A lot of people want to bring Obama-era insiders back for party building purposes.

While those folks ran successful presidential campaigns, they also oversaw some of the largest downballot losses in modern times.

Party building is different. Look to people w/ recent successes.

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) November 16, 2024

Newsom-AOC Democratic ticket for 2028?

Yikes just saw some damning information that confirms my suspicions democrats did not even try to win. If I was a democrat I would be calling "tea party" style changes from the top down immediately. Yikes like wow they sabotaged themselves. For example deep down most of those in control of the democrat party subconsciously wanted trump especially those higher ups in the campaign.

Trump won because the democrats helped push him over

going4roses said:

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Yikes just saw some damning information that confirms my suspicions democrats did not even try to win. If I was a democrat I would be calling "tea party" style changes from the top down immediately. Yikes like wow they sabotaged themselves like deep down most if those in control of the democrat party wanted to trump especially those higher ups in the campaign.

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What information and where did you see it?

Can't reveal my source they did some contract work for the campaign. Communication from strategist clearly showed a disconnect/lack of understanding of the true landscape of America. Not overly but clearly complicit from my perspective.

tequila4kapp said:

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going4roses said:

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Yikes just saw some damning information that confirms my suspicions democrats did not even try to win. If I was a democrat I would be calling "tea party" style changes from the top down immediately. Yikes like wow they sabotaged themselves like deep down most if those in control of the democrat party wanted to trump especially those higher ups in the campaign.

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This is the single most absurd thing I have ever read in my life.

There may have been intra party angling between factions - Obama people vs. Biden people vs. Harris people type thing - but there is Z E R O chance of widespread Democratic power broker preference for Trump winning.

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Ever ? Ever ? Ever in your whole life yikes lol
Did I say widespread ? Nope but it's ok I'm not a democrat lol between who and who and who ? lol Now that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life (it's not really but it's definitely comedy) .

going4roses said:

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Can't reveal my source they did some contract work for the campaign. Communication from strategist clearly showed a disconnect/lack of understanding of the true landscape of America. Not overly but clearly complicit from my perspective.

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Having bad campaign strategy doesn't prove that they weren't "trying" to win. Plenty of bad sports teams are trying to win but still lose.

I hear you but I don't see this situation being that. A lot of people were paid good money to win not help the other team.

You are totally missing it . It's cool have a great day

going4roses said:

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Yikes just saw some damning information that confirms my suspicions democrats did not even try to win. If I was a democrat I would be calling "tea party" style changes from the top down immediately. Yikes like wow they sabotaged themselves like deep down most if those in control of the democrat party wanted to trump especially those higher ups in the campaign.

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I think you're referring specifically to the rift between the Biden White House and the Kamala campaign? The DNC went all in and overthrew Biden after he won the Democratic primaries.

I loved when Dementia Biden threw sand in the gears.

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I loved when Dementia Biden threw sand in the gears.

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This is just sad!pic.twitter.com/NVFNXgcfTX

— Defiant L’s (@DefiantLs) November 20, 2024

It's all a psyop, nothing is what it really seems.

No and no and no …. Those names are all in the same boat. Difference in policy was minimal the power aka the wealth in the Democratic Party aligned more with wealthy conservatives than the regular joe. For example an ultra wealth progressive is a neo liberal cosplaying a republican. Only way democrats will have chance is becoming the power for the people party …not socialism but a level playing Field based on what's wrong is wrong and that which is wrong is fixed no excuses

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going4roses said:

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I hear you but I don't see this situation being that. A lot of people were paid good money to win not help the other team.

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Justin Wilcox gets paid a lot of money to win and often helps the other team.

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Dems are like Cal football

VOTE BLUE

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You had a billion and a half dollars and a smexy girl

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what is a smexy girl? Sounds misogynistic, sexist and racist. The trifecta for Repugs

VOTE BLUE

going4roses said:

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No and no and no …. Those names are all in the same boat. Difference in policy was minimal the power aka the wealth in the Democratic Party aligned more with wealthy conservatives than the regular joe. For example an ultra wealth progressive is a neo liberal cosplaying a republican. Only way democrats will have chance is becoming the power for the people party …not socialism but a level playing Field based on what's wrong is wrong and that which is wrong is fixed no excuses

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Except Progs already ceded the middle / working class to Trump / MAGA. The idiot HRC believed the academic extremists who said they could abandon them for POC.

HRC staff actually wrote out the insults:

""Basket of deplorables" by Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton on September 9, 2016. She used the phrase to describe "half" of the supporters of DJT, saying they're "racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamophobic".

The next day, she expressed regret for "saying half", so she doubled down.

The Progs are now war-mongering neocons, and count the Billionaire Tech Bros and illegal immigrants / welfare class as their bifurcated base.

You were there but you didn't see it though lol

going4roses said:

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No and no and no …. Those names are all in the same boat. Difference in policy was minimal the power aka the wealth in the Democratic Party aligned more with wealthy conservatives than the regular joe. For example an ultra wealth progressive is a neo liberal cosplaying a republican. Only way democrats will have chance is becoming the power for the people party …not socialism but a level playing Field based on what's wrong is wrong and that which is wrong is fixed no excuses

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Under the Republicans it's dog eat dog. Under the Democrats the reverse is true

3rd option. MAGA and MAHA.