Voter fraud

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" Early in the 2016 presidential campaign, she [Mollie Hemingway] described then-candidate Donald Trump as "a demagogue with no real solutions for anything at all." However, since then, she has been staunchly pro-Trump.." Wikipedia

When your original position is based on objective truth, and then you pull an unsupportable 180 in your position, you are either being blackmailed, or you are trying to preserve your Fox News paycheck.
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I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
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BearForce2 said:

I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
In 2016, Trump wasn't an unknown anything. I have yet to see you acknowledge that Biden got 15.5 million more votes than any previous presidential candidate.
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Here's the bottomline.

The fans of most red-blooded (pun intended) sports teams, would happily accept a championship even if they knew their team cheated. In the aftermath they would either deny the cheating, justify the cheating, accuse the other teams of cheating too, and/or label any criticism of the cheating as sour grapes.

Then there are other fans of sport who see this win-at-all-costs attitude (If you ain't cheating you ain't trying) as deeply offensive and antithetical to sport itself. This group enjoys sport as the spectacle of human potential and a vehicle for camaraderie, drama, and personal growth. For them the purity and fairness of the sport cannot be compromised or else the ideals and purpose of the sport is destroyed. The ethics of the sport are inseparable from the sport itself and their fandom.

Ironically, the first group is also the group that belittles participation trophies. You know, "meaningless" trophies like those that would be given to a "winner" of a contest who had an unfair advantage or who intentionally cheated. These are also the same people who espouse exceptionalism, rugged individualism, and Christian values. None of which are consistent with rooting for and defending cheating.

Trump's GOP is the political equivalent. There no longer is a guiding principle or values or morals, just celebrating and defending any means that leads to the tribe retaining power (which they call winning).

It's sad that some Cal sports fans have adopted that first version of sportsmanship and winning. It's sadder still that in matter more important like life and liberty and the future of the country, members of the Cal community glibly make the same compromises and support a corrupt party and band of narcissistic self-serving politicians by denying cheating, justifying cheating, accusing others of cheating too, and labeling any criticism of the cheating as sour grapes.

Watch as those individuals identify themselves by doing just as I described above in their responses below and take no personal responsibility nor attempt to dialogue with any honesty or integrity
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearForce2 said:

I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
In 2016, Trump wasn't an unknown anything. I have yet to see you acknowledge that Biden got 15.5 million more votes than any previous presidential candidate.

No one is denying the final vote count number, what we don't know is how many were illegitimate. In the meantime, please note that Biden was unpopular before the general election based on the primaries and campaign rally attendance and after the election based on approval numbers. And yet, Biden somehow managed to receive 11 million more votes than Obama the first time around, a record! We all clearly remember the energy and hoopla surrounding Obama's first campaign. Also, no one has ever defeated an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around....except Biden.
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BearForce2 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearForce2 said:

I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
In 2016, Trump wasn't an unknown anything. I have yet to see you acknowledge that Biden got 15.5 million more votes than any previous presidential candidate.

No one is denying the final vote count number, what we don't know is how many were illegitimate. In the meantime, please note that Biden was unpopular before the general election based on the primaries and campaign rally attendance and after the election based on approval numbers. And yet, Biden somehow managed to receive 11 million more votes than Obama the first time around, a record! We all clearly remember the energy and hoopla surrounding Obama's first campaign. Also, no one has ever defeated an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around....except Biden.
We don't know how many Trump votes were illegitimate but we at least have proof that there were some. It's been 13+ months and we still have no proof of illegitimate Biden votes. GOP accusations have been soundly rejected at every turn.

There's a first time for everything including defeating an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around. As I recall, the Constitution and US law says nothing about an incumbent president winning reelection when they received more votes the second time around.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearForce2 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearForce2 said:

I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
In 2016, Trump wasn't an unknown anything. I have yet to see you acknowledge that Biden got 15.5 million more votes than any previous presidential candidate.

