The only other thing I've heard about (as someone who didn't watch it live) is Vance arguing with the moderators about being fact-checked.SBGold said:Yes, not much stood out except Walz's fumbling of his China visit statements and Vance not acknowledging the severity to Jan. 6th as well as saying that Trump saved ACA (lmao)sycasey said:bear2034 said:
I agree VP debates don't matter much, however, for this election, both sides are focusing on a small number of independents in battleground states, and this debate may have decided things for them.
Okay, but post-debate polling suggests that it was basically a wash, so I don't know how that's going to move things.
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I got news for you, MAGA is the moderate. The other side is neo-cons, if that's your flavor then I have to wonder why you would vote for a democrat. "Yes let's get more Lindsay Graham style politics!"
In ND, yes. But no one cares about ND, it's just a frozen hellscapeMinotStateBeav said:
I got news for you, MAGA is the moderate. The other side is neo-cons, if that's your flavor then I have to wonder why you would vote for a democrat. "Yes let's get more Lindsay Graham style politics!"
Speaking of "meltdowns" it certainly appears that you got TRIGGERED.bear2034 said:
But still, there were meltdowns.
Posted 32X yesterday.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
SBGold said:In ND, yes. But no one cares about ND, it's just a frozen hellscapeMinotStateBeav said:
I got news for you, MAGA is the moderate. The other side is neo-cons, if that's your flavor then I have to wonder why you would vote for a democrat. "Yes let's get more Lindsay Graham style politics!"
Yup.
Population 779,000
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"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
It shouldn't even be a stateDiabloWags said:SBGold said:In ND, yes. But no one cares about ND, it's just a frozen hellscapeMinotStateBeav said:
I got news for you, MAGA is the moderate. The other side is neo-cons, if that's your flavor then I have to wonder why you would vote for a democrat. "Yes let's get more Lindsay Graham style politics!"
Yup.
Population 779,000
No one cares
DiabloWags said:Speaking of "meltdowns" it certainly appears that you got TRIGGERED.bear2034 said:
But still, there were meltdowns.
Posted 32X yesterday.
What is more of a meltdown, posting 32 times in one day on a forum or bragging about and posting pictures of your porsche on multiple occasions on a non-car forum?
oski003 said:DiabloWags said:Speaking of "meltdowns" it certainly appears that you got TRIGGERED.bear2034 said:
But still, there were meltdowns.
Posted 32X yesterday.
What is more of a meltdown, posting 32 times in one day on a forum or bragging about posting pictures of your porsche on multiple occasions on a non-car forum?
I rent so much "free" space in your dome.
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VANCE: And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP One app where you can go on as an illegal migrant [and] apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a Green Card, and waiting for 10 years. That is the facilitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. And Kamala Harris opened up that pathway.
WALZ: Those laws have been on the books since 1990.
VANCE: The CBP One app has not been on the books since 1990. It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret.
https://xcancel.com/KamalaHQ/status/1841291195919606165
"On October 28, 2020, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) launched the FREE CBP One mobile application on the Apple App and Google Play stores."
https://www.cbp.gov/about/mobile-apps-directory/cbpone
Who was POTUS on October 28, 2020? I forget.
VANCE: And since you're fact checking me, I think it's important to say what's actually going on. So there's an application called the CBP One app where you can go on as an illegal migrant [and] apply for asylum or apply for parole and be granted legal status at the wave of a Kamala Harris open border wand. That is not a person coming in, applying for a Green Card, and waiting for 10 years. That is the facilitation of illegal immigration, Margaret, by our own leadership. And Kamala Harris opened up that pathway.
WALZ: Those laws have been on the books since 1990.
VANCE: The CBP One app has not been on the books since 1990. It's something that Kamala Harris created, Margaret.
https://xcancel.com/KamalaHQ/status/1841291195919606165
"On October 28, 2020, U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) launched the FREE CBP One mobile application on the Apple App and Google Play stores."
https://www.cbp.gov/about/mobile-apps-directory/cbpone
Who was POTUS on October 28, 2020? I forget.
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sycasey said:bear2034 said:
I agree VP debates don't matter much, however, for this election, both sides are focusing on a small number of independents in battleground states, and this debate may have decided things for them.
Okay, but post-debate polling suggests that it was basically a wash, so I don't know how that's going to move things.
As usual, it depends on the poll.
