…..may backfire on tRump worse than showing up for the debate backfired on Biden?

Now the reasons for keeping tRump out of the Oval seem to have been turbocharged.*

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden or any other Democrat, and they might get the majority to go along.

*I guess tRump's plans to exact revenge on Biden just went up in smoke with that decision…. although perhaps this SCOTUS would carve out a "Biden Exception" to it's immunity decision.

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*I guess tRump's plans to exact revenge on Biden just went up in smoke with that decision.

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Assuming we still have a Supreme Court if Trump gets reelected all of his actions are core functions and/or official acts, but none of Bidens are. That's why they left those issues open.

Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

Good point. I hope to God the American people wake up and get out and vote.

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden

If this happens then Biden should conduct a few official "core constitutional" acts.

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Good point. I hope to God the American people wake up and get out and vote.

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden

If this happens then Biden should conduct a few official "core constitutional" acts.

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tequila4kapp said:

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Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

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Would be nice if we could have a conversation about Trump's unfitness for office without you guys reverting to Biden whataboutism.

A Few 'Official' Acts Biden Could Hypothetically Take Now That Presidents Have Criminal Immunity

https://www.jezebel.com/a-list-of-things-biden-could-hypothetically-do-now-that-presidents-have-criminal-immunity

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Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

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Would be nice if we could have a conversation about Trump's unfitness for office without you guys reverting to Biden whataboutism.

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Biden's F graded debate last Thursday, where Trump cleaned his clock, is still the top news story, along with the recent Supreme Court decisions. Discussing Trump's unfitness for office right now is actually Trump whataboutism, unless you are having your regularly scheduled circle jerk with your buddies, in which case it is just another Monday.

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dajo9 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

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Would be nice if we could have a conversation about Trump's unfitness for office without you guys reverting to Biden whataboutism.

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Biden's F graded debate last Thursday, where Trump cleaned his clock, is still the top news story, along with the recent Supreme Court decisions. Discussing Trump's unfitness for office right now is actually Trump whataboutism, unless you are having your regularly scheduled circle jerk with your buddies, in which case it is just another Monday.

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Trump has never cleaned anybody's clock. That would require him to adhere to the truth to some degree.

I'm preparing a place on the wall in my house for these after SCOTUS affirms a tRump Executive Order compelling me to display them:

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dajo9 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

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Would be nice if we could have a conversation about Trump's unfitness for office without you guys reverting to Biden whataboutism.

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Biden's F graded debate last Thursday, where Trump cleaned his clock, is still the top news story, along with the recent Supreme Court decisions. Discussing Trump's unfitness for office right now is actually Trump whataboutism, unless you are having your regularly scheduled circle jerk with your buddies, in which case it is just another Monday.

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The BS and derangement that spewed from trump's mouth during the debate highlighted how unfit he is for office.

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dajo9 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

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Would be nice if we could have a conversation about Trump's unfitness for office without you guys reverting to Biden whataboutism.

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Biden's F graded debate last Thursday, where Trump cleaned his clock, is still the top news story, along with the recent Supreme Court decisions. Discussing Trump's unfitness for office right now is actually Trump whataboutism, unless you are having your regularly scheduled circle jerk with your buddies, in which case it is just another Monday.

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For an assortment of reasons Trump isn't going anywhere. Convicting and sentencing him before the election was the only shot. And to the extent people think he is unfit for office it is a judgement call inherently rooted in one's political alignment.

Biden's situation is inherently different. He is obviously and undeniably losing the battle with father time. He is mentally and physically incapable. It is tragic. But the D party can still do something about this. Get him out and nominate someone else that can beat Trump.

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…..may backfire on tRump worse than showing up for the debate backfired on Biden?

Now the reasons for keeping tRump out of the Oval seem to have been turbocharged.*

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden or any other Democratic, and they might get the majority to go along.

*I guess tRump's plans to exact revenge on Biden just went up in smoke with that decision…. although perhaps this SCOTUS would carve out a "Biden Exception" to it's immunity decision.

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What are you talking about? MAGA people love this. Rabid fever has set in. It's all going to end very badly. History has taught us this over and over and over again.

GoOskie said:

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Good point. I hope to God the American people wake up and get out and vote.

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden

If this happens then Biden should conduct a few official "core constitutional" acts.

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"Neville Chamberlain, meet Joe Biden."

The old man is just going to sit back and let it happen to him/us.

So, Biden can have a conversation with his Justice Department right now about rounding up all Republican politicians. And the court says we’re not even allowed to examine that decision or even know about it. And even if we find out, he still has absolute immunity. Totally nuts.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) July 1, 2024

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…..may backfire on tRump worse than showing up for the debate backfired on Biden?

