Wow y'all really think saying the same stuff with no context works

What's the different between racist Dems or Reps ?
Answer that …
Name the Reps that are calling for Reparations …

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Democrats owned slaves and the Americans fought a Civil War to free them.

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<sigh>

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chazzed said:

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Stunning moment: At a town hall in Berlin, N.H., Nikki Haley was asked by a voter what was the cause of the Civil War. She said the war was about government interfering in people’s freedoms. The voter then called her out for not mentioning slavery. pic.twitter.com/mlrelkOgmJ

— Meryl Kornfield (@MerylKornfield) December 28, 2023

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The GOP has been trying for years to downplay the fact that people once owned slaves. They also claim slavery had benefits for black people but modern policies have been a total unmitigated calamity with no benefits for blacks.

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Democrats owned slaves and the Americans fought a Civil War to free them.

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The US economy was built on the labor of enslaved Black people.

After emancipation, Black Americans uniquely were met by economic barrier after economic barrier to building generational wealth.

The US Government OWES the descendants of enslaved Black people REPARATIONS.

Cash payments

This Short is worth a click and watch

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bear2034 said:

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chazzed said:

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Stunning moment: At a town hall in Berlin, N.H., Nikki Haley was asked by a voter what was the cause of the Civil War. She said the war was about government interfering in people’s freedoms. The voter then called her out for not mentioning slavery. pic.twitter.com/mlrelkOgmJ

— Meryl Kornfield (@MerylKornfield) December 28, 2023

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The GOP has been trying for years to downplay the fact that people once owned slaves. They also claim slavery had benefits for black people but modern policies have been a total unmitigated calamity with no benefits for blacks.

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Democrats owned slaves and the Americans fought a Civil War to free them.

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The US economy was built on the labor of enslaved Black people.

After emancipation, Black Americans uniquely were met by economic barrier after economic barrier to building generational wealth.

The US Government OWES the descendants of enslaved Black people REPARATIONS.

Cash payments

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I believe something should be done to try and make up for the past's wrongs. But cash payments? Come on now, this is an impossibility.

I'll query you on how you're going to implement such a plan and every time it's going to fall apart in a terrible crumble.

You going to judge who pays and who receives based on skin color?
Despite a huge percentage of Americans having white and black ancestry?

How are you going to trace or track when someone came to the US?

How are you going to figure out the percentage of enslaved ancestry?

I do genealogy. My own white relatives can't track our ancestors back to 1850 even if I show them a chart of it.
5 seconds later it, "wait, WHO is this???"

Too much time has passed. Instead, we need social programs in areas that need help.

It is what it is. White people (MAGA) can't stand that we have immigrants arriving today. You think they are going to pay 160 year old debts by their ggg grandparents, which can't accurately be traced? Dream on. That's civil war 2.

You said the US Government OWES descendants of slaves. Can you name your slaves? Can you name your nonslaves?
And who do you think funds the US Government?? You do!
The US Government is $30T in debt. Where is this money goi g yo come from? We can't even fund Ukraine from Russian attacks.

Is it fair to make Bkack people pay taxes to give it to Ukraine? Yes or no ?

We can send money everywhere except fixing the problems here it's a Choice

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Stunning moment: At a town hall in Berlin, N.H., Nikki Haley was asked by a voter what was the cause of the Civil War. She said the war was about government interfering in people’s freedoms. The voter then called her out for not mentioning slavery. pic.twitter.com/mlrelkOgmJ

— Meryl Kornfield (@MerylKornfield) December 28, 2023

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The GOP has been trying for years to downplay the fact that people once owned slaves. They also claim slavery had benefits for black people but modern policies have been a total unmitigated calamity with no benefits for blacks.

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Democrats owned slaves and the Americans fought a Civil War to free them.

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Do you KNOW how STUPID you sound?????

Too much time has passed for who ? You .. you don't see how disingenuous that is meanwhile racism runs rampant

The us gov taketh and in turn the US givith away ? No

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Too much time has passed for who ? You .. you don't see how disingenuous that is meanwhile racism runs rampant

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Too much time has passed to connect the sinners of the past to today.

