I wish I understood would you two guys were talking about since my only chance on owning any type of Bitcoin is by buying MSTR. Vanguard has no immediate plans to allow any crypto ownership by its customers even though they just hired an ex Blackrock executive as their new CEO. But I can buy MSTR (just put in an order that I quickly cancelled). And I'm not moving money out of Vanguard just to own some Bitcoin. MSTR seems crazy but it does own a lot of Bitcoin. I'm sort of pissed that Vanguard brokerage prevents me from buying any crypto. That's a really ****ty business policy in this day and age.edwinbear said:The 0% yield on MSTR cnotes can't be explained by vol arbing alone. MSTR's IV (and by extension the value of the embedded call option) is DIRECTLY tied to its bitcoin holdings. Arbutrageurs may have VIEWED this as a vol play, but the pricing of both the cnotes and the options, ultimately, reflects mkt sentiment and demand for exposure to bitcoin's vol and upside potential.DiabloWags said:
You continue to fail to grasp why the notes were priced at ZERO percent given your inability to factor in the price of arbitraging this convertible with the stock options.
I repeat, this was a volatility play.
Ignoring bitcoin's role completely overlooks the fundamental driver of MSTR's volatility.
Is it time to go all in on Bitcoin?
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googled it, clueless, with longtime investments in stock index funds, not that this decades retired oldfort is a playa..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroStrategy
unrelated: imo in the next few decades global warming, the silent and deadly killla, is gonna take everything away from us; and much worse, from our kids # curse god and die [hard]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroStrategy
unrelated: imo in the next few decades global warming, the silent and deadly killla, is gonna take everything away from us; and much worse, from our kids # curse god and die [hard]
muting more than 300 handles, turnaround is fair play
Cal89 said:
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Next stop $111,111 🚀✨ #bitcoin100k
— Paris Hilton (@ParisHilton) December 5, 2024
Is this a top signal?
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkZFmgfCakXc&ved=2ahUKEwjQl8D2yZCKAxWDJzQIHRv9AUgQwqsBegQIBxAF&usg=AOvVaw3dRxf6PkuWT6LtYijdBPeL
Sorry if the address above isn't a workable link. I'm horrible at cutting and pasting internet links here.
With that said the above two hour debate, probably one of a thousand Bitcoin vs gold debates, contains a lot of decent information on properties of currencies, commodities, stores of value, taxation policies, inflation, etc. Many of you may already know a lot about these subjects and have opinions on the four debaters. For a novice like me I found it interesting. And I've only watched half. Like him or not I found Scaramucci's statements interesting. He said he didn't think Bitcoin would ever be the official currency in the world or maybe even in any country. But he thinks that with the number of people throughout the world that already use it it has the ability to grow in value because of its perceived value(real or imaginary) as a currency free from government intervention. I hope I've summarized his statements correctly. It's the reason he's investing in it not because he thinks it will be officially adopted. So yes... speculation. Ironically, one of Bitcoin's main assets, more can't be made so it can't be inflated away, seems to be at odds with its current wild price swings. I'm guessing its proponents are waiting for a day when it is so widely adopted that it becomes more stable in price. I myself have no experience with currency markets and don't know the history of investing in world currencies. Maybe these types of wild price swings have happened for decades and investors have traded them.
Sorry if the address above isn't a workable link. I'm horrible at cutting and pasting internet links here.
With that said the above two hour debate, probably one of a thousand Bitcoin vs gold debates, contains a lot of decent information on properties of currencies, commodities, stores of value, taxation policies, inflation, etc. Many of you may already know a lot about these subjects and have opinions on the four debaters. For a novice like me I found it interesting. And I've only watched half. Like him or not I found Scaramucci's statements interesting. He said he didn't think Bitcoin would ever be the official currency in the world or maybe even in any country. But he thinks that with the number of people throughout the world that already use it it has the ability to grow in value because of its perceived value(real or imaginary) as a currency free from government intervention. I hope I've summarized his statements correctly. It's the reason he's investing in it not because he thinks it will be officially adopted. So yes... speculation. Ironically, one of Bitcoin's main assets, more can't be made so it can't be inflated away, seems to be at odds with its current wild price swings. I'm guessing its proponents are waiting for a day when it is so widely adopted that it becomes more stable in price. I myself have no experience with currency markets and don't know the history of investing in world currencies. Maybe these types of wild price swings have happened for decades and investors have traded them.
