Biden's declining faculties

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calbear93
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dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.
dajo9
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.
calbear93
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dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.

dajo9
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv
calbear93
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dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).
dajo9
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff
calbear93
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dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff


In. Value add. You got this. We are in good hands. No wonder you think Biden is the best president in your generation, our economy is booming and that we would believe you have an MBA. Out. You aren't stupid at all.
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calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

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concordtom said:

Trump will end democracy as we know it.
Full stop.


And Trump will not end democracy. If all it took was a moron and narcissist to end democracy, we would not have survived the Harding administration.

Hyperbole and inability to think calmly will not make you any more persuasive.
Inability to understand how complete Trump's takeover of the Republican party has been, and how long it took to methodically implement that takeover will not make you more persuasive.

Trump does not support "democracy" unless it results with him in power, and a lot of planning has already been done to vastly expand his presidential authority should he win again.

Making sure Trump never resumes authority is essential to maintaining democracy as we know it.
Our democracy survived a civil war, corruption, almost a dictator in FDR, assassination of president, criminal conduct and resignation by Nixon, and January 6 attack. If it is dependent on one man's commitment to democracy, we would not have survived.

There will always be another Trump. There are already Trump mini-me's. What matters is our system of government (which many here want to also tear down for expediency) and the people's tolerance for dictators.

And yes, posting pictures of Trump as a Nazi, devil, etc. is not persuading anyone other than making others question the poster's sanity.

He is bad enough without the hyperbole. He is a self-centered, self-focused, narcissist con man. No need to exaggerate.

We also don't need to treat Trump (we already went through this once) as an existential risk creating hyperventilating anxiety for fear of our democracy when folks like you at the same time star fake liberal posters who want to bring down own checks and balances for expediency sake.

Before Trump, they told us GW Bush was a Nazi/dictator. And before that, Romney and McCain and HW Bush I. Every republican candidate is the bogeyman. It is such contrived and obvious political propaganda, but people on the left and in the press (I repeat myself) lap it up.

The irony in all of this is that Biden, in his own way, has been equally (and arguably far more) authoritarian and undemocratic than Trump ever was. Obviously unlawful edicts (student loan forgiveness, OSHA vaccine orders), failure to enforce immigration laws, attempts to censor via pressure on private companies, and establishment of a "Truth Ministry" (aka disinformation board led by far left partisans) are only some of the examples. 65% of Dems are in favor of government censorship of online platforms, but Trump is the threat.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/18/more-americans-now-say-government-should-take-steps-to-restrict-false-information-online-than-in-2018/

And since certain people here will always argue in bad faith, my point is not a defense of Trump. The point is that dems don't really worry about authoritarianism. They just want their team to be the dictators.

dajo9
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff


In. Value add. You got this. We are in good hands. No wonder you think Biden is the best president in your generation, our economy is booming and that we would believe you have an MBA. Out. You aren't stupid at all.



In. Vvvvvvvv
calbear93
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BearGoggles said:

calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Trump will end democracy as we know it.
Full stop.


And Trump will not end democracy. If all it took was a moron and narcissist to end democracy, we would not have survived the Harding administration.

Hyperbole and inability to think calmly will not make you any more persuasive.
Inability to understand how complete Trump's takeover of the Republican party has been, and how long it took to methodically implement that takeover will not make you more persuasive.

Trump does not support "democracy" unless it results with him in power, and a lot of planning has already been done to vastly expand his presidential authority should he win again.

Making sure Trump never resumes authority is essential to maintaining democracy as we know it.
Our democracy survived a civil war, corruption, almost a dictator in FDR, assassination of president, criminal conduct and resignation by Nixon, and January 6 attack. If it is dependent on one man's commitment to democracy, we would not have survived.

There will always be another Trump. There are already Trump mini-me's. What matters is our system of government (which many here want to also tear down for expediency) and the people's tolerance for dictators.

And yes, posting pictures of Trump as a Nazi, devil, etc. is not persuading anyone other than making others question the poster's sanity.

He is bad enough without the hyperbole. He is a self-centered, self-focused, narcissist con man. No need to exaggerate.

We also don't need to treat Trump (we already went through this once) as an existential risk creating hyperventilating anxiety for fear of our democracy when folks like you at the same time star fake liberal posters who want to bring down own checks and balances for expediency sake.