It's unjust to tax generations later for benefit generations later when you can't link the two.
Answer my questions. Can you name all your 1865 ancestors? And tell me their social position??

I'm better you cannot name 50% of them, though as a genealogist I'm cheering if you can.

I agree with the general posit of harm and repercussions generations later. Absolutely! But how to repair? Cash payments is a joke proposal as I per rice it's implementation:
White skinned people line up here: Pay.
Black skinned people line up here: Receive.

What about Asians and Latinos or Europeans who migrated through Ellis Island in 1900.
Translation: a massive swatch of Americans have NOTHING to do with slavery.

going4roses said:

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We can send money everywhere except fixing the problems here it's a Choice

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If you stretch your neck you'll find an insular thinking America First cap on your head.

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The us gov taketh and in turn the US givith away ? No

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Do you pay Federal Income taxes? I'm not talking about payroll taxes or property taxes or sales taxes. I'm talking about Federal income taxes.

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Too much time has passed for who ? You .. you don't see how disingenuous that is meanwhile racism runs rampant

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Too much time has passed to connect the sinners of the past to today.

It's unjust to tax generations later for benefit generations later when you can't link the two.
Answer my questions. Can you name all your 1865 ancestors? And tell me their social position??

I'm better you cannot name 50% of them, though as a genealogist I'm cheering if you can.

I agree with the general posit of harm and repercussions generations later. Absolutely! But how to repair? Cash payments is a joke proposal as I per rice it's implementation:
White skinned people line up here: Pay.
Black skinned people line up here: Receive.

What about Asians and Latinos or Europeans who migrated through Ellis Island in 1900.
Translation: a massive swatch of Americans have NOTHING to do with slavery.

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Flawed argument. Even those without kids must pay taxes that support public schools. Why? Because we have determined that it is the right thing to do for our society.

We would all pay reparations if we determine that it is the right thing to do.

Who would receive them is an interesting question: African blood? Or must be descendants of American slaves? And would the percentage of one's Black heritage determine how much they got?

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going4roses said:

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Too much time has passed for who ? You .. you don't see how disingenuous that is meanwhile racism runs rampant

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Too much time has passed to connect the sinners of the past to today.

It's unjust to tax generations later for benefit generations later when you can't link the two.
Answer my questions. Can you name all your 1865 ancestors? And tell me their social position??

I'm better you cannot name 50% of them, though as a genealogist I'm cheering if you can.

I agree with the general posit of harm and repercussions generations later. Absolutely! But how to repair? Cash payments is a joke proposal as I per rice it's implementation:
White skinned people line up here: Pay.
Black skinned people line up here: Receive.

What about Asians and Latinos or Europeans who migrated through Ellis Island in 1900.
Translation: a massive swatch of Americans have NOTHING to do with slavery.

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Flawed argument. Even those without kids must pay taxes that support public schools. Why? Because we have determined that it is the right thing to do for our society.

We would all pay reparations if we determine that it is the right thing to do.

Who would receive them is an interesting question: African blood? Or must be descendants of American slaves? And would the percentage of one's Black heritage determine how much they got?

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I think you misinterpreted my speech.
Of course they would not have white people line up to pay. Of course they would just tax everyone and throw it into the giant federal debt slush fund.

But when only some class of people become recipients, then they are, net, not paying taxes. And the others are.

So, as I was saying, you'd have net payers and net receivers.

And do you want to know who the net payers are going to be?

Treasury Debt holders, and that includes retirees, foreign nations, everyone. Because the US is going to one day be insolvent.



And it won't be because we decided to fund slavery reparations. It will be because of this:

1. Reagan budget deficits



2. "Read my lips, no new taxes" - concept of a balanced budget voted out.



3. "It's the economy, stupid."
No other is as important to voters.



