Sbgold are you a "free Palestine" person?

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HawaiiBear33
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kal kommie
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Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.
Big C
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HawaiiBear33, the poster you reference seems to be "taking a little break" from BI (hasn't posted in three weeks). Perhaps at his own initiative, perhaps not. Hopefully the former.
HawaiiBear33
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She is XX
Hope she is physically well
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kal kommie said:

Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.



I forget your story…Trojan right?


Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda. They used this skirmish for more propaganda. They could have stopped the war anytime by releasing the hostages instead of gang raping and torturing them for years.


They teach their kids to kill Jews and hate Americans from the womb.


They are probably more by rain washed than you radical leftists.


Stop looking at only one side of every story
Cal88
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HawaiiBear33 said:

kal kommie said:

Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.


Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda. They used this skirmish for more propaganda. They could have stopped the war anytime by releasing the hostages instead of gang raping and torturing them for years.

They teach their kids to kill Jews and hate Americans from the womb

They are probably more by rain washed than you radical leftists.

Stop looking at only one side of every story



"Skirmish"? An intensive carpet bombing campaign of an area with 2 million people smaller than San Jose with the equivalent of 7 Hiroshima bombs???

Have you honestly looked at the two sides of the story here? Perhaps you might want to check with reliable conservative sources that might be palatable to you like Tucker Carlson, or if you want to go further back, Pat Buchanan.
kal kommie
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HawaiiBear33 said:

kal kommie said:

Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.



I forget your story…Trojan right?


Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda
. They used this skirmish for more propaganda. They could have stopped the war anytime by releasing the hostages instead of gang raping and torturing them for years.


They teach their kids to kill Jews and hate Americans from the womb.


They are probably more by rain washed than you radical leftists.


Stop looking at only one side of every story

"Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda"

"Stop looking at only one side of the story"

Do you actually think about the things you write? I don't mean how depraved they are but how stupid it makes you look when you put those two sentences in the same statement?

Of course rape is terrible and no one should support it but unfortunately some do, like the Israeli ministers and Knesset members who approved of the rape of Palestinian prisoners at the Sde Teiman torture camp.

We know this is happening not only because their lawmakers publicly endorse it and because Israeli human rights orgs have documented witness testimony but also because we have leaked video from inside the torture camp which appears to show one of these rapes taking place. It is impossible to be sure however because in the video Israeli guards are using shields to block the camera. Israeli officials reacted by condemning whoever leaked the video. An Israeli mob rioted in support of the rapist guards when they were put under investigation. No one has been punished and Israel has released no findings from their "investigation".

Despite all of the Israelis who have come to the defense of rapists, it would be unjust to condemn an entire people for the evil acts of some. It would be unjust for example to say that Israelis do not deserve freedom because in their own war of "independence" their soldiers systematically committed rape against Palestinians in order to terrorize and dominate. We have reliable accounts of this from Israeli soldiers.

But I am glad to see you are so concerned about sexual morality. Rape -- including child rape and marital rape -- and incest are terrible crimes. So I'm sure you must be very concerned that the sitting President of the United States was found in a civil trial to have raped a woman, has been accused of sexual assault or rape by many others, including an accusation that he raped two young girls at an Epstein party, was accused of marital rape by an ex-wife and on many occasions disgustingly sexualized his own daughter even when she was a child.

Big C
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HawaiiBear33 said:

kal kommie said:

Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.



I forget your story…Trojan right?


Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda. They used this skirmish for more propaganda. They could have stopped the war anytime by releasing the hostages instead of gang raping and torturing them for years.


They teach their kids to kill Jews and hate Americans from the womb.


They are probably more by rain washed than you radical leftists.


Stop looking at only one side of every story

Good Lord, talk about only looking at one side of the story...
HawaiiBear33
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kal kommie said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

kal kommie said:

Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.



I forget your story…Trojan right?


Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda
. They used this skirmish for more propaganda. They could have stopped the war anytime by releasing the hostages instead of gang raping and torturing them for years.


They teach their kids to kill Jews and hate Americans from the womb.


They are probably more by rain washed than you radical leftists.


Stop looking at only one side of every story

"Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda"

"Stop looking at only one side of the story"

Do you actually think about the things you write? I don't mean how depraved they are but how stupid it makes you look when you put those two sentences in the same statement?

Of course rape is terrible and no one should support it but unfortunately some do, like the Israeli ministers and Knesset members who approved of the rape of Palestinian prisoners at the Sde Teiman torture camp.

We know this is happening not only because their lawmakers publicly endorse it and because Israeli human rights orgs have documented witness testimony but also because we have leaked video from inside the torture camp which appears to show one of these rapes taking place. It is impossible to be sure however because in the video Israeli guards are using shields to block the camera. Israeli officials reacted by condemning whoever leaked the video. An Israeli mob rioted in support of the rapist guards when they were put under investigation. No one has been punished and Israel has released no findings from their "investigation".

Despite all of the Israelis who have come to the defense of rapists, it would be unjust to condemn an entire people for the evil acts of some. It would be unjust for example to say that Israelis do not deserve freedom because in their own war of "independence" their soldiers systematically committed rape against Palestinians in order to terrorize and dominate. We have reliable accounts of this from Israeli soldiers.

But I am glad to see you are so concerned about sexual morality. Rape -- including child rape and marital rape -- and incest are terrible crimes. So I'm sure you must be very concerned that the sitting President of the United States was found in a civil trial to have raped a woman, has been accused of sexual assault or rape by many others, including an accusation that he raped two young girls at an Epstein party, was accused of marital rape by an ex-wife and on many occasions disgustingly sexualized his own daughter even when she was a child.





