Jeffrey Epstein

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bear2034
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tequila4kapp said:

I'm happily not following this story closely. From afar the list looks to be a big ol' nothing burger.
Because Epstein was an FBI asset and that the FBI is hiding files?
Eastern Oregon Bear
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dajo9 said:

They live in a completely fabricated universe
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/C1sKCXrO4W0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I think it's priceless that Fox News is suggesting Stephen Hawking is a pedophile.
AunBear89
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I read somewhere that harvardlaw93 and hallmonitor003 are on the list.

And BearFarce. And Minot. Kelly couldn't get an invite, no matter how many times he begged.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
calbear93
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AunBear89 said:

I read somewhere that harvardlaw93 and hallmonitor003 are on the list.

And BearFarce. And Minot. Kelly couldn't get an invite, no matter how many times he begged.
This winner thinks getting a star for posts like these are indications that he matters and people like him.

That is so funny.

concordtom
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MinotStateBeav said:

Tough day for Dajo9
tough life for Minot.

I'll hang out with Dajo anytime!!
concordtom
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dajo9 said:

concordtom said:

dajo9 said:

Trump: "I want you to be the mother of my baby" to underage Johanna Sjoberg
https://www.threads.net/@thedailybeast/post/C1qdHPcN6R9/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==


You mis-attributed the accusation.
It is more properly attributed to Epstein himself, not Trump.

One of Jeffrey Epstein's alleged victims, Johanna Sjoberg, said during a deposition released Wednesday that the disgraced financier propositioned her multiple times to have a baby with him. "Basically [he] just said, I want you to be the mother of my baby," Sjoberg said. "I don't believe that I said flat-out no. I didn't agree to it. I would just say, Oh, yeah, really?" Sjoberg, now a hair stylist living in Florida, famously alleged in a 2016 deposition that Prince Andrew groped her breast with a puppet of himself.

You are right about that comment. The comment Sjoberg heard about Trump was Epstein saying he was going to call him up to go to one of his casinos.

The point is - the cognitive dissonance on the right who are playing this game of blindness to all the Trump / Epstein interactions over the years and hyperventilating the same Clinton stuff we have known about for years. Trump is running for President.


The point is, MAGAts are disgusting!!!!
concordtom
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tequila4kapp said:

I'm happily not following this story closely. From afar the list looks to be a big ol' nothing burger.


That shows how horrible everything else is, because it's entirely scandalous to think that grown men are flying off to an island to have sex with young (minor) women.

Every single one who actually engaged in such behavior is morally corrupt and should be treated accordingly!

Sex scandals cross party lines, obviously.

The problem is we don't know who did what.
calbear93
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concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

I'm happily not following this story closely. From afar the list looks to be a big ol' nothing burger.


That shows how horrible everything else is, because it's entirely scandalous to think that grown men are flying off to an island to have sex with young (minor) women.

Every single one who actually engaged in such behavior is morally corrupt and should be treated accordingly!

Sex scandals cross party lines, obviously.

The problem is we don't know who did what.

WE may not agree often, but we agree 100% here. Tribalism even with this shows how much politics have lost its moral center.
AunBear89
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This loser thinks "both siding" an issue puts him on the moral high ground.

Completely incapable of self reflection. A fine example of an American Conservative Christian - preachy and hypocritical to the bitter end.

Cue childish insults in 3 2 …
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
calbear93
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AunBear89 said:

This loser thinks "both siding" an issue puts him on the moral high ground.

Completely incapable of self reflection. A fine example of an American Conservative Christian - preachy and hypocritical to the bitter end.

Cue childish insults in 3 2 …
Hey winner, I could be standing in a pit, and I would be on the moral high ground relative to you.

I probably lost you there. Cue slight intimation of understanding by the star winner in 9,000 hrs.
AunBear89
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Claiming the moral high ground for oneself: very modern Christian of you.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
calbear93
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AunBear89 said:

Claiming the moral high ground for oneself: very modern Christian of you.
It is, isn't it?

Cue intimation of understanding by the star winner in 10,000 years.
AunBear89
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Wasn't a compliment, moron.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
bear2034
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dajo9 said:

They live in a completely fabricated universe
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/C1sKCXrO4W0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I think it's priceless that Fox News is suggesting Stephen Hawking is a pedophile.
Is Hawking able to get out of his wheelchair?
concordtom
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calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

tequila4kapp said:

I'm happily not following this story closely. From afar the list looks to be a big ol' nothing burger.


That shows how horrible everything else is, because it's entirely scandalous to think that grown men are flying off to an island to have sex with young (minor) women.

Every single one who actually engaged in such behavior is morally corrupt and should be treated accordingly!

Sex scandals cross party lines, obviously.

The problem is we don't know who did what.

WE may not agree often, but we agree 100% here. Tribalism even with this shows how much politics have lost its moral center.