4. Junior, then Obama, Trump and Biden, and ALL of every Congress since, will not repeated Bush Sr's folly - in times of crisis, they will run endless budget deficits, LEST THEY TOO GET VOTED OUT.



Give the people what they want, just like my 1st cousin 10x removed said.




But I digress. At issue is not whether we can afford it. That's a common excuse - not now.
The question was whether it's even implementable!

I googled "who gets slavery reparations" and there are many articles. I have not read them. If you can present for me a rationale argument for how this would be implemented (along the lines I first objected to) I will certainly listen. For, as I said, I agree with the concept that harm was committed that is felt upon people generations later. (And, to be fair, affirmative action policies have admitted this and have attempted to tip the scales to right a wrong, or a whole bunch of wrongs. So cash reparations would not be the first repair attempt.)

I just don't think a precise target plaintiff can be identified in a nation this size, this many generations later, with immigration and intermarriage. 2. We can't afford it. 3. It's the wrong repair. Better to invest in community based solutions.

Face it. We're all ****ed in the end.
Will it be sea levels that get us?
Will The Bomb finally be unleashed?
Or will sins of them past catch up to us?

https://www.surfer.com/environmental-news/cracked-vault-holding-nuclear-waste-could-leak-untold-radiation-into-the-ocean

Conclusion: quit believing in the Happy Ending. As Susan Blackmore questioned,
"Maybe we won't."

Vanilla Ice > Green Day

— Rep. Mike Collins (@RepMikeCollins) January 1, 2024

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Vanilla Ice > Green Day

— Rep. Mike Collins (@RepMikeCollins) January 1, 2024

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Milli Vanilli > Vanilla Ice

I’m looking at NFL standings on https://t.co/mwKPcWYZM0. This is the ad running above the standings. How is this possible? Appropriate? pic.twitter.com/GlMtT3VY1f

— Jason Whitlock (@WhitlockJason) January 1, 2024

So, I’m looking at the current standings. This is the ad running at the top of the page. How is this possible? Looks delicious. pic.twitter.com/aZL6NFfDWD

— Buffalo Wild Wings (@BWWings) January 2, 2024

Very bizarre: Apparently former congresswoman and current U.S. House candidate Mayra Flores has for years been posting stolen food pics https://t.co/WAdMXSYatY pic.twitter.com/ldUTTlBhYD

— Robert Downen (@RobertDownen_) January 3, 2024

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Very bizarre: Apparently former congresswoman and current U.S. House candidate Mayra Flores has for years been posting stolen food pics https://t.co/WAdMXSYatY pic.twitter.com/ldUTTlBhYD

— Robert Downen (@RobertDownen_) January 3, 2024

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How does she know George Santos?

Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven https://t.co/1cYOX4IWUx pic.twitter.com/SojL5OZDAj

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) January 16, 2024

okaydo said:

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Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven https://t.co/1cYOX4IWUx pic.twitter.com/SojL5OZDAj

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) January 16, 2024

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Booth.

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Trump Promises Vivek An Administration Position Running The White House 7-Eleven https://t.co/1cYOX4IWUx pic.twitter.com/SojL5OZDAj

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) January 16, 2024

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Booth.

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It was such an outrage that it warranted double posting.

Oooops! Did I say something wrong??



I'm sorry, I suddenly can't hear you.

This is funny. Watch it!

Far-Right Turns on Matt Gaetz For Encouraging Racial Diversity in MAGA


https://www.mediaite.com/politics/far-right-turns-on-matt-gaetz-for-encouraging-racial-diversity-in-maga-movement-extremely-embarrassing/

*MAGA has gone into the Purity Test business. What happened to tRump's sentiment?



Trying to get a handle on MAGA's doctrine of the day is like trying to grab a hold of a greased pig. I feel sorry for the poor MAGAS because the playbook is getting too complex for them to memorize.

Roger Stone should be prosecuted, says Democrat he allegedly threatened to kill | Roger Stone | The Guardian


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/jan/19/roger-stone-prosecuted-eric-swalwell-alleged-death-threat