Before Trump, they told us GW Bush was a Nazi/dictator. And before that, Romney and McCain and HW Bush I. Every republican candidate is the bogeyman. It is such contrived and obvious political propaganda, but people on the left and in the press (I repeat myself) lap it up.

The irony in all of this is that Biden, in his own way, has been equally (and arguably far more) authoritarian and undemocratic than Trump ever was. Obviously unlawful edicts (student loan forgiveness, OSHA vaccine orders), failure to enforce immigration laws, attempts to censor via pressure on private companies, and establishment of a "Truth Ministry" (aka disinformation board led by far left partisans) are only some of the examples. 65% of Dems are in favor of government censorship of online platforms, but Trump is the threat.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/18/more-americans-now-say-government-should-take-steps-to-restrict-false-information-online-than-in-2018/

And since certain people here will always argue in bad faith, my point is not a defense of Trump. The point is that dems don't really worry about authoritarianism. They just want their team to be the dictators.




Great post, BG. When identity and self-worth are tied not to what one contributes in real life but to hating Trump and faking belief in nonsense political talking points that are nowhere reflected in how they live other than in posts in a football forum, actual logic and substance cannot stand.
calbear93
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dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff


In. Value add. You got this. We are in good hands. No wonder you think Biden is the best president in your generation, our economy is booming and that we would believe you have an MBA. Out. You aren't stupid at all.



In. Vvvvvvvv


Imagine the obsession and dedication required to be up at 3:30 am to post this. And extrapolate the life one leads to be that obsessed.
concordtom
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calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Trump will end democracy as we know it.
Full stop.


Never said Trump was the better choice. Would never vote for him.

But not excited about our democracy that provides us with Trump and Biden as the only two choices.

And Trump will not end democracy. If all it took was a moron and narcissist to end democracy, we would not have survived the Harding administration.

Hyperbole and inability to think calmly will not make you any more persuasive.

We need people like you to vote for Biden if it's Biden vs Trump in order to stop the worse option. Better yet, knock him out in the primary!

Did Hitler end Germany?
I'd argue yes.
You could call that hyperbole, and it would be hyperbole in about 1933, too.
Sometimes you have to extract what you can from the past, and drawing that hyperbolic line helps inform. Otherwise, you're just rationalizing to soothe yourself. An earthquake in SF isn't coming. Neither are rising sea levels. And America will survive Trump. Survive? Perhaps. But forever dramatically altered. Put a stop to it before it happens, I say!

At any rate, thank you for saying you'd never vote for trump. That soothes me ever time I read that from someone. I just need more assurances that that threat is over. Jail, perhaps? That'd be a nice way to wrap it up!

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bearister said:

Now write an essay on tRump's surrounding cast in 2016 and probable cast in 2024 and sell it over Biden's team.










Donald is 77.
His mother was 88.
His father was 93.
He's certifiably crazy but not senile, so this isn't going away anytime soon. Unless good people actively engage to end it. Jack Smith and Fani Willis are doing their part. Everyone needs to engage in every way imaginable. (And if I were Trump I would say something irresponsible like "the second amendment folks might have something to say about it, too." But that's just spice to make my point.)
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OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Trump will end democracy as we know it.
Full stop.


And Trump will not end democracy. If all it took was a moron and narcissist to end democracy, we would not have survived the Harding administration.

Hyperbole and inability to think calmly will not make you any more persuasive.
Inability to understand how complete Trump's takeover of the Republican party has been, and how long it took to methodically implement that takeover will not make you more persuasive.

Trump does not support "democracy" unless it results with him in power, and a lot of planning has already been done to vastly expand his presidential authority should he win again.

Making sure Trump never resumes authority is essential to maintaining democracy as we know it.


I like this guy, Oso Dorado. He gets it, exactly!!

Que te vaya bien, amigo!
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Votes is all we ask for.
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff


In. Value add. You got this. We are in good hands. No wonder you think Biden is the best president in your generation, our economy is booming and that we would believe you have an MBA. Out. You aren't stupid at all.



In. Vvvvvvvv


Imagine the obsession and dedication required to be up at 3:30 am to post this. And extrapolate the life one leads to be that obsessed.
New day. We'll start again. Try to relax. Breathe in. Vvvvvvvvv
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Haha. No, that was good, Good Spice!
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calbear93 said:

BearGoggles said:

calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Trump will end democracy as we know it.
Full stop.


