Rare Risks

• Myocarditis/pericarditis (mostly in young males, after 2nd dose):
  
  • Risk: ~1240 cases per million doses
  • Deaths: Extremely rare, typically recoverable
• Anaphylaxis:
• ~25 per million doses
• Deaths: Avoidable with immediate treatment

Studies have found the myocarditis rates for mRNA vaccines to be as high as 1 in 35 among young people. Contrast with the ChatGPT number above of the order of 1 in 500,000

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Haloski said:

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Cal88 said:

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^Garbage in, garbage out, that is often how AI works.

ChatGPT on the mRNA vaccines:

expected death rate from mRNA vaccine

ChatGPT said:
The expected death rate from mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) is extremely low:

Expected Death Rate (mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines)

• Estimated rate:
  ~0.2 to 2 deaths per million doses administered

Details

• Most reported deaths after vaccination are not caused by the vaccine. Post-vaccine deaths often occur in frail, elderly, or seriously ill individuals, where background mortality is high.
• Extensive safety monitoring by systems like:
  
  • VAERS (U.S.)
  • Yellow Card Scheme (U.K.)
  • EudraVigilance (EU)
    confirms that causal deaths directly linked to mRNA vaccines are exceptionally rare.

Known Rare Risks

• Myocarditis/pericarditis (mostly in young males, after 2nd dose):
  
  • Risk: ~1240 cases per million doses
  • Deaths: Extremely rare, typically recoverable
• Anaphylaxis:
• ~25 per million doses
• Deaths: Avoidable with immediate treatment

Studies have found the myocarditis rates for mRNA vaccines to be as high as 1 in 35 among young people. Contrast with the ChatGPT number above of the order of 1 in 500,000

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No, you don't get to play that card. Rejected.

Don't conflate the COVID vaccine issues with that BS chart. Go ahead and bring them up, but not as a defense of a laughably flawed numerical analysis.

Furthermore, my post pre-AI post absolutely shows how faulty it is. 1/trillion? Get out of here with that garbage.

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Cal88 said:

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Haloski said:

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Cal88 said:

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^Garbage in, garbage out, that is often how AI works.

ChatGPT on the mRNA vaccines:

expected death rate from mRNA vaccine

ChatGPT said:
The expected death rate from mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) is extremely low:

Expected Death Rate (mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines)

• Estimated rate:
  ~0.2 to 2 deaths per million doses administered

Details

• Most reported deaths after vaccination are not caused by the vaccine. Post-vaccine deaths often occur in frail, elderly, or seriously ill individuals, where background mortality is high.
• Extensive safety monitoring by systems like:
  
  • VAERS (U.S.)
  • Yellow Card Scheme (U.K.)
  • EudraVigilance (EU)
    confirms that causal deaths directly linked to mRNA vaccines are exceptionally rare.

Known Rare Risks

• Myocarditis/pericarditis (mostly in young males, after 2nd dose):
  
  • Risk: ~1240 cases per million doses
  • Deaths: Extremely rare, typically recoverable
• Anaphylaxis:
• ~25 per million doses
• Deaths: Avoidable with immediate treatment

Studies have found the myocarditis rates for mRNA vaccines to be as high as 1 in 35 among young people. Contrast with the ChatGPT number above of the order of 1 in 500,000

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No, you don't get to play that card. Rejected.

Don't conflate the COVID vaccine issues with that BS chart. Go ahead and bring them up, but not as a defense of a laughably flawed numerical analysis.

Furthermore, my post pre-AI post absolutely shows how faulty it is. 1/trillion? Get out of here with that garbage.

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The arguments returned by ChatGPT are surprisingly mundane, most likely extracted from a partisan vulgarization site.

1/trillion is essentially a statistical representation of zero.

What was your major at Cal, rhetoric?

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Cal88 said:

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Haloski said:

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Cal88 said:

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^Garbage in, garbage out, that is often how AI works.

ChatGPT on the mRNA vaccines:

expected death rate from mRNA vaccine

ChatGPT said:
The expected death rate from mRNA COVID-19 vaccines (such as Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna) is extremely low:

Expected Death Rate (mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines)

• Estimated rate:
  ~0.2 to 2 deaths per million doses administered

Details

• Most reported deaths after vaccination are not caused by the vaccine. Post-vaccine deaths often occur in frail, elderly, or seriously ill individuals, where background mortality is high.
• Extensive safety monitoring by systems like:
  
  • VAERS (U.S.)
  • Yellow Card Scheme (U.K.)
  • EudraVigilance (EU)
    confirms that causal deaths directly linked to mRNA vaccines are exceptionally rare.

Known Rare Risks

• Myocarditis/pericarditis (mostly in young males, after 2nd dose):
  
  • Risk: ~1240 cases per million doses
  • Deaths: Extremely rare, typically recoverable
• Anaphylaxis:
• ~25 per million doses
• Deaths: Avoidable with immediate treatment

Studies have found the myocarditis rates for mRNA vaccines to be as high as 1 in 35 among young people. Contrast with the ChatGPT number above of the order of 1 in 500,000

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No, you don't get to play that card. Rejected.

Don't conflate the COVID vaccine issues with that BS chart. Go ahead and bring them up, but not as a defense of a laughably flawed numerical analysis.

Furthermore, my post pre-AI post absolutely shows how faulty it is. 1/trillion? Get out of here with that garbage.

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The arguments returned by ChatGPT are surprisingly mundane, most likely extracted from a partisan vulgarization site.

1/trillion is essentially a statistical representation of zero.

What was your major at Cal, rhetoric?

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Cal88 said:

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Haloski said:

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There are major questions and concerns about COVID and the vaccines. This is all valid to question, but hardly settled.

That chart, on the other hand, is absolute idiocy.

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That chart is, at the very least, a good starting point about the fact that vaccines need to be evaluated in terms of the risks and benefits they represent, an essential point that was completely ignored in the formulation of covid mandates, for example for colleges, where the potential damage to students from the mRNA vaccines heavily outweigh potential benefits.

And n the subject of Polio, vaccination campaigns in countries like India have been abject failures from that perspective as well.

Over 490,000 children in India experienced paralysis as a result of the oral polio vaccine administered between 2000 and 2017. The vaccine was pushed by Bill Gates and his cohorts. pic.twitter.com/y42eN5xoR2

— Victor Scott (@VictorFromDE) August 28, 2024

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