It won't resolve successfully for tRump. It never does. Court has never been his friend because of taking oaths, evidence and proof.

tRump clearly becoming unhinged by 4 criminal proceedings involving 91 felony counts and a civil case in NYC, the outcome of which, is merely about the size of numbers now.

Trump: "If somebody is beating you by 10, 15, or 20 points, like we’re doing with crooked Joe Biden -- let’s indict the motherfucker." pic.twitter.com/eOr6FUF7jq

— Kate Sullivan (@KateSullivanDC) September 29, 2023

* I'd like to say he's losing it but that would require that at some point he actually had "it."

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BREAKING: Trump is SUING ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele over his infamous 'dirty dossier' which claimed that Russia had compromising material on the former US President

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The Steele Dossier did prove Putin had kompromat on Trump. We learned from the Steele Dossier that during the 2016 campaign Trump was trying to negotiate a real estate deal in Moscow. Trump was lying to the American people about it and Putin knew.

Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Trump imitating Biden getting lost on stage is hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

pic.twitter.com/HqjOex9EdN

— Benny Johnson (@bennyjohnson) September 29, 2023

Bro....

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BREAKING: Trump is SUING ex-MI6 agent Christopher Steele over his infamous 'dirty dossier' which claimed that Russia had compromising material on the former US President

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The Steele Dossier did prove Putin had kompromat on Trump. We learned from the Steele Dossier that during the 2016 campaign Trump was trying to negotiate a real estate deal in Moscow. Trump was lying to the American people about it and Putin knew.

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Your girl, Hillary Clinton, laundered money through her campaign's law firm to pay Russian nationals, such as Danchenko, for false "intel" contained in the Steele dossier that was then peddled on her behalf to the Department of Justice, FBI, and CIA, resulting in the illegal surveillance of an American citizen.

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Because we like his policies...maybe its time to stop being hostile to anybody that supports a different political candidate. It's a joke the demonization you guys have for "MAGA" folks. The names, the hostile attitude, you guys are literally othering AMERICAN CITIZENS. You're doing exactly what happens in dysfunctional 3rd world countries. Maybe its time to be a little kinder to people. Maybe its time to stop the demonization, and maybe you'd be shocked that you get treated the same in return.

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dimitrig said:

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Because we like his policies...maybe its time to stop being hostile to anybody that supports a different political candidate. It's a joke the demonization you guys have for "MAGA" folks. The names, the hostile attitude, you guys are literally othering AMERICAN CITIZENS. You're doing exactly what happens in dysfunctional 3rd world countries. Maybe its time to be a little kinder to people. Maybe its time to stop the demonization, and maybe you'd be shocked that you get treated the same in return.

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"Liberal Jews who voted to destroy America"
Donald Trump

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Because we like his policies...maybe its time to stop being hostile to anybody that supports a different political candidate. It's a joke the demonization you guys have for "MAGA" folks. The names, the hostile attitude, you guys are literally othering AMERICAN CITIZENS. You're doing exactly what happens in dysfunctional 3rd world countries. Maybe its time to be a little kinder to people. Maybe its time to stop the demonization, and maybe you'd be shocked that you get treated the same in return.

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"Liberal Jews who voted to destroy America"
Donald Trump

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You guys spew stuff worse than that to people you don't even know for supporting Trump.

"If you don't support me, you ain't black"
-Joe Biden

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dimitrig said:

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Because we like his policies...maybe its time to stop being hostile to anybody that supports a different political candidate. It's a joke the demonization you guys have for "MAGA" folks. The names, the hostile attitude, you guys are literally othering AMERICAN CITIZENS. You're doing exactly what happens in dysfunctional 3rd world countries. Maybe its time to be a little kinder to people. Maybe its time to stop the demonization, and maybe you'd be shocked that you get treated the same in return.

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"Liberal Jews who voted to destroy America"
Donald Trump

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You guys spew stuff worse than that to people you don't even know for supporting Trump.

