Kimberly Strassel: Trump's Matt Gaetz Fugue

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DiabloWags
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She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.
Big C
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How shall we define "conservative" these days?
Anarchistbear
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Big C said:


How shall we define "conservative" these days?


Democrat Party Presidential candidate
DiabloWags
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.


You're so out of touch.
Seriously.
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.

You're so out of touch.
Seriously.


That's something that someone who is really out of touch would say.

Quote:

Even staunch Trump supporter Kimberly Strassel at the uber conservative Rupert Murdoch owned WSJ hates the Gaetz appointment.

Duh.

WSJ is neocon central, like most Murdoch outlets. It caters to an affluent older demographic from blue/coastal cities, a demographic that is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream.
BearGoggles
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.

You're so out of touch.
Seriously.


That's something that someone who is really out of touch would say.

Quote:

Even staunch Trump supporter Kimberly Strassel at the uber conservative Rupert Murdoch owned WSJ hates the Gaetz appointment.

Duh.

WSJ is neocon central, like most Murdoch outlets. It caters to an affluent older demographic from blue/coastal cities, a demographic that is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream.
Except Kimberley Strassel, the person we're actually talking about in this thread, is not in any way fairly characterized as a neocon warmonger.

Gaetz is a bad nomination because: (i) he's not a good person; (ii) he's not well liked among his fellow republicans; (iii) it is going to be a big distraction; and (iv) it is not how Trump should be spending (wasting) his political capital. There are many other trump loyalists that could have been nominated and would be easily confirmed.




bear2034
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BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.

You're so out of touch.
Seriously.


That's something that someone who is really out of touch would say.

Quote:

Even staunch Trump supporter Kimberly Strassel at the uber conservative Rupert Murdoch owned WSJ hates the Gaetz appointment.

Duh.

WSJ is neocon central, like most Murdoch outlets. It caters to an affluent older demographic from blue/coastal cities, a demographic that is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream.
Except Kimberley Strassel, the person we're actually talking about in this thread, is not in any way fairly characterized as a neocon warmonger.

Gaetz is a bad nomination because: (i) he's not a good person; (ii) he's not well liked among his fellow republicans; (iii) it is going to be a big distraction; and (iv) it is not how Trump should be spending (wasting) his political capital. There are many other trump loyalists that could have been nominated and would be easily confirmed.

Other than Ken Paxton or Mike Davis, I can't think of anyone else. Matt Gaetz is perfect for the job.
SBGold
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bear2034 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.

You're so out of touch.
Seriously.


That's something that someone who is really out of touch would say.

Quote:

Even staunch Trump supporter Kimberly Strassel at the uber conservative Rupert Murdoch owned WSJ hates the Gaetz appointment.

Duh.

WSJ is neocon central, like most Murdoch outlets. It caters to an affluent older demographic from blue/coastal cities, a demographic that is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream.
Except Kimberley Strassel, the person we're actually talking about in this thread, is not in any way fairly characterized as a neocon warmonger.

Gaetz is a bad nomination because: (i) he's not a good person; (ii) he's not well liked among his fellow republicans; (iii) it is going to be a big distraction; and (iv) it is not how Trump should be spending (wasting) his political capital. There are many other trump loyalists that could have been nominated and would be easily confirmed.

Other than Ken Paxton or Mike Davis, I can't think of anyone else. Matt Gaetz is perfect for the job.
All those a z z holls are not appointable for the role

VOTE BLUE
DiabloWags
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bear2034 said:



Other than Ken Paxton or Mike Davis, I can't think of anyone else. Matt Gaetz is perfect for the job.

I'll just mark this quote for future reference.
lol

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
wc22
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Gaetz has the support one of the most high character persons in Washington:

Gaetz is hated by many Republicans because he wants to prosecute them:

Gaetz is anti-Corporate and would go after big business:

https://www.leefang.com/p/the-populist-progressive-case-for

"From his perch on the House Judiciary Committee, Gaetz has promoted a surprisingly consumer-friendly agenda, routinely breaking with his GOP colleagues on crucial votes. He previously supported legislative measures to break up Silicon Valley monopolies, sharply regulate the online data broker industry, ban noncompete employment contracts, and an end to the practice of forced arbitration, among other corporate accountability votes. He has also taken maverick positions on reducing FBI surveillance powers, cutting certain arms supplies to Saudi Arabia and legalizing marijuana."
BearGoggles
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bear2034 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.

You're so out of touch.
Seriously.


That's something that someone who is really out of touch would say.

Quote:

Even staunch Trump supporter Kimberly Strassel at the uber conservative Rupert Murdoch owned WSJ hates the Gaetz appointment.

Duh.

WSJ is neocon central, like most Murdoch outlets. It caters to an affluent older demographic from blue/coastal cities, a demographic that is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream.
Except Kimberley Strassel, the person we're actually talking about in this thread, is not in any way fairly characterized as a neocon warmonger.

