What will we think when Trump legally controls the FEC?

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concordtom
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FEC = Federal Elections Commission

This article is a news item with dire consequences.

Trump signs order to claim power over independent agencies

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-signs-order-claim-power-013920824.html

President Donald Trump on Tuesday signed a sweeping executive order bringing independent agencies under the control of the White House an action that would greatly expand his power but is likely to attract significant legal challenges.

It represents Trump's latest attempt to consolidate power beyond boundaries other presidents have observed and to test the so-called unitary executive theory, which states that the president has the sole authority over the executive branch. And it reflects the influence of Russ Vought, Trump's budget chief, one of several conservatives in his orbit who have called for axing independent arms of the executive branch.

The theory was long considered fringe, and many mainstream legal scholars still believe it is illegal, given that Congress set the agencies up specifically to act independently, or semi-independently, from the president. These include the Federal Communications Commission, the Federal Trade Commission and the Securities and Exchange Commission, all of which enact regulations and can impose hefty fines on businesses that violate the rules.

Other presidents have not only declined to challenge the independence of these agencies in court, but have in many cases tried to avoid even the appearance of interference in their actions. Many leaders appointed to the agencies serve terms that last longer than a single presidency, in an effort to help shield them from political pressure.

The order would take that independence away by granting Vought, who reports to Trump, supervising power.

The executive order requires Vought, as the director of the Office of Management and Budget, to "establish performance standards and management objectives" for the heads of independent agencies and "report periodically to the President on their performance and efficiency in attaining such standards and objectives." It also requires Vought to review and make changes to the agencies' budgets "as necessary and appropriate, to advance the President's policies and priorities."

"For the Federal Government to be truly accountable to the American people, officials who wield vast executive power must be supervised and controlled by the people's elected President," the executive order states.

While the executive order is sweeping in nature and represents a fundamental reshaping of the federal government, it effectively codifies actions the Trump administration has already been taking, setting up the administration's legal position in an expected court fight. Trump has, for instance, already fired Gwynne Wilcox, former chair of the National Labor Relations Board, the NLRB's general counsel, Jennifer Abruzzo, and Office of Government Ethics Director David Huitema. Wilcox has filed a lawsuit contesting her dismissal.

And Vought, almost immediately upon taking office, assumed the title of acting director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, another independent agency, halting further funding to the agency and firing its employees en masse.

But the order has broad and potentially immediate implications for a host of other independent agencies that have not yet been penetrated by the administration. And while it doesn't apply to the Federal Reserve's handling of monetary policy, it does apply to the Fed's other responsibilities, including overseeing banks and other financial institutions.

Independent agencies often find themselves in the political crosshairs, either because they take actions that appear to align or conflict with a sitting president's agenda. Those include the SEC's efforts during the Biden era to force companies to disclose the risks they face from climate change, as well as the FCC's more recent actions to investigate companies such as CBS for alleged bias against Trump during the 2024 campaign.





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concordtom
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Who is Russ Vought?
He is 48, Wheaton College and GWU. Was director of OMB last two years of Trump1's term, just reconfirmed to same position, though Democrats really wanted him to Not. He's openly Christian Nationalist, for Radical Constitutionalism.

I'm finding this article to be illuminating. It explains how all his views are known.

Take some time to click and read it!

https://www.vox.com/on-the-right-newsletter/399940/trump-musk-russell-vought-radical-constitutionalism
concordtom
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Back to my point about the FEC…

Ellen Weintraub, Democrat, was summarily fired as Director of FEC, one of several. She could have legally been removed/replaced by nomination, senate approval, but instead someone disconnected her email and computer connection with the firing letter.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5134257-fec-commisioner-ouster-trump-options/amp/


THE BIG CONCERN IN THIS THREAD OF MINE:

It was warned years ago that Trump wants to be President for Life. He tried to cheat to steal in 2020, who knows how he did the same in 2024 (I mention only to say I'm sure he schemed, though to what level of success his illegal mind/ways were responsible for the win, and, yes, this speculation is beyond the point), and we shall see what he has planned for 2028. That will be when the true cards are revealed.

Yet, he appears to be stacking the deck now. What new laws and powers will he assume powers for such that we never see a free and fair election again?

It could be game over by the time the path is revealed.

Steve Bannon spoke openly in one publicized rant about how it'll be an onslaught bliztkrieg to start Trump2, and he's right. **** is changing so fast nobody can keep up. Trump can't think this fast, but Musk can (and he acts fast, too* see link below) while others, like Vaught, have developed their approach over time, leaving breadcrumbs (see above Vox story).

The initial story says Trump aims to take over the entirety of (government) the executive branch (near entirety of government, as he controls the GOP, which controls the legislation branch, and we all know about the Supreme Court).

I ask, "to what end?" !!!