"If you don't support me, you ain't black"
-Joe Biden

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Not even close to the same. Who cares about Biden's opinion of your blackness?

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Trump Indicted For Murder Of Tupac https://t.co/9TA77YpJU3 pic.twitter.com/4cCwNd23eH

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) September 30, 2023

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dimitrig said:

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Because we like his policies...maybe its time to stop being hostile to anybody that supports a different political candidate. It's a joke the demonization you guys have for "MAGA" folks. The names, the hostile attitude, you guys are literally othering AMERICAN CITIZENS. You're doing exactly what happens in dysfunctional 3rd world countries. Maybe its time to be a little kinder to people. Maybe its time to stop the demonization, and maybe you'd be shocked that you get treated the same in return.

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Libs
Libruls
Libtards
Lefties
Soy boys
Snowflakes
Commies
Pinkos
Socialists
Marxists
Nazis (cuz logic doesn't matter to you clowns)
Sjws
Edit to add:
Dims
Dimocrats
DemocRATS
Dumbocrats
Loonie Left
Liberal is a mental disorder

And you lot get worked up when called liars, hypocrites, and morons.

I sarcastically love how Trump supporters accuse others of having TDS and being obsessed with hating him, as if being concerned about his constant lies and abuse of power is odd, but never seem to ask themselves if they have TDS by being so obsessed with loving the man and excusing what can only be called abnormal, anti-democratic, anti-American behavior. It's not weird to dislike Trump. It is beyond weird to still like him now when all the evidence of his grift and threat to the country are available to you.

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I sarcastically love how Trump supporters accuse others of having TDS and being obsessed with hating him, as if being concerned about his constant lies and abuse of power is odd, but never seem to ask themselves if they have TDS by being so obsessed with loving the man and excusing what can only be called abnormal, anti-democratic, anti-American behavior. It's not weird to dislike Trump. It is beyond weird to still like him now when all the evidence of his grift and threat to the country are available to you.

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"It's not weird to dislike him, it's weird to like him."

That paragraph in one sentence.

That's like your opinion.

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I sarcastically love how Trump supporters accuse others of having TDS and being obsessed with hating him, as if being concerned about his constant lies and abuse of power is odd, but never seem to ask themselves if they have TDS by being so obsessed with loving the man and excusing what can only be called abnormal, anti-democratic, anti-American behavior. It's not weird to dislike Trump. It is beyond weird to still like him now when all the evidence of his grift and threat to the country are available to you.

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It's as if the constant lies and abuse of power started in 2016 and ended in 2020...

I'm not buying that until there are charges and a trial against Joe Biden or any other Dem that you are talking about.

I'm not even requiring a conviction to buy your argument. Often there is an acquittal or a hung jury and I'm still convinced by the evidence that the defendant got away with it.

The state of play right now is that tRump, his associates and many of his January 6 insurrectionists are not doing well in the criminal or civil court system (including in front of tRump appointed judges).

Presently it is all allegations with no beef against Biden, et al.

Certainly Hunter Biden broke the law. Let a jury decide his fate….and let a jury decide tRump's fate.

…and if Joe Biden committed crimes, charge and try him and let a jury decide his fate.

tRump and his family members have already been told by their own attorneys that they have committed felonies and for that reason they will all have to invoke their 5th Amendment privilege if they are called as witnesses in court in a civil or criminal trial.

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I sarcastically love how Trump supporters accuse others of having TDS and being obsessed with hating him, as if being concerned about his constant lies and abuse of power is odd, but never seem to ask themselves if they have TDS by being so obsessed with loving the man and excusing what can only be called abnormal, anti-democratic, anti-American behavior. It's not weird to dislike Trump. It is beyond weird to still like him now when all the evidence of his grift and threat to the country are available to you.

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It's as if the constant lies and abuse of power started in 2016 and ended in 2020...