Gaetz is a bad nomination because: (i) he's not a good person; (ii) he's not well liked among his fellow republicans; (iii) it is going to be a big distraction; and (iv) it is not how Trump should be spending (wasting) his political capital. There are many other trump loyalists that could have been nominated and would be easily confirmed.

Other than Ken Paxton or Mike Davis, I can't think of anyone else. Matt Gaetz is perfect for the job.
Mike Lee. Kash Patel. Ted Cruz. John Ratcliffe. Tom Cotton. Lots of other good choices who don't have Gaetz baggage and exceed his abilities.
concordtom
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BearGoggles said:

Mike Lee. Kash Patel. Ted Cruz. John Ratcliffe. Tom Cotton. Lots of other good choices who don't have Gaetz baggage and exceed his abilities.


Trump simply likes flamethrowers.
It riles up haters, and once he captures their emotions he can own them.
HawaiiBear33
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wc22 said:

Gaetz has the support one of the most high character persons in Washington:

Gaetz is hated by many Republicans because he wants to prosecute them:

Gaetz is anti-Corporate and would go after big business:

https://www.leefang.com/p/the-populist-progressive-case-for

"From his perch on the House Judiciary Committee, Gaetz has promoted a surprisingly consumer-friendly agenda, routinely breaking with his GOP colleagues on crucial votes. He previously supported legislative measures to break up Silicon Valley monopolies, sharply regulate the online data broker industry, ban noncompete employment contracts, and an end to the practice of forced arbitration, among other corporate accountability votes. He has also taken maverick positions on reducing FBI surveillance powers, cutting certain arms supplies to Saudi Arabia and legalizing marijuana."


Yup. More false smears from the corrupt


bear2034
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BearGoggles said:

bear2034 said:

BearGoggles said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

She is literally the most conservative editorialist at the WSJ and has been a staunch Trump supporter.
But even she has a big problem with Matt Gaetz as attorney general.

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trumps-matt-gaetz-fugue-president-elect-crosses-thin-line-separating-bravery-from-foolishness-be25a6fe?st=MAD62Y&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

There are no conservatives at the WSJ, only RINOs and Boomercons.

You're so out of touch.
Seriously.


That's something that someone who is really out of touch would say.

Quote:

Even staunch Trump supporter Kimberly Strassel at the uber conservative Rupert Murdoch owned WSJ hates the Gaetz appointment.

Duh.

WSJ is neocon central, like most Murdoch outlets. It caters to an affluent older demographic from blue/coastal cities, a demographic that is increasingly out of touch with the mainstream.
Except Kimberley Strassel, the person we're actually talking about in this thread, is not in any way fairly characterized as a neocon warmonger.

Gaetz is a bad nomination because: (i) he's not a good person; (ii) he's not well liked among his fellow republicans; (iii) it is going to be a big distraction; and (iv) it is not how Trump should be spending (wasting) his political capital. There are many other trump loyalists that could have been nominated and would be easily confirmed.

Other than Ken Paxton or Mike Davis, I can't think of anyone else. Matt Gaetz is perfect for the job.
Mike Lee. Kash Patel. Ted Cruz. John Ratcliffe. Tom Cotton. Lots of other good choices who don't have Gaetz baggage and exceed his abilities.

Hopefully, Kash Patel becomes the new FBI Director.

BearGoggles
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HawaiiBear33 said:

wc22 said:

Gaetz has the support one of the most high character persons in Washington:

Gaetz is hated by many Republicans because he wants to prosecute them:

Gaetz is anti-Corporate and would go after big business:

https://www.leefang.com/p/the-populist-progressive-case-for

"From his perch on the House Judiciary Committee, Gaetz has promoted a surprisingly consumer-friendly agenda, routinely breaking with his GOP colleagues on crucial votes. He previously supported legislative measures to break up Silicon Valley monopolies, sharply regulate the online data broker industry, ban noncompete employment contracts, and an end to the practice of forced arbitration, among other corporate accountability votes. He has also taken maverick positions on reducing FBI surveillance powers, cutting certain arms supplies to Saudi Arabia and legalizing marijuana."


Yup. More false smears from the corrupt



If the claims are weak, why not release the report? Shouldn't that exonerate him? Gaetz could request the release of the report, but he has not.
bear2034
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BearGoggles said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

wc22 said:

Gaetz has the support one of the most high character persons in Washington:

Gaetz is hated by many Republicans because he wants to prosecute them:

Gaetz is anti-Corporate and would go after big business:

https://www.leefang.com/p/the-populist-progressive-case-for

"From his perch on the House Judiciary Committee, Gaetz has promoted a surprisingly consumer-friendly agenda, routinely breaking with his GOP colleagues on crucial votes. He previously supported legislative measures to break up Silicon Valley monopolies, sharply regulate the online data broker industry, ban noncompete employment contracts, and an end to the practice of forced arbitration, among other corporate accountability votes. He has also taken maverick positions on reducing FBI surveillance powers, cutting certain arms supplies to Saudi Arabia and legalizing marijuana."