No one is denying the final vote count number, what we don't know is how many were illegitimate. In the meantime, please note that Biden was unpopular before the general election based on the primaries and campaign rally attendance and after the election based on approval numbers. And yet, Biden somehow managed to receive 11 million more votes than Obama the first time around, a record! We all clearly remember the energy and hoopla surrounding Obama's first campaign. Also, no one has ever defeated an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around....except Biden.
We don't know how many Trump votes were illegitimate but we at least have proof that there were some. It's been 13+ months and we still have no proof of illegitimate Biden votes. GOP accusations have been soundly rejected at every turn.

There's a first time for everything including defeating an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around. As I recall, the Constitution and US law says nothing about an incumbent president winning reelection when they received more votes the second time around.



From Day 1, the media reported there was no evidence of voter fraud because there was no voter fraud so what is there to investigate?
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BearForce2 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearForce2 said:

I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
In 2016, Trump wasn't an unknown anything. I have yet to see you acknowledge that Biden got 15.5 million more votes than any previous presidential candidate.

No one is denying the final vote count number, what we don't know is how many were illegitimate. In the meantime, please note that Biden was unpopular before the general election based on the primaries and campaign rally attendance and after the election based on approval numbers. And yet, Biden somehow managed to receive 11 million more votes than Obama the first time around, a record! We all clearly remember the energy and hoopla surrounding Obama's first campaign. Also, no one has ever defeated an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around....except Biden.

The answer is obvious: Trump motivated more people to turn out and vote against him than to vote for him. It was never about Biden. It was about getting rid of Trump.
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sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

BearForce2 said:

I don't know if she's a Trump supporter but he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around.
In 2016, Trump wasn't an unknown anything. I have yet to see you acknowledge that Biden got 15.5 million more votes than any previous presidential candidate.

No one is denying the final vote count number, what we don't know is how many were illegitimate. In the meantime, please note that Biden was unpopular before the general election based on the primaries and campaign rally attendance and after the election based on approval numbers. And yet, Biden somehow managed to receive 11 million more votes than Obama the first time around, a record! We all clearly remember the energy and hoopla surrounding Obama's first campaign. Also, no one has ever defeated an incumbent president when they received more votes the second time around....except Biden.

The answer is obvious: Trump motivated more people to turn out and vote against him than to vote for him. It was never about Biden. It was about getting rid of Trump.


They always want to talk about TDS right up until it yields results they don't like.
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sycasey said:



The answer is obvious: Trump motivated more people to turn out and vote against him than to vote for him. It was never about Biden. It was about getting rid of Trump.


I understand the Trump haters were motivated to get rid of him, sometimes all at once after midnight behind closed doors.
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BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:



The answer is obvious: Trump motivated more people to turn out and vote against him than to vote for him. It was never about Biden. It was about getting rid of Trump.


I understand the Trump haters were motivated to get rid of him, sometimes all at once after midnight behind closed doors.

You mean the time when they were allowed to start counting mail-in ballots, because the Republican legislature in that state refused to let them start early? That time?

The same mail-in ballots that Trump encouraged his own supporters not to use? Those ballots?
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sycasey said:



You mean the time when they were allowed to start counting mail-in ballots, because the Republican legislature in that state refused to let them start early? That time?

The same mail-in ballots that Trump encouraged his own supporters not to use? Those ballots?
It was a confluence of factors. First, the pandemic caused a lot of places to change their approach to make early voting and mail-in voting more accessible. We saw something like 2x as many mail-in ballots as 2016 with a lot more early voting as well. Because of Trump and tribalism, Republicans disproportionately chose to vote on election day in person. I'm not sure what the fascination is with election day in-person voting but I don't understand a lot of things that people like to do. Some people like to wait in line for pastries.

