How came any sane person not want full audits?

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HawaiiBear33
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To be clear, what the @DOGE team and @USTreasury have jointly agreed makes sense is the following:

- Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible.

- All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!

- The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily.

The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from @DOGE. It is ridiculous that these changes didn't exist already!

Yesterday, I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.

When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!!

This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately.



Seriously please explain…
You don't believe any politicians steal?
You don't believe any politicians cheat?
You want democrats to continue stealing because you agree with their policies?
bear2034
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We always knew there was a cabal, we just didn't know how it was funded.
Eastern Oregon Bear
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HawaiiBear33 said:

To be clear, what the @DOGE team and @USTreasury have jointly agreed makes sense is the following:

- Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible.

- All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!

- The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily.

The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from @DOGE. It is ridiculous that these changes didn't exist already!

Yesterday, I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.

When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!!

This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately.



Seriously please explain…
You don't believe any politicians steal?
You don't believe any politicians cheat?
You want democrats to continue stealing because you agree with their policies?
My problem with audits is that I don't think Elon Musk and his 18-25 year old computer hacker DOGE Team are qualified to be conducting the auditing. I also think they'll be auditing the programs they don't like and not auditing pet projects like electric car subsidies and privatizing space travel subsidies.
tequila4kapp
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Okay but if what is coming out is remotely true our government is fundamentally broken. Incompetent administration of our agencies and their functions is non-partisan.
HawaiiBear33
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

To be clear, what the @DOGE team and @USTreasury have jointly agreed makes sense is the following:

- Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible.

- All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!

- The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily.

The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from @DOGE. It is ridiculous that these changes didn't exist already!

Yesterday, I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.

When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!!

This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately.



Seriously please explain…
You don't believe any politicians steal?
You don't believe any politicians cheat?
You want democrats to continue stealing because you agree with their policies?
My problem with audits is that I don't think Elon Musk and his 18-25 year old computer hacker DOGE Team are qualified to be conducting the auditing. I also think they'll be auditing the programs they don't like and not auditing pet projects like electric car subsidies and privatizing space travel subsidies.


Fair points that could be debated back and forth. But like T4K said who do you trust to do it. Anybody you are thinking of is likely part of the problem.


So your points are trivial.


More facts:


This is likely only the tip that has been exposed. There will be mind boggling evidence coming out.
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