dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care.
DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care.
Please let us all know when you get to the point where you've accumulated some wealth and you're willing to be taxed on it. Because it's always real easy to vote on how other people's money should be taxed when it doesn't impact you.
dajo9 said:DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care.
Please let us all know when you get to the point where you've accumulated some wealth and you're willing to be taxed on it. Because it's always real easy to vote on how other people's money should be taxed when it doesn't impact you.
You quoted 2 simple sentences and your comprehension was a fail. Spectacular.
DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:DiabloWags said:dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care.
Please let us all know when you get to the point where you've accumulated some wealth and you're willing to be taxed on it. Because it's always real easy to vote on how other people's money should be taxed when it doesn't impact you.
You quoted 2 simple sentences and your comprehension was a fail. Spectacular.
I try to dumb it down for a liberal that praises the likes of Paul Krugman and Robert Reich.
And who can't read a chart on 10-year yields.
You're welcome.
going4roses said:
This is where democrats leadership continues to drop the ball. Honestly they have been bs ing since the southern strategy/ Lee Atwater. Whoever though Harris could beat trump in this climate was not reading the room correctly, Honestly they still don't get it still too many democrats are masquerading neo liberals. Stop playing games find one issue drive it home. The democratic presidential election was out of touch … lacking leadership has that changed?
Only way Dems win is being the party of the people. Take a stand stop playing the lobby/money game go balls to wall hard correction …. Gotta make make white's middle/poor class chose themselves and this country over their race.
In order to change policy we have to first change minds…
going4roses said:
Honestly a fluke. Focus on the 50-60 million bigots that voted for trump.
Be concerned about what is next what can be achieved/corrected.
dajo9 said:
Why did Joe Biden win in 2020?
concordtom said:going4roses said:
Honestly a fluke. Focus on the 50-60 million bigots that voted for trump.
Be concerned about what is next what can be achieved/corrected.
There's a healthy dose of Truth here.
People probably vote for Identity more than Economics.
Like, there's surely a ton of people who would rather sit around a pot of stew with their kinfolk than be living it up with strangers - if you catch my drift.
dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care. If dumb, poor, uneducated Americans want to vote to make me more rich and keep themselves poor, well then that's their choice.
wifeisafurd said:dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care. If dumb, poor, uneducated Americans want to vote to make me more rich and keep themselves poor, well then that's their choice.
You can give money to the federal government, primarily through donations to reduce the public debt or, in some cases, to support specific government programs. The Bureau of the Fiscal Service, a part of the U.S. Treasury Department, accepts voluntary financial contributions and these can be made electronically or by mail. Shall I send you a link? The problem is you never put your money where your mouth is.
Hey Mr. Vote Blue - can I send the link to you? Maybe you can pass it on to those Dems who don't wan't the tax benefits?
concordtom said:going4roses said:
Honestly a fluke. Focus on the 50-60 million bigots that voted for trump.
Be concerned about what is next what can be achieved/corrected.
There's a healthy dose of Truth here.
People probably vote for Identity more than Economics.
Like, there's surely a ton of people who would rather sit around a pot of stew with their kinfolk than be living it up with strangers - if you catch my drift.
Team affiliations rule.
Look at all the hapless losers who return to the Growls page year after year!!
It's human psychology.
Tribe.
And off that idea, there's even a book by that title. It talks about how strangers will indoctrinate themselves into a Tribe, a band of brothers, and go kill, be killed, and even sacrifice themselves for their tribe. It's evolutionarily instinctive in us! And professional groups will brainwash you to be in their tribe!
Church (of most any religion)
The Army
Apple computer (sorry, stepmom worked their in the early 80's - cult-like following!)
tequila4kapp said:
I believe there was a story last week about the government arranging it so they can receive payments via Venmo and PayPal to make it easier for those who want to contribute more to lower the debt.
SBGold said:
I've seen the link. I would contribute but why would I trust this admin and GOP majority to do the right things with it? I'm not subsidizing Alligator Alcatraz or Trump golf games (where he cheats). Send me the Cal NIL link though
Do better MAGAts.
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bearister said:tequila4kapp said:
I believe there was a story last week about the government arranging it so they can receive payments via Venmo and PayPal to make it easier for those who want to contribute more to lower the debt.
Were those the platforms used by Paramount Global and Skydance Media to transfer the $36,000,000?
dajo9 said:
Trump beat Hillary and Harris and lost to Biden even though Hillary and Harris both ran better (though different) campaigns and both had better policies for average Americans.
Trump got the white supremacist and greedy vote in 3 elections. He got the sexist vote in 2 elections.
dajo9 said:wifeisafurd said:dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care. If dumb, poor, uneducated Americans want to vote to make me more rich and keep themselves poor, well then that's their choice.
You can give money to the federal government, primarily through donations to reduce the public debt or, in some cases, to support specific government programs. The Bureau of the Fiscal Service, a part of the U.S. Treasury Department, accepts voluntary financial contributions and these can be made electronically or by mail. Shall I send you a link? The problem is you never put your money where your mouth is.
Hey Mr. Vote Blue - can I send the link to you? Maybe you can pass it on to those Dems who don't wan't the tax benefits?
I'm sorry you pretend to not understand how liberalism works to all pitch in together and all benefit together but somehow I dont think you want to run a candidate to oppose social security and Medicare so something tells me you are being dishonest in your response.
SBGold said:
https://apple.news/AF5tnj397T9unPOZB-DURdw
At some point, to benefit while crushing others less fortunate feels wrong and should not be the focus.
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wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://apple.news/AF5tnj397T9unPOZB-DURdw
At some point, to benefit while crushing others less fortunate feels wrong and should not be the focus.
