For those who don't follow Trump's posts, here's one that came after he was fined for violating the Judge's gag order. Let's see how much more it takes to LOCK HIM UP !!! (please!) for at least 1 day ....:

"My daughter, Ivanka, was released from this Fake Letitia James case by the Court of Appeals, but this Trump Hating, Unhinged Judge, who ruled me guilty before this Witch Hunt Trial even started, couldn't care less about the fact that he was overturned. I also won on Appeal on Statute of Limitations, but he refuses to accept their decision. I truly believe he is CRAZY, but certainly, at a minimum, CRAZED in his hatred of me. This case should have never started, but now must be dismissed. Financial Statements were LOW, NOT HIGH, had a 100% Disclaimer Clause, Banks were fully paid, "on time, on schedule," with never even a minor default, there was NO VICTIM, EXCEPT ME. Any other Judge in the Country would have thrown this case out on day one. He's an out of control "Nut Job," who fined me $10,000 over a ridiculous Gag Order so that the publicity for the day would take over from the fact that Racist James and the Judge's Star Witness admitted LYING TO CONGRESS on the stand - CASE OVER!"

I've seen liberals complain that Judge Engoron is letting The Defendant get free publicity from letting him off with a minor fine. I have a feeling the Judge is being as patient as the circumstances (e.g., secret service protection) require, but that his patience is running thin.

We shall soon see ....

1. Imagine the face off between the secret service guys who are programmed to protect trump have a sudden face off with the court security staff who are programmed to follow judges orders - should Engoron suddenly decide fines isn't enough for Trump.

Have you seen Denzel Washington face off with Gene Hackman in Red October? "Give me the key!" "No, give ME the key!"



2. Imagine the riots by MAGA idiots should such a courtroom face-off occur.

I believe this is exactly what Trump is provoking.

Cue the Scooby Doo villain voice:

"And I would have gotten away with it too if it hadn't been for that pesky First Amendment."

A New York appellate judge lifted the gag order improperly imposed on Trump regarding his fraud case, on the ground it violates his free speech rights.

It's insane that liberal politicians/prosecutors can malign him, then try to bar him from responding:https://t.co/S2RebMPgXx

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 16, 2023

Continue with your kangaroo court though

Unit2Sucks said:

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Just to recap, you baselessly claimed that Deutsche Bank didn't rely at all on anything Trump told them. When I presented evidence showing publicly filed documents showing that DB did in fact clearly rely on Trump fraudulent statements, you yadda yadda yadda's and attacked some windmills.

You pretend not to support Trump but engage in breathless defenses which resolve every ambiguity in favor of Trump.

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This sentence is key. The inability to distinguish one's feelings about Trump with anything else is a hallmark of Trump Derangement System.

Trump is a bad person AND what's happening to him in numerous arenas is just wrong. That whole MLK, Jr "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" thing.

Try reversing basic facts then ask yourself how it looks. Imagine a conservative runs for the DA's office in a conservative district on an overt platform of getting Biden (or Obama or HRC). They win. They bring suit that is perhaps very technically meritorious but dubious in real life application. They get a conservative judge, who is an elected official (elected by very conservative populace which has indicated its desire to get Defendant by electing the DA). The judge makes an obviously ridiculous ruling (valuation of Maralago) and says out loud before proceedings really begin that the defendant is guilty. Judge's clerk belongs to assorted conservative groups, donates amounts of money that exceed the state's legally allowed amount - all to conservative causes - and the judge's response is not to deal with the clerk but instead to issue a gag order that is subsequently overturned on appeal. The entire premise of our legal system is that bad people who are hated get absolute equal treatment and fairness. Would you feel this was fair if the tables were turned?

Repeat in some manner or another with the special counsel and Georgia and the FBI and the DOJ and the impeachment proceedings. I know, I know…"But Trump…." That's not the point. The system is supposed to be blind.

Many people support Trump because they like him. Some of us see a rigged system and don't like that…while simultaneously not especially liking Trump. Those with TDS do not seem capable of making this same distinction. Their hatred of the man justifies everything done to and against him. The danger is that if the scales of Justice can be tipped in one direction today they can be tipped in the exact opposite direction in the future. That Trump is a (insert words) person is supposed to be irrelevant.

tequila4kapp said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Just to recap, you baselessly claimed that Deutsche Bank didn't rely at all on anything Trump told them. When I presented evidence showing publicly filed documents showing that DB did in fact clearly rely on Trump fraudulent statements, you yadda yadda yadda's and attacked some windmills.

You pretend not to support Trump but engage in breathless defenses which resolve every ambiguity in favor of Trump.

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This sentence is key. The inability to distinguish one's feelings about Trump with anything else is a hallmark of Trump Derangement System.

Trump is a bad person AND what's happening to him in numerous arenas is just wrong. That whole MLK, Jr "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" thing.

