Republicans gonna Republican

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Unit2Sucks
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oski003 said:

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Unit 2, I'm not really surprised.
I even wagered that he'd "back out" of it . . . even though he himself defined the bet's terms.

And no apology or admission that he backed out.
Sad really.





Yes he both complains that I goaded him into a net and that I didn't respond fast enough after he accepted the bet.

We can all see who the liar is.

Agreed.

All he had to do is apologize to you. But I guess he's not capable of doing so.
It's comical that he claimed that he was "goaded" into a simple bet; one in which he defined the terms.

It's sad that his posting name is the mascot of this fine University, but cant make good on his word.
Makes you seriously question anything that he's ever posted here.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtrf.com/ohio/ohio-police-say-candy-bar-tested-postive-for-meth-fentanyl/amp/

My original point holds true, regardless of the fact that I ended up not taking the bet. Have a wonderful day. Enjoy your Porsche.
Let's suspend disbelief for a second and assume that this isn't a right wing sicko perpetrating a false flag operation.

This has literally nothing to do with the original fear-mongering by right wing media, as amplified in your pre-halloween posts. No one ever claimed that there would be individual bad actors tampering with individual pieces of candy. That has always been a risk with halloween - and there have been numerous instances of it throughout history. There is nothing unique about it being fentanyl, except for the fact that it may have been inspired by all of the disingenuous fear-mongering.

This started because people claimed that we should be very concerned of candy colored fentanyl streaming in over the border. The purpose of the drugs being candy-colored is to appeal to younger consumers (think teenagers). There was no connection between that and halloween candy and there is no connection between that and the incident 003 linked to. Zilch, zip, nada.

The other fear-mongering was around the cartel smuggling fentanyl in through candy boxes - we saw the whoppers box at LAX filled with small pills. Again - there was never any connection between that and halloween and there is no connection between that and the incident 003 linked. Zilch, zip, nada.

Accepting halloween candy from strangers has always included an assumption of risk around bad actors tampering with and including poison. Here's an example from Ohio in 2021 but if you look around there are even more disturbing examples.

Just like with caravans and other election-year fear-mongering we've seen the last few years from the GOP, the entire candy-colored fentanyl scare was a right wing psyop. There was never any risk in relation to the underlying facts (drugs are smuggled in lots of ways, including in candy boxes, and some drugs are colorful in order to appeal to young adults and adolescents). This is nothing new and 2022 did not present a heightened risk.

003 is just proving how incredibly disingenuous he is and making excuses for the fact that he once again fell prey to an obvious right wing misinformation campaign.


Again, this is what I said

"I can assure you that most republican parents aren't afraid of a massive amount of fentanyl pills in a bulk Whoppers box as your picture indicates, which I believe is from a smuggler. Rather, parents are generally concerned because just a tiny bit of fentanyl can kill someone and fentanyl is being made to look like candy. It is that combination that makes it simply something to be weary of in your community, especially during Halloween where candy is given out by strangers and is around everywhere. I definitely agree it is nothing to be hysterical about. It sounds like you have a hysterical family."

As a parent of young children, I do have to be aware of this stuff. I don't have relatives who are crazy lunatics like your family, but we also don't bury our heads in the sand. I don't watch Fox News. I watched the fentanyl candy story on more liberal outlets. You are much closer to the fringe than I am. Stop being a revisionist. Have a wonderful day.
That's what you said after I called you out for your incredibly misleading statement about the "reality of fentanyl making its way to children" which is where this whole thing started. There is no "reality" associated with the information in the DEA press release and risk to children from halloween candy. You can respond with one of your low-energy copycat comments about reading comprehension but we all see through your tiresome and unoriginal schtick.

People can read the posts below and decide for themselves whether 003 is a reliable narrator.

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:



For those unaware of the reality of fentanyl making its way to children.

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2022/08/30/dea-warns-brightly-colored-fentanyl-used-target-young-americans
I will note for anyone with a poorly functioning brain who has trouble understanding information like this, there is a big difference between targeting young people for drug sales (like the tobacco/vape companies do) and giving your product to 5 year olds masquerading as halloween candy. Nowhere has the DEA claimed that drug dealers are giving away Fentanyl to elementary school children. What they've claimed is that drug dealers are making it look like candy to appeal to the audience they are trying to sell the drugs to in exchange for money. Pretty important distinction, and one that was the focus of my post and most other rational discussions of this imaginary halloween problem.

oski003
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Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

Unit2Sucks said:

DiabloWags said:


Unit 2, I'm not really surprised.
I even wagered that he'd "back out" of it . . . even though he himself defined the bet's terms.