Obviously Trump didn't allow the pandemic to run roughshod over our country to set this up, but he and his advisors did understand the dynamic that would condition Trump supporters to disproportionately vote in person which allowed him and his band of misfit toys to relentless attack early voting and mail-in ballots. None of the attacks were warranted, but his purpose was to sow mistrust and try to create some sort of edge to challenge the election if it were close (it wasn't) or outright pretend that he won (which is the path ultimately chosen). Of course there is some irony in that COVID finally removed some of the barriers that had historically kept people from voting which lead to massive turnout. Never ones to let democracy thrive, the Republicans of course took this opportunity to pass new voting laws in dozens of states to make sure that never happens again. The last thing they want is a well-functioning democracy with an engaged electorate and sadly their approach is probably going to succeed, along with massive gerrymandering to provide a structural advantage for the midterms.
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"….he was a political unknown then and received 11 million more votes the second time around."


Dick Martin "That's what they'd like you to believe."
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BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:



The answer is obvious: Trump motivated more people to turn out and vote against him than to vote for him. It was never about Biden. It was about getting rid of Trump.


I understand the Trump haters were motivated to get rid of him, sometimes all at once after midnight behind closed doors.


People spontaneously began dancing and celebrating in the streets after the winner was announced. I am unfamiliar with any similar happening in American history.
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10 more instances of Republican voter fraud found. This version should absolutely be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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More fraudulent votes this time in Michigan and Arizona. This needs to be prosecuted.
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dajo9 said:

More fraudulent votes this time in Michigan and Arizona. This needs to be prosecuted.

Hmm… The Arizona document starts with a reference to Sovereign Citizens. If you look up Sovereign Citizens on YouTube, you get a lot of videos of loons that claim they are Sovereign Citizens and not subject to US, state or local laws. They usually get an eyeful of reality from the police and the judicial system.
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Make voting easy and cheating hard.
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Either Mark Meadows Lived in a Mobile Home on a Mountain or Lied on His Voter Form:
https://news.yahoo.com/either-mark-meadows-lived-mobile-183934784.html
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chazzed said:

Either Mark Meadows Lived in a Mobile Home on a Mountain or Lied on His Voter Form:
https://news.yahoo.com/either-mark-meadows-lived-mobile-183934784.html
As they say in the GOP, "If you ain't lyin', you ain't tryin'!"
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sycasey said:

BearForce2 said:

sycasey said:



The answer is obvious: Trump motivated more people to turn out and vote against him than to vote for him. It was never about Biden. It was about getting rid of Trump.


I understand the Trump haters were motivated to get rid of him, sometimes all at once after midnight behind closed doors.

You mean the time when they were allowed to start counting mail-in ballots, because the Republican legislature in that state refused to let them start early? That time?

The same mail-in ballots that Trump encouraged his own supporters not to use? Those ballots?
Major own-goal. Discourage voting in the 70+ [average Fox viewer] demographic. Whattadumbass.
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BearForce2 said:

hxxps://twitter.com/WrenWilliamsVA/status/1491845579630166026

Make voting easy and cheating hard.
Voter ID laws are voter suppression, pure & simple.

You need a photo ID or birth certificate to register.

Voting, in non-photo-ID states, requires biometric authentication -- a signature. Not easy to fake.

Also, when voting precincts are numerous and small, poll workers get to know people over the years.

It's worked perfectly for decades, with extremely low levels of voter fraud. Like single digits in millions of votes!

The premise of Photo IDs was to prevent "Voter Fraud" -- a problem that didn't exist.
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I was looking for this thread but got impatient and started a thread with the article below, but it belongs here:

Mark Meadows faces electoral fraud question over voter registration address


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/mark-meadows-voter-registration-electoral-fraud-questions-trump?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Back to Wisconsin & BF2's accusations of Democratic foul play with the voter registration database...

This article describes a tactic, used exclusively by the GOP, as "voter caging."
  • send out a nondescript postcard that looks like junk mail -- but if you read the fine print, it's required in order to keep your voter registration;
  • these postcards are sent to registered Democrats, minorities, and "probable" Democratic-leaning voters -- NOT registered Republicans;
  • when these postcards don't come back (and they usually don't), election officials cancel the voter registrations in question.

