Blood tests which indicate cancer

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concordtom
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Blood tests which indicate cancer.
I think this is both an interesting healthcare article as well as potential investment opportunity.

I once had a family member in the biological sciences field mention that a little blue pill was about to come out, and maybe folks should buy some stock. Good recommendation.

I am, however, not in the biological sciences field. So I drop for others to chew on.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/battle-brewing-over-blood-tests-110000291.html
DiabloWags
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I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!









"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
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DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.
I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist.
congrats. loong time ago we also leaned into health care, riding vanguard's diversified Health Care stock fund..
https://investor.vanguard.com/investment-products/mutual-funds/profile/vghcx#overview
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:


Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!



Or, don't eat bbq meat or salami type cold cuts. That 5hit hangs out and poisons the poop shoot.

Fiber flush it!!

(Sad fact…not funny… a dad in our community LOVED to bbq, and the couple would auction off hosted - by them - backyard parties to raise money for our schools. Others would rave over his expertise in meat cuts, and it was a popular item to bid on. That ended when he died of colon cancer. We bought one year but dates conflicted. I coached his daughter in soccer. Very sad.)
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.



Nice write up!
Thx for the addition.
DiabloWags
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I also have had a core position in NTRA in medical diagnostics.

They are THE leader in cancer monitoring/reoccurrence (MRD) from a tumor informed blood draw.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

I also have had a core position in NTRA in medical diagnostics.

They are THE leader in cancer monitoring/reoccurrence (MRD) from a tumor informed blood draw.



Look.
I didn't reply.
Hahaha.

…I just stumbled on ticker SOUN.
Nice chart. Never heard of it.
DiabloWags
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I bought NTRA at $9 a share in size, due to their tumor informed cancer monitoring platform (MRD) via a blood draw, based off the patient's tumor tissue.

99.8% specificity.
In other words, little if any false positive rate.
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

I bought NTRA at $9 a share in size, due to their tumor informed cancer monitoring platform (MRD) via a blood draw, based off the patient's tumor tissue.

99.8% specificity.
In other words, little if any false positive rate.



Where and when did you first hear of it?
How far will their test be able to be used? There are many types of cancer.

(Oh. $9. That's like 7+ years ago. I suppose lots of news and company applications stories since.)
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?
concordtom
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?

Have you been tracking the stock(s) in order to point out losses as some sort of win on your part? Or because you then bought at $70? Or….

Either way, this post doesn't look good on you.
oski003
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concordtom said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?

Have you been tracking the stock(s) in order to point out losses as some sort of win on your part? Or because you then bought at $70? Or….

Either way, this post doesn't look good on you.


I don't own EXAS. I spent two minutes looking up the price of it and then asked my question. I believe they release earnings today. Thanks.
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You are sanctimonious and don't know half of the things you pretend to. Thanks.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
oski003
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AunBear89 said:

You are sanctimonious and don't know half of the things you pretend to. Thanks.


Cool story bro.
AunBear89
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Still clueless, bro.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?

I bought the stock in 2009 in low single digits after a new CEO came in by the name of Kevin Conroy.

This was when Cologuard was nothing more than a "lab" test in a petri-dish. It was a long, long way from undergoing a validation study let alone FDA approval and covered by CMS, let alone the US Preventative Services Task Force (USPSTF) which controls any screening guidelines that impact primary care.

At one point, I owned 83,000 shares at an average cost of $8.75 and I was the reason that Andrew Bary of Barron's wrote a feature article on the company in Barron's back in October of 2012. The stock had been very volatile (up until now) and at one point traded as high as $150.

Exact Sciences Colon-Cancer Test Could Find Big Market - Barron's

I still own 26,000 shares.

They "missed" their numbers for Q3 last year and that spills into a Q4 overhang given that Q4 is the weakest of all their quarters due to the Holidays. Q4 was already pre-announced at the start of the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference in early January, (as they do every year) so today's earnings will not be "news".

They expect $713 million in revenue ((+10% y/y) and screening revenue (Cologuard) of $553 million (14% y/y).