And no apology or admission that he backed out.
Sad really.





Yes he both complains that I goaded him into a net and that I didn't respond fast enough after he accepted the bet.

We can all see who the liar is.

Agreed.

All he had to do is apologize to you. But I guess he's not capable of doing so.
It's comical that he claimed that he was "goaded" into a simple bet; one in which he defined the terms.

It's sad that his posting name is the mascot of this fine University, but cant make good on his word.
Makes you seriously question anything that he's ever posted here.




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtrf.com/ohio/ohio-police-say-candy-bar-tested-postive-for-meth-fentanyl/amp/

My original point holds true, regardless of the fact that I ended up not taking the bet. Have a wonderful day. Enjoy your Porsche.
Let's suspend disbelief for a second and assume that this isn't a right wing sicko perpetrating a false flag operation.

This has literally nothing to do with the original fear-mongering by right wing media, as amplified in your pre-halloween posts. No one ever claimed that there would be individual bad actors tampering with individual pieces of candy. That has always been a risk with halloween - and there have been numerous instances of it throughout history. There is nothing unique about it being fentanyl, except for the fact that it may have been inspired by all of the disingenuous fear-mongering.

This started because people claimed that we should be very concerned of candy colored fentanyl streaming in over the border. The purpose of the drugs being candy-colored is to appeal to younger consumers (think teenagers). There was no connection between that and halloween candy and there is no connection between that and the incident 003 linked to. Zilch, zip, nada.

The other fear-mongering was around the cartel smuggling fentanyl in through candy boxes - we saw the whoppers box at LAX filled with small pills. Again - there was never any connection between that and halloween and there is no connection between that and the incident 003 linked. Zilch, zip, nada.

Accepting halloween candy from strangers has always included an assumption of risk around bad actors tampering with and including poison. Here's an example from Ohio in 2021 but if you look around there are even more disturbing examples.

Just like with caravans and other election-year fear-mongering we've seen the last few years from the GOP, the entire candy-colored fentanyl scare was a right wing psyop. There was never any risk in relation to the underlying facts (drugs are smuggled in lots of ways, including in candy boxes, and some drugs are colorful in order to appeal to young adults and adolescents). This is nothing new and 2022 did not present a heightened risk.

003 is just proving how incredibly disingenuous he is and making excuses for the fact that he once again fell prey to an obvious right wing misinformation campaign.


Again, this is what I said

"I can assure you that most republican parents aren't afraid of a massive amount of fentanyl pills in a bulk Whoppers box as your picture indicates, which I believe is from a smuggler. Rather, parents are generally concerned because just a tiny bit of fentanyl can kill someone and fentanyl is being made to look like candy. It is that combination that makes it simply something to be weary of in your community, especially during Halloween where candy is given out by strangers and is around everywhere. I definitely agree it is nothing to be hysterical about. It sounds like you have a hysterical family."

As a parent of young children, I do have to be aware of this stuff. I don't have relatives who are crazy lunatics like your family, but we also don't bury our heads in the sand. I don't watch Fox News. I watched the fentanyl candy story on more liberal outlets. You are much closer to the fringe than I am. Stop being a revisionist. Have a wonderful day.
That's what you said after I called you out for your incredibly misleading statement about the "reality of fentanyl making its way to children" which is where this whole thing started. There is no "reality" associated with the information in the DEA press release and risk to children from halloween candy. You can respond with one of your low-energy copycat comments about reading comprehension but we all see through your tiresome and unoriginal schtick.

People can read the posts below and decide for themselves whether 003 is a reliable narrator.

Unit2Sucks said:

oski003 said:



For those unaware of the reality of fentanyl making its way to children.

https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2022/08/30/dea-warns-brightly-colored-fentanyl-used-target-young-americans
I will note for anyone with a poorly functioning brain who has trouble understanding information like this, there is a big difference between targeting young people for drug sales (like the tobacco/vape companies do) and giving your product to 5 year olds masquerading as halloween candy. Nowhere has the DEA claimed that drug dealers are giving away Fentanyl to elementary school children. What they've claimed is that drug dealers are making it look like candy to appeal to the audience they are trying to sell the drugs to in exchange for money. Pretty important distinction, and one that was the focus of my post and most other rational discussions of this imaginary halloween problem.