Voter Caging is a time-tested tradition in areas where Republicans control county & state election boards.

Paul Weyrich, co-founder of the Heritage Foundation, the "Moral Majority," and the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC), laid the groundwork for the GOP's anti-democracy tactics.

[url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GBAsFwPglw]Paul Weyrich - "Goo-Goo ["Good Government"] Syndrome"[/url]
"I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down."

Voter registration purging is also a difference-maker in U.S. elections, like in 2000, when Florida SoS Katherine Harris hired GOP-tied ChoicePoint to flag 173,000 black voters, who were deemed "probable felons," for Harris to purge.
Florida's flawed "voter-cleansing" program

BF2, I really do appreciate your recent interest in election integrity, but you're a little late to the game.

Still, the adage of "No wrong is ever corrected until it happens to a Republican" may prove to be true.

For the record
  • I support 100% public administration & oversight of elections, with full transparency;
  • I support 100% voter-verifiable, hand-marked paper ballots for all able voters;
  • I support the hand-counting of paper ballots at the precinct by election volunteers, with observation open to the public, either in person or via webcam, with posting the results on the precinct door when results are verified;
  • I support computerized voting machines ONLY for voters who are unable to fill out a hand-marked paper ballot;
  • Any computerized voting machine should have ONLY open-source, publicly-verified code;
  • Any computerized voting machine should be completely offline, with NO internet connection;
  • I support mail-in voting, facilitated by the USPS.



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cbbass1 said:

Back to Wisconsin & BF2's accusations of Democratic foul play with the voter registration database...

This article describes a tactic, used exclusively by the GOP, as "voter caging."
  • send out a nondescript postcard that looks like junk mail -- but if you read the fine print, it's required in order to keep your voter registration;
  • these postcards are sent to registered Democrats, minorities, and "probable" Democratic-leaning voters -- NOT registered Republicans;
  • when these postcards don't come back (and they usually don't), election officials cancel the voter registrations in question.

Voter Caging is a time-tested tradition in areas where Republicans control county & state election boards.

Absolutely despicable but no surprise. Republicans aren't interested in a level playing field or making voting democratic. As I posted recently in another thread ...

Unit2Sucks said:

This is what Republicans are working toward.



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Blow to Republicans as supreme court denies bid to overturn electoral maps


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/mar/07/us-supreme-court-republicans-north-carolina-pennsylvania?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other


*At least tRump can count on Gorsuch to serve his master. Thomas is so corrupt that if it wasn't sad it would be laughable.
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BearForce2 said:

hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1500936918422495234
hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1500950846405808130
hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1501025827823263746

Amazing that it only took a year and five months for the crack team of experts in the GOP-controlled Secretary of State's office to figure this out -- AFTER they certified the election results!

What does it mean to certify election results? Anything? Bueller???
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cbbass1 said:

BearForce2 said:

hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1500936918422495234
hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1500950846405808130
hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1501025827823263746

Amazing that it only took a year and five months for the crack team of experts in the GOP-controlled Secretary of State's office to figure this out -- AFTER they certified the election results!

What does it mean to certify election results? Anything? Bueller???

So you acknowledge it, congrats, you are part of the 33% of Democrats polled that said it's very likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election and 52% of all voters polled. There's so much more to get to...

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At 12AM midnight on the evening of November 3, President Trump was ahead by more than 110,000 votes in Wisconsin and more than 290,000 votes in Michigan. In Georgia, his lead was a whopping 356,945 and he led in Pennsylvania by more than half a million votes. Then 1 AM ' Stop The Count.
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BearForce2 said:

cbbass1 said:

BearForce2 said:

hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1500936918422495234
hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1500950846405808130
hxxps://twitter.com/realLizUSA/status/1501025827823263746

Amazing that it only took a year and five months for the crack team of experts in the GOP-controlled Secretary of State's office to figure this out -- AFTER they certified the election results!