And Trump will not end democracy. If all it took was a moron and narcissist to end democracy, we would not have survived the Harding administration.

Hyperbole and inability to think calmly will not make you any more persuasive.
Inability to understand how complete Trump's takeover of the Republican party has been, and how long it took to methodically implement that takeover will not make you more persuasive.

Trump does not support "democracy" unless it results with him in power, and a lot of planning has already been done to vastly expand his presidential authority should he win again.

Making sure Trump never resumes authority is essential to maintaining democracy as we know it.
Our democracy survived a civil war, corruption, almost a dictator in FDR, assassination of president, criminal conduct and resignation by Nixon, and January 6 attack. If it is dependent on one man's commitment to democracy, we would not have survived.

There will always be another Trump. There are already Trump mini-me's. What matters is our system of government (which many here want to also tear down for expediency) and the people's tolerance for dictators.

And yes, posting pictures of Trump as a Nazi, devil, etc. is not persuading anyone other than making others question the poster's sanity.

He is bad enough without the hyperbole. He is a self-centered, self-focused, narcissist con man. No need to exaggerate.

We also don't need to treat Trump (we already went through this once) as an existential risk creating hyperventilating anxiety for fear of our democracy when folks like you at the same time star fake liberal posters who want to bring down own checks and balances for expediency sake.

Before Trump, they told us GW Bush was a Nazi/dictator. And before that, Romney and McCain and HW Bush I. Every republican candidate is the bogeyman. It is such contrived and obvious political propaganda, but people on the left and in the press (I repeat myself) lap it up.

The irony in all of this is that Biden, in his own way, has been equally (and arguably far more) authoritarian and undemocratic than Trump ever was. Obviously unlawful edicts (student loan forgiveness, OSHA vaccine orders), failure to enforce immigration laws, attempts to censor via pressure on private companies, and establishment of a "Truth Ministry" (aka disinformation board led by far left partisans) are only some of the examples. 65% of Dems are in favor of government censorship of online platforms, but Trump is the threat.

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/08/18/more-americans-now-say-government-should-take-steps-to-restrict-false-information-online-than-in-2018/

And since certain people here will always argue in bad faith, my point is not a defense of Trump. The point is that dems don't really worry about authoritarianism. They just want their team to be the dictators.




Great post, BG. When identity and self-worth are tied not to what one contributes in real life but to hating Trump and faking belief in nonsense political talking points that are nowhere reflected in how they live other than in posts in a football forum, actual logic and substance cannot stand.

It was a TERRIBLE post!
So terrible, I'm not even responding.
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concordtom said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Trump will end democracy as we know it.
Full stop.


And Trump will not end democracy. If all it took was a moron and narcissist to end democracy, we would not have survived the Harding administration.

Hyperbole and inability to think calmly will not make you any more persuasive.
Inability to understand how complete Trump's takeover of the Republican party has been, and how long it took to methodically implement that takeover will not make you more persuasive.

Trump does not support "democracy" unless it results with him in power, and a lot of planning has already been done to vastly expand his presidential authority should he win again.

Making sure Trump never resumes authority is essential to maintaining democracy as we know it.


I like this guy, Oso Dorado. He gets it, exactly!!

Que te vaya bien, amigo!
Whatever made you think I could speak Spanish?

Claro que si!

Edit: for some reason, I can't put the accent over the "i". Que te vaya bien tambien!

Edit 2: No accents are accepted (even over the "e"), nor upside-down exclamation marks. Anyway, in English, Thanks!
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Yea, I've run into problems with many attempted "beyond-QWERTY" entries before.
Like the upside down exclamation point, for example!
OsoDorado
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concordtom said:

Yea, I've run into problems with many attempted "beyond-QWERTY" entries before.
Like the upside down exclamation point, for example!
True.

Way OT: We're talking about and dissecting "Biden's team of professionals" vs. "Trump's team of Jared and Ivanka", and while I'll wait until the election is over before really celebrating Trump's demise, I truly believe to a great degree it's inevitable.

Question: What will Trump and his MAGA fanatics do when the returns come in, and the result is that he's been rejected by the American people yet again? I have a feeling he won't go gracefully ....

Whatever happens after his loss, the great news is he will politically be done.

