The cut in nih indirect overhead (get ready for the same in nsf) if it stands will create a an 8 or even 9 figure hole in uc's budget. I can not over emphasis the risk to research universities if this moves forward.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/08/trump-nih-university-funding-014838

It's fine. trump, musk and the gop have our backs.

In their sights.

Just ignore the target they put there.

I'm tired of winning

Take all you bad attitudes down to showroom, and buy a Tesla.

socaltownie said:

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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/08/trump-nih-university-funding-014838

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This article was brought to you by Politico, funded through USAID, funded by taxpayer money, discovered and brought down by some guy named Big Balls.

Good, UC needs to stop being woke.

Politico is not funded by USAID. That's just propaganda brought to you by Elmo's far right.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/fact-check-did-white-house-pay-politico/amp/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/news-outlet-politico-got-dragged-120700040.html

okaydo said:

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Good, UC needs to stop being woke.

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Yes, it needs to be unburdened by what has been.

chazzed said:

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Politico is not funded by USAID. That's just propaganda brought to you by Elmo's far right.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/fact-check-did-white-house-pay-politico/amp/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/news-outlet-politico-got-dragged-120700040.html

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Propaganda nourishes his entire existence.

chazzed said:

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Politico is not funded by USAID. That's just propaganda brought to you by Elmo's far right.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/fact-check-did-white-house-pay-politico/amp/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/news-outlet-politico-got-dragged-120700040.html

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Seriously *** is he talking about?
Mods…come on now!
I've had far less political threads removed and even then the guy claiming "politico is funded by USAID" is parroting a proven lie propagated by a right wing extremist.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5130996-politico-government-subscription-usaid-musk-trump/amp/

calpoly said:

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socaltownie said:

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The cut in nih indirect overhead (get ready for the same in nsf) if it stands will create a an 8 or even 9 figure hole in uc's budget. I can not over emphasis the risk to research universities if this moves forward.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/08/trump-nih-university-funding-014838

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I would be surprised if this can be applied to existing contracts.

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Yes it does (or they are going to try)

socaltownie said:

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The cut in nih indirect overhead (get ready for the same in nsf) if it stands will create a an 8 or even 9 figure hole in uc's budget. I can not over emphasis the risk to research universities if this moves forward.

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Is this the same NIH that's supported by US taxpayers along with USAID that helped to fund EcoHealth Alliance that helped to fund gain of function research at the Wuhan Institute of Virology where the Covid-19 virus leak occurred?

CNHTH said:

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chazzed said:

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Politico is not funded by USAID. That's just propaganda brought to you by Elmo's far right.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/fact-check-did-white-house-pay-politico/amp/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/news-outlet-politico-got-dragged-120700040.html

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Seriously *** is he talking about?
Mods…come on now!
I've had far less political threads removed and even then the guy claiming "politico is funded by USAID" is parroting a proven lie propagated by a right wing extremist.

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Are we talking about the same Politico that broke the Hunter Biden laptop is Russian disinformation story?

it is an objective article. So do you support that haircut to overhead and do you understand the impact on cal?

If you bizarrely think politico is propaganda here is from inside higher ed.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/government/science-research-policy/2025/02/08/higher-ed-leaders-warn-dire-consequences-after

I do not know what cals nih indirect is. Figure 50% (so a decrease of 35%)

socaltownie said:

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calpoly said:

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socaltownie said:

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The cut in nih indirect overhead (get ready for the same in nsf) if it stands will create a an 8 or even 9 figure hole in uc's budget. I can not over emphasis the risk to research universities if this moves forward.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/08/trump-nih-university-funding-014838

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I would be surprised if this can be applied to existing contracts.

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Yes it does (or they are going to try)

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Of course they are going to try but these are signed contracts between the government and institutions. The indirect costs are negotiated between the government and the institution so I am sure this is headed to court.

BTW, it would be interesting to see what the indirect cost % is for space-x. I would bet it's much higher than 15%.

Goodness, why are you all arguing about Politico. Look it up any news source and the fact is real. Here is NPR:
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/08/g-s1-47383/nih-announces-new-funding-policy-that-rattles-medical-researchers

Woke? What the heck does biomedical research have to do with "woke"? This looks like it will have a huge blow to scientific research at all/most universities.

Sounds like the University system needs to do a rework on spending, crying on a forum is more entertaining though.

If you are curious about how indirect costs work, you can watch this short video:

Cal's indirect cost rate is about 62%. Trump is following Project 2025's playbook exactly by cutting the indirect cost rate for all universities to 15%. This would result in a loss of 10s of millions of dollars to Cal annually. This sudden loss of funds will devastate all research universities, research institutes and medical schools. It is likely that Trump will try to same thing for other federal funding agencies like NSF.

Here are some of the benefits of our country's investment in biomedical research through NIH.

Here you can see what NIH funding brings just to the state of California.

GoCal80 said:

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If you are curious about how indirect costs work, you can watch this short video:

Cal's indirect cost rate is about 62%. Trump is following Project 2025's playbook exactly by cutting the indirect cost rate for all universities to 15%. This would result in a loss of 10s of millions of dollars to Cal annually. This sudden loss of funds will devastate all research universities, research institutes and medical schools. It is likely that Trump will try to same thing for other federal funding agencies like NSF.

Here are some of the benefits of our country's investment in biomedical research through NIH.

Here you can see what NIH funding brings just to the state of California.

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Most universities being effected have huge endowments and so those should be shrinking to pay for any loss of revenue or rising costs.

This is a discussion about the University of California. When we talk about Munot State, we'll be in touch. You can tell us the best bars that don't card or whatever.

AunBear89 said:

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This is a discussion about the University of California. When we talk about Munot State, we'll be in touch. You can tell us the best bars that don't card or whatever.

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It's Minot, but you tried. But how effective are your attempts at controlling what I say? Let me know, k thx.

Feel free to say whatever stupid ish you like. Not like anyone pays attention to what you have to say.

AunBear89 said:

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Feel free to say whatever stupid ish you like. Not like anyone pays attention to what you have to say.

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You did.

MinotStateBeav said:

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Sounds like the University system needs to do a rework on spending, crying on a forum is more entertaining though.

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Perhaps. But since you say you care about cal athletics you should take action as well....cause they will crush the ad budget to close the gap

CNHTH said:

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chazzed said:

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Politico is not funded by USAID. That's just propaganda brought to you by Elmo's far right.

https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/fact-check-did-white-house-pay-politico/amp/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/news-outlet-politico-got-dragged-120700040.html

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Seriously *** is he talking about?
Mods…come on now!
I've had far less political threads removed and even then the guy claiming "politico is funded by USAID" is parroting a proven lie propagated by a right wing extremist.
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5130996-politico-government-subscription-usaid-musk-trump/amp/

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If you want this full-blast in your face every day, head on over to Off-Topic.

ferCALgm2 said:

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Goodness, why are you all arguing about Politico. Look it up any news source and the fact is real. Here is NPR:
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/08/g-s1-47383/nih-announces-new-funding-policy-that-rattles-medical-researchers

Woke? What the heck does biomedical research have to do with "woke"? This looks like it will have a huge blow to scientific research at all/most universities.

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Courtesy of the anti-science, Jewish space lasers-mongering, tin-foil-hat-wearing far right.

False about the large endowments. This will hit public universities mostly with minimal endowments, and medical schools, in red and blue states very hard, and even most privates with large endowments don't have endowment funds that can be rebudgeted

The key thing (especially of you live in a place with a republican house member) is to call. I will be monday