The teens growth in Cologuard achieved in the last 3 quarters is encouraging, and the re-screen population (once every 3 years), as does the lowering of the screening age by the American Cancer Society to 45 from 50 - - - all should give them more of a "tailwind" in 2025. They also recently received a price increase from CMS.

But again, these topline numbers were announced back in January and won't be viewed as any material "news". Any competitor fears are totally overblown in my mind, given the rigorous regulatory and commercialization hurdles in the DX space.

That having been said, analysts and investors will be focusing on management's comments about re-accelerating Cologuard screening growth in 2025 to at least 15% as well as the launch of several new cancer screening products and even data on a blood-based colon cancer test and a multiple cancer early detection test (MCED). - - - But the latter is a very long road.

The stock is fighting negative momentum cast upon the entire Diagnostics sector (given Trump's NIH cuts and other FDA/SCOTUS regulatory issues over LDT's and reimbursement of a guideline included test). Just look at the charts of ILMN, TXG, and PACB to get an idea of how this sector has been torn a part.. NTRA is the lone exception. Poor investor sentiment is hard to fight and I would imagine it will take a couple of quarters for EXAS to regain positive investor sentiment.

In a nutshell, if one assumes low double-digit Cologuard volume growth from 2024 - 2027, including AEBITDA margins of 20%+, the stock can get back to $80 for the BASE case. The BULL case would be over $90. And I would say the BEAR case would be $40 which would imply only 2x price/sales.

I would encourage anyone interested in the stock to listen to today's earnings call after the close.
That's if they have more than 2-minutes to spare.

You're welcome.




oski003
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?

I bought the stock in 2009 in low single digits after a new CEO came in by the name of Kevin Conroy.

This was when Cologuard was nothing more than a "lab" test in a petri-dish. It was a long, long way from undergoing a validation study let alone FDA approval and covered by CMS, let alone the US Preventative Services Task Force (USPSTF) which controls any screening guidelines that impact primary care.

At one point, I owned 83,000 shares at an average cost of $8.75 and I was the reason that Andrew Bary of Barron's wrote a feature article on the company in Barron's back in October of 2012. The stock had been very volatile (up until now) and at one point traded as high as $150.

Exact Sciences Colon-Cancer Test Could Find Big Market - Barron's

I still own 26,000 shares.

They "missed" their numbers for Q3 last year and that spills into a Q4 overhang given that Q4 is the weakest of all their quarters due to the Holidays. Q4 was already pre-announced at the start of the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference in early January, (as they do every year) so today's earnings will not be "news".

They expect $713 million in revenue ((+10% y/y) and screening revenue (Cologuard) of $553 million (14% y/y).

The teens growth in Cologuard achieved in the last 3 quarters is encouraging, and the re-screen population (once every 3 years), as does the lowering of the screening age by the American Cancer Society to 45 from 50 - - - all should give them more of a "tailwind" in 2025. They also recently received a price increase from CMS.

But again, these topline numbers were announced back in January and won't be viewed as any material "news". Any competitor fears are totally overblown in my mind, given the rigorous regulatory and commercialization hurdles in the DX space.

That having been said, analysts and investors will be focusing on management's comments about re-accelerating Cologuard screening growth in 2025 to at least 15% as well as the launch of several new cancer screening products and even data on a blood-based colon cancer test and a multiple cancer early detection test (MCED). - - - But the latter is a very long road.

The stock is fighting negative momentum cast upon the entire Diagnostics sector (given Trump's NIH cuts and other FDA/SCOTUS regulatory issues over LDT's and reimbursement of a guideline included test). Just look at the charts of ILMN, TXG, and PACB to get an idea of how this sector has been torn a part.. NTRA is the lone exception. Poor investor sentiment is hard to fight and I would imagine it will take a couple of quarters for EXAS to regain positive investor sentiment.

In a nutshell, if one assumes low double-digit Cologuard volume growth from 2024 - 2027, including AEBITDA margins of 20%+, the stock can get back to $80 for the BASE case. The BULL case would be over $90. And I would say the BEAR case would be $40 which would imply only 2x price/sales.