Then, we can all look forward with clarity to seeing him pay for his crimes, if not behind bars then at least under "house arrest" for the rest of his life ....
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dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff


In. Value add. You got this. We are in good hands. No wonder you think Biden is the best president in your generation, our economy is booming and that we would believe you have an MBA. Out. You aren't stupid at all.



In. Vvvvvvvv


Imagine the obsession and dedication required to be up at 3:30 am to post this. And extrapolate the life one leads to be that obsessed.
New day. We'll start again. Try to relax. Breathe in. Vvvvvvvvv


I get it. You are on the breakfast shift. Thanks for your service. Starbucks coffee does not happen by itself. It takes dedicated staff like you to wake up at 3:30 am to repeat that clever post on BI for the 8th time before going to work rejuvenated at how clever he is in his own mind.
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OsoDorado said:

concordtom said:

Yea, I've run into problems with many attempted "beyond-QWERTY" entries before.
Like the upside down exclamation point, for example!
True.

Way OT: We're talking about and dissecting "Biden's team of professionals" vs. "Trump's team of Jared and Ivanka", and while I'll wait until the election is over before really celebrating Trump's demise, I truly believe to a great degree it's inevitable.

Question: What will Trump and his MAGA fanatics do when the returns come in, and the result is that he's been rejected by the American people yet again? I have a feeling he won't go gracefully ....

Whatever happens after his loss, the great news is he will politically be done.

Then, we can all look forward with clarity to seeing him pay for his crimes, if not behind bars then at least under "house arrest" for the rest of his life ....


If your point is that Biden at least is not Trump, then I agree.

Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

But if your argument is that, Biden may be a puppet, but he has an amazing team, then no. I strongly disagree. If your argument is that at least Biden's cabinet is not as bad as Trump's staff, then no argument. But don't expect us to get excited about voting for someone crappy with crappy staff because they are not as bad as the worst.
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calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?
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calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

calbear93 said:

dajo9 said:

The hundreds of thousands who died in the Civil War protecting the Union will be glad to know the preservation of America's democracy was a fait accompli and not an act of great dedication and commitment from those carrying the torch at the time.
You seem like a very likable, genuine and authentic person.

Since the extent of my reference was that our democracy survived a civil war without any mention of absence or superfluousness of the sacrifice to win the war, you may be a confederate and may believe that our democracy did not in fact survive the civil war. May explain why you are so intent on getting rid of our current checks and balances because you are still pouting about losing a few elections.

What an amazingly caring (you seem to really care deeply about those soldiers) and value-add person you are.

You must be a C-suite type of leader because your level of authenticity is inspiring.


I know it's your m.o. to immediately resort to angry personal attacks but you really shouldn't get so worked up. You relax. We'll safeguard American democracy for your children.


Only in your mind do we have the kind of relationship where we know each other well enough for you to presume to know me that way I don't know you. I only know your persona here reflected in your lame posts. Not once have I read a single post of yours and thought any real person believed any bs you pretend to believe.

Me angry with you? Why would I be angry? What impact do you have in anything meaningful in my life for me to be angry with you? Not at all. Having actual experience in things you pretend to know, I actually know the opinions you express reflect true ignorance. Anyone who has any real knowledge know what a bs artist you are. That engenders more humor than anger. Because you cannot actually debate on real knowledge, you do resort to twisting words and deflecting. If calling you out for those low character attributes in your posts is viewed by you as me being angry, you must get angry responses all the time. You are too insignificant to engender any anger. Just mockery.




Relax. We'll take care of it.


Yeah, you post away on BI to a better world. What a hero.


Attaboy. Breathe.



With that type of value add posts, I see that we are truly in good hands with the hero of BI. Your family must be so proud. When people tell you that you are a waste of space, you can point to your world changing posts like that as proof of your impact. You are not delusional at all.



In. . . Then out. Breathe.



In and out. Suspect something that never happens in your bedroom with you present. Sorry - that was too easy but out of bounds.




Inhale. . . Vvvvvvvvvv


This is the type of quality conversation we can expect with you. Yoga instructor seems appropriate for your level of expertise, Mr MBA (MBA - yeah right).


Out. Pffffffff


In. Value add. You got this. We are in good hands. No wonder you think Biden is the best president in your generation, our economy is booming and that we would believe you have an MBA. Out. You aren't stupid at all.