Try reversing basic facts then ask yourself how it looks. Imagine a conservative runs for the DA's office in a conservative district on an overt platform of getting Biden (or Obama or HRC). They win. They bring suit that is perhaps very technically meritorious but dubious in real life application. They get a conservative judge, who is an elected official (elected by very conservative populace which has indicated its desire to get Defendant by electing the DA). The judge makes an obviously ridiculous ruling (valuation of Maralago) and says out loud before proceedings really begin that the defendant is guilty. Judge's clerk belongs to assorted conservative groups, donates amounts of money that exceed the state's legally allowed amount - all to conservative causes - and the judge's response is not to deal with the clerk but instead to issue a gag order that is subsequently overturned on appeal. The entire premise of our legal system is that bad people who are hated get absolute equal treatment and fairness. Would you feel this was fair if the tables were turned?

Repeat in some manner or another with the special counsel and Georgia and the FBI and the DOJ and the impeachment proceedings. I know, I know…"But Trump…." That's not the point. The system is supposed to be blind.

Many people support Trump because they like him. Some of us see a rigged system and don't like that…while simultaneously not especially liking Trump. Those with TDS do not seem capable of making this same distinction. Their hatred of the man justifies everything done to and against him. The danger is that if the scales of Justice can be tipped in one direction today they can be tipped in the exact opposite direction in the future. That Trump is a (insert words) person is supposed to be irrelevant.

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This has all happened over and over again except it gets stopped when it hits the court because of merit. Whitewater and any number of other investigations against Clinton during his Presidency. The Obama gun stuff investigations. Benghazi. Her Emails. Joe Biden Ukraine corruption. As a Democrat, this has been our existence for 30 years.

The reason why things are progressing through the courts with Trump is because of merit. Evidence. Truth.

tequila4kapp said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Just to recap, you baselessly claimed that Deutsche Bank didn't rely at all on anything Trump told them. When I presented evidence showing publicly filed documents showing that DB did in fact clearly rely on Trump fraudulent statements, you yadda yadda yadda's and attacked some windmills.

You pretend not to support Trump but engage in breathless defenses which resolve every ambiguity in favor of Trump.

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This sentence is key. The inability to distinguish one's feelings about Trump with anything else is a hallmark of Trump Derangement System.

Trump is a bad person AND what's happening to him in numerous arenas is just wrong. That whole MLK, Jr "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" thing.

Try reversing basic facts then ask yourself how it looks. Imagine a conservative runs for the DA's office in a conservative district on an overt platform of getting Biden (or Obama or HRC). They win. They bring suit that is perhaps very technically meritorious but dubious in real life application. They get a conservative judge, who is an elected official (elected by very conservative populace which has indicated its desire to get Defendant by electing the DA). The judge makes an obviously ridiculous ruling (valuation of Maralago) and says out loud before proceedings really begin that the defendant is guilty. Judge's clerk belongs to assorted conservative groups, donates amounts of money that exceed the state's legally allowed amount - all to conservative causes - and the judge's response is not to deal with the clerk but instead to issue a gag order that is subsequently overturned on appeal. The entire premise of our legal system is that bad people who are hated get absolute equal treatment and fairness. Would you feel this was fair if the tables were turned?

Repeat in some manner or another with the special counsel and Georgia and the FBI and the DOJ and the impeachment proceedings. I know, I know…"But Trump…." That's not the point. The system is supposed to be blind.

Many people support Trump because they like him. Some of us see a rigged system and don't like that…while simultaneously not especially liking Trump. Those with TDS do not seem capable of making this same distinction. Their hatred of the man justifies everything done to and against him. The danger is that if the scales of Justice can be tipped in one direction today they can be tipped in the exact opposite direction in the future. That Trump is a (insert words) person is supposed to be irrelevant.

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I think you are smart enough to recognize how awful Trump is, but human enough to be fooled by your identity as a Republican despite your own eyes.

I think you are exactly what's wrong with the concept of democracy.

In a democracy, we believe people, on the whole, will making logical decisions in the voting booth.

History shows us that's wrong, however. For example, we had to have a horrible civil war to get people to stop treating other humans as animals. The South voted wrong. Just like you.

Trump is guilty of many wrongs. Huge wrongs! The courts are incredibly late and ineffective in reining him in. You're a fool for thinking otherwise.

You think this hinges on the valuation of Mar a Lago??? My god, you delude yourself.

concordtom said:

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I think you are smart enough to recognize how awful Trump is, but human enough to be fooled by your identity as a Republican despite your own eyes.

I think you are exactly what's wrong with the concept of democracy.

In a democracy, we believe people, on the whole, will making logical decisions in the voting booth.

History shows us that's wrong, however. For example, we had to have a horrible civil war to get people to stop treating other humans as animals. The South voted wrong. Just like you.