I would encourage anyone interested in the stock to listen to today's earnings call after the close.
That's if they have more than 2-minutes to spare.

You're welcome.





I appreciate the thoughtful answer.
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?

I bought the stock in 2009 in low single digits after a new CEO came in by the name of Kevin Conroy.

This was when Cologuard was nothing more than a "lab" test in a petri-dish. It was a long, long way from undergoing a validation study let alone FDA approval and covered by CMS, let alone the US Preventative Services Task Force (USPSTF) which controls any screening guidelines that impact primary care.

At one point, I owned 83,000 shares at an average cost of $8.75 and I was the reason that Andrew Bary of Barron's wrote a feature article on the company in Barron's back in October of 2012. The stock had been very volatile (up until now) and at one point traded as high as $150.

Exact Sciences Colon-Cancer Test Could Find Big Market - Barron's

I still own 26,000 shares.

They "missed" their numbers for Q3 last year and that spills into a Q4 overhang given that Q4 is the weakest of all their quarters due to the Holidays. Q4 was already pre-announced at the start of the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference in early January, (as they do every year) so today's earnings will not be "news".

They expect $713 million in revenue ((+10% y/y) and screening revenue (Cologuard) of $553 million (14% y/y).

The teens growth in Cologuard achieved in the last 3 quarters is encouraging, and the re-screen population (once every 3 years), as does the lowering of the screening age by the American Cancer Society to 45 from 50 - - - all should give them more of a "tailwind" in 2025. They also recently received a price increase from CMS.

But again, these topline numbers were announced back in January and won't be viewed as any material "news". Any competitor fears are totally overblown in my mind, given the rigorous regulatory and commercialization hurdles in the DX space.

That having been said, analysts and investors will be focusing on management's comments about re-accelerating Cologuard screening growth in 2025 to at least 15% as well as the launch of several new cancer screening products and even data on a blood-based colon cancer test and a multiple cancer early detection test (MCED). - - - But the latter is a very long road.

The stock is fighting negative momentum cast upon the entire Diagnostics sector (given Trump's NIH cuts and other FDA/SCOTUS regulatory issues over LDT's and reimbursement of a guideline included test). Just look at the charts of ILMN, TXG, and PACB to get an idea of how this sector has been torn a part.. NTRA is the lone exception. Poor investor sentiment is hard to fight and I would imagine it will take a couple of quarters for EXAS to regain positive investor sentiment.

In a nutshell, if one assumes low double-digit Cologuard volume growth from 2024 - 2027, including AEBITDA margins of 20%+, the stock can get back to $80 for the BASE case. The BULL case would be over $90. And I would say the BEAR case would be $40 which would imply only 2x price/sales.

I would encourage anyone interested in the stock to listen to today's earnings call after the close.
That's if they have more than 2-minutes to spare.

You're welcome.





I appreciate the thoughtful answer.

Just started at 2PM PST

Exact Sciences Corporation - Fourth Quarter 2024 Earnings Call

"The Exact Sciences team is off to a good start in 2025, building on the momentum we created in the fourth quarter," said Kevin Conroy, Chairman and CEO of Exact Sciences. "This year is on track to be the most productive in company history, with continued execution from our core business and the launch of three innovative cancer tests. This will power years of growth and profitability, deepen our leadership in diagnostics, and help eradicate cancer by preventing it, detecting it earlier, and guiding personalized treatment."

Note: The CEO is not one to make such bold statements.

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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

I have owned shares in Exact Sciences (EXAS) going back to 2009.
At one point, I held 83,000 shares in single digits.
Still hold 26,000 shares.

The CEO is one of the brightest in the business.

I remember when he was brought in to lead the company in 2009 when it only had 5 employees left and nothing but some IP and an idea from a noted gastroenterologist from the Mayo Clinic, Dr. David Ahlquist. It now has 6500 employees and a 1,350 member commercial team with 500 people in R&D. Delivered 4 million+ Cologuard tests in 2023.

This blood test will not topple the performance of Cologuard, their stool DNA test for colon cancer.
Cologuard has superior Stage 1 and Stage 2 sensitivity as well as pre-cancer sensitivity.