I haven't looked into the Israel tapes you mention to know if true or not.


Do you refute that Palestine could've ended the war anytime simply by returning the hostages?

They want the war for the propaganda


If Trump did those things he would be in jail. You blindly believe it all because you want to because you believe the propaganda.
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Big C said:

HawaiiBear33 said:

kal kommie said:

Let's keep in mind what this professional propaganda means: stop complaining about what Israel is doing in Gaza.

Forget that Palestinians have always been robbed of their freedom, whether it was by the Ottomans, the British or these last 77 years by Israel who can and does revoke any freedom of any Palestinian it chooses at any time for any reason without any appeal beyond itself. It's the fault of the Palestinians for being backwards barbarians.

Forget that Palestinians non-combatants are being butchered by the tens of thousands in the quest to destroy Hamas. It's their fault for supporting Hamas to begin with and for not overthrowing Hamas.

But despite their failings, we are for the good of the Palestinians too, as our partner Israel snipes their children in the head and systematically massacres their doctors, nurses and paramedics. War arbitrarily must be as brutal on our victims as we want it to be and of course we condemn the injustice of any adversary which does the same.

Let's also not keep in view our cultural failings regarding child sex abuse and sexual assault, especially in our elite society, who must be exemplars of our virtues since we live in such a meritocratic society.



I forget your story…Trojan right?


Every sob story about Palestine is pure propaganda. They used this skirmish for more propaganda. They could have stopped the war anytime by releasing the hostages instead of gang raping and torturing them for years.


They teach their kids to kill Jews and hate Americans from the womb.


They are probably more by rain washed than you radical leftists.


Stop looking at only one side of every story

Good Lord, talk about only looking at one side of the story...


Key Findings from Less Left-Leaning Sources
These reports confirm documented instances of severe abuse, including sexual violence, but attribute them to individual misconduct rather than systemic policy. No source fully endorses the "systemic rape" narrative without caveats, and many highlight Israel's probes and denials.

- IDF Investigations and Indictments (Reported by The Times of Israel and Jerusalem Post):
- In July 2024, nine IDF reservists from the Force 100 unit were arrested for the alleged gang-rape and severe abuse of a Palestinian detainee at Sde Teiman, causing rectal tears requiring surgery (e.g., broken ribs, internal injuries).

There were a lot of atrocities here for sure. They should be condemned and have been. The radical left is greatly exaggerating this as systemic.


Notice there were arrests of soldiers. Probably not severe enough punishment for what they did.


Now name a Muslim arrested for raping a Jew…or any non Muslim in a Muslim controlled country…


There are good people and bad people in every country.

When your religious book and prophet encourage taking sex slaves there is a real systemic problem.

I don't magically already know both sides of everything. Far from it: but I'm willing to look.

Most of you liberals look at only one sided propaganda and cross reference with other (really the same) liberal sources all with the same agenda.


Be willing to look with an open mind

Realize you've been programmed to hate. Using the small subset of BI posts you can see the vast majority of name calling and rage comes from the left to the right.
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> are you a "free Palestine" person?

guilty as (not) charged
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MODS - why is this thread allowed to continue 0 it directly calls out another poster. The OP continuously violates board rules, spamming threads and flooding existing threads with nonsense and insults.
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Muckieeye said:

MODS - why is this thread allowed to continue 0 it directly calls out another poster. The OP continuously violates board rules, spamming threads and flooding existing threads with nonsense and insults.
Indeed, he's calling out a poster that either can't or no longer posts here. A real cheap shot that won't get responded to by the one he's attacking.
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Muckieeye said:

MODS - why is this thread allowed to continue 0 it directly calls out another poster. The OP continuously violates board rules, spamming threads and flooding existing threads with nonsense and insults.

This is a good thread in so much as it brings to light just how horrible HAMAS is, which is lost in Israel's aggression against them as they refuse to give up the Israelis they brutally kidnapped.

It is reasonable to ask that SBGold's name be removed from the thread, however.
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oski003 said:

Muckieeye said:

MODS - why is this thread allowed to continue 0 it directly calls out another poster. The OP continuously violates board rules, spamming threads and flooding existing threads with nonsense and insults.

This is a good thread in so much as it brings to light just how horrible HAMAS is, which is lost in Israel's aggression against them as they refuse to give up the Israelis they brutally kidnapped.

It is reasonable to ask that SBGold's name be removed from the thread, however.



I Didn't consider it calling her out. She is the only poster I know to be female and I wanted a female perspective. I wasn't aware of the rule but now I am.

Great job Trump getting Hamas to finally return the hostages. If Israel keeps up aggression after that then I will join you in vitriol against them.


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Muckieeye said:

MODS - why is this thread allowed to continue 0 it directly calls out another poster. The OP continuously violates board rules, spamming threads and flooding existing threads with nonsense and insults.


Show me one of my "insults"
I deal some snark and sarc here and there
I sling brain wash a lot. Is that an insult to you?
I dish WAY less horrible things then I receive here
Big C
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HawaiiBear33 said:

Muckieeye said:

MODS - why is this thread allowed to continue 0 it directly calls out another poster. The OP continuously violates board rules, spamming threads and flooding existing threads with nonsense and insults.


Show me one of my "insults"
I deal some snark and sarc here and there
I sling brain wash a lot. Is that an insult to you?
I dish WAY less horrible things then I receive here

Who are you calling a "she"? Is it SBGold? (appears to be) He is a man. Are you a misogynist or something? You sound like Jim Rome that time he was interviewing Jin Everett (except for decades have passed and we have evolved, so even worse).
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Big C said:

Who are you calling a "she"? Is it SBGold? (appears to be) He is a man.

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