What does it mean to certify election results? Anything? Bueller???

So you acknowledge it, congrats, you are part of the 33% of Democrats polled that said it's very likely that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 presidential election and 52% of all voters polled. There's so much more to get to...

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At 12AM midnight on the evening of November 3, President Trump was ahead by more than 110,000 votes in Wisconsin and more than 290,000 votes in Michigan. In Georgia, his lead was a whopping 356,945 and he led in Pennsylvania by more than half a million votes. Then 1 AM ' Stop The Count.

I'm a Democrat, and I know for a fact that the outcome of the 2020 Presidential election was affected by cheating -- by Republicans, especially Brad Raffenspurger, who deleted over 300,000 likely Democratic voters from GA's voter registration database in 2020. Without the Republican cheating, it wouldn't have been close. The blatant cheating by Raffenspurger and Brian Kemp has been going on for years in GA, and is well known by all Dems there. THAT's why the % of Dems that you cite is so high. The survey doesn't specify who cheated.

Like I said, you're way late to the game.
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cbbass1 said:

BearForce2 said:


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At 12AM midnight on the evening of November 3, President Trump was ahead by more than 110,000 votes in Wisconsin and more than 290,000 votes in Michigan. In Georgia, his lead was a whopping 356,945 and he led in Pennsylvania by more than half a million votes. Then 1 AM ' Stop The Count.

I'm a Democrat, and I know for a fact that the outcome of the 2020 Presidential election was affected by cheating -- by Republicans, especially Brad Raffenspurger, who deleted over 300,000 likely Democratic voters from GA's voter registration database in 2020. Without the Republican cheating, it wouldn't have been close. The blatant cheating by Raffenspurger and Brian Kemp has been going on for years in GA, and is well known by all Dems there. THAT's why the % of Dems that you cite is so high. The survey doesn't specify who cheated.

Like I said, you're way late to the game.

Since you insist there was only Republican cheating in 2020 you qualify as most delusional. Like I said, Georgia was the motherlode of cheating. In Georgia, 35,000 illegal votes cast in GA from voters in the wrong county, roughly three times the amount necessary to "tip the 2020 results. 43,907 ballots from Facebook-funded drop boxes are now under investigation because they were counted in DeKalb County even though they violated chain of custody rules. These illegal ballots are nearly 4X the margin in GA alone (11,779). All in-person ballot images are MISSING in Fulton County, GA. Fulton is also missing 17,690 mail-in ballot images -- which alone is more than the entire margin in Georgia.

During Georgia runoffs, 240 of the same people were stuffing ballots into drop boxes on multiple dates between 2am & 5am. They were paid $10 per ballot. A whistleblower admits to harvesting 4,500 ballots by himself for $45,000 payment multiply that by 240 $11,000,000.

It's you who's way late to the game. Your favorite pillow guy, Mike Lindell, has already delivered boxes filled with 50,000 affidavits from election officials to Raffenspurger's office and calling for him to be put in prison.
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Work on that "admissible evidence" thing and maybe Republicans can improve their 0 for 86 election fraud lawsuit record.

Tip: RWNJ delusions get the base all lathered up and hard but they don't comply with the evidence code.
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Republican hypocrites doing hypocritical things.

https://apnews.com/article/445316b2dda05dd21855e009411b3f21
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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BearForce2 said:

cbbass1 said:

BearForce2 said:


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At 12AM midnight on the evening of November 3, President Trump was ahead by more than 110,000 votes in Wisconsin and more than 290,000 votes in Michigan. In Georgia, his lead was a whopping 356,945 and he led in Pennsylvania by more than half a million votes. Then 1 AM ' Stop The Count.

