MAGA world's hyper-confidence raises risk of post-election meltdown

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MAGA world's hyper-confidence raises risk of post-election meltdown


https://www.axios.com/2024/10/29/trump-election-win-confidence-rigged

"All of this ,paired with the already rampant MAGA belief that Democrats "rig" elections is setting the stage for a wholesale rejection of a potential Harris victory by Trump supporters.

"[T]here is a real danger when media echo chambers falsely and knowingly tell half the country that their candidate is going to win," conservative writer Matt Lewis warned Monday.
"People wake up to the results the morning after the election, and are incredulous."

What they're saying: At Trump's triumphant rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday, guest speaker Tucker Carlson captured the sort of conspiratorial thinking fostered by this bubble of hyper-confidence.

"Ten days from now ... It's going to be pretty hard to look at us and say, 'You know what? Kamala Harris, she got 85 million votes because she's just so impressive,' " Carlson said mockingly.
In Carlson's eyes, Trump is winning so comfortably and Harris is so unpopular that Democrats will not be able to "get away with" claiming they won the election like they did in 2020.

Zoom in: Trump himself has falsely claimed that the only way he could lose the 2024 election is if Democrats "cheat," ignoring polls that show a margin-of-error race in all seven battleground states.

"She's actually imploding, if you take a look, because look, I'm not supposed to say it, but we are leading by so much," Trump declared in Las Vegas last week."

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bearister said:

MAGA world's hyper-confidence raises risk of post-election meltdown


https://www.axios.com/2024/10/29/trump-election-win-confidence-rigged

"All of this ,paired with the already rampant MAGA belief that Democrats "rig" elections is setting the stage for a wholesale rejection of a potential Harris victory by Trump supporters.

"[T]here is a real danger when media echo chambers falsely and knowingly tell half the country that their candidate is going to win," conservative writer Matt Lewis warned Monday.
"People wake up to the results the morning after the election, and are incredulous."

What they're saying: At Trump's triumphant rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday, guest speaker Tucker Carlson captured the sort of conspiratorial thinking fostered by this bubble of hyper-confidence.

"Ten days from now ... It's going to be pretty hard to look at us and say, 'You know what? Kamala Harris, she got 85 million votes because she's just so impressive,' " Carlson said mockingly.
In Carlson's eyes, Trump is winning so comfortably and Harris is so unpopular that Democrats will not be able to "get away with" claiming they won the election like they did in 2020.

Zoom in: Trump himself has falsely claimed that the only way he could lose the 2024 election is if Democrats "cheat," ignoring polls that show a margin-of-error race in all seven battleground states.

"She's actually imploding, if you take a look, because look, I'm not supposed to say it, but we are leading by so much," Trump declared in Las Vegas last week."


Well too bad. If a few snowflakes have to get spanked because they can't handle Kamala Harris getting elected POTUS, so be it. It's time to bring an end to this sh*tshow.
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Cal Junkie said:

bearister said:

MAGA world's hyper-confidence raises risk of post-election meltdown


https://www.axios.com/2024/10/29/trump-election-win-confidence-rigged

"All of this ,paired with the already rampant MAGA belief that Democrats "rig" elections is setting the stage for a wholesale rejection of a potential Harris victory by Trump supporters.

"[T]here is a real danger when media echo chambers falsely and knowingly tell half the country that their candidate is going to win," conservative writer Matt Lewis warned Monday.
"People wake up to the results the morning after the election, and are incredulous."

What they're saying: At Trump's triumphant rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday, guest speaker Tucker Carlson captured the sort of conspiratorial thinking fostered by this bubble of hyper-confidence.

"Ten days from now ... It's going to be pretty hard to look at us and say, 'You know what? Kamala Harris, she got 85 million votes because she's just so impressive,' " Carlson said mockingly.
In Carlson's eyes, Trump is winning so comfortably and Harris is so unpopular that Democrats will not be able to "get away with" claiming they won the election like they did in 2020.

Zoom in: Trump himself has falsely claimed that the only way he could lose the 2024 election is if Democrats "cheat," ignoring polls that show a margin-of-error race in all seven battleground states.