In. Vvvvvvvv


Imagine the obsession and dedication required to be up at 3:30 am to post this. And extrapolate the life one leads to be that obsessed.
New day. We'll start again. Try to relax. Breathe in. Vvvvvvvvv


I get it. You are on the breakfast shift. Thanks for your service. Starbucks coffee does not happen by itself. It takes dedicated staff like you to wake up at 3:30 am to repeat that clever post on BI for the 8th time before going to work rejuvenated at how clever he is in his own mind.


Pffffffffff
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OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?
Answer: That he was not a republican!
calbear93
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OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?


What record? And when the market was booming and economy was improving with low inflation before COVID, the response here was that the White House had little control and therefore Trump does not get credit. If you asked most people if their quality of life was better four years ago before COVID , most would say yes.
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calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?


What record? And when the market was booming and economy was improving with low inflation before COVID, the response here was that the White House had little control and therefore Trump does not get credit. If you asked most people if their quality of life was better four years ago before COVID , most would say yes.


My response to the Trump economy (and most other responses here) was that it was a continuation of what he inherited from Obama. Virtually every metric was a continuation of the trend of the strong 2nd term Obama economy with the one exception being the deficit which immediately got worse when the self proclaimed King of Debt became President.

Obviously for intelligent people there is a lot of nuance to discuss regarding what impacts a President has on the economy. But when you are dealing with morons like movielover and bearhunter, sometimes nuance is a waste of time. Treating BI like we are prepping academic theses here is silly.

On your last point about polling for "soft" data in general - I wouldn't put much weight on it. Most responses these days are just politics.

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OsoDorado said:

concordtom said:

Yea, I've run into problems with many attempted "beyond-QWERTY" entries before.
Like the upside down exclamation point, for example!
True.

Way OT: We're talking about and dissecting "Biden's team of professionals" vs. "Trump's team of Jared and Ivanka", and while I'll wait until the election is over before really celebrating Trump's demise, I truly believe to a great degree it's inevitable.

Question: What will Trump and his MAGA fanatics do when the returns come in, and the result is that he's been rejected by the American people yet again? I have a feeling he won't go gracefully ....

Whatever happens after his loss, the great news is he will politically be done.

Then, we can all look forward with clarity to seeing him pay for his crimes, if not behind bars then at least under "house arrest" for the rest of his life ....


I admit I'm slightly terrified that Trump will win. Because after everything we've seen, the polls are TIED???? Too many idiots. Too many partisans.

As for trump and jail, he'll flee the USA before he ever sits a day in the brig.
Then the fun will really begin. Laughingstock!!
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calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

concordtom said:

Yea, I've run into problems with many attempted "beyond-QWERTY" entries before.
Like the upside down exclamation point, for example!
True.

Way OT: We're talking about and dissecting "Biden's team of professionals" vs. "Trump's team of Jared and Ivanka", and while I'll wait until the election is over before really celebrating Trump's demise, I truly believe to a great degree it's inevitable.

Question: What will Trump and his MAGA fanatics do when the returns come in, and the result is that he's been rejected by the American people yet again? I have a feeling he won't go gracefully ....

Whatever happens after his loss, the great news is he will politically be done.

Then, we can all look forward with clarity to seeing him pay for his crimes, if not behind bars then at least under "house arrest" for the rest of his life ....


If your point is that Biden at least is not Trump, then I agree.

Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

But if your argument is that, Biden may be a puppet, but he has an amazing team, then no. I strongly disagree. If your argument is that at least Biden's cabinet is not as bad as Trump's staff, then no argument. But don't expect us to get excited about voting for someone crappy with crappy staff because they are not as bad as the worst.
nobody would be asking for you to get excited.
We are asking you to vote, against trump.
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"John Nish, an engineering manager from Truro, Iowa, said he is wrestling with his 2024 choice. He may back DeSantis on caucus day if he thinks attacks on Trump have rendered him unelectable. But the more Trump comes under fire, he said, the more energized he is about Trump.

"The closer a person is to God, and the more that they're trying to do to fulfill God's plans, and do the right thing, the more Satan attacks him," Nish said of Trump."*
-Washington Post

*The American Republic will die of natural causes pursuant to the doctrine of Social Darwinism.
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Send my credentials to the House of Detention
I got some friends inside
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OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?