Now the reasons for keeping tRump out of the Oval seem to have been turbocharged.*

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden or any other Democratic, and they might get the majority to go along.

*I guess tRump's plans to exact revenge on Biden just went up in smoke with that decision…. although perhaps this SCOTUS would carve out a "Biden Exception" to it's immunity decision.

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What are you talking about?

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Let me break out the chalkboard for you. There may be more people willing to vote for a figure head senile President when they ponder what someone with narcissist personality disorder might do now that the SCOTUS has made him feel like a mushroom cloud laying motherf@ucker. It may also increase the number of people no longer willing to hold their nose and vote for tRump.

tequila4kapp said:

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oski003 said:

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dajo9 said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Yes. From a political perspective anything that takes attention away from Biden's dementia and lack of fitness for office is a win for Biden and bad thing for Trump.

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Would be nice if we could have a conversation about Trump's unfitness for office without you guys reverting to Biden whataboutism.

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Biden's F graded debate last Thursday, where Trump cleaned his clock, is still the top news story, along with the recent Supreme Court decisions. Discussing Trump's unfitness for office right now is actually Trump whataboutism, unless you are having your regularly scheduled circle jerk with your buddies, in which case it is just another Monday.

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For an assortment of reasons Trump isn't going anywhere. Convicting and sentencing him before the election was the only shot. And to the extent people think he is unfit for office it is a judgement call inherently rooted in one's political alignment.

Biden's situation is inherently different. He is obviously and undeniably losing the battle with father time. He is mentally and physically incapable. It is tragic. But the D party can still do something about this. Get him out and nominate someone else that can beat Trump.

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Lol, you are so brazenly partisan. Trump literally bragged about being party to a murder and here you are covering for his state of mind.

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So, Biden can have a conversation with his Justice Department right now about rounding up all Republican politicians. And the court says we’re not even allowed to examine that decision or even know about it. And even if we find out, he still has absolute immunity. Totally nuts.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) July 1, 2024

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Cen Kuygur is illogical.

chazzed said:

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So, Biden can have a conversation with his Justice Department right now about rounding up all Republican politicians. And the court says we’re not even allowed to examine that decision or even know about it. And even if we find out, he still has absolute immunity. Totally nuts.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) July 1, 2024

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This is precisely the type of lazy, biased or unintelligent summarizing of the decision I warned against following.

The quote is not part of the opinion, just the head notes (or whatever the summary is called). And the actual opinion makes clear that the conclusion - what is referred to in the quote - is specifically referring to the allegations against Trump, and is not some form of Presidential carte blanche.

tequila4kapp said:

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chazzed said:

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So, Biden can have a conversation with his Justice Department right now about rounding up all Republican politicians. And the court says we’re not even allowed to examine that decision or even know about it. And even if we find out, he still has absolute immunity. Totally nuts.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) July 1, 2024

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This is precisely the type of lazy, biased or unintelligent summarizing of the decision I warned against following.

The quote is not part of the opinion, just the head notes (or whatever the summary is called). And the actual opinion makes clear that the conclusion - what is referred to in the quote - is specifically referring to the allegations against Trump, and is not some form of Presidential carte blanche.

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What in the world are you on? It's absolutely in the majority's decision (page 21). So your argument is only Trump gets to do this? Only he has this power? And you think that makes you sound more moderate and makes the "alarmists" look crazy? That's not how case law worked before this political court took reign. No wonder you never passed the bar. In a normal, sane world this would be precedent. It would apply to all future Presidents. The fact that we must even contemplate special powers only for Trump is what makes this so alarming. It's crazy that people like you hate this country so much that you'd rather have Trump than Democracy.

I haven't seen anyone post a crazy Cenk Uygur quote or tweet on here for years. This is great.

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concordtom said:

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bearister said:

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…..may backfire on tRump worse than showing up for the debate backfired on Biden?

Now the reasons for keeping tRump out of the Oval seem to have been turbocharged.*

*Granted, Thomas and Alito would take all judicial action necessary to reverse the results of any election won by Biden or any other Democratic, and they might get the majority to go along.

*I guess tRump's plans to exact revenge on Biden just went up in smoke with that decision…. although perhaps this SCOTUS would carve out a "Biden Exception" to it's immunity decision.

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What are you talking about?

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Let me break out the chalkboard for you. There may be more people willing to vote for a figure head senile President when they ponder what someone with narcissist personality disorder might do now that the SCOTUS has made him feel like a mushroom cloud laying motherf@ucker. It may also increase the number of people no longer willing to hold their nose and vote for tRump.

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I think that ship has sailed. Four years ago, everybody became aware and yet current polls tell us it doesn't matter.