"She's actually imploding, if you take a look, because look, I'm not supposed to say it, but we are leading by so much," Trump declared in Las Vegas last week."


Well too bad. If a few snowflakes have to get spanked because they can't handle Kamala Harris getting elected POTUS, so be it. It's time to bring an end to this sh*tshow.
Agreed! enough is enough

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Call me a snowflake, but I am so beyond anxious about this election (understatement of the year). Both the results and the consequences.

If Harris wins, Trump will swear he KNOWS it was stolen and his supporters have been so primed to believe this that there will be horrible acts of violence and sabotage and the most extreme elements of MAGA will feel justified to be their worst in office and in society. It will be a non-stop escalation of conspiracy and threats of civil war and we can't let this black woman have any power or success. Those who are on the fence of the fascist cult will further radicalize.

If Trump wins, MAGA will see this as total vindication for every hateful thing he has said or done and there will be unmitigated bullying, violence, and the installment of cruel loyalists throughout government. The propaganda machine will be entrenched and Project 2025 and Christian Nationalists will go unchecked in the destruction of democracy and the conversion of America to a theocratic oligarchy. The racists will set the policy and own the public square. The question then will become will there be an election in 2028 (a legitimate one or just a Putinesque show election?) and what becomes of the scientists, artists, intellectuals, and voices of political opposition? Are they prosecuted? Are they silenced? OR are they able to galvanize and toss the fascists out?

Ugliness either way because the azzholes have been inculcated, radicalized, empowered and armed. They are now free of public shaming and been told by their leader and their God that they are moral patriots even as they delight in attacking others, stealing others rights and pursuit of happiness, and defiling the core principles of the Constitution and their Bible.
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blungld said:

Call me a snowflake, but I am so beyond anxious about this election (understatement of the year). Both the results and the consequences.

If Harris wins, Trump will swear he KNOWS it was stolen and his supporters have been so primed to believe this that there will be horrible acts of violence and sabotage and the most extreme elements of MAGA will feel justified to be their worst in office and in society. It will be a non-stop escalation of conspiracy and threats of civil war and we can't let this black woman have any power or success. Those who are on the fence of the fascist cult will further radicalize.

If Trump wins, MAGA will see this as total vindication for every hateful thing he has said or done and there will be unmitigated bullying, violence, and the installment of cruel loyalists throughout government. The propaganda machine will be entrenched and Project 2025 and Christian Nationalists will go unchecked in the destruction of democracy and the conversion of America to a theocratic oligarchy. The racists will set the policy and own the public square. The question then will become will there be an election in 2028 (a legitimate one or just a Putinesque show election?) and what becomes of the scientists, artists, intellectuals, and voices of political opposition? Are they prosecuted? Are they silenced? OR are they able to galvanize and toss the fascists out?

Ugliness either way because the azzholes have been inculcated, radicalized, empowered and armed. They are now free of public shaming and been told by their leader and their God that they are moral patriots even as they delight in attacking others, stealing others rights and pursuit of happiness, and defiling the core principles of the Constitution and their Bible.


You should watch Inside Out 2 for guidance on managing emotions.
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All we can hope for is that he won't have the willing manpower of the military to impose his will on the majority of Americans that disagree with his announced extreme policies.

In California he would have to suspend the right to jury trial to impose any extreme anti Democratic laws/Executive Orders because a jury would never convict.

I think the greatest danger tRump faces is when Elon Musk decides tRump's usefulness to him has expired.
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The type of person that Trump's GOP has enabled is frightening. Let's hope for the best, which includes election officials and police officers doing their jobs.

EDIT:
And you are correct: Let us hope that significant members of the military do not go rogue.
blungld
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oski003 said:

blungld said:

Call me a snowflake, but I am so beyond anxious about this election (understatement of the year). Both the results and the consequences.

If Harris wins, Trump will swear he KNOWS it was stolen and his supporters have been so primed to believe this that there will be horrible acts of violence and sabotage and the most extreme elements of MAGA will feel justified to be their worst in office and in society. It will be a non-stop escalation of conspiracy and threats of civil war and we can't let this black woman have any power or success. Those who are on the fence of the fascist cult will further radicalize.