Yup. More false smears from the corrupt



If the claims are weak, why not release the report? Shouldn't that exonerate him? Gaetz could request the release of the report, but he has not.

The Biden DOJ exonerated Gaetz of criminal wrongdoing and dropped the charges in February 2023 for reasons listed in the tweet above, in short, the accusations were BS. The Ethics Committee revived the allegations again after he became Trump's nominee. Why would Gaetz request the release of a report based on junk allegations?
bear2034
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Sonny Hostin looks like she's reading a hostage letter.
tequila4kapp
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It's super easy to miss things because we have to open embedded X tweets.

Charlie Kirk, FWIW:

The (House Ethics) "report" comes YEARS after DOJ dropped its investigation into the same claims. Why did the DOJ drop the investigation? Because the claims hinge on the testimony of two witnesses who have such gaping credibility issues, that even the DOJ, which hates Gaetz, knew no jury would ever convict him.

Who are these witnesses?

1) Joel Greenberg, who has been described as "one of the most corrupt Florida politicians of all time" and who has literally made false sex allegations against a politician before! He accused an innocent school teacher who was running against him for tax-collector of having sex with an underaged student. Sound familiar? A judge called the lies "downright evil."

2) Greenberg became embroiled in a series of crimes and faced a possible 27 years in federal prison. One of these crimes was having sex with an underage minor, the same 17-year-old who is the central character in the claims against Gaetz. BUT, even Greenberg claims he didn't know she was underage because she LIED about her age! She is now active on OnlyFans, selling sexual access for money, and has appeared in porn videos. Go figure.

According to a 2023 lawsuit, Greenberg repeatedly begged Gaetz to secure a pardon for him, and when Gaetz refused, Greenberg vowed vengeance.

An inmate who shared a cell with Greenberg told two federal agents that Greenberg told him that the woman "would be willing to adopt Greenberg's lie in hopes of a future financial benefit." Greenberg admitted to paying the woman's legal bills in a text to a friend!

Yes this is all ridiculous. Yes it is all clearly contrived lies. Will the media still use it to tar and feather Gaetz? Absolutely. Geatz has made a career of picking fights no one else in Washington had the stomach to pick. They fear him at the DOJ more than anyone.

And that's exactly why we need him running the Department of Justicehe's the only one with the guts to fight the most important fights at the DOJ and root out the corruption we've seen on full display these last 8 years.
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I want to see Gaetz confirmed. Republicans deserve it.

wc22
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dimitrig said:


I want to see Gaetz confirmed. Republicans deserve it.


One issue Gaetz is very good on is the rampant insider trading and economic conflicts of interest in Congress. It is probably why he is so unliked inside his party. I would expect if he does get confirmed both R's and D's are going to get indicted, which is a very good thing.
DiabloWags
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BearGoggles said:



If the claims are weak, why not release the report? Shouldn't that exonerate him? Gaetz could request the release of the report, but he has not.

BINGO!
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
bear2034
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wc22 said:

dimitrig said:


I want to see Gaetz confirmed. Republicans deserve it.


One issue Gaetz is very good on is the rampant insider trading and economic conflicts of interest in Congress. It is probably why he is so unliked inside his party. I would expect if he does get confirmed both R's and D's are going to get indicted, which is a very good thing.

Gaetz also makes himself available for podcasts and MAGA online media when other Republicans don't.
DiabloWags
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Lmfao.

Buyer's remorse.

New York Post begs Trump to ditch 'dreadful duo' Tulsi Gabbard and Matt Gaetz
"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
Cal88
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Murdoch doesn't approve.
DiabloWags
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Cal88 said:

Murdoch doesn't approve.
You mean the guy that owns Faux News that worships Trump on their knees at every opportunity?
That Murdoch?

"Cults don't end well. They really don't."
Cal88
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DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

Murdoch doesn't approve.
You mean the guy that owns Faux News that worships Trump on their knees at every opportunity?
That Murdoch?


No, I am talking about the Murdoch that fired Tucker Carlson.

A lot of the Trump base doesn't see eye to eye with the Murdochs.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

Murdoch doesn't approve.
You mean the guy that owns Faux News that worships Trump on their knees at every opportunity?
That Murdoch?


No, I am talking about the Murdoch that fired Tucker Carlson.

A lot of the Trump base doesn't see eye to eye with the Murdochs.
Costing your employer 3/4 of a billion dollars does tend to reduce your job security despite what a portion of your audience might prefer.
Haloski
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Cal88 said:

DiabloWags said:

Cal88 said:

Murdoch doesn't approve.
You mean the guy that owns Faux News that worships Trump on their knees at every opportunity?
That Murdoch?


No, I am talking about the Murdoch that fired Tucker Carlson.

A lot of the Trump base doesn't see eye to eye with the Murdochs.


I feel like the fact that Cucker cost them almost one billion dollars probably played into it. It's not like they don't have other personalities who are identical to him otherwise without costing them a billion dollars due to their recklessness.
Haloski
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