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Every American needs to understand how much propaganda is pushed through the mainstream media.

When kids were being sent to migrant facilities under Trump, Rachel Maddow started “crying” on live air and could barely finish her talking points.

When the same thing happens under… pic.twitter.com/x2CMJG48ml

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) September 30, 2023

Similarly, children in cages were ignored during the Obama years, brought to light during Trump, and is being ignored again under Biden.

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I sarcastically love how Trump supporters accuse others of having TDS and being obsessed with hating him, as if being concerned about his constant lies and abuse of power is odd, but never seem to ask themselves if they have TDS by being so obsessed with loving the man and excusing what can only be called abnormal, anti-democratic, anti-American behavior. It's not weird to dislike Trump. It is beyond weird to still like him now when all the evidence of his grift and threat to the country are available to you.

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It's as if the constant lies and abuse of power started in 2016 and ended in 2020...

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Ah, the old stand by whataboutism. I said Trump lies and is a threat to the country with his law breaking and authoritarianism and you did not respond with he doesn't lie or break laws or represent an authoritarian threat. You instead made a broad cynical everyone does hand wave. So is it that you don't care what Trump does or that you so dislike when other people do care that makes you excuse it?

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I sarcastically love how Trump supporters accuse others of having TDS and being obsessed with hating him, as if being concerned about his constant lies and abuse of power is odd, but never seem to ask themselves if they have TDS by being so obsessed with loving the man and excusing what can only be called abnormal, anti-democratic, anti-American behavior. It's not weird to dislike Trump. It is beyond weird to still like him now when all the evidence of his grift and threat to the country are available to you.

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It's as if the constant lies and abuse of power started in 2016 and ended in 2020...

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Every American needs to understand how much propaganda is pushed through the mainstream media.

When kids were being sent to migrant facilities under Trump, Rachel Maddow started “crying” on live air and could barely finish her talking points.

When the same thing happens under… pic.twitter.com/x2CMJG48ml

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) September 30, 2023

Similarly, children in cages were ignored during the Obama years, brought to light during Trump, and is being ignored again under Biden.

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I see. You don't like Rachel and so it's okay that Trump lies and is a threat to our country.

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I see. You don't like Rachel and so it's okay that Trump lies and is a threat to our country.

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I love Rachel and was sad to see her take an extended leave of absence from MSNBC after Muller's testimony.

I'm convinced, more than ever before, that tRump may not be competent to understand the nature of the legal proceedings swarming around him.

Trump: They weren't defrauded, I've been defrauded with the judge that ruled that a property is worth $18 billion— $18 million when in fact it's worth over a billion, probably a billion and a half pic.twitter.com/XmRPr7eq9e

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 2, 2023

Trump continues to attack the judge and the AG before heading back to court pic.twitter.com/ncty4cXvVV

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 2, 2023

*You learn as a child not to poke the bear of one with power over you. When you become a trial lawyer it starts to dawn on you that insulting the trial judge never has a happy ending for the attorney or party that does it. tRump, with his entitled upbringing, never believed he was subject to the Rules of the Universe that keep the rest of us in line. tRump is embarking on a learning adventure now.
His only way out is to "win" in 2024 and plow under the judicial system.

Court is a tailor made nightmare for him because he is always guilty as charged so he can't testify on his own behalf without incriminating himself. He is too stupid to memorize a lawyer prepared script with plausible lies, and too stupid to know when he can answer a non damaging question honestly because his default setting is to lie about everything.

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I'm convinced, more than ever before, that tRump may not be competent to understand the nature of the legal proceedings swarming around him.

Trump: They weren't defrauded, I've been defrauded with the judge that ruled that a property is worth $18 billion— $18 million when in fact it's worth over a billion, probably a billion and a half pic.twitter.com/XmRPr7eq9e

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 2, 2023

Trump continues to attack the judge and the AG before heading back to court pic.twitter.com/ncty4cXvVV

— Acyn (@Acyn) October 2, 2023

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Not only he is dumb enough to attack the judge, but as I posed in the other thread, he hired attorneys dumb enough to choose a bench trial, full well knowing that he couldn't stop himself from threatening and attacking the judge at every opportunity.

