going4roses said:

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Trump's fault… but they will never admit it

Much like they say there is no racism
Or better yet white people are negatively impacted by racism because Black people are racist lol

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Why do you want to keep yourself oppressed so badly?

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bearister said:

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You guys are rich commenting on Lefties (you know, anyone non MAGA) falling over themselves to politicize these shootings by jumping to the conclusion the shooters are MAGA. That may be true, but I can assure you that no one wants to gain political capital from these shootings more than the Trump Administration does:

Kash Patel imbedded a photo of the "Anti Ice" marked bullet in his posted statement. It is highly unusual and rare for the FBI to publicly release crime scene evidence photos, especially while an investigation is ongoing. Most crime scene photos are protected from public disclosure to prevent damage to the case.

You MAGA sympathizers are standing on unfirm moral high ground.

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Some classic us versus them defense: "Commenting on Lefties (you know, anyone non MAGA)." Sorta the McCarthy everyone not agreeing with me is a communist. That you are constantly in a rush to judgement to prove everything is some MAGA conspiracy says a lot more about you. Trump certainly will jump on this, and you guys certainly make it easy for him to do so by wading right in there with the stuff you make-up.

Maher is talking about general mass shootings, not targeted shootings as was determined to be the case here. The public doesn't know what this shooters motivations are yet, at least not from what has been shared with the public. If you think this is MAGA or moral high grounds, so be it. Again, this says so much more about you.

Substantive edit: I didn't copy the first part of your comment, but it know seems relebvant:

"The early reports were enough to convince Noem to take the "attack on law enforcement" out of her original statement. I came to the same conclusion she did based on the three migrant hits."

Your lanaguage about Noem editing herself about this not be an attack on ICE or law enforcement didn't date well. She just issued a new statement saying among other things:
This was an attack on ICE law enforcement. (her statement bolded)
This shooting must serve as a wake-up call to the far-left that their rhetoric about ICE has consequences. Comparing ICE Day-in and day-out to the Nazi Gestapo, the Secret Police, and slave patrols has consequences. (her italics).

I'm sure one of those MAGA types can post the entire statement for you.

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I know you consider yourself superior to the BI MAGAs (you are in it mostly for the tax cuts), and I always considered you more credible than your buddies that rely on catturd and amuse as their go to sources…… but you are starting to slip:

"That you are constantly in a rush to judgement to prove everything is some MAGA conspiracy says a lot more about you."

I rushed to judgment on this Dallas ICE shooting. I never rushed to any conclusions about Kirk's murderer other than to agree with Maher last Friday as seen in the New Rules video. I don't know what else you have in mind using the word "constantly."

"Maher is talking about general mass shootings, not targeted shootings as was determined to be the case here.."

To give you the benefit of the doubt, I will assume you were distracted when you watched the Maher New Rules video. Bill specifically discussed both of Trump's would be assassins, Kirk's assassin and Paul Pelosi's attempted assassin and Bill said they all had no discernible political ideology other than being all over the place and bat guano crazy. You love using the phrase "it says a lot about you." What does it say about you that you make a comment about a video that is totally inaccurate?

" Your language about Noem editing herself about this not be an attack on ICE or law enforcement didn't date well."

I made a mistake about the order of Noem's statements. Here is Noem's initial comment early this morning:


At 9:03 AM she was being circumspect and didn't frame it as an attack on ICE, although JD Vance did, as you can see from his statement above her's.

At 9:05 AM she edits her statement:



Even though by her own admission, that the facts are still developing, she now implicitly ties it to an attack on ICE. The sentence she added about ICE being under attack serves no other purpose. Someone probably pointed out to her to "get with the program." I have no doubt her later statements were jumping up and down on the government being under attack theme, just like Kash Patel's statement which inappropriately included a photo of evidence from an active crime scene investigation. I would imagine we need more Guard in a lot more cities now, don't you?