Edited by Staff said:I really don’t see the problem here. You traded United States dollars for hawk tuah coin. She got yo ass fair and square https://t.co/tMLuYisxBS
— Jimmy McNulty (@TsarinaBomba) December 19, 2024
Yeah, if you lose your money from buying someone's token who only got famous by joking about spitting on we!ners, you kind of deserve it lol
Tell Wags, it's a good time to buy. lol.
BREAKING: 🇺🇸 President Trump signs executive order officially creating a #Bitcoin Strategic Reserve.
— Bitcoin Magazine (@BitcoinMagazine) March 7, 2025
pic.twitter.com/MiyTAbRkE2
It happened.
Promises made, promises kept.
" Trump's new cryptocurrency, $Trump, soared and then crashed exactly like a Ponzi scheme. It generated enormous profits for insiders and a cumulative $2bn in losses for more than 800,000 other investors.
Musk has been promoting Dogecoin since 2019. Its value surged over 70% in the days following Trump's announcement of the launch of Musk's so-called
"department of government efficiency" (Doge). Since then, it's dropped like a rock. A classic Ponzi scheme
On Friday, Trump is holding a "crypto summit" at which he'll promote the idea of a federal crypto reserve that will give crypto schemes a temporary boost by increasing demand for them.
But why should American taxpayers foot the bill for a crypto reserve? The most obvious winner will be Trump, whose own crypto venture carries millions of dollars in tokens that are to be included in the reserve. Other winners will be crypto executives, many of whom donated extensively to Trump's re-election effort."
-Robert Reich
*I think all you Trump supporters should invest your life's savings in crypto. Trump and Musk won't f@uck you over.
Musk has been promoting Dogecoin since 2019. Its value surged over 70% in the days following Trump's announcement of the launch of Musk's so-called
"department of government efficiency" (Doge). Since then, it's dropped like a rock. A classic Ponzi scheme
On Friday, Trump is holding a "crypto summit" at which he'll promote the idea of a federal crypto reserve that will give crypto schemes a temporary boost by increasing demand for them.
But why should American taxpayers foot the bill for a crypto reserve? The most obvious winner will be Trump, whose own crypto venture carries millions of dollars in tokens that are to be included in the reserve. Other winners will be crypto executives, many of whom donated extensively to Trump's re-election effort."
-Robert Reich
*I think all you Trump supporters should invest your life's savings in crypto. Trump and Musk won't f@uck you over.
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Global M2 vs BTC update
— Colin Talks Crypto 🪙 (@ColinTCrypto) May 30, 2025
After testing many different offsets between 70 and 100, I found the 87-day offset *currently* provides the best average correlation over all time frames.
This is now based on math instead of visual guesswork. You can see this "average" shown on the… https://t.co/gYuNQGxyJR pic.twitter.com/EEv7o8GQ0P
Guys, is it time to go all in on bitcoin? Let's get rich together.
(not financial advice)
bear2034 said:
Guys, is it time to go all in on bitcoin? Let's get rich together.
(not financial advice)
I think all you Trump supporters should invest your life's savings in crypto. Trump, Trump Lite, Eric and Musk won't f@uck you over.
*This is for sure financial advice.
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bearister said:I think all you Trump supporters should invest your life's savings in crypto. Trump, Trump Lite, Eric and Musk won't f@uck you over.bear2034 said:
Guys, is it time to go all in on bitcoin? Let's get rich together.
(not financial advice)
*This is for sure financial advice.
— Crypto Tea (@CryptoTea_) May 30, 2025
Looks like an ouch in the pouch!
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I maintain my position that one day crypto is going to threaten the US dollar and will hence be ruled not legal tender. Outlawed.
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