Trump is guilty of many wrongs. Huge wrongs! The courts are incredibly late and ineffective in reining him in. You're a fool for thinking otherwise.

You think this hinges on the valuation of Mar a Lago??? My god, you delude yourself.

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I 100% do not identify as a Republican, and for good reason: I proudly am not one.

No, in a Democracy we expect the largely uneducated and unsophisticated populace to make irrational decisions in the voting booth, but their overarching kindness, goodness, and sense of equity / fairness ultimately allows the system to self correct. The arc of justice ...

Right back at you on deluding yourself

tequila4kapp said:

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concordtom said:

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I think you are smart enough to recognize how awful Trump is, but human enough to be fooled by your identity as a Republican despite your own eyes.

I think you are exactly what's wrong with the concept of democracy.

In a democracy, we believe people, on the whole, will making logical decisions in the voting booth.

History shows us that's wrong, however. For example, we had to have a horrible civil war to get people to stop treating other humans as animals. The South voted wrong. Just like you.

Trump is guilty of many wrongs. Huge wrongs! The courts are incredibly late and ineffective in reining him in. You're a fool for thinking otherwise.

You think this hinges on the valuation of Mar a Lago??? My god, you delude yourself.

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I 100% do not identify as a Republican, and for good reason: I proudly am not one.

No, in a Democracy we expect the largely uneducated and unsophisticated populace to make irrational decisions in the voting booth, but their overarching kindness, goodness, and sense of equity / fairness ultimately allows the system to self correct. The arc of justice ...

Right back at you on deluding yourself

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Founding fathers gave vote to all because they knew that power corrupts those who will manipulate the system for their own personal benefit.

Oh, wait… never mind. Even they skewed the results to exclude everyone save land owning white men.

So… what are you saying???

Look, there's ONE reason to vote Biden - he's the only other choice to stop the madness of Trumpism.

tequila4kapp said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Just to recap, you baselessly claimed that Deutsche Bank didn't rely at all on anything Trump told them. When I presented evidence showing publicly filed documents showing that DB did in fact clearly rely on Trump fraudulent statements, you yadda yadda yadda's and attacked some windmills.

You pretend not to support Trump but engage in breathless defenses which resolve every ambiguity in favor of Trump.

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This sentence is key. The inability to distinguish one's feelings about Trump with anything else is a hallmark of Trump Derangement System.

Trump is a bad person AND what's happening to him in numerous arenas is just wrong. That whole MLK, Jr "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" thing.

Try reversing basic facts then ask yourself how it looks.

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There are so many points in your post which I consider to be inconsistent.

First, TDS is a term made up by Trump supporters to discredit any criticism of Trump. It's the equivalent of a loaded question.

You conclude "what's happening to him in numerous arenas is just wrong" but I'm not sure what you are basing it on. My criticism of BG was quite pointed - he claims not to defend Trump but every single time Trump is tagged with wrongdoing - whether a serious felony or otherwise, BG dashes to his defense. If Trump were accused with murder, BG would probably say that the Clintons have murdered lots of people and haven't gone to jail, etc.

When you say try reversing the basic facts, which facts do you want to reverse? If Biden had been credibly accused of withholding NDI for 18 months after their return was demanded by the FBI, I would want him to be treated exactly the way Trump has been, if not worse. To be honest, I think Trump was given way too much leeway in that situation and far more than anyone else would have gotten under similar circumstances. We could do this for all of the 91 felony counts if you would like.

If you are just saying we should ignore wrongdoing and reverse the facts that Trump is finally facing the consequences, that's not a reasonable request. The only way someone could conclude that Trump is being treated unfairly is if you think that he's innocent of wrongdoing. To this point, he's already lost more of these lawsuits - civil fraud, Trump org tax fraud, Trump foundation, 70's equal discrimination in housing, etc. than any other public figure, and yet people claiming not to be fans of his still rush to his defense.

By comparison, where are these people rushing to the defense of other people they aren't fans of? I don't see BG applying the same standards to the claims against the Bidens. It's not just a coincidence, the reason is quite obvious. I'm just calling it for what it is.

Sounds like Trump has FINALLY found a SOLUTION for his political enemies
https://www.threads.net/@mollyjongfast/post/Cz1DhLuuLYp/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

dajo9 said:

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Sounds like Trump has FINALLY found a SOLUTION for his political enemies
https://www.threads.net/@mollyjongfast/post/Cz1DhLuuLYp/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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After reading that, and being familiar with the core beliefs of a significant portion of tRump's base, I'm thinking the 2024 Election may not be the most opportune time for minority group voters to "drift away" from the Democratic Party.

bearister said:

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dajo9 said:

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Sounds like Trump has FINALLY found a SOLUTION for his political enemies
https://www.threads.net/@mollyjongfast/post/Cz1DhLuuLYp/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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After reading that, and being familiar with the core beliefs of a significant portion of tRump's base, I'm thinking the 2024 Election may not be the most opportune time for minority group voters to "drift away" from the Democratic Party.