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https://mol.im/a/15129363

……and from the Administration's go to news source:

LIVE UPDATES | Dallas ICE Shooting: 2 dead, 1 injured; shooter deceased | FOX 4 Dallas-Fort Worth https://www.fox4news.com/news/dallas-ice-shooting

"Two ICE detainees have died, and a third is in critical condition after being shot by a sniper in Dallas early Wednesday morning."

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Seems like another young man who learned to shoot a gun as a kid and got his brain cooked online

These shootings will just drift off the front page. There are too many candidates for shooting up an ICE facility.

Logo Update: Democrat Donkey Now Holding Sniper Rifle https://t.co/JqxojpJGxj pic.twitter.com/phKGHpnIa1

— The Babylon Bee (@TheBabylonBee) September 24, 2025

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Every single attack now has writing on the casings?

Is there more to the story than meets the eye?

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Copycats, tale as old as time

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How it started pic.twitter.com/owzQk60NA7

— Alison S (@SOscarboy2) September 24, 2025

BearlySane88 said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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Every single attack now has writing on the casings?

Is there more to the story than meets the eye?

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Copycats, tale as old as time

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ICE-TIFA copycats.

Woah!

Antifa is getting rolled up now! pic.twitter.com/6Mh12K0IWu

— Mark Mitchell, Rasmussen Reports (@honestpollster) September 25, 2025

Yall propaganda machine has been working overtime lol ….

I thought the rapture was to supposed to have y'all on a spaceship to ______.

going4roses said:

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Yall propaganda machine has been working overtime lol ….

I thought the rapture was to supposed to have y'all on a spaceship to ______.

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The rapture did happen yesterday. It's just that everyone is evil and wicked, so there was no one God deemed worthy of taking away.

Who's that over there polishing up a trumpet?

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going4roses said:

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Yall propaganda machine has been working overtime lol ….

I thought the rapture was to supposed to have y'all on a spaceship to ______.

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The rapture did happen yesterday. It's just that everyone is evil and wicked, so there was no one God deemed worthy of taking away.

Who's that over there polishing up a trumpet?

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ICE shooter Joshua Jahn's politics aren't what's being reported, three longtime former friends tell me.https://t.co/IhD9zgF8sc

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) September 25, 2025

What really needs to be looked at here is not left-vs.-right politics, but rather the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture bleeding into the mainstream.

sycasey said:

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ICE shooter Joshua Jahn's politics aren't what's being reported, three longtime former friends tell me.https://t.co/IhD9zgF8sc

— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) September 25, 2025

What really needs to be looked at here is not left-vs.-right politics, but rather the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture bleeding into the mainstream.

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That mixed with the guns. I keep hearing this is the 3rd shooting this week in Texas. What's going on in Texas?

wifeisafurd said:

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….running around Arizona so the nut job Tom thinks Trump will send in the national guard there, and the rest of nonsense that you dimwits could replicate from the Kirk shooting thread, except that you went back to sanitize or delete after sycasey warned you to do so since things may not exactly be coming out with your narrative, except, of course, for Dajo who will just change is narrative to fit the new facts and say everyone is else is using straw men against him. I can see why Yogi loves pulling your chain. Key the mimes from Bearister. Adios.

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Wow.
Show us who you really are, not just the proud donor in the photo.

By the way, you were right. Kimmel came back. I was wrong.

I notice you didn't run that in my face - not because you're a gentleman, but because you remain proven wrong on the initial assertion - it wasn't profitability that closed him down, it was Trump's flex that did. Just ask Carr.

Oops, you sure looked stupid there, fatso. Is it okay if I start calling you that, if you're going to be calling me nut job? At least my insult is accurate.

Or, we could just return to civil exchange of ideas. You decide.

It's Texas …

going4roses said:

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Yall propaganda machine has been working overtime lol ….

I thought the rapture was to supposed to have y'all on a spaceship to ______.