It's one thing to observe Trump at work and rationalize that "it'll be over in no more than 4 years."
But to realize that he's going for a Capture the Flag move around our rear flank is ever more shocking.
By the time the blitz is over, it will be game over.


* for a fun diversionary story of Musk's impulsive style, read about him manically disconnecting a Twitter server farm in Sacramento on Christmas Eve: https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2023/09/11/elon-musk-moved-twitter-servers-himself-in-the-night-new-biography-details-his-maniacal-sense-of-urgency.html
Cal88
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We could see these kinds of much-needed reforms in the elections system:

Quote:

Election integrity
[edit]


Gabbard introduced the Securing America's Elections Act of 2018[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#cite_note-367][366][/url] to require voter-verified paper ballots in federal elections in case of any audit or recount, allow voters to verify and correct any errors before their permanent paper ballot is preserved for official government record; and establish voter-verified paper ballots as the correct record of votes cast if there were any inconsistencies or irregularities between electronic and paper vote tallies.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#cite_note-368][367][/url]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#Election_integrity
MinotStateBeav
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"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to target our political enemy, we goofed on that one."
AunBear89
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MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to enforce the laws that had been broken, when the other side believes they are above the law."


FIFY
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
Haloski
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MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to target our political enemy, we goofed on that one."


Totally get it.

Any actual thoughts on this, though?
MinotStateBeav
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Haloski said:

MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to target our political enemy, we goofed on that one."


Totally get it.

Any actual thoughts on this, though?
Yeah it's panicky rhetoric that isn't to be taken seriously
Haloski
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MinotStateBeav said:

Haloski said:

MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to target our political enemy, we goofed on that one."


Totally get it.

Any actual thoughts on this, though?
Yeah it's panicky rhetoric that isn't to be taken seriously


I sincerely hope you're correct.
AunBear89
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If he is, it will be a first.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
DiabloWags
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He's now executed yet another Executive Order to put the FCC, FTC, and SEC under the purview of the Executive Branch and OMB Director Russ Vought.

I'm sure this will get challenged in the courts.

But it makes one wonder how long before he tries to take CONTROL of an independent agency created by Congress like the Federal Reserve.

Trump signs order to claim power over independent agencies
concordtom
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MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to target our political enemy, we goofed on that one."


What the hell are you talking about.
The man IS a criminal!!!
You fail to see that and think the way to solve crime is more crime?

You don't even see what's happening here.

Germany did not get it either until their cities were in ruins.
concordtom
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AunBear89 said:

MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to enforce the laws that had been broken, when the other side believes they are above the law."


FIFY


Amen
concordtom
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MinotStateBeav said:

Haloski said:

MinotStateBeav said:

"Man, we really shouldn't have used the legal system to target our political enemy, we goofed on that one."


Totally get it.

Any actual thoughts on this, though?
Yeah it's panicky rhetoric that isn't to be taken seriously


Pfft. Right.
When was the last time I took you seriously?
concordtom
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DiabloWags said:

He's now executed yet another Executive Order to put the FCC, FTC, and SEC under the purview of the Executive Branch and OMB Director Russ Vought.

I'm sure this will get challenged in the courts.

But it makes one wonder how long before he tries to take CONTROL of an independent agency created by Congress like the Federal Reserve.

Trump signs order to claim power over independent agencies



Exactly.
Or the FEC.
Gabbards quote above would evolve, I presume, into some federal control over state election results.
It's all geared towards maintaining control in the future.

Please, everyone, re-read the title of this thread. Once he/they have control of every aspect of government control how will it be wrested from them???



Ironic, no?
concordtom
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Cal88 said:

We could see these kinds of much-needed reforms in the elections system:

Quote:

Election integrity
[edit]


Gabbard introduced the Securing America's Elections Act of 2018[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#cite_note-367][366][/url] to require voter-verified paper ballots in federal elections in case of any audit or recount, allow voters to verify and correct any errors before their permanent paper ballot is preserved for official government record; and establish voter-verified paper ballots as the correct record of votes cast if there were any inconsistencies or irregularities between electronic and paper vote tallies.[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#cite_note-368][367][/url]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Tulsi_Gabbard#Election_integrity


Normally such changes would be negotiated by bipartisan working group in conference over a time period.

Instead, one group is going to wrest control and make the changes they envision.

Unfortunately, the person heading this up is a lifetime cheat, scoundrel, who has said openly he wants President for Life.

You'll wake up, when it's too late.


The Founding Fathers very carefully debated and created a system which involved checks and balances. That is all being wiped out.

Money buys mindsets, through propaganda on news and social media outlets, which they've bought.
Mindsets buys votes.
Wiping out the competition by seizing the election process, which will be seen in coming months/years is next.

You don't think there are playing this game to one day give back control to Mexicans and Muslims and bisexuals, do you?

White Christian Nationalists, led by billionaires.
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