If Trump wins, MAGA will see this as total vindication for every hateful thing he has said or done and there will be unmitigated bullying, violence, and the installment of cruel loyalists throughout government. The propaganda machine will be entrenched and Project 2025 and Christian Nationalists will go unchecked in the destruction of democracy and the conversion of America to a theocratic oligarchy. The racists will set the policy and own the public square. The question then will become will there be an election in 2028 (a legitimate one or just a Putinesque show election?) and what becomes of the scientists, artists, intellectuals, and voices of political opposition? Are they prosecuted? Are they silenced? OR are they able to galvanize and toss the fascists out?

Ugliness either way because the azzholes have been inculcated, radicalized, empowered and armed. They are now free of public shaming and been told by their leader and their God that they are moral patriots even as they delight in attacking others, stealing others rights and pursuit of happiness, and defiling the core principles of the Constitution and their Bible.


You should watch Inside Out 2 for guidance on managing emotions.
You should learn to be a decent person.
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tequila4kapp
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bearister said:

MAGA world's hyper-confidence raises risk of post-election meltdown


https://www.axios.com/2024/10/29/trump-election-win-confidence-rigged

"All of this ,paired with the already rampant MAGA belief that Democrats "rig" elections is setting the stage for a wholesale rejection of a potential Harris victory by Trump supporters.

"[T]here is a real danger when media echo chambers falsely and knowingly tell half the country that their candidate is going to win," conservative writer Matt Lewis warned Monday.
"People wake up to the results the morning after the election, and are incredulous."

What they're saying: At Trump's triumphant rally at New York's Madison Square Garden on Sunday, guest speaker Tucker Carlson captured the sort of conspiratorial thinking fostered by this bubble of hyper-confidence.

"Ten days from now ... It's going to be pretty hard to look at us and say, 'You know what? Kamala Harris, she got 85 million votes because she's just so impressive,' " Carlson said mockingly.
In Carlson's eyes, Trump is winning so comfortably and Harris is so unpopular that Democrats will not be able to "get away with" claiming they won the election like they did in 2020.

Zoom in: Trump himself has falsely claimed that the only way he could lose the 2024 election is if Democrats "cheat," ignoring polls that show a margin-of-error race in all seven battleground states.

"She's actually imploding, if you take a look, because look, I'm not supposed to say it, but we are leading by so much," Trump declared in Las Vegas last week."


100% agree with this sentiment. There's a very prevalent theme in Right of center media that things are breaking Trump's way, the election is his to lose, etc. But Ds have TDS and aren't just gonna lay down for this. Harris has way more money than Trump. Gotta figure it's being spent to get her vote out. That goes way way under the radar, doesn't show up in polls or necessarily in early voting results. I predicted Harris would win. If that happens it's going to be a serious shock to people who live in the media world described above. The easy explanation for them may be rigged election stuff.
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blungld said:



If Trump wins, MAGA will see this as total vindication for every hateful thing he has said or done and there will be unmitigated bullying, violence, and the installment of cruel loyalists throughout government. The propaganda machine will be entrenched and Project 2025 and Christian Nationalists will go unchecked in the destruction of democracy and the conversion of America to a theocratic oligarchy. The racists will set the policy and own the public square. The question then will become will there be an election in 2028 (a legitimate one or just a Putinesque show election?) and what becomes of the scientists, artists, intellectuals, and voices of political opposition? Are they prosecuted? Are they silenced? OR are they able to galvanize and toss the fascists out?

Ugliness either way because the azzholes have been inculcated, radicalized, empowered and armed. They are now free of public shaming and been told by their leader and their God that they are moral patriots even as they delight in attacking others, stealing others rights and pursuit of happiness, and defiling the core principles of the Constitution and their Bible.
1st paragraph…yeah, don't see it that way at all. The Right might feel vindicated about Lawfare, etc. the rest isn't happening. This is still a democracy with checks and balances. We will be fine, unless Trump pushes the Big Button.

If Trump wins Ds should really stop focusing on Trump and look in the mirror. This is the most winnable election ever. If Ds lose it…having a coup to take out a sitting president and replace him with a poor candidate because she checks certain boxes for Progressives…it'll go down in history as the most stupid move ever…if Ds can ever have the introspection to see it.
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