He knows he's screwed and he's only acting out in order to attempt to deligitimize the system. It won't save him from the consequences of his fraud and I won't be surprised if he has to file bankruptcy again because he won't be able to come up with the cash to pay his damages.

Although maybe one of his Saudi friends will cut him a deal for MAL.

Well, the liability phase was decided against him by partial summary judgment and conventional wisdom is judges* are more conservative with damage/fine numbers than juries are, which is why every plaintiff in an employment or personal injury case wants a jury in the hopes of getting a bell ringing payday.

*I am not sure this applies when you publicly cast aspersions on your trial judge during trial.

Are the walls closing in again?

Maralago is worth a billion
https://www.threads.net/@remakingmanhood/post/Cx6az-xOdyL/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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Maralago is worth a billion
https://www.threads.net/@remakingmanhood/post/Cx6az-xOdyL/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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It's definitely not worth $1B or more, but the property tax appraisal doesn't mean it's worth $18M either. I wouldn't be surprised if it's worth as much as $100-150M legitimately but it's really hard to say because it can't be used as a residence, only as a social club. And as a social club, it's just not a great business.

No one would pay $1B or more for a social club with ~$20M of revenue, much of which is based on people hoping to curry favor (or spy on) the POTUS.

If Trump were my dementia riddled grandfather I wouldn't let him out of the house
https://www.threads.net/@allysammarco/post/Cx5icXjLLk0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

80% of Letitia's case against Trump tossed on day 1. Devastating for Letitia.

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If Trump were my dementia riddled grandfather I wouldn't let him out of the house
https://www.threads.net/@allysammarco/post/Cx5icXjLLk0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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He's willing to ask and answer the tough questions that people should expect the leader of the free world to have command of.

Slurring his words, Trump starts riffing about how he would rather be electrocuted to death than be eaten by a shark. pic.twitter.com/yqPrxWRzN3

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 1, 2023

The people who know him best think the least of him:

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John Kelly, the longest-serving White House chief of staff for Donald Trump, offered his harshest criticism yet of the former president in an exclusive statement to CNN.

Kelly set the record straight with on-the-record confirmation of a number of damning stories about statements Trump made behind closed doors attacking US service members and veterans, listing a number of objectionable comments Kelly witnessed Trump make firsthand.

"What can I add that has not already been said?" Kelly said, when asked if he wanted to weigh in on his former boss in light of recent comments made by other former Trump officials. "A person that thinks those who defend their country in uniform, or are shot down or seriously wounded in combat, or spend years being tortured as POWs are all 'suckers' because 'there is nothing in it for them.' A person that did not want to be seen in the presence of military amputees because 'it doesn't look good for me.' A person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family for all Gold Star families on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America's defense are 'losers' and wouldn't visit their graves in France.

"A person who is not truthful regarding his position on the protection of unborn life, on women, on minorities, on evangelical Christians, on Jews, on working men and women," Kelly continued. "A person that has no idea what America stands for and has no idea what America is all about. A person who cavalierly suggests that a selfless warrior who has served his country for 40 years in peacetime and war should lose his life for treason in expectation that someone will take action. A person who admires autocrats and murderous dictators. A person that has nothing but contempt for our democratic institutions, our Constitution, and the rule of law.

"There is nothing more that can be said," Kelly concluded. "God help us."

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It's not just Trump who wants to abandon democracy - the "intellectual" wing of the GOP (including a Cal grad - Michael Anton) - has been expressly calling for us to abandon democracy in favor of tyranny. They say it will save American values which basically means bringing us back to the prejudice and privilege our country was founded on. At least they are no longer pretending that democracy is an American value they ... value.