What record? And when the market was booming and economy was improving with low inflation before COVID, the response here was that the White House had little control and therefore Trump does not get credit. If you asked most people if their quality of life was better four years ago before COVID , most would say yes.
Fact check: "the market" reached an all-time high under Trump "after COVID", i.e., after the initial collapse in March 2020 -- and continued rising under Biden.

This platitude about only mentioning Trump's record "pre-COVID" is supposed to make it look better than the entire 4 years, but the fact is that Biden and his team created more new jobs in his first 2 years than Trump and his team of amateurs did "Pre-COVID".

When I speak about "Biden's record so far," I'm referring mainly to his legislative record during his first two years when Democrats controlled the House, but also to the sanity and stability his administration has brought to foreign policy.

You didn't detail your complaints about Biden's record, instead choosing to dismiss it as non-existent ("What record?"). Rather than list his accomplishments myself, here's a link to the White House's account:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

Once again, please cite your specific complaints with the record, and then tell me why you won't vote for Biden (and his team) over Trump ....
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bearister said:

"John Nish, an engineering manager from Truro, Iowa, said he is wrestling with his 2024 choice. He may back DeSantis on caucus day if he thinks attacks on Trump have rendered him unelectable. But the more Trump comes under fire, he said, the more energized he is about Trump.

"The closer a person is to God, and the more that they're trying to do to fulfill God's plans, and do the right thing, the more Satan attacks him," Nish said of Trump."*
-Washington Post

*The American Republic will die of natural causes pursuant to the doctrine of Social Darwinism.

I venture to guess (without poll numbers to hand) that most Trump voters (many of whom are White Christian Nationalists) believe he is the candidate "closest to God".

Therefore, none of Trump's 91 criminal indictments or convictions of sexual harassment or fraud can possibly be true, any more than if the allegations were made against Jesus Christ himself.
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OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?


What record? And when the market was booming and economy was improving with low inflation before COVID, the response here was that the White House had little control and therefore Trump does not get credit. If you asked most people if their quality of life was better four years ago before COVID , most would say yes.
Fact check: "the market" reached an all-time high under Trump "after COVID", i.e., after the initial collapse in March 2020 -- and continued rising under Biden.

This platitude about only mentioning Trump's record "pre-COVID" is supposed to make it look better than the entire 4 years, but the fact is that Biden and his team created more new jobs in his first 2 years than Trump and his team of amateurs did "Pre-COVID".

When I speak about "Biden's record so far," I'm referring mainly to his legislative record during his first two years when Democrats controlled the House, but also to the sanity and stability his administration has brought to foreign policy.

You didn't detail your complaints about Biden's record, instead choosing to dismiss it as non-existent ("What record?"). Rather than list his accomplishments myself, here's a link to the White House's account:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

Once again, please cite your specific complaints with the record, and then tell me why you won't vote for Biden (and his team) over Trump ....


Do you really believe this nonsense?

The first thing on that page. Lowering cost every day for Americans with reference to the Inflation Reduction Act. After years of going against all common sense and geniuses here claiming that deficit spending and printing money do not create inflation because the demand for our debt, we had the highest rate of inflation in two decades. Sure - let's do more deficit spending in the midst of a supply chain and labor constraint while our Secretary of Transportation goes on paternity leave. What could go wrong?

And the job market created low paying jobs. Most companies restructured and eliminated meaningful percentage of high paying white collar and middle management. CFO confidence rate is slightly down or flat. Didn't most of gains come from leisure and hospitality? Where have bookings and PMI been the last two years? Backlog? What are the household debt trends? Didn't debt spike the last few years going over $17 trillion for US households with rising interest rate? Just out of curiosity, what do you do? Most folks I talk to are seeing indications of a slightly tough economic situations, from CFOs and sell-side analysts, expecting tougher economic conditions in 2024.

And bragging about opening schools? How shameless. Who promoted keeping schools closed as long as they did? Who continues to support the teachers union who wanted to shut down even longer? Yes, let's take this White House's account for their accomplishment as gospel.

And stability in foreign affairs. Great. Nothing to see here in Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel. No deterioration of relations in Middle East, China, or South America. Deals with Iran to bring them more to our side. That worked well because they were always looking to be reasonable. All peachy. Thank goodness for the stability in foreign affairs brought by this administration. Geopolitical situations have never been better.

