Russia is not innocent but we started the war

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HawaiiBear33
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These statements should be easy for you to verify even with your propaganda msm:



If you still believe that Russia started this conflict in 2022, then you are either corrupt, ignorant, or brainwashed.

If you don't know who Victoria Nuland is, or what she was doing in Ukraine in 2014, then you have no idea what's going on.

The Deep State started this war. It was the Obama CIA/State Dept that funded Nazi militant groups to start a civil war in Ukraine, and initiated regime change to a CIA/State Dept puppet, Yatseniuk.

This was all revealed in the leaked phone call between State Dept diplomats and Deep State agents, Victoria Nuland and Geoffrey Pyatt (link in next post).

After the Maidan coup in February 2014, the US CIA/State Dept owned Ukraine via proxy, and the CIA began using Ukraine as a giant offshore playground for criminal racketeering and money laundering. Ukraine became one giant CIA base, directly on Russia's border.

Then the US/NATO began building up Ukraine's army for the sole purpose of one day fighting Russia. The US/NATO began supplying Ukraine with weapons, equipment, missiles, training, intelligence, etc.

Covert elements within the US government, along with their European partners in NATO, used espionage to overthrow and take control of the nation of Ukraine, then built a massive standing army on Russia's border, then tried to bring Ukraine into NATO, and thus start WW3.

If you are still buying the official MSM narrative about this conflict, you should not be engaged in conversations.

Everything the MSM told you about Ukraine/Russia has been a lie, and in many cases, the inverse of the truth.
bearister
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Your position anchors you to trusting Putin and Trump. What is the basis of trusting either?

Based on their track records, they have littered the trail with the broken hearts (and sometimes bodies) of those that were foolish enough to trust them.

No morals. No ethics. No honor.

*You may want to read Putin's own words to develop an understanding of his world view and motivations.
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Haloski
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That's great and everything, but Russia invaded Ukraine. Thanks for copying and pasting, though.
HawaiiBear33
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This probably describes a lot of you. You must see some of the BS the media spews but you keep believing
HawaiiBear33
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Haloski said:

That's great and everything, but Russia invaded Ukraine. Thanks for copying and pasting, though.


So do you want us to put American soldiers on the ground like Z is demanding?
HawaiiBear33
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Starmer says yes for UK
Haloski
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HawaiiBear33 said:

Haloski said:

That's great and everything, but Russia invaded Ukraine. Thanks for copying and pasting, though.


So do you want us to put American soldiers on the ground like Z is demanding?


No, but I'm not stupid enough to think that Russia isn't to blame here. GTFO of here with that nonsense.

Anyway, have a fun night of copy and paste! Bye!
Haloski
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HawaiiBear33 said:



This probably describes a lot of you. You must see some of the BS the media spews but you keep believing


Is Ian Miles Cheong still posting from a basement in Singapore or something like that?
Big C
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Haloski said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

Haloski said:

That's great and everything, but Russia invaded Ukraine. Thanks for copying and pasting, though.


So do you want us to put American soldiers on the ground like Z is demanding?


No, but I'm not stupid enough to think that Russia isn't to blame here. GTFO of here with that nonsense.

Anyway, have a fun night of copy and paste! Bye!

Seriously. These people... almost hard to believe. Fine to doubt whether US motives are pure. Fine to not believing the powers that be in Ukraine are 100% virtuous. But Putin, c'mon: he's a bad guy and he's the one mostly at fault here.
HawaiiBear33
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3-4 min of common sense. Too bad you've been programmed to refuse to watch anything on X and anything that goes against your narrative.

Did you read the copy and paste from the first post? Do you refute any of it?
MinotStateBeav
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This is un freaking believable...
https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/tony-shaffer-ukraine-trump/2025/03/02/id/120103

From the article..

The White House and Ukraine are involved in a "battle of dueling narratives" over Ukraine's minerals deal, considering that three days before President Donald Trump's inauguration, the British signed an agreement with Ukraine that includes rights to the resources, retired U.S. Army Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer told Newsmax Sunday.
"This is on the British U.K. website," Shaffer, the president of Project Sentinel, told Newsmax's "Wake Up America Weekend." "Ukraine and the U.K. signed a 100-year deal over security guarantees and economic development."

Shaffer said he believes the strong words toward Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy Friday in the Oval Office were the result of President Donald Trump and his team finding out "they were being played."

"We, the United States, are trying to be signed up to a deal that we provide security guarantees for an economic development deal that [British Prime Minister] Keir Starmer has already signed them up to do," said Shaffer. "So the first thing it has to do is people have to take a step back and be honest with what's really going on."

British Deal is on their website

Edit: this guy talks about it too
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