Which do you think is more impactful, a violent insurrection at the capital or a supreme court decision? Most people probably don't really even get what these recent court decisions are. Most people are stupid. If they're not moved by idiots beating the hell out of cops, they're not going to be moved by a supreme court decision which has no visuals.

We might as well begin to prepare ourselves for everything tgat is about to come.
I think the entire world order could eventually fall apart.

chazzed said:

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A Few 'Official' Acts Biden Could Hypothetically Take Now That Presidents Have Criminal Immunity

https://www.jezebel.com/a-list-of-things-biden-could-hypothetically-do-now-that-presidents-have-criminal-immunity

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From your linked article for those that didn't read it:

"Based on the SCOTUS immunity decision, Biden should immediately: "Arrest the six conservative Supreme Court justices, send them to Guantanamo, and appoint six new ones.

Abolish the Senate and level the building, and unilaterally add 20 seats to the court.

Steal all of Elon Musk's money sitting in U.S. banks and donate it to Trans Lifeline.

Order drone strikes on student loan offices to destroy records of all current debts.

Pledge to give anyone who votes for Biden $1 million since the court also said bribes are fine.

Declare the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and Alliance Defending Freedom to be terrorist organizations and use their money to make every ATM dispense abortion pills.

Seize all of Leonard Leo's assets to build abortion spas where patients get a free full-body massage, a mani-pedi, and an all-day breakfast buffet.

Convert all crisis pregnancy centers into free daycares with unionized staff.

Nationalize U.S. car companies and use the profits to give us the beautiful Amtrak expansion map even sooner.

Force New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) to enact congestion pricing under threat of imprisonment.

Commandeer all of Trump and Jared Kushner's properties and turn them into free housing.

Make NASA launch Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) directly into the sun.

And, finally: steal the Declaration of Independence and go on a treasure hunt."
-Susan Rinkunas

WalterSobchak said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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chazzed said:

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So, Biden can have a conversation with his Justice Department right now about rounding up all Republican politicians. And the court says we’re not even allowed to examine that decision or even know about it. And even if we find out, he still has absolute immunity. Totally nuts.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) July 1, 2024

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This is precisely the type of lazy, biased or unintelligent summarizing of the decision I warned against following.

The quote is not part of the opinion, just the head notes (or whatever the summary is called). And the actual opinion makes clear that the conclusion - what is referred to in the quote - is specifically referring to the allegations against Trump, and is not some form of Presidential carte blanche.

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What in the world are you on? It's absolutely in the majority's decision (page 21). So your argument is only Trump gets to do this? Only he has this power? And you think that makes you sound more moderate and makes the "alarmists" look crazy? That's not how case law worked before this political court took reign. No wonder you never passed the bar. In a normal, sane world this would be precedent. It would apply to all future Presidents. The fact that we must even contemplate special powers only for Trump is what makes this so alarming. It's crazy that people like you hate this country so much that you'd rather have Trump than Democracy.

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I love the people who say they hate trump but then you just know there's little doubt they're gonna vote for him.
I have choice words for these people.

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The democratic republic will go down in flames and tequila4kapp will shill for Trump the entire descent. But he'll totally hate doing because he is absolutely not a Trump supporter.

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Ha!
Exactly.

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Does anyone else think that the SCOTUS immunity decision may backfire on tRump worse than showing up for the debate backfired on Biden?

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pic.twitter.com/wuE1Jc66H8

— The Right To Bear Memes (@grandoldmemes) July 1, 2024

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chazzed said:

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A Few 'Official' Acts Biden Could Hypothetically Take Now That Presidents Have Criminal Immunity

https://www.jezebel.com/a-list-of-things-biden-could-hypothetically-do-now-that-presidents-have-criminal-immunity

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From your linked article for those that didn't read it:

"Based on the SCOTUS immunity decision, Biden should immediately: "Arrest the six conservative Supreme Court justices, send them to Guantanamo, and appoint six new ones.

Abolish the Senate and level the building, and unilaterally add 20 seats to the court.

Steal all of Elon Musk's money sitting in U.S. banks and donate it to Trans Lifeline.

Order drone strikes on student loan offices to destroy records of all current debts.

Pledge to give anyone who votes for Biden $1 million since the court also said bribes are fine.

Declare the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and Alliance Defending Freedom to be terrorist organizations and use their money to make every ATM dispense abortion pills.

Seize all of Leonard Leo's assets to build abortion spas where patients get a free full-body massage, a mani-pedi, and an all-day breakfast buffet.

Convert all crisis pregnancy centers into free daycares with unionized staff.

Nationalize U.S. car companies and use the profits to give us the beautiful Amtrak expansion map even sooner.

