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Cal Crypto Alum Sam Bankman-Fried Crash & Burns

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okaydo
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DiabloWags
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This movie would be EPIC!

Who do you get to play SBF?

Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


Eastern Oregon Bear
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DiabloWags said:

This movie would be EPIC!

Who do you get to play SBF?

Daniel Radcliffe?
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Unit2Sucks
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

DiabloWags said:

This movie would be EPIC!

Who do you get to play SBF?

Daniel Radcliffe?
Josh Gad. Fight me.
okaydo
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Cal alum tweet->

concordtom
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oski003 said:

Is there a way to edit the topic so it doesn't slander our great university?

Aren't our football and basketball teams already doing a good enough job of that?




….it was a JOKE, people. A joke!
concordtom
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I've listened to a considerable amount of Michael Lewis. I can't think of a better individual to be embedded with a crypto king.
This story telling should be INCREDIBLE!
Can we fast forward 5 years to hear/read/watch him tell us all about this latest multi-trillion dollar train wreck?
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

This movie would be EPIC!



Michael Lewis extended podcast might even be better!
concordtom
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wifeisafurd said:

Can someone explain the business model underlying a crypto firm? How do you make money?


I'm glad to stand with you, cluelessly, on this one!!
Eastern Oregon Bear
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Unit2Sucks said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

DiabloWags said:

This movie would be EPIC!

Who do you get to play SBF?

Daniel Radcliffe?
Josh Gad. Fight me.
No need to fight. The first thing that came to mind was Daniel Radcliffe made up to look like Weird Al Yankovic and that Weird Al and SBF are sort of similar looking. Not a lot of thought went into it on my part. I would be fine with Josh Gad
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CEO of Alameda Research is a 28-year-old Harry Potter fan

https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2022/11/caroline-ellison-alameda-research-ftx-sam-bankman-fried


Sam Bankman-Fried's crypto empire 'was run by a gang of kids in the Bahamas' who all dated each other

Many are former co-workers from quantitative trading firm Jane Street, others he met at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, his alma mater. All 10 are, or used to be, paired up in romantic relationships with each other. That includes Alameda CEO Caroline Ellison, whose firm played a central role in the company's collapse and who, at times, has dated Bankman-Fried, according to people familiar with the matter.
CoinDesk spoke to several current and former FTX and Alameda employees who agreed to talk on the condition of anonymity, citing ongoing harassment and death threats due to the exchange's solvency issues. And they said essentially this: It's a place full of conflicts of interest, nepotism and lack of oversight.
"The whole operation was run by a gang of kids in the Bahamas," a person familiar with the matter told CoinDesk on the condition of anonymity.

https://fortune.com/2022/11/11/sam-bankman-fried-crypto-empire-ftx-alameda-run-gang-kids-bahamas-who-all-dated-each-other/




concordtom
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How long do people live after huge flame outs like this?
I was thinking this guy SBF might not have a long life.
DiabloWags
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concordtom said:

How long do people live after huge flame outs like this?
I was thinking this guy SBF might not have a long life.

How about having a bullseye on his back for the rest of his life because of the lives of the customers who he literally "stole" money from at FTX?

You dont think he's got some pretty pissed off customers that want to see him dead?

I'd say that your idea of him having "health" issues is a lot different than mine.


Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


okaydo
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okaydo
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Diablo is guilty of conflating Berkeley with Cal.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221027181005/https://www.sequoiacap.com/article/sam-bankman-fried-spotlight/
DiabloWags
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okaydo said:

Diablo is guilty of conflating Berkeley with Cal.

https://web.archive.org/web/20221027181005/https://www.sequoiacap.com/article/sam-bankman-fried-spotlight/

Guilty as charged.

Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

concordtom said:

How long do people live after huge flame outs like this?
I was thinking this guy SBF might not have a long life.

How about having a bullseye on his back for the rest of his life because of the lives of the customers who he literally "stole" money from at FTX?

You dont think he's got some pretty pissed off customers that want to see him dead?

I'd say that your idea of him having "health" issues is a lot different than mine.




I saw a brief video of him.
He looked overweight and weird.
DiabloWags
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"I will take Alameda Research for $200 Alex"



Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


wraptor347
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Fun video detailing a SBF interview from earlier this year

okaydo
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DiabloWags
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When you're too dumb to keep your mouth shut about your biggest competitor...
And they own $580 million of one of your tokens.

It comes back to DESTROY you.


FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried triggered downfall by badmouthing crypto rival: sources (nypost.com)
Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


okaydo
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Cal88
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I wouldn't say they were "cretenous sociopaths with Chan politics", they're more like run of the mill elitist, eugenicist, transhumanist sociopath geeks:



https://decrypt.co/114719/tumblr-blog-linked-ex-alameda-research-ceo-explored-race-science-imperial-chinese-harem-polyamory

One thing they also are is a pretty compelling story, I mean this whole saga is more entertaining than Rick Gervais' best work on steroids.
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DiabloWags
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Just read the article above and the comments by the Bankruptcy CEO, John Ray.

It would appear that SBF didnt even pretend to try and make FTX a genuine business enterprise.

Binance CEO Changpen Zhao must have taken one look at the "books" of FTX (which were non-exsistent according to Mr. Ray) and knew right then and there . . . that his biggest competitor was DONE.

(My guess is that CZ already knew that FTX was in pretty bad shape, but it must have really shocked him when SBF invited him to "kick the tires")

It's shocking that anyone with a brain would think that their company (FTX) could be "saved" by a White Knight without the slightest bit of basic financial accounting and record keeping.

What a freaking Horror Show!

SBF = IDIOT




Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


wifeisafurd
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

Is there a way to edit the topic so it doesn't slander our great university?

Aren't our football and basketball teams already doing a good enough job of that?




….it was a JOKE, people. A joke!

Cal Sports hates fun!
okaydo
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DiabloWags said:


Just read the article above and the comments by the Bankruptcy CEO, John Ray.

It would appear that SBF didnt even pretend to try and make FTX a genuine business enterprise.
Binance CEO Changpen Zhao must have taken one look at the "books" of FTX (which were non-exsistent according to Mr. Ray) and knew right then and there . . . that his biggest competitor was DONE.

(My guess is that CZ already knew that FTX was in pretty bad shape, but it must have really shocked him when SBF invited him to "kick the tires")

It's shocking that anyone with a brain would think that their company (FTX) could be "saved" by a White Knight without the slightest bit of basic financial accounting and record keeping.

What a freaking Horror Show!

SBF = IDIOT






But did CZ make the right decision? FTX could take down the whole crypto thing. Did CZ shoot himself in the foot?
DiabloWags
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okaydo said:




But did CZ make the right decision? FTX could take down the whole crypto thing. Did CZ shoot himself in the foot?

You make a good point.

I guess the definition of "good" money being thrown at "bad" money is all up to one's perspective.
That "bad" money (FTX) may have been so far gone and completely beyond his control.

Could CZ really have stepped in and saved FTX (and the entire crypto-ecosystem) from collapse?
And even if he did have the resources to do so, would SBF put his ego "down" for long enough to submit to CZ's demands and new business plan?

Either CZ had the resources, had a pretty good idea of how far "gone" FTX was and understood the "fallout" impacting the entire crypto environment for years to come .... but chose not to intervene because SBF was a maniac AND FTX was too far gone . . . or he didnt have the resources to make a capital injection that he would have little control over given FTX's non-existent compliance and accounting department.

CZ is smart enough to know that this is an emerging industry and there would be multiple "failures" along the way. He probably just felt like he had to "hunker" down and watch crypto adoption around the globe take a massive hit. The collapse of FTX has reportedly cost CZ roughly $16 Billion.

For now, he's probably thinking "survival of the fittest" and who can he acquire (Voyager Digital) without taking on too much risk.



Cults don't end well. Think Jonestown.


Unit2Sucks
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okaydo said:

DiabloWags said:


Just read the article above and the comments by the Bankruptcy CEO, John Ray.

It would appear that SBF didnt even pretend to try and make FTX a genuine business enterprise.
Binance CEO Changpen Zhao must have taken one look at the "books" of FTX (which were non-exsistent according to Mr. Ray) and knew right then and there . . . that his biggest competitor was DONE.

(My guess is that CZ already knew that FTX was in pretty bad shape, but it must have really shocked him when SBF invited him to "kick the tires")

It's shocking that anyone with a brain would think that their company (FTX) could be "saved" by a White Knight without the slightest bit of basic financial accounting and record keeping.

What a freaking Horror Show!

SBF = IDIOT






But did CZ make the right decision? FTX could take down the whole crypto thing. Did CZ shoot himself in the foot?


How many scams is too many? Seems like crypto bros have an infinite appetite to volunteer for Ponzi schemes. It's like MLM but without the skin cream.
okaydo
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okaydo said:




Cheaters post about cheaters!
DiabloWags
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"Nothing like regular amphetamine use to make you appreciate how dumb a lot of normal, non-medicated human experience is."

Caroline Ellison
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Aunburdened
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DiabloWags said:

This movie would be EPIC!

Who do you get to play SBF?

Maybe we shouldn't glorify SBF. Better title would have been "The Frauds."

Aun "unburdened by what has been" Bear is the OG legend
- DaddyLegend 9/6/2026
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