I'm a Democrat, and I know for a fact that the outcome of the 2020 Presidential election was affected by cheating -- by Republicans, especially Brad Raffenspurger, who deleted over 300,000 likely Democratic voters from GA's voter registration database in 2020. Without the Republican cheating, it wouldn't have been close. The blatant cheating by Raffenspurger and Brian Kemp has been going on for years in GA, and is well known by all Dems there. THAT's why the % of Dems that you cite is so high. The survey doesn't specify who cheated.

Like I said, you're way late to the game.

Since you insist there was only Republican cheating in 2020 you qualify as most delusional. Like I said, Georgia was the motherlode of cheating. In Georgia, 35,000 illegal votes cast in GA from voters in the wrong county, roughly three times the amount necessary to "tip the 2020 results. 43,907 ballots from Facebook-funded drop boxes are now under investigation because they were counted in DeKalb County even though they violated chain of custody rules. These illegal ballots are nearly 4X the margin in GA alone (11,779). All in-person ballot images are MISSING in Fulton County, GA. Fulton is also missing 17,690 mail-in ballot images -- which alone is more than the entire margin in Georgia.

During Georgia runoffs, 240 of the same people were stuffing ballots into drop boxes on multiple dates between 2am & 5am. They were paid $10 per ballot. A whistleblower admits to harvesting 4,500 ballots by himself for $45,000 payment multiply that by 240 $11,000,000.

It's you who's way late to the game. Your favorite pillow guy, Mike Lindell, has already delivered boxes filled with 50,000 affidavits from election officials to Raffenspurger's office and calling for him to be put in prison.

The classic GOP election hack, in addition to cancelling voter registrations, is going into the database and changing just the precinct number for registered Democrats & likely Democratic voters. Thousands of voters then go to their normal neighborhood precinct to vote, as they always have, but the poll book says they're at the wrong precinct. Then they go to the updated precinct, but they don't show up in the poll book.

At predominantly Democratic precincts, where lines can be hours long, this is a huuge problem. So voters normally go back to their precinct, and fill out a Provisional Ballot (a.k.a., "Placebo Ballot"), which usually is not counted.

However, in 2020, Stacy Abrams urged the people who were forced to vote on a Provisional Ballot to go to the County elections office, get their registration verified, and get their Provisional Ballots counted.

So those might be some of the "illegal ballots" that you're talking about in GA. Once the voter registration is authenticated, and the precinct/county error resolved, the ballots can be counted.

GA has a law against "ballot harvesting" -- (31 states don't) which is another GOP vote suppression tactic, but I digress. So, the people who were doing this "ballot harvesting" are being prosecuted, correct? Correct??? Whaaat?? They don't even know who the guy is????

Still, there's no claim that the ballots were fraudulent. IF someone paid a bunch of criminals to vote illegally on fake ballots, those ballots, even if they were "harvested," have to go through an authentication process. The names, addresses, and biometric authentication (signature matching) are required to match each ballot to a legally registered voter.

Bottom line: Once a ballot goes into the collection box or mailbox, there's no way to distinguish a "harvested" ballot from one submitted by the registered voter. They both go through the same authentication process. If the ballot is cast by a legally registered voter, it's legal, and it gets counted.

"Harvesting" a ballot does NOT invalidate the ballot. Duh.

Wake me up when you find this "whistleblower" guy, wherever he is.

When are you going to learn what "evidence" is?? Because to find it, and present it in court, so that it's acted on in some meaningful way, you & your fellow Trumpistas will need to know what it is.

Sadly, you've made little progress in the last year.

And NO, affidavits ARE NOT evidence. They're heresay.

But hey, when Rudi Giuliani and Sidney Powell are on your legal team, hope (& delusion) spring eternal.

Those ballot images? States like Alabama usually refuse to keep the ballot images, because they don't want anyone to audit the ballot scanners. But why would anyone care about the ballot images when you have the actual ballots? When you have the actual ballots, you can re-count them -- which GA did -- THREE TIMES!

Sorry to be so harsh, but at least you're getting a "public education" on the voting process & election laws.

Thanks for being such a good sport.
 
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