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@FBIDallas and FBI HQ have been working 24/7 to seize devices, exploit data, and process writings obtained on location and in the subject's person/residence/bedroom. This @FBI is committed to providing timely updates, as promised:

- The perp downloaded a document titled "Dallas…

— FBI Director Kash Patel (@FBIDirectorKash) September 25, 2025

Do you ever admit when you're wrong or just bury your head deeper in the sand?

going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

BearlySane88 said:

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going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

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Popularity, or numbers, does not make something true, right, proper.

What's the percentage of people who truly believe man was created from mud and woman from his rib?

Do you believe that?

Go ahead and quote meaningless stuff if it makes you feel better.

concordtom said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

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Popularity, or numbers, does not make something true, right, proper.

What's the percentage of people who truly believe man was created from mud and woman from his rib?

Do you believe that?

Go ahead and quote meaningless stuff if it makes you feel better.

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You can determine whatever you want as meaningless, doesn't make it any less true. California is the laughing stock of half the country

BearlySane88 said:

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going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

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That actually makes sense that the rest of the country thinks that. Fox News is # 1.

California's economy is a powerhouse within the United States and globally, with key strengths in technology, business, and agriculture.

Economic scale: California has the largest economy of any U.S. state. With a gross domestic product (GDP) of $4.1 trillion in 2024, it ranks as the fourth-largest economy in the world, ahead of countries like Japan.

Business environment: The state is ranked first for new business starts and access to venture capital funding.

Fortune 500 companies: It is home to more Fortune 500 company headquarters than any other state.

Manufacturing and exports:
California leads in manufacturing output, particularly in high-tech goods and zero-emission vehicles. It also remains the top agricultural producer in the country.

Technology and innovation
With Silicon Valley as a major hub, California is a global leader in technology and innovation.

Artificial Intelligence (AI): The state is home to the majority of the nation's top AI companies, with 32 of the top 50 AI companies worldwide located there as of March 2025.

Research and development: California's corporate research and development presence is significant on a global scale, and its major universities are top-ranked for research and tech programs.

Environment and climate policy
California is a leader in environmental regulations and clean energy initiatives.

Clean energy: In 2025, the state met 100% of its electricity demand with clean energy sources for an average of seven hours a day.

Electric vehicles (EVs): The state leads the nation in the number of EVs and charging locations.

Social and cultural influence
California holds significant national influence in popular culture, education, and social policy.

Population: It is the most populous U.S. state, with approximately 39 million residents.

Higher education: The University of California system consistently ranks as the best public university system in the nation.

Reproductive freedom: California has passed numerous laws and a constitutional amendment to protect and expand access to reproductive healthcare.

Gun safety: Giffords Law Center and Everytown for Gun Safety rank California as having the strongest gun safety laws in the country.

Entertainment: The state is the center of the U.S. film industry in Hollywood, profoundly influencing global entertainment.

bearister said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

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That actually makes sense that the rest of the country thinks that. Fox News is # 1.

California's economy is a powerhouse within the United States and globally, with key strengths in technology, business, and agriculture.

Economic scale: California has the largest economy of any U.S. state. With a gross domestic product (GDP) of $4.1 trillion in 2024, it ranks as the fourth-largest economy in the world, ahead of countries like Japan.

Business environment: The state is ranked first for new business starts and access to venture capital funding.

Fortune 500 companies: It is home to more Fortune 500 company headquarters than any other state.

Manufacturing and exports:
California leads in manufacturing output, particularly in high-tech goods and zero-emission vehicles. It also remains the top agricultural producer in the country.

Technology and innovation
With Silicon Valley as a major hub, California is a global leader in technology and innovation.

Artificial Intelligence (AI): The state is home to the majority of the nation's top AI companies, with 32 of the top 50 AI companies worldwide located there as of March 2025.

Research and development: California's corporate research and development presence is significant on a global scale, and its major universities are top-ranked for research and tech programs.

Environment and climate policy
California is a leader in environmental regulations and clean energy initiatives.

Clean energy: In 2025, the state met 100% of its electricity demand with clean energy sources for an average of seven hours a day.

Electric vehicles (EVs): The state leads the nation in the number of EVs and charging locations.

Social and cultural influence
California holds significant national influence in popular culture, education, and social policy.