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Lots of Hispanics are familiar with fascist regimes from their home country and are comfortable with them. Trump will get the pro fascist Hispanic vote.

dajo9 said:

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bearister said:

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dajo9 said:

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Sounds like Trump has FINALLY found a SOLUTION for his political enemies
https://www.threads.net/@mollyjongfast/post/Cz1DhLuuLYp/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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After reading that, and being familiar with the core beliefs of a significant portion of tRump's base, I'm thinking the 2024 Election may not be the most opportune time for minority group voters to "drift away" from the Democratic Party.

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Lots of Hispanics are familiar with fascist regimes from their home country and are comfortable with them. Trump will get the pro fascist Hispanic vote.

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I'm so sad for you that Hispanics won't vote for the upper middle class fake liberal agenda. Democracy is such a burden on the people who look down on the working class.

dajo9 said:

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Sounds like Trump has FINALLY found a SOLUTION for his political enemies
https://www.threads.net/@mollyjongfast/post/Cz1DhLuuLYp/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==

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What a horrible world it would be if we got rid of the warmongers, globalists, and fascists. I'm all for routing the fake news media too. Sounds like a good platform.

I might be up for a few more Communists and Marxists to replace the Democratic Party capitalists who have run our country into the ground though. I think it would be a fabulous idea if we redistributed more of your money so that the people who do the real work in this country can know the thrill of a last second steak dinner reservation.

dajo9 said:

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Lots of Hispanics are familiar with fascist regimes from their home country and are comfortable with them. Trump will get the pro fascist Hispanic vote.

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As I always say, religiosity is the training ground for authoritarianism. When you believe in a totalitarian sky daddy, you are more prone to also accept if not desire a strongman papa dictator or theocracy. It aligns neatly with the Strict Father Ethical model.

"God put me in this job," she told them. "There isn't gonna be a recall."
-Madame DA Pamela Price, Berkeley Scanner

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tequila4kapp said:

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Unit2Sucks said:

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Just to recap, you baselessly claimed that Deutsche Bank didn't rely at all on anything Trump told them. When I presented evidence showing publicly filed documents showing that DB did in fact clearly rely on Trump fraudulent statements, you yadda yadda yadda's and attacked some windmills.

You pretend not to support Trump but engage in breathless defenses which resolve every ambiguity in favor of Trump.

---

This sentence is key. The inability to distinguish one's feelings about Trump with anything else is a hallmark of Trump Derangement System.

Trump is a bad person AND what's happening to him in numerous arenas is just wrong. That whole MLK, Jr "Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere" thing.

Try reversing basic facts then ask yourself how it looks. Imagine a conservative runs for the DA's office in a conservative district on an overt platform of getting Biden (or Obama or HRC). They win. They bring suit that is perhaps very technically meritorious but dubious in real life application. They get a conservative judge, who is an elected official (elected by very conservative populace which has indicated its desire to get Defendant by electing the DA). The judge makes an obviously ridiculous ruling (valuation of Maralago) and says out loud before proceedings really begin that the defendant is guilty. Judge's clerk belongs to assorted conservative groups, donates amounts of money that exceed the state's legally allowed amount - all to conservative causes - and the judge's response is not to deal with the clerk but instead to issue a gag order that is subsequently overturned on appeal. The entire premise of our legal system is that bad people who are hated get absolute equal treatment and fairness. Would you feel this was fair if the tables were turned?

Repeat in some manner or another with the special counsel and Georgia and the FBI and the DOJ and the impeachment proceedings. I know, I know…"But Trump…." That's not the point. The system is supposed to be blind.

Many people support Trump because they like him. Some of us see a rigged system and don't like that…while simultaneously not especially liking Trump. Those with TDS do not seem capable of making this same distinction. Their hatred of the man justifies everything done to and against him. The danger is that if the scales of Justice can be tipped in one direction today they can be tipped in the exact opposite direction in the future. That Trump is a (insert words) person is supposed to be irrelevant.

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This has all happened over and over again except it gets stopped when it hits the court because of merit. Whitewater and any number of other investigations against Clinton during his Presidency. The Obama gun stuff investigations. Benghazi. Her Emails. Joe Biden Ukraine corruption. As a Democrat, this has been our existence for 30 years.

The reason why things are progressing through the courts with Trump is because of merit. Evidence. Truth.

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This is amazing:

As polls get worse for Biden, Democrats and their media allies at CNN are becoming explicit that their 2024 election strategy depends on imprisoning Trump before then.

CNN is saying Jack Smith's overarching goal is a conviction before the election: https://t.co/YSTV2M2QNI

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 16, 2023