This blood test is for those who are unwilling to undergo colonoscopy or use Cologuard on a once every 3 year screening interval. Cologuard is currently fully reimbursed by commercial payors and of course free with Medicare with no co-pay per the ACA.

The data announced was merely a "sample" of a much larger pivotal clinical study.
This data was used to lock down the CRC test algorithm.

As a result, it was a quasi-case-control study that included prospectively collected "normals" (no findings or non-advanced polyps) from their BLUE-C pivotal trial, advanced precancerous lesions (60% prospectively collected), and enriched fully for cancers (n=-60).

The "prospective" collection dynamic in this data should add a bit of confidence heading into the readout of the pivotal clinical trial - - - namely that degradation won't be as dramatic as usually is the case in a prospective clinical trial vs a case controlled study.

Pivotal study results are due in the first half of 2025.

The bar for CMS reimbursement will be CRC sensitivity of 74% and a specificity of 90%.

Colon Cancer is the leading cause of cancer death in Men < 50.

In 2018, the American Cancer Society lowered the recommended age to start screening for CRC from age 50 to 45.

Get Screened!




EXAS is down to $50 pps. It was $70 pps at the time you revealed you held thousands of shares. Will it recover?

I bought the stock in 2009 in low single digits after a new CEO came in by the name of Kevin Conroy.

This was when Cologuard was nothing more than a "lab" test in a petri-dish. It was a long, long way from undergoing a validation study let alone FDA approval and covered by CMS, let alone the US Preventative Services Task Force (USPSTF) which controls any screening guidelines that impact primary care.

At one point, I owned 83,000 shares at an average cost of $8.75 and I was the reason that Andrew Bary of Barron's wrote a feature article on the company in Barron's back in October of 2012. The stock had been very volatile (up until now) and at one point traded as high as $150.

Exact Sciences Colon-Cancer Test Could Find Big Market - Barron's

I still own 26,000 shares.

They "missed" their numbers for Q3 last year and that spills into a Q4 overhang given that Q4 is the weakest of all their quarters due to the Holidays. Q4 was already pre-announced at the start of the JP Morgan Healthcare Conference in early January, (as they do every year) so today's earnings will not be "news".

They expect $713 million in revenue ((+10% y/y) and screening revenue (Cologuard) of $553 million (14% y/y).

The teens growth in Cologuard achieved in the last 3 quarters is encouraging, and the re-screen population (once every 3 years), as does the lowering of the screening age by the American Cancer Society to 45 from 50 - - - all should give them more of a "tailwind" in 2025. They also recently received a price increase from CMS.

But again, these topline numbers were announced back in January and won't be viewed as any material "news". Any competitor fears are totally overblown in my mind, given the rigorous regulatory and commercialization hurdles in the DX space.

That having been said, analysts and investors will be focusing on management's comments about re-accelerating Cologuard screening growth in 2025 to at least 15% as well as the launch of several new cancer screening products and even data on a blood-based colon cancer test and a multiple cancer early detection test (MCED). - - - But the latter is a very long road.

The stock is fighting negative momentum cast upon the entire Diagnostics sector (given Trump's NIH cuts and other FDA/SCOTUS regulatory issues over LDT's and reimbursement of a guideline included test). Just look at the charts of ILMN, TXG, and PACB to get an idea of how this sector has been torn a part.. NTRA is the lone exception. Poor investor sentiment is hard to fight and I would imagine it will take a couple of quarters for EXAS to regain positive investor sentiment.

In a nutshell, if one assumes low double-digit Cologuard volume growth from 2024 - 2027, including AEBITDA margins of 20%+, the stock can get back to $80 for the BASE case. The BULL case would be over $90. And I would say the BEAR case would be $40 which would imply only 2x price/sales.

I would encourage anyone interested in the stock to listen to today's earnings call after the close.
That's if they have more than 2-minutes to spare.

You're welcome.







Lol. Double Oh Zero wouldn't know what they were saying even if he listened in slo mo.

It's 5pm. I'll take the skinny. So, what did they say?

I just received another cologuard in the mail, and I just did it 12 months ago. Huh!
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