You must have nothing to worry about. With so much accomplishment and competence, all non-MAGA conservatives like me and all suburban college educated folks like us will flock to vote for Biden. You got the independent votes who will always decide elections. Just ignore earning release and 10-Ks and 10-Qs. Trust the White House page on their accomplishments.

You got this election in the bag.
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calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:

OsoDorado said:

calbear93 said:


Did you miss the point where I wrote that the only person worse than Biden was Trump on hiring staff and cabinet?

Results!

If your favorite Republican had Biden's record so far, what would your complaint be?


What record? And when the market was booming and economy was improving with low inflation before COVID, the response here was that the White House had little control and therefore Trump does not get credit. If you asked most people if their quality of life was better four years ago before COVID , most would say yes.
Fact check: "the market" reached an all-time high under Trump "after COVID", i.e., after the initial collapse in March 2020 -- and continued rising under Biden.

This platitude about only mentioning Trump's record "pre-COVID" is supposed to make it look better than the entire 4 years, but the fact is that Biden and his team created more new jobs in his first 2 years than Trump and his team of amateurs did "Pre-COVID".

When I speak about "Biden's record so far," I'm referring mainly to his legislative record during his first two years when Democrats controlled the House, but also to the sanity and stability his administration has brought to foreign policy.

You didn't detail your complaints about Biden's record, instead choosing to dismiss it as non-existent ("What record?"). Rather than list his accomplishments myself, here's a link to the White House's account:

https://www.whitehouse.gov/therecord/

Once again, please cite your specific complaints with the record, and then tell me why you won't vote for Biden (and his team) over Trump ....


Do you really believe this nonsense?

The first thing on that page. Lowering cost every day for Americans with reference to the Inflation Reduction Act. After years of going against all common sense and liberals like Dajo claiming that deficit spending and printing money does not create inflation because the demand for our debt, we had the highest rate of inflation in two decades. Sure - let's do more deficit spending in the midst of a supply chain and labor constraint while our Secretary of Transportation goes on paternity leave. What could go wrong?

And the job market created low paying jobs. Most companies restructured and eliminated meaningful percentage of high paying white collar and middle management. CFO confidence rate is slightly down or flat. Didn't most of gains come from leisure and hospitality? Where have bookings and PMI been the last two years? Backlog? What are the household debt trends? Didn't debt spike the last few years going over $17 trillion for US households with rising interest rate? Just out of curiosity, what do you do? Most folks I talk to are seeing indications of a slightly tough economic situations, from CFOs and sell-side analysts, expecting tougher economic conditions in 2024.

And bragging about opening schools? How shameless. Who promoted keeping schools closed as long as they did? Who continues to support the teachers union who wanted to shut down even longer? Yes, let's take this White House's account for their accomplishment as gospel.

And stability in foreign affairs. Great. Nothing to see here in Afghanistan, Ukraine, Israel. No deterioration of relations in Middle East, China, or South America. Deals with Iran to bring them more to our side. That worked well because they were always looking to be reasonable. All peachy. Thank goodness for the stability in foreign affairs brought by this administration. Geopolitical situations have never been better.

You must have nothing to worry about. With so much accomplishment and competence, all non-MAGA conservatives like me and all suburban college educated folks like us will flock to vote for Biden. You got the independent votes who will always decide elections. Just ignore earning release and 10-Ks and 10-Qs. Trust the White House page on their accomplishments.

You got this election in the bag.


I'm surprised to see you arguing deficits cause inflation after 40 of years of history in which deficits went up and inflation went down. Time to move past failed textbooks.

In 2021 you argued that supply shocks would cause inflation and now you are attributing that inflation to deficits. The supply side shutdown combined with Federal cash giveaways to average people triggered inflation (two sides of the same coin really). I was wrong in that I didn't think the cash giveaways in that environment would trigger inflation but it is wrong to have the takeaway from the experience that "deficits" in general cause inflation.

Undertaxing the rich is not going to cause consumer inflation (they will buy assets and drive down interest rates - simple supply and demand). Bloated defense contracts are not going to cause inflation in our diverse economy. Inefficient and expensive health care service costs are not going to cause widespread inflation. A supply side economy that pushes the middle class to the margins is not going to have an inflation problem.
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