Population: It is the most populous U.S. state, with approximately 39 million residents.

Higher education: The University of California system consistently ranks as the best public university system in the nation.

Reproductive freedom: California has passed numerous laws and a constitutional amendment to protect and expand access to reproductive healthcare.

Gun safety: Giffords Law Center and Everytown for Gun Safety rank California as having the strongest gun safety laws in the country.

Entertainment: The state is the center of the U.S. film industry in Hollywood, profoundly influencing global entertainment.

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Men in women's sports, funding illegal immigrants, allowing men in women's bathrooms, awful fire management, homelessness on the rise, leniency on criminals, retail theft, gas prices, an ever growing state government, debt and deficit…. Should I go on?

sycasey said:

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What really needs to be looked at here is not left-vs.-right politics, but rather the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture bleeding into the mainstream.

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The mainstream media can look into the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture while the Feds investigate the shooter's radicalization process to become a left-wing terrorist.

🚨 BREAKING: US Attorney Larson CONFIRMS the ICE Dallas shooter was a LEFT WING TERRORlST who was targeting ICE agents

LEFTIST VlOLENCE MUST BE STOPPED. pic.twitter.com/FFMnSdZK7f

Notes written by the assailant were found:

“He called the ICE employees people showing up to…

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) September 25, 2025

PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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What really needs to be looked at here is not left-vs.-right politics, but rather the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture bleeding into the mainstream.

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The mainstream media can look into the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture while the Feds investigate the shooter's radicalization process to become a left-wing terrorist.

🚨 BREAKING: US Attorney Larson CONFIRMS the ICE Dallas shooter was a LEFT WING TERRORlST who was targeting ICE agents

LEFTIST VlOLENCE MUST BE STOPPED. pic.twitter.com/FFMnSdZK7f

Notes written by the assailant were found:

“He called the ICE employees people showing up to…

— Nick Sortor (@nicksortor) September 25, 2025

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Do the lefties on here ever get tired of being wrong?

BearlySane88 said:

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PAC-10-BEAR said:

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sycasey said:

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What really needs to be looked at here is not left-vs.-right politics, but rather the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture bleeding into the mainstream.

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The mainstream media can look into the phenomenon of nihilistic internet culture while the Feds investigate the shooter's radicalization process to become a left-wing terrorist.

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Do the lefties on here ever get tired of being wrong?

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It's a mystery to me, do they enjoy the weekly beatdowns?

BearlySane88 said:

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Men in women's sports, funding illegal immigrants, allowing men in women's bathrooms, awful fire management, homelessness on the rise, leniency on criminals, retail theft, gas prices, an ever growing state government, debt and deficit…. Should I go on?

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Just go (if you are a resident).

Born and raised here and wouldn't consider living anywhere else. I love it.

bearister said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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Men in women's sports, funding illegal immigrants, allowing men in women's bathrooms, awful fire management, homelessness on the rise, leniency on criminals, retail theft, gas prices, an ever growing state government, debt and deficit…. Should I go on?

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Just go (if you are a resident).

Born and raised here and wouldn't consider living anywhere else. I love it.

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lol if you don't agree get outta here, that's the same mentality yall use towards everything. I love living here and it would be even better if some of the issues were addressed. Two things can be true at the same time

Officials confirm the Dallas ICE shooter used an ICE TRACKING APP to follow ICE agents.

Concerned citizens have been warning about this exact scenario months ago.

I couldn't care less if you disagree with me. You sound unhappy here. You must feel the positives outweigh the negatives if you are hanging around.

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I couldn't care less if you disagree with me. You sound unhappy here. You must feel the positives outweigh the negatives if you are hanging around.

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You do care or you wouldn't be responding. California is my home and always has been. God forbid I want my home to be a safe place with a successful future

Three months ago, CNN irresponsibly gave free publicity to an app that recklessly shares the location of ICE Agents.

It has now been revealed the leftist lunatic shooter who opened fire on the Dallas ICE Facility was using one of these apps.