Peace

calbear93
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AunBear89 said:

Wasn't a compliment, moron.
I guess 10,000 years have not passed, and it is still over this star winner's head.

You're too unintentionally funny in a special way.
AunBear89
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You really are a total waste of a human life. You add nothing to a conversation but arrogance , judgement, insults, and intolerance. You are completely lacking in self awareness, often accusing others here of the very things you do in every post.

I hope you are a different person around the people you love (assuming you aren't a total loser and have at least a couple of almost total losers like yourself to call friends). Because around here, just about everyone would like to kick you in the face.

Have a Happy New Year, harvardlaw93. I hope whatever it is that makes you sad angry little punk gets better in 2024.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
calbear93
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AunBear89 said:

You really are a total waste of a human life. You add nothing to a conversation but arrogance , judgement, insults, and intolerance. You are completely lacking in self awareness, often accusing others here of the very things you do in every post.

I hope you are a different person around the people you love (assuming you aren't a total loser and have at least a couple of almost total losers like yourself to call friends). Because around here, just about everyone would like to kick you in the face.

Have a Happy New Year, harvardlaw93. I hope whatever it is that makes you sad angry little punk gets better in 2024.
Ah, that's touching. Thank you.

You seem fulfilled and well loved, clearly by the number of stars you have here.

Cue potential understanding of the true meaning by the star winner in 6 minutes.
concordtom
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AunBear89 said:

This loser thinks "both siding" an issue puts him on the moral high ground.

Completely incapable of self reflection. A fine example of an American Conservative Christian - preachy and hypocritical to the bitter end.

Cue childish insults in 3 2 …


I've got no problems slinging arrows at folks caught up in disrespectful kinky sex scandals!

Bill Gates… I totally respect him for many things. But what the hell was he doing cheating on his wife? And there are weird stories about how he had a long time mistress. I got no respect for that. Here he is with Epstein.

I've known lots of adults (including 3 or 4 parents, various siblings) to have had affairs. I get it. It's human nature to have sex and be seduced.
To fly off to an island to meet with strangers??? You're sick in the head! Or rather, morally corrupt.

Surely this is part of my conservative Christian upbringing that folks here like to laugh at.



I think we ALL can join in shaming those involved, and we should at the same time acknowledge that just because someone had a photo with Epstein or visited his island or flew on the plane - that doesn't mean they engaged in unscrupulous sex.

In the case of Trump - we know he's a scumbag who absolutely would pork meat set before him.

Clinton, less of a sexual scumbag, but he's got enough of a known history to presume.

The important thing to note at this time with this news item is that Clinton is no longer in public office in any way. He's lucky to still be alive (heart). Gates is not a government official.

Trump, vying to be the President in 2025-9, should NOT be allowed near the WH, for this morally corrupt reason and Oh So Many More!!!
bear2034
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AunBear89 said:

Claiming the moral high ground for oneself: very modern Christian of you.
blungld said morality doesn't exist.
concordtom
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Chris Hayes had a good take tonight

It's amazing that Fox and the hard right are making Epstein a centerpiece of perceived immorality, and therefore a weapon to wield against the left when by far the number one political associate of Epstein was no less than Donald J Trump.

Further, Epstein died in prison while under the reign of Donald J Trump's appointed AG Bill Barr.



The right will take the color red and make it blue right before your eyes!
Or, vice versa, rather.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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bear2034 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dajo9 said:

They live in a completely fabricated universe
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/C1sKCXrO4W0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I think it's priceless that Fox News is suggesting Stephen Hawking is a pedophile.
Is Hawking able to get out of his wheelchair?
I don't think he can even get into his wheelchair these days.
calbear93
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dajo9 said:

They live in a completely fabricated universe
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/C1sKCXrO4W0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I think it's priceless that Fox News is suggesting Stephen Hawking is a pedophile.
Is Hawking able to get out of his wheelchair?
I don't think he can even get into his wheelchair these days.
Or the last six years.
bear2034
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dajo9 said:

They live in a completely fabricated universe
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/C1sKCXrO4W0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I think it's priceless that Fox News is suggesting Stephen Hawking is a pedophile.
Is Hawking able to get out of his wheelchair?
I don't think he can even get into his wheelchair these days.


who did this?
concordtom
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calbear93 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

bear2034 said:

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dajo9 said:

They live in a completely fabricated universe
https://www.threads.net/@keithedwards/post/C1sKCXrO4W0/?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ==
I think it's priceless that Fox News is suggesting Stephen Hawking is a pedophile.
Is Hawking able to get out of his wheelchair?
I don't think he can even get into his wheelchair these days.
Or the last six years.

Westminster Abbey no less!!!

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/188025042/stephen-hawking
Lets Go Brandon
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Bill Ackman has ties to Epstein through his plagiarist wife



Lets Go Brandon
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dajo9 said:

Bear2034 is so excited to vote for a guy known to have partied with Epstein he raised his hand 3 times

I just wanted to thank you for having a complete meltdown today because Clinton is all over the Epstein documents and this was all they had about Trump.



