Are News Articles worthless?

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LudwigsFountain
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I'm reading the Chronicle today and come across an article about extending the life of Diablo Canyon Power Plant. The article quotes an environmental group stating that it will cost $6 billion to run the plant the additional 5 years approved.

Gee, I think, that's a lot of money. So I Google it and run across numerous articles saying it will cost $10 billion, or $20 billion or $45 billion to keep it running and unlike the Chronicle article explicitly state that these costs will be borne by the ratepayers (who else?). Not clear if all these estimates are covering the same time period, because PG&E is also asking for a 20 year extension. Then I see there's a joint MIT/Stanford study saving it will SAVE the rate payers $21 billion. Also see something that says PGE puts the operating costs at around $1 billion/year. All of these show up on the first Google page.

Reporting on the environmental impact of keeping the plant open is one thing, but why is it so hard to nail down the financial impact? Seems pretty simple to me. The plant produces 9% of California's electricity, so that's going to have to be reproduced from other sources if Diablo Canyon is shut down. So, is the marginal cost of keeping it going higher or lower than the cost of replacing its output. The MIT/Stanford study seems to imply the replacement cost is higher. The environmental group quote seems to only be considering the ongoing operating costs, without any replacement cost.

Point is, to paraphrase a movie quote, I'm now less informed than I was before I read the article. This doesn't give me much faith in the current state of journalism.

bear2034
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The American propaganda machine is the best in the world, especially when they generate narratives that are consistent with one another.
concordtom
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I suppose as with statisticians (lies, damn lies, and statistics), accountants can also present numbers in a biased manner.
Though, here, I agree, just lazy/weak reporting!

But it's not the journalists I'm worried about - it's the readers! They will believe ANYTHING!!!

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Clearly, you are not the average reader.
Clearly, we don't have to worry about the likes of you!
bearister
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bear2034 said:

The American propaganda machine is the best in the world, especially when they generate narratives that are consistent with one another.


…..but your team's part of the propaganda machine is the only part writing checks for nearly $800,000,000 and getting hit with judgments for $150,000,000 because they are the ones that are actually lying while the others are presenting facts with a bias spin.
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concordtom
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The decency police demand that your homophobic posts be deleted.

We are sharp here in OT at times. This is just out of bounds, however.

Race
Gender
Sexual orientation
Etc.

Get a clue, hanky. Ludwig's posted a perfectly good topic and you come here and muddy things up with your slur?
Take off!
hanky1
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concordtom said:

The decency police demand that your homophobic posts be deleted.

We are sharp here in OT at times. This is just out of bounds, however.

Race
Gender
Sexual orientation
Etc.

Get a clue, hanky. Ludwig's posted a perfectly good topic and you come here and muddy things up with your slur?
Take off!


I find you and your post homophobic. There's nothing wrong w sharing an act of love but you are the one that objected to it. I think you should get help for your homophobia.
hanky1
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concordtom said:

The decency police demand that your homophobic posts be deleted.

We are sharp here in OT at times. This is just out of bounds, however.

Race
Gender
Sexual orientation
Etc.

Get a clue, hanky. Ludwig's posted a perfectly good topic and you come here and muddy things up with your slur?
Take off!


This you?


hanky1
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concordtom said:

The decency police….


Because you and your dogma and party sure know a lot about decency.

hanky1
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Authoritarians and homophobes like concordtom out in full force

concordtom
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Hey, don't start trolling me because I object to your posts which break the rules of BearInsider and which are uniform in society these days.

Leave me alone, Hanky.

https://bearinsider.com/forums/6/topics/118193/
bear2034
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It's interesting that Democrat lawmakers and Hill staffers have mostly been silent on the scandal and have not condemned the incident.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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bear2034 said:

It's interesting that Democrat lawmakers and Hill staffers have mostly been silent on the scandal and have not condemned the incident.
Aside from firing the guy?
hanky1
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bear2034 said:

It's interesting that Democrat lawmakers and Hill staffers have mostly been silent on the scandal and have not condemned the incident.


We all know why…

…but saying it is 'sexist, racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, homophobic.'

Did I miss anything?
concordtom
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hanky1 said:

bear2034 said:

It's interesting that Democrat lawmakers and Hill staffers have mostly been silent on the scandal and have not condemned the incident.


We all know why…

…but saying it is 'sexist, racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, homophobic.'

Did I miss anything?


Lemme ask, was it a crime?
bear2034
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hanky1 said:

bear2034 said:

It's interesting that Democrat lawmakers and Hill staffers have mostly been silent on the scandal and have not condemned the incident.


We all know why…

…but saying it is 'sexist, racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, homophobic.'

Did I miss anything?

The headline from NBC News is, "Senate staffer alleged by conservative outlets to have had sex in a hearing room is no longer employed.". Maybe we were all tricked into believing this actually happened

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-staffer-alleged-conservative-outlets-sex-hearing-room-rcna130095

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oski003
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bear2034 said:

hanky1 said:

bear2034 said:

It's interesting that Democrat lawmakers and Hill staffers have mostly been silent on the scandal and have not condemned the incident.


We all know why…

…but saying it is 'sexist, racist, misogynistic, anti-Semitic, homophobic.'

Did I miss anything?

The headline from NBC News is, "Senate staffer alleged by conservative outlets to have had sex in a hearing room is no longer employed.". Maybe we were all tricked into believing this actually happened

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/senate-staffer-alleged-conservative-outlets-sex-hearing-room-rcna130095

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[url=https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjgq-Hv9pmDAxWUJkQIHf-XBnAQvOMEKAB6BAgPEAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nbcnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fcongress%2Fsenate-staffer-alleged-conservative-outlets-sex-hearing-room-rcna130095&usg=AOvVaw0ZTvR3UDH5dPlT6KnODQ2W&opi=89978449][/url]


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Lets Go Brandon 22
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Ken Klippenstein with a glorious takedown of the press, including info on a story about Bezos donating $50M to a retired U.S. general and the list of the members of the Bohemian Grove getting killed to protect rich folk.


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