The liberal media is complicit in… https://t.co/kaXDJzGwyJ pic.twitter.com/sCUzWNpXzd

— Karoline Leavitt (@PressSec) September 25, 2025

BearlySane88 said:

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concordtom said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

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Popularity, or numbers, does not make something true, right, proper.

What's the percentage of people who truly believe man was created from mud and woman from his rib?

Do you believe that?

Go ahead and quote meaningless stuff if it makes you feel better.

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You can determine whatever you want as meaningless, doesn't make it any less true. California is the laughing stock of half the country

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Where do you live?
Where have you lived?

I'm guessing you're not terribly well traveled.

I have family all over the country and I travel them and I speak to them. There are many wonderful places in many parts of this continent. I long to return to many places, and a person can have a wonderful life in many places.

But one thing I'm convinced of is that California is not a "laughing stock". In many cases, it's the envy of the nation. California has so many qualities that others wish they have.

I don't care to go through every aspect of a +/- scorecard with you, but I just think you are repeating maga talking points.
In other words, you're full of it.

You embarrass yourself.

BearlySane88 said:

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bearister said:

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I couldn't care less if you disagree with me. You sound unhappy here. You must feel the positives outweigh the negatives if you are hanging around.

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You do care or you wouldn't be responding. California is my home and always has been. God forbid I want my home to be a safe place with a successful future

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What a shame that you live in a place, have always lived in a place, that you've been led to believe is a laughing stock.

If it's so bad, go trying living elsewhere. Then you'll come to appreciate what you've got more.

concordtom said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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concordtom said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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going4roses said:

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It's Texas …

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You understand most of the country looks at California as more backwards than Texas right?

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Popularity, or numbers, does not make something true, right, proper.

What's the percentage of people who truly believe man was created from mud and woman from his rib?

Do you believe that?

Go ahead and quote meaningless stuff if it makes you feel better.

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You can determine whatever you want as meaningless, doesn't make it any less true. California is the laughing stock of half the country

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Where do you live?
Where have you lived?

I'm guessing you're not terribly well traveled.

I have family all over the country and I travel them and I speak to them. There are many wonderful places in many parts of this continent. I long to return to many places, and a person can have a wonderful life in many places.

But one thing I'm convinced of is that California is not a "laughing stock". In many cases, it's the envy of the nation. California has so many qualities that others wish they have.

I don't care to go through every aspect of a +/- scorecard with you, but I just think you are repeating maga talking points.
In other words, you're full of it.

You embarrass yourself.

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And you'd guess wrong. Been to every state, except Alaska, and over 20 countries.

The envy of the nation…. sure. That's why more people are leaving the state year after year.

concordtom said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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bearister said:

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I couldn't care less if you disagree with me. You sound unhappy here. You must feel the positives outweigh the negatives if you are hanging around.

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You do care or you wouldn't be responding. California is my home and always has been. God forbid I want my home to be a safe place with a successful future

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What a shame that you live in a place, have always lived in a place, that you've been led to believe is a laughing stock.

If it's so bad, go trying living elsewhere. Then you'll come to appreciate what you've got more.

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Again, god forbid I want my home to be a safer place.

Many people move because of affordability.
Doesn't make the state a laughing stock.

Many move back after realizing it's worth it here.
If you're so down on the state, why don't you leave. Certainly you've found your ideal hamlet in all your travels.

BearlySane88 said:

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concordtom said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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bearister said:

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I couldn't care less if you disagree with me. You sound unhappy here. You must feel the positives outweigh the negatives if you are hanging around.

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You do care or you wouldn't be responding. California is my home and always has been. God forbid I want my home to be a safe place with a successful future

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What a shame that you live in a place, have always lived in a place, that you've been led to believe is a laughing stock.

If it's so bad, go trying living elsewhere. Then you'll come to appreciate what you've got more.

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Again, god forbid I want my home to be a safer place.

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Perhaps you're revealing your socioeconomic status.

By the way, Democrats have lots of policy proposals for you. You should look into them.