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
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can you examine how rich Democrats will have lower taxes from the new tax bill than they pay now/
going4roses said:
Honestly a fluke. Focus on the 50-60 million bigots that voted for trump.
Be concerned about what is next what can be achieved/corrected.
wifeisafurd said:
Per Statistica, over 40% of the households in the US pay no federal income tax, and very few of those households are the super wealthy. About 30% of those filling tax returns don't pay income tax, again almost all those filers are low income taxpayers. Government projections estimate a decline in the percentage of non-payers in the coming years if the Big Beautiful Ball had not passed where certain tax provisions would have otherwise expired. How exactly is all those people not paying any income tax paying their a fair share?
Wait they pay payroll taxes like for social security or Medicare, and then benefit from those programs when they reach a certain age, just like everyone else. But that seem unfair to you, we need to redistribute income more whenever we see it. Let's screw the high wage earners even more so we can proved further disincentivize for individuals and businesses from working, saving, and investing.
I'm assuming that you want the "very rich" to pay higher taxes on their income to pay their fair share. But we keep coming back to the problem that the very wealthy often manage the affairs so they have no taxable income - so guess what, they again pay no income taxes. You are left with a tax on wealth which is unconstitutional (it certainly will be under the current SCOTUS) and will never become law in any event because the elites (and their donors) in both parties will never accept a wealth tax. How exactly is that a fair share for me who pays a much higher effective tax rate? Would I object to a wealth tax on the super rich we lived in your seriously fanatasy world and the tax was legal and actually passed? Sure, we all become liberals when it comes to supporting taxing other people.
dajo9 said:going4roses said:
Honestly a fluke. Focus on the 50-60 million bigots that voted for trump.
Be concerned about what is next what can be achieved/corrected.
Your concerns for bigotry against Black people would have a lot more conviction if you had an ounce of concern for bigotry against women
SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://apple.news/AF5tnj397T9unPOZB-DURdw
At some point, to benefit while crushing others less fortunate feels wrong and should not be the focus.
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
can you examine how rich Democrats will have lower taxes from the new tax bill than they pay now/
I literally attached an article about a rich Dem couple that has affirmed that their tax advisors have noted they will save millions due to the tax cuts. What the 'ell else more do you need?
I'm not a tax expert and will not play one here. Too many liability issues.
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DiabloWags said:wifeisafurd said:
Per Statistica, over 40% of the households in the US pay no federal income tax, and very few of those households are the super wealthy. About 30% of those filling tax returns don't pay income tax, again almost all those filers are low income taxpayers. Government projections estimate a decline in the percentage of non-payers in the coming years if the Big Beautiful Ball had not passed where certain tax provisions would have otherwise expired. How exactly is all those people not paying any income tax paying their a fair share?
Wait they pay payroll taxes like for social security or Medicare, and then benefit from those programs when they reach a certain age, just like everyone else. But that seem unfair to you, we need to redistribute income more whenever we see it. Let's screw the high wage earners even more so we can proved further disincentivize for individuals and businesses from working, saving, and investing.
I'm assuming that you want the "very rich" to pay higher taxes on their income to pay their fair share. But we keep coming back to the problem that the very wealthy often manage the affairs so they have no taxable income - so guess what, they again pay no income taxes. You are left with a tax on wealth which is unconstitutional (it certainly will be under the current SCOTUS) and will never become law in any event because the elites (and their donors) in both parties will never accept a wealth tax. How exactly is that a fair share for me who pays a much higher effective tax rate? Would I object to a wealth tax on the super rich we lived in your seriously fanatasy world and the tax was legal and actually passed? Sure, we all become liberals when it comes to supporting taxing other people.
Well said Sir.
Well said.
And in CA, the Top 1% of wage earners pay nearly half of all state income taxes. I believe it was 45% in 2019.
"Top 1 Percent" Pays Half of State Income Taxes [EconTax Blog]
https://share.google/uU6T9RmrRSHO93O1P
wifeisafurd said:dajo9 said:wifeisafurd said:dajo9 said:
I've voted to pay more taxes ever since I started making real money. At this point I dont care. If dumb, poor, uneducated Americans want to vote to make me more rich and keep themselves poor, well then that's their choice.
You can give money to the federal government, primarily through donations to reduce the public debt or, in some cases, to support specific government programs. The Bureau of the Fiscal Service, a part of the U.S. Treasury Department, accepts voluntary financial contributions and these can be made electronically or by mail. Shall I send you a link? The problem is you never put your money where your mouth is.
Hey Mr. Vote Blue - can I send the link to you? Maybe you can pass it on to those Dems who don't wan't the tax benefits?
I'm sorry you pretend to not understand how liberalism works to all pitch in together and all benefit together but somehow I dont think you want to run a candidate to oppose social security and Medicare so something tells me you are being dishonest in your response.
Being dishonest is someone saying that they deferred income because somehow taxes will change after the midterm elections (clearly someone who does not get that the President will veto any tax increase).
SBGold said:wifeisafurd said:SBGold said:
https://apple.news/AF5tnj397T9unPOZB-DURdw
At some point, to benefit while crushing others less fortunate feels wrong and should not be the focus.
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
can you examine how rich Democrats will have lower taxes from the new tax bill than they pay now/
I literally attached an article about a rich Dem couple that has affirmed that their tax advisors have noted they will save millions due to the tax cuts. What the 'ell else more do you need?
I'm not a tax expert and will not play one here. Too many liability issues.
UNITY OVER DIVISION
VOTE BLUE
Go Bears Forever
going4roses said:dajo9 said:going4roses said:
Honestly a fluke. Focus on the 50-60 million bigots that voted for trump.
Be concerned about what is next what can be achieved/corrected.
Your concerns for bigotry against Black people would have a lot more conviction if you had an ounce of concern for bigotry against women
When have I been misogynistic towards women?