It was really satisfying to watch
dajo9
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This is the phase where the right tries to memory hole everything that isn't on this one list - even as they quote a video full of Traitor Trump and Epstein hanging out together. Same process as how they have convinced their cult followers that there was no Traitor Trump - Russia connection for the mere fact that no pee tape ever materialized. Cult followers do as their told.

That's the reason I posted Traitor Trump - Epstein material. Just as I will continue to post Traitor Trump - Russia material.
concordtom
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E. Jean Carroll, for 1.
Shall I go through the entire tally?
We already know what a sexual predator Trump is. He knows it, too. He even thinks it's funny. So does Ivanka. It's something to laugh at.





But maybe you have not been blessed with daughters so you are completely aloof!
Eastern Oregon Bear
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dajo9 said:

This is the phase where the right tries to memory hole everything that isn't on this one list - even as they quote a video full of Traitor Trump and Epstein hanging out together. Same process as how they have convinced their cult followers that there was no Traitor Trump - Russia connection for the mere fact that no pee tape ever materialized. Cult followers do as their told.

That's the reason I posted Traitor Trump - Epstein material. Just as I will continue to post Traitor Trump - Russia material.
They've convinced me. I'm never ever going to vote for Bill Clinton again.
calbear93
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

dajo9 said:

This is the phase where the right tries to memory hole everything that isn't on this one list - even as they quote a video full of Traitor Trump and Epstein hanging out together. Same process as how they have convinced their cult followers that there was no Traitor Trump - Russia connection for the mere fact that no pee tape ever materialized. Cult followers do as their told.

That's the reason I posted Traitor Trump - Epstein material. Just as I will continue to post Traitor Trump - Russia material.
They've convinced me. I'm never ever going to vote for Bill Clinton again.
I know you are trying to be clever, so I apologize in advance for trying to calibrate this. Since the world doesn't revolve solely around voting, would you apply the same level of judgment on all others involved? There are different level of involvement (e.g., a spectrum running from Dubin - a famous contributors to candidates and Andrew who were accused of actual acts with minors to Trump, Bill Clinton, Bill Gates, Bill Richardson, Al Gore, Dershowitz who had murky but social involvement, and some actors who were just named dropped), but those who fall in the same spectrum as Trump - will you treat them as pariah, including Bill Gates, Clinton, Gore and Dershowitz? I think I would, although I am not sure my view on Trump, Gore and Dershowitz could go any lower.
concordtom
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Excuse me, but are suggesting that AL GORE was off having sex with women on The Island????

I won't believe mere innuendo here!
calbear93
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concordtom said:

Excuse me, but are suggesting that AL GORE was off having sex with women on The Island????

I won't believe mere innuendo here!
I don't believe that is what I wrote. He is in the same bucket as Clinton, Trump, and Gates. None of the victims accused them specifically but they socialized with Epstein. Murky. Re-read what was actually written in my post and not what you think you read.
concordtom
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calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Excuse me, but are suggesting that AL GORE was off having sex with women on The Island????

I won't believe mere innuendo here!
I don't believe that is what I wrote. He is in the same bucket as Clinton, Trump, and Gates. None of the victims accused them specifically but they socialized with Epstein. Murky. Re-read what was actually written in my post and not what you think you read.


Well, I *think* that Clinton, Trump, and Gates have shown they probably were having sex.
But I would be surprised if Al Gore did.
Not to the degree of Stephen Hawking, but….

Then again, he and Tipper did divorce - what THAT all about?

Dude who married us said divorces typically come down to 2 things:
Money
Sex

I think the Gores had enough money.
calbear93
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concordtom said:

calbear93 said:

concordtom said:

Excuse me, but are suggesting that AL GORE was off having sex with women on The Island????

I won't believe mere innuendo here!
I don't believe that is what I wrote. He is in the same bucket as Clinton, Trump, and Gates. None of the victims accused them specifically but they socialized with Epstein. Murky. Re-read what was actually written in my post and not what you think you read.


Well, I *think* that Clinton, Trump, and Gates have shown they probably were having sex.
But I would be surprised if Al Gore did.
Not to the degree of Stephen Hawking, but….

Then again, he and Tipper did divorce - what THAT all about?

Dude who married us said divorces typically come down to 2 things:
Money
Sex

I think the Gores had enough money.
If you want to stand on principle, you probably should apply the same standard for everyone named.

You objected to innuendo for Gore. You don't know Gore just like you personally don't know Clinton or Trump. If we are going by the facts, each of Gore, Clinton and Trump has associated with Epstein but never accused by any of the victims. As such, if you just give Gore a pass because you like him but then condemn Trump and Clinton, then this becomes not about principle but about politics.

For me, I will roll my eyes next time any of these guys, including Gates, talks about what we should be doing for others.
 
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