A Brave New World … pic.twitter.com/bkK8yc5cSi
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) October 2, 2024
DiabloWags said:Speaking of "meltdowns" it certainly appears that you got TRIGGERED.bear2034 said:
But still, there were meltdowns.
Posted 32X yesterday.
DOJ Indicts JD Vance For Brutally Beating 3 Women https://t.co/WPgeUvqAzm pic.twitter.com/vCfgPiXu9x
— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) October 2, 2024
That's not a poll, that's a betting market.bear2034 said:sycasey said:bear2034 said:
I agree VP debates don't matter much, however, for this election, both sides are focusing on a small number of independents in battleground states, and this debate may have decided things for them.
Okay, but post-debate polling suggests that it was basically a wash, so I don't know how that's going to move things.
As usual, it depends on the poll.A Brave New World … pic.twitter.com/bkK8yc5cSi
— Rasmussen Reports (@Rasmussen_Poll) October 2, 2024
More accurate then?
I want to see the Porsche picsoski003 said:DiabloWags said:Speaking of "meltdowns" it certainly appears that you got TRIGGERED.bear2034 said:
But still, there were meltdowns.
Posted 32X yesterday.
What is more of a meltdown, posting 32 times in one day on a forum or bragging about and posting pictures of your porsche on multiple occasions on a non-car forum?
VOTE BLUE
I don't think there's any evidence that betting markets are more accurate than polling, no.bear2034 said:
More accurate then?
Weird debate setup pic.twitter.com/67ebZB9uaV
— The Rabbit Hole (@TheRabbitHole84) October 4, 2024
It is pretty telling to me that the Left villainizes Vance, a smart decent guy who served his country and who has reasonable political views.harebear said:Whoever made this is a genius 🤣 pic.twitter.com/5C8BerMJOS
— Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) October 4, 2024
That couch****er is a lying misogynistic villain
And Walz is a nice guy who occasionally misspeaks.
You think only the Left disapproves of Vance?
Vance was one of tRump's harshest critics. What changed?
During the debate Vance said the change was finding out the stories about tRump were not true. What are all the stories about tRump upon which he based his negative opinion of him that turned out not to be true?
Did tRump change?
Did Vance publicly change his opinion of tRump because of career advancement and power?
Vance was one of tRump's harshest critics. What changed?
During the debate Vance said the change was finding out the stories about tRump were not true. What are all the stories about tRump upon which he based his negative opinion of him that turned out not to be true?
Did tRump change?
Did Vance publicly change his opinion of tRump because of career advancement and power?
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I might consider his views "reasonable" if he could just admit that Trump lost in 2020 and that Jan 6 and the subsequent efforts to overturn the results were bad. But he can't do that, because Trump and the MAGA base would drop him like a hot rock. That's kind of a deal-breaker for me.tequila4kapp said:It is pretty telling to me that the Left villainizes Vance, a smart decent guy who served his country and who has reasonable political views.harebear said:Whoever made this is a genius 🤣 pic.twitter.com/5C8BerMJOS
— Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) October 4, 2024
Too bad he tends to to lie and avoid answering the Jan 6th question.tequila4kapp said:It is pretty telling to me that the Left villainizes Vance, a smart decent guy who served his country and who has reasonable political views.harebear said:Whoever made this is a genius 🤣 pic.twitter.com/5C8BerMJOS
— Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) October 4, 2024
Never Trumper? Oh yeah, not anymore
He's trash
No original thoughts, nice Simpsons memes though. Brain rot as the kids say these days.bear2034 said:Weird debate setup pic.twitter.com/67ebZB9uaV
— The Rabbit Hole (@TheRabbitHole84) October 4, 2024
VOTE BLUE
Vance is billionaire fascist Peter Thiel's Trojan Horse. Within 4 years of Donold doing off the wall stuff in the White House, they'll 25th amendment him and the billionaires will have their guy in the White House in No Chance Vance.bearister said:
You think only the Left disapproves of Vance?
Vance was one of tRump's harshest critics. What changed?
During the debate Vance said the change was finding out the stories about tRump were not true. What are all the stories about tRump upon which he based his negative opinion of him that turned out not to be true?
Did tRump change?
Did Vance publicly change his opinion of tRump because of career advancement and power?
dajo9 said:Vance is billionaire fascist Peter Thiel's Trojan Horse. Within 4 years of Donold doing off the wall stuff in the White House, they'll 25th amendment him and the billionaires will have their guy in the White House in No Chance Vance.bearister said:
You think only the Left disapproves of Vance?
Vance was one of tRump's harshest critics. What changed?
During the debate Vance said the change was finding out the stories about tRump were not true. What are all the stories about tRump upon which he based his negative opinion of him that turned out not to be true?
Did tRump change?
Did Vance publicly change his opinion of tRump because of career advancement and power?
Will Dajo's Vance dossier be proven true, just like Hillary's Trump Dossier?
oski003 said:dajo9 said:Vance is billionaire fascist Peter Thiel's Trojan Horse. Within 4 years of Donold doing off the wall stuff in the White House, they'll 25th amendment him and the billionaires will have their guy in the White House in No Chance Vance.bearister said:
You think only the Left disapproves of Vance?
Vance was one of tRump's harshest critics. What changed?
During the debate Vance said the change was finding out the stories about tRump were not true. What are all the stories about tRump upon which he based his negative opinion of him that turned out not to be true?
Did tRump change?
Did Vance publicly change his opinion of tRump because of career advancement and power?
Will Dajo's Vance dossier be proven true, just like Hillary's Trump Dossier?
Vivian Vances son.
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sycasey said:I might consider his views "reasonable" if he could just admit that Trump lost in 2020 and that Jan 6 and the subsequent efforts to overturn the results were bad. But he can't do that, because Trump and the MAGA base would drop him like a hot rock. That's kind of a deal-breaker for me.tequila4kapp said:It is pretty telling to me that the Left villainizes Vance, a smart decent guy who served his country and who has reasonable political views.harebear said:Whoever made this is a genius 🤣 pic.twitter.com/5C8BerMJOS
— Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) October 4, 2024
At some point in the future, Vance could possibly have credibility with me, but he's going to have to distance himself from MAGA (while Trump's still alive). I get why now is not a great time for that, so I'm not holding his stupid answer to the J6 question against him. But starting in November...
I don't believe it's a binary choice, MAGA or anti-MAGA. For a Republican who doesn't want to get Trump-cancelled, they can use language to show where they stand (just like Vance did when he gave his non-answer).
Big C said:sycasey said:I might consider his views "reasonable" if he could just admit that Trump lost in 2020 and that Jan 6 and the subsequent efforts to overturn the results were bad. But he can't do that, because Trump and the MAGA base would drop him like a hot rock. That's kind of a deal-breaker for me.tequila4kapp said:It is pretty telling to me that the Left villainizes Vance, a smart decent guy who served his country and who has reasonable political views.harebear said:Whoever made this is a genius 🤣 pic.twitter.com/5C8BerMJOS
— Devin Duke (@sirDukeDevin) October 4, 2024
At some point in the future, Vance could possibly have credibility with me, but he's going to have to distance himself from MAGA (while Trump's still alive). I get why now is not a great time for that, so I'm not holding his stupid answer to the J6 question against him. But starting in November...
I don't believe it's a binary choice, MAGA or anti-MAGA. For a Republican who doesn't want to get Trump-cancelled, they can use language to show where they stand (just like Vance did when he gave his non-answer).
No. No second chances for anyone willing to be on a ticket with Trump.
Being MAGAt is a forever stain. Like being a Confederate.
I think your take is completely inaccurate. Cheney gets no free pass from any credible Democrat. He's seen the light on Trumplicans sure, but he still has a pathetic past political history as well
SBGold said:
I think your take is completely inaccurate. Cheney gets no free pass from any credible Democrat. He's seen the light on Trumplicans sure, but he still has a pathetic past political history as well
Republicans like to say that they have always been centrist and that Democrats have moved so far to the left that it looks like the GOP has shifted rightward.
The reality is that even neocons like Bush and Cheney think today's Republican party is too far right for them.
dimitrig said:
The reality is that even neocons like Bush and Cheney think today's Republican party is too far right for them.
The reality is, Dick Cheney endorsing Kamala Harris says more about Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party than it does about Dick Cheney.
bear2034 said:dimitrig said:
The reality is that even neocons like Bush and Cheney think today's Republican party is too far right for them.
The reality is, Dick Cheney endorsing Kamala Harris says more about Kamala Harris and the Democratic Party than it does about Dick Cheney.
If Kamala Harris and Dick Cheney have the same politics the right should love her.
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