You must have really misinterpreted my post which set you on a dishonest path of internet bullying. Knock it off.
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I hope this argument about "The Bet" keeps going and going and going (I mean, even more than it already has): Great stuff!!!
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Big C said:

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I read Vance's book, Hillbilly Elegy, a few years ago and liked it. I didn't get the impression that he was an aspiring right-wing politician, just a guy telling the story of his youth. This was a guy who seemed to care about ordinary people. Then he went into politics and things went downhill: He sold a tiny bit of his soul to the devil with every successive move he made, I guess in order to stay alive in Donald Trump's GOP. I'd be curious to know what he really believes now, if anything. Can he see how he's "evolved"? I hope he gets waxed in the election, but I can't help but feel that, deep down, there's a human being in there somewhere... or there was.


I mean, wasn't that the point of the book: To launder right-wing talking points into something that can be seen as sensible?

He's a Peter Thiel guy, after all.

From 6 years ago (years before the critically panned movie):
https://newrepublic.com/article/138717/jd-vance-false-prophet-blue-america












Also from 6 years ago:
https://jacobin.com/2016/10/hillbilly-elegy-review-jd-vance-national-review-white-working-class-appalachia/





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okaydo said:

Big C said:

okaydo said:



I read Vance's book, Hillbilly Elegy, a few years ago and liked it. I didn't get the impression that he was an aspiring right-wing politician, just a guy telling the story of his youth. This was a guy who seemed to care about ordinary people. Then he went into politics and things went downhill: He sold a tiny bit of his soul to the devil with every successive move he made, I guess in order to stay alive in Donald Trump's GOP. I'd be curious to know what he really believes now, if anything. Can he see how he's "evolved"? I hope he gets waxed in the election, but I can't help but feel that, deep down, there's a human being in there somewhere... or there was.


I mean, wasn't that the point of the book: To launder right-wing talking points into something that can be seen as sensible?

He's a Peter Thiel guy, after all.

From 6 years ago (years before the critically panned movie):
https://newrepublic.com/article/138717/jd-vance-false-prophet-blue-america












Also from 6 years ago:
https://jacobin.com/2016/10/hillbilly-elegy-review-jd-vance-national-review-white-working-class-appalachia/







I don't know if Vance has been manipulated by Peter Thiel. (What was the timeline again?) All I can say is that, when I read Hillbilly Elegy, it didn't impress me as being from a particular political point of view, that that was not the point of the book. However, with every passing year (hack, passing month), JD Vance seems to be tilting more and more to the Trump right. Sad.
Unit2Sucks
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So much for China working for Biden.


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oski003
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Unit2Sucks said:

So much for China working for Biden.





The Chinese Government can still use Tik Tok to stoke flames of dissension amongst America's barely literate. Did Elon's Twitter do this or was it before the acquisition? I like the idea of a fair open forum that neither caters to Dems, Republicans, or Magas.
oski003
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okaydo said:

Now they're trying to claim he's an illegal alien.

Next thing they'll accuse him of is being a teacher.





He was indeed in the U.S. illegally.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/03/politics/david-depape-paul-pelosi-attack/index.html
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oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

So much for China working for Biden.





The Chinese Government can still use Tik Tok to stoke flames of dissension amongst America's barely literate. Did Elon's Twitter do this or was it before the acquisition? I like the idea of a fair open forum that neither caters to Dems, Republicans, or Magas.

Did the Chinese government fund 9/11?

oski003
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okaydo said:

oski003 said:

Unit2Sucks said:

So much for China working for Biden.





The Chinese Government can still use Tik Tok to stoke flames of dissension amongst America's barely literate. Did Elon's Twitter do this or was it before the acquisition? I like the idea of a fair open forum that neither caters to Dems, Republicans, or Magas.

Did the Chinese government fund 9/11?




I don't think the Chinese government funded 9/11.
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SHOCKER!

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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Maybe Nimrata Nikki Randhawa should go back to India?
I wouldnt trust her to mow my lawn.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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okaydo said:



These past 6 years have showed me that much of the Midwest is just as racist, homophobic, and bass ackwards as the South - maybe even more so in some ways.




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dimitrig said:



These past 6 years have showed me that much of the Midwest is just as racist, homophobic, and bass ackwards as the South - maybe even more so in some ways.






OHIO
IOWA
INDIANA
ILLINOIS



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