Today is a good day to learn the term "Red Caesar" -- and sound the alarm https://t.co/5V1fbPOFbd

— Will Bunch (@Will_Bunch) October 2, 2023

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Why some folks still support this jackass is beyond me.

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Why anyone ever supported him is beyond me.

We've known since the 1980s what kind of person he is.

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Because we like his policies...maybe its time to stop being hostile to anybody that supports a different political candidate. It's a joke the demonization you guys have for "MAGA" folks. The names, the hostile attitude, you guys are literally othering AMERICAN CITIZENS. You're doing exactly what happens in dysfunctional 3rd world countries. Maybe its time to be a little kinder to people. Maybe its time to stop the demonization, and maybe you'd be shocked that you get treated the same in return.

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His policies? His policies are to enrich himself by suckers like you.

Trump is having another epic tantrum today - maybe someone needs to change his diaper.

He is unleashing his pathetic blend of intimidation and juvenile insults against the judge and prosecutor as well as attempting to encourage one of his dimwit deplorable followers to engage in acts of violence. Unfortunately the first amendment creates an opportunity for dangerous and malevolent people like Trump to stoke stochastic violence in this country.

Here are the quotes today. I look forward to people like BearGoggles ignoring this entirely while pointing out that he thinks the Clintons' charity (which has never been found to have done anything wrong, and did not enrich the Clintons whatsoever) is the real problem.

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The rarely used Executive Law that the N.Y.A.G. is proceeding under is VERY UNFAIR, and being used against me for that reason. NY Executive Law 63 (12) does not require a victim, traditional elements of fraud are eliminated (the only such law!), the law allows a politically elected partisan prosecutor to convince a politically elected judge, who may be friends, to destroy even a Political Opponent. This law may not be Constitutional and is not FAIR, and that is why terrible A.G. James chose it to use against me!!!

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Now that it has been agreed in Court that Mar-a-Lago is WORTH 50 to 100 times the Value the Racist & Incompetent Attorney General of New York State, Letitia "Peekaboo" James, ascribed to it (18 Million Dollars), & likewise other assets that were valued crazily low by this "Monster" that has allowed Violent Crime in New York to reach EPIDEMIC levels, and dangerous illegal migrants to roam free all over our State, we hope the Judge will TERMINATE his first ruling of fraud in that he was given false and ridiculous information by the Trump Deranged Lunatic, A.G. James. In actuality, I am WORTH FAR MORE than the numbers put down on the Financial Statements, not less. In addition, there is a far reaching and professionally drawn Disclaimer Clause boldly stated on the FIRST PAGE OF THE DOCUMENT. This entire case should be thrown out and dismissed. The A.G. should be reprimanded and sanctioned for bringing this case with its FAKE LOW VALUES, in order to make me look bad. Election Interference!

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I know I know, the real problem is anyone who criticizes Trump. The very good conservative normal people might support him quietly and vote for him and enjoy his "policies" and quietly enjoy his attempts to delegitimize the rule of law and enjoy his attacks on people they don't like, but they can pretend that they have clean hands because they don't wear red hats and they didn't storm the capital for him.

At what point will the good conservatives say enough is enough? The answer is never, because all of their talk abut traditional values, etc. is only useful to them when they can wield it as a weapon. It was never meant to apply to the people they support.

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80% of Letitia's case against Trump tossed on day 1. Devastating for Letitia.

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This is the kind of thing you believe if you think Trump is not an idiot and a liar. In this instance it is hard to tell which applies - liar or idiot
https://www.threads.net/@wildchildeducated/post/Cx8dXqsOAr5/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

New York judge issues gag order after Trump attacks clerk on Truth Social | The Hill


https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/4236476-new-york-judge-issues-gag-order-after-trump-attacks-clerk-on-truth-social/

tRump posted this courtroom sketch on Truth Social: