from Daily Beast, why betting markets are hogwash (Polymarket, Robinhood, etc)

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Some experts have expressed concern over the potential for odds pushed by these platforms to muddy electoral waters with forecasts based on perceived investment opportunities rather than a wider view of political developments. The flow of money, particularly from foreign entities, can skew the results.
Polymarket, itself the world's largest prediction market, has come under particular scrutiny, after it was revealed a single French national had bet more than $45 million on a Trump victory, pushing the Republican candidate's odds as high as 66%.

The site has nevertheless received ringing endorsement from Trump's most vocal and arguably most controversial backer, Elon Musk, who has praised prediction markets for being "more accurate than [traditional] polls, as actual money is on the line."

Billionaire investor and long-time Trump critic Mark Cuban, by contrast, has taken aim at the site, pointing out that American citizens are technically prohibited from trading on the platform, and that "foreign money" is an unreliable predictor of the course of political events in the US.
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Rajiv Sethi, an economist at Columbia University's Barnard College, also warned in an interview with Bloomberg that deep-pocketed gamblers from foreign locales could be throwing down cash in Trump's favor.
"There's no reason why somehow the price that emerges from their activity with each other is going to generate an accurate forecast," Sethi said.

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oski003
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SBGold said:

Some experts have expressed concern over the potential for odds pushed by these platforms to muddy electoral waters with forecasts based on perceived investment opportunities rather than a wider view of political developments. The flow of money, particularly from foreign entities, can skew the results.
Polymarket, itself the world's largest prediction market, has come under particular scrutiny, after it was revealed a single French national had bet more than $45 million on a Trump victory, pushing the Republican candidate's odds as high as 66%.

The site has nevertheless received ringing endorsement from Trump's most vocal and arguably most controversial backer, Elon Musk, who has praised prediction markets for being "more accurate than [traditional] polls, as actual money is on the line."

Billionaire investor and long-time Trump critic Mark Cuban, by contrast, has taken aim at the site, pointing out that American citizens are technically prohibited from trading on the platform, and that "foreign money" is an unreliable predictor of the course of political events in the US.
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Rajiv Sethi, an economist at Columbia University's Barnard College, also warned in an interview with Bloomberg that deep-pocketed gamblers from foreign locales could be throwing down cash in Trump's favor.
"There's no reason why somehow the price that emerges from their activity with each other is going to generate an accurate forecast," Sethi said.

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Easy money for SBGold. You can then buy some time and actually notice 50 of your last 50 posts had to be moderated.
SBGold
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oski003 said:

SBGold said:

Some experts have expressed concern over the potential for odds pushed by these platforms to muddy electoral waters with forecasts based on perceived investment opportunities rather than a wider view of political developments. The flow of money, particularly from foreign entities, can skew the results.
Polymarket, itself the world's largest prediction market, has come under particular scrutiny, after it was revealed a single French national had bet more than $45 million on a Trump victory, pushing the Republican candidate's odds as high as 66%.

The site has nevertheless received ringing endorsement from Trump's most vocal and arguably most controversial backer, Elon Musk, who has praised prediction markets for being "more accurate than [traditional] polls, as actual money is on the line."

Billionaire investor and long-time Trump critic Mark Cuban, by contrast, has taken aim at the site, pointing out that American citizens are technically prohibited from trading on the platform, and that "foreign money" is an unreliable predictor of the course of political events in the US.
The video player is currently playing an ad.

Rajiv Sethi, an economist at Columbia University's Barnard College, also warned in an interview with Bloomberg that deep-pocketed gamblers from foreign locales could be throwing down cash in Trump's favor.
"There's no reason why somehow the price that emerges from their activity with each other is going to generate an accurate forecast," Sethi said.

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Easy money for SBGold. You can then buy some time and actually notice 50 of your last 50 posts had to be moderated.
My point has been made. Meet up at Randy's next week? I'll get you a donut

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oski003
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SBGold said:

oski003 said:

SBGold said:

Some experts have expressed concern over the potential for odds pushed by these platforms to muddy electoral waters with forecasts based on perceived investment opportunities rather than a wider view of political developments. The flow of money, particularly from foreign entities, can skew the results.
Polymarket, itself the world's largest prediction market, has come under particular scrutiny, after it was revealed a single French national had bet more than $45 million on a Trump victory, pushing the Republican candidate's odds as high as 66%.

The site has nevertheless received ringing endorsement from Trump's most vocal and arguably most controversial backer, Elon Musk, who has praised prediction markets for being "more accurate than [traditional] polls, as actual money is on the line."

Billionaire investor and long-time Trump critic Mark Cuban, by contrast, has taken aim at the site, pointing out that American citizens are technically prohibited from trading on the platform, and that "foreign money" is an unreliable predictor of the course of political events in the US.
The video player is currently playing an ad.

Rajiv Sethi, an economist at Columbia University's Barnard College, also warned in an interview with Bloomberg that deep-pocketed gamblers from foreign locales could be throwing down cash in Trump's favor.
"There's no reason why somehow the price that emerges from their activity with each other is going to generate an accurate forecast," Sethi said.

VOTE BLUE
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Easy money for SBGold. You can then buy some time and actually notice 50 of your last 50 posts had to be moderated.
My point has been made. Meet up at Randy's next week? I'll get you a donut

VOTE BLUE


If Trump wins, Randy's will be burned down, and you will have moved to Canada. Regardless, I don't eat donuts. I do appreciate the offer.
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The nice thing about democracy is that I get as many votes as Elon Musk does.

The betting markets are moved by high rollers and the market makers who may have more information or influence than I do but in the end they don't represent the electorate very well.

Don't put any stock in what those markets are doing.

DiabloWags
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dimitrig said:


The nice thing about democracy is that I get as many votes as Elon Musk does.

The betting markets are moved by high rollers and the market makers who may have more information or influence than I do but in the end they don't represent the electorate very well.

Don't put any stock in what those markets are doing.



Polymarket is barred from letting anyone in the United States use the platform to place bets.
Some here, are clearly unaware of this.

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
dimitrig
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DiabloWags said:

dimitrig said:


The nice thing about democracy is that I get as many votes as Elon Musk does.

The betting markets are moved by high rollers and the market makers who may have more information or influence than I do but in the end they don't represent the electorate very well.

Don't put any stock in what those markets are doing.



Polymarket is barred from letting anyone in the United States use the platform to place bets.



I am sure there are ways around that but that isn't really my point.

A bunch of gamblers aren't the ones who are going to be deciding who the next President will be no matter how much they bet.

DiabloWags
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dimitrig said:


I am sure there are ways around that but that isn't really my point.

A bunch of gamblers aren't the ones who are going to be deciding who the next President will be no matter how much they bet.


Ummm.... no one ever said they had that power.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
dimitrig
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DiabloWags said:

dimitrig said:


I am sure there are ways around that but that isn't really my point.

A bunch of gamblers aren't the ones who are going to be deciding who the next President will be no matter how much they bet.


Ummm.... no one ever said they had that power.



So why are people trying to use them as a predictor?
oski003
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dimitrig said:

DiabloWags said:

dimitrig said:


I am sure there are ways around that but that isn't really my point.

A bunch of gamblers aren't the ones who are going to be deciding who the next President will be no matter how much they bet.


Ummm.... no one ever said they had that power.



So why are people trying to use them as a predictor?



Only people that use common sense are trying to use them as a predictor. A lot of folks here don't use common sense, and their biases blind them.
SBGold
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DiabloWags said:

dimitrig said:


The nice thing about democracy is that I get as many votes as Elon Musk does.

The betting markets are moved by high rollers and the market makers who may have more information or influence than I do but in the end they don't represent the electorate very well.

Don't put any stock in what those markets are doing.



Polymarket is barred from letting anyone in the United States use the platform to place bets.
Some here, are clearly unaware of this.


I informed of this earlier today on BI, I was ridiculed.

Not anymore.

Disinformation coming from the foreign adversaries and being spread by BI MAGAts, no thanks

[url=https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/politics/fake-georgia-voting-video-russian-disinformation/index.html][/url][url=https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/politics/fake-georgia-voting-video-russian-disinformation/index.html][/url][url=https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/politics/fake-georgia-voting-video-russian-disinformation/index.html][/url]https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/04/politics/fake-georgia-voting-video-russian-disinformation/index.html

It's part of the MAGAt playbook, intel agencies doing a lot of warning about this.

Don't buy into disinformation.

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Eastern Oregon Bear
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dimitrig said:

DiabloWags said:

dimitrig said:


I am sure there are ways around that but that isn't really my point.

A bunch of gamblers aren't the ones who are going to be deciding who the next President will be no matter how much they bet.


Ummm.... no one ever said they had that power.



So why are people trying to use them as a predictor?

Because in their minds, it's giving them a prediction they desperately want to be correct.
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