Force New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) to enact congestion pricing under threat of imprisonment.

Commandeer all of Trump and Jared Kushner's properties and turn them into free housing.

Make NASA launch Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) directly into the sun.

And, finally: steal the Declaration of Independence and go on a treasure hunt."
-Susan Rinkunas

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Great starting list!
This was mine to my infamous TX cousin after he cheered the SCOTUS:

Yeah.
Now Biden can order Seal Team 6 to assassinate:
Donald Trump
Roger Stone
Steve Bannon
Sean Hannity
Tucker Carlson
Senator McConnell
Representative Jordan
Justice Alito
Etc
Etc
Etc
All as an official act to protect the state.

Great call, David. You sure know your politics!!

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chazzed said:

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A Few 'Official' Acts Biden Could Hypothetically Take Now That Presidents Have Criminal Immunity

https://www.jezebel.com/a-list-of-things-biden-could-hypothetically-do-now-that-presidents-have-criminal-immunity

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From your linked article for those that didn't read it:

"Based on the SCOTUS immunity decision, Biden should immediately: "Arrest the six conservative Supreme Court justices, send them to Guantanamo, and appoint six new ones.

Abolish the Senate and level the building, and unilaterally add 20 seats to the court.

Steal all of Elon Musk's money sitting in U.S. banks and donate it to Trans Lifeline.

Order drone strikes on student loan offices to destroy records of all current debts.

Pledge to give anyone who votes for Biden $1 million since the court also said bribes are fine.

Declare the Heritage Foundation, the Federalist Society, and Alliance Defending Freedom to be terrorist organizations and use their money to make every ATM dispense abortion pills.

Seize all of Leonard Leo's assets to build abortion spas where patients get a free full-body massage, a mani-pedi, and an all-day breakfast buffet.

Convert all crisis pregnancy centers into free daycares with unionized staff.

Nationalize U.S. car companies and use the profits to give us the beautiful Amtrak expansion map even sooner.

Force New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) to enact congestion pricing under threat of imprisonment.

Commandeer all of Trump and Jared Kushner's properties and turn them into free housing.

Make NASA launch Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) directly into the sun.

And, finally: steal the Declaration of Independence and go on a treasure hunt."
-Susan Rinkunas

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Ah yes. Thank you. I applaud those who are able to make humor out of terrible SCOTUS rulings.

WalterSobchak said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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chazzed said:

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So, Biden can have a conversation with his Justice Department right now about rounding up all Republican politicians. And the court says we’re not even allowed to examine that decision or even know about it. And even if we find out, he still has absolute immunity. Totally nuts.

— Cenk Uygur (@cenkuygur) July 1, 2024

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This is precisely the type of lazy, biased or unintelligent summarizing of the decision I warned against following.

The quote is not part of the opinion, just the head notes (or whatever the summary is called). And the actual opinion makes clear that the conclusion - what is referred to in the quote - is specifically referring to the allegations against Trump, and is not some form of Presidential carte blanche.

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What in the world are you on? It's absolutely in the majority's decision (page 21). So your argument is only Trump gets to do this? Only he has this power? And you think that makes you sound more moderate and makes the "alarmists" look crazy? That's not how case law worked before this political court took reign. No wonder you never passed the bar. In a normal, sane world this would be precedent. It would apply to all future Presidents. The fact that we must even contemplate special powers only for Trump is what makes this so alarming. It's crazy that people like you hate this country so much that you'd rather have Trump than Democracy.

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Control F failed me. But thanks for your generous and kind treatment of a simple mistake.

The tweet quoted that line then used it to support the proposition that a president can "order the Justice Department to do ANYTHING and he's absolutely immune"

I infer you are smart enough to know how precedent works and why that conclusion in the tweet is beyond preposterous.

Handy guide for official acts vs. unofficial acts
https://www.threads.net/@shenanigan.v/post/C85vSKHMKQM/?xmt=AQGzKn7Zfbwsqbeg6328PFvmgutjTzjS9KC9SXz310qOHw

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We might as well begin to prepare ourselves for everything that is about to come.
I think the entire world order could eventually fall apart.

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Yes. Hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Breaking a law to become president is an official act

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 2, 2024

chazzed said:

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Breaking a law to become president is an official act

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 2, 2024

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A lot of children are playing make believe. Are people so gullible to believe this drivel?

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chazzed said:

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Breaking a law to become president is an official act

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) July 2, 2024

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A lot of children are playing make believe. Are people so gullible to believe this drivel?

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The drivel is in the majority opinions.

How does a military general respond to an official order that is an illegal act?

I guess the general is in trouble no matter what he does.