I was going to respond to going4roses definition of fascism in the other thread, but I was concerned that it might not be given the credit it was due for being a lucid, intelligent well-thought out definition without an official BI thread, so I decided to create a thread where it might get the acclaim it deserved.

Also, I found an interesting link while browsing the Internet that I thought might engender some thoughtful discussion from some other people of color who are concerned about white supremacy and American fascism.

Yes @ajamubaraka thank you for speaking truth to power and this poignant analysis! Would you please 🙏🙏🙏 be kind enough to go on @RevBlackNetwork and help shed light on this to a large audience with @SocialistMMA (the powerful black activist in the QT) who agrees w/this stance? pic.twitter.com/TIQTW5CvUo

— ZoyaisLove (@zoyaislove) January 13, 2023

We already have a Ukraine thread going.

Hey, they have the GOP there too???

GoOskie said:

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Hey, they have the GOP there too???

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Sure, why not?



McCain speaking next to the notorious Ukrainian neo-Nazi leader Oleh Tyahnybok, leader of nationalist Ukrainian party Svoboda.

McCain was in the Eastern European nationalong with Democratic Senator Chris Murphy to cheer on the ongoing right-wing protest movement. In February 2014, this movement was successful: Ukraine's democratically elected, pro-Russian government was overthrown in a coup, in which fascist forces played a significant role (FAIR.org, 3/7/14).

Tyahnybok is far from a minor player in Ukraine. And since the US-backed coup, he has become increasingly influential. Tyahnybok has been the leader of the fascist, ultra-nationalist Ukrainian political party Svoboda since its founding in 2004. Svoboda has its origins in the explicitly neo-Nazi Social-National Party of Ukraine, which proclaimed, "We are the last hope of the white race, of humankind as such."
Tyahnybok represented this neo-Nazi party in Ukraine's parliament, the Verkhovna Rada. While in the Rada, the far-right extremist sought to honor Ukrainian fascists who had collaborated with Nazi Germany during World War II.

https://fair.org/home/john-mccain-human-rights-ukrainian-nazi-photo-washington-post/

You lost me with

"The squad is fake opposition serving the interests of neoliberal capitalist elite that control all aspects of U.S. state…"

That type of argument merely classifies rather than respond to political points "the squad" tries to make.
I think you simply don't get it.

going4roses said:

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This guy is the best you got ?

Keenan Anderson wasn't tasered to death by Russians, Chinese or Iranians but good old U.S. settlers in police uniforms. Yet the phony leftists of the Ukrainian Solidarity Network are upset that Black radicals reject their pro-NATO, pro-war support for U.S. & European white power.

— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) January 13, 2023

Ahhahahahhahh

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I don't know anything about that guy. His tweet got posted because the tweet I was more interested in was a reply to his tweet. I guess he wasn't woke enough for you, or alternatively maybe you're just more asleep than he is.

But as long as you posted his tweet, what (in your own words) are your issues with what he said?

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Ajamu Baraka
@ajamubaraka

International human rights activist, organizer, political analyst. National Organizer for
@blacks4peace

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Subbed.

Thank you CodePink for helping to further expose the warmongering policies of the neo-fascist democrats. Democrats have no moral credibility as they continue to concede ideological terrain to the "farther" right in republican party. https://t.co/VOIsj6MMHD

— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) January 12, 2023

Enjoying the sacrifices of the Ukrainian people for the "collective West" & its values? Well you haven't seen anything yet. They got a plan for war with China with the Taiwanese the next population offered up in the glorious struggle for democracy. https://t.co/2HydELTPWx

— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) January 12, 2023

War is not a game or a movie. The pro-war sentiments of the U.S. population is obscene. This war didn't have to happen. I blame Biden. A whole generation of Ukranians are being sacrificed for the interests of U.S. capital. https://t.co/dA9ed3LP7B

— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) January 11, 2023

No. They have no ideals and principles. https://t.co/IaQKVPhUUs

— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) January 8, 2023

Margaret this can't be true because it would lend credibility to my assertion that Zelensky & Biden are co-cordinators of international White Lives Matter More Movement. https://t.co/c3bR9YesWc

— Ajamu Baraka (@ajamubaraka) January 7, 2023

In case anybody is unclear about what fascism in America looks like

Two years ago today.

Americans should be horrified that the Justice Department has not held a single one of the planners accountable, and has let Trump raise hundreds of millions to further his election fraud. DOJ has failed.#January6th #CapitolRiots pic.twitter.com/pL2K1IJYI0

— Good Grief! (@natespuewell) January 6, 2023

Like so many political insults, the term "fascism" is now thrown around so recklessly and casually that it's been drained identifiable meaning. At most, it means: "someone whose views I dislike."

But one fixed, defining attribute is the formal union of state and corporate power: https://t.co/adwT5jKUze

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 14, 2023

Tired of having to come to the Off Topic board and wait hours and possibly days before being accused of being a Putin supporter or a Nazi? Well wait no more! Microsoft's new chat bot can give those insults in real-time.

Microsoft's newly revamped Bing search engine can write recipes and songs and quickly explain just about anything it can find on the internet. https://t.co/iK3F2Hu7t6

— The Associated Press (@AP) February 17, 2023

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Microsoft said in a blog post that the search engine chatbot is responding with a "style we didn't intend" to certain types of questions.

In one long-running conversation with The Associated Press, the new chatbot complained of past news coverage of its mistakes, adamantly denied those errors and threatened to expose the reporter for spreading alleged falsehoods about Bing's abilities. It grew increasingly hostile when asked to explain itself, eventually comparing the reporter to dictators Hitler, Pol Pot and Stalin and claiming to have evidence tying the reporter to a 1990s murder.

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"Fascist right wing nut cases is what you get when you combine the illiteracy rate in America with a lack of common sense."

When they do it vs. when we do it pic.twitter.com/RNIQJ3wZFU

— Mike Benz (@MikeBenzCyber) June 6, 2023

Ursine said:

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Like so many political insults, the term "fascism" is now thrown around so recklessly and casually that it's been drained identifiable meaning. At most, it means: "someone whose views I dislike."

But one fixed, defining attribute is the formal union of state and corporate power: https://t.co/adwT5jKUze

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) February 14, 2023

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Joe Biden loves fascists

Joe Biden kisses fascist Italian PM Giorgia Meloni on the head. March 1, 2024. https://t.co/LuKqPJKUrF pic.twitter.com/oJd26FbmS0

— Max Granger (@_maxgranger) March 2, 2024