Innocent and intentionally framed

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going4roses
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Damn
How (are) you gonna win when you ain’t right within…
going4roses
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going4roses
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Since Black ppl are racist … name one just one instance if the driver was White … the same situation takes place

Prove it
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oski003
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going4roses said:

Since Black ppl are racist … name one just one instance if the driver was White … the same situation takes place

Prove it


It is impossible considering you and I don't know the true facts of this case. You are making ridiculous presumptions based on prejudice, skin color, hatred of cops, and a short video.
going4roses
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Can't prove it …
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oski003
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The investigation revealed that the crash occurred as a 2023 Dodge Charger was traveling south on LA Hwy 20. The driver of the Dodge, later identified as 24-year-old Kyren Lacy of Thibodaux, recklessly passed multiple vehicles at a high rate of speed by crossing the centerline and entering the northbound lane while in a designated No-Passing Zone. As Lacy was illegally passing the other vehicles, the driver of a northbound pickup truck abruptly braked and swerved to the right to avoid a head-on collision with the approaching Dodge. Traveling behind the pickup was a 2017 Kia Cadenza whose driver swerved left to avoid the on coming Dodge Charger. As the Kia Cadenza took evasive action to avoid impact with the Dodge, it crossed the centerline and collided head-on with a southbound 2017 Kia Sorento. Following the crash, Lacy drove around the crash scene and fled south on LA Hwy 20 without stopping to render aid, call emergency services, or report his involvement in the crash. Troop C was later notified that Hall, who was a passenger in the Kia Sorrento, succumbed to his injuries from the crash after being transported to a hospital for treatment.

Troopers and LSP Detectives continued the investigation into the crash and through investigative means were able to identify the Dodge Charger and determine that Lacy was driving at the time of the crash. As a result of the investigation, Troopers obtained an arrest warrant for Lacy through the Lafourche Parish 17th Judicial Court for LA RS 14:32 negligent homicide, LA RS 14:100 felony hit and run, and LA RS 14:99 reckless operation of a vehicle. Troopers are in communication with Lacy and his legal representation to turn himself in.


The investigation remains active and ongoing.
oski003
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going4roses said:

Can't prove it …


I posted the above because fault can't be analyzed without at least presenting the perspective of the police and prosecution, which you failed to do in your biased posts.

As for proving it, unfortunately, that is now unnecessary because the accused took his own life in a separate incident when fleeing from cops after firing a gun in an argument with a family member.
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going4roses said:

Since Black ppl are racist … name one just one instance if the driver was White … the same situation takes place

Prove it

Actually (and I am NOT disagreeing with you but suggesting that a better analysis might include more variables).

The WSJ currently has an AMAZING podcast going on about a case in South Carolina called "Swamp Camp Road". In a nut shell a white guy, perhaps drunk, got into a road rage incident with another white guy who happened to be a "good old boy made good". It could EASILY be charged as second degree murder (and possible first) and instead the good old boy is getting off with a stand your ground defense.

I think one big huge problem is that we have not at all figured out how to provide oversight when it comes to modern law enforced. There ARE too many guns out there and it makes police officers rightly fearful during Traffic stops and in response to crisis situations like Domestic Violence or Mental Health distress. It is too easy to policize those things. Then add in local control, where so many police departments are small and lack the resources to provide good training and hire good cops.

That doesn't discount race - where you have too many cops put in stressful situations who revert to stereotypes and then oversight authorities that are far too ready to give benefit of the doubt to cops when the victim is black. It is just to say that we should acknowledge cops are put in very challenging circumstances and so often it is rooted in prejudices overlaid by powerstructures that discount the value of black lives and excuse behavior because of stereotypes.
oski003
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oski003 said:

going4roses said:

Can't prove it …


I posted the above because fault can't be analyzed without at least presenting the perspective of the police and prosecution, which you failed to do in your biased posts.

As for proving it, unfortunately, that is now unnecessary because the accused took his own life in a separate incident when fleeing from cops after firing a gun in an argument with a family member.


Since GFR hasn't responded to this despite posting several times in other topics today, I am going to consider this matter closed. Race-baiting is a harmful and destructive practice. Let's stop doing it multiple times a week. I highly recommend cutting down on watching race-baiting tik toks and reels. Thanks.
concordtom
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The only good thing about being a cop is the pension.
…and the lifetime supply of donuts.
going4roses
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Only racist take the bait !!!

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oski003
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going4roses said:

Only racist take the bait !!!




It is so sad that this garbage is your rebuttal. The only racist taking the bait is you. Please present a logical and truthful cohesive argument. Until you can do so, get your divisive race-baiting crap out of here.
oski003
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I thought we should bring details into this, which the OP appears incapable of doing...

Per Lacy's attorney's interview:

1) Lacy was illegally passing 4 cars in a row that were going roughly 40-45 mph and facing oncoming traffic 90 yards away from an oncoming gold truck.

2) The gold truck witness indicates he stopped his car in the middle of the road when he saw Lacy's Dodge charger but did not slam his brakes nor veer to the right, which is in contradiction to his unsigned written statement.

3) The car behind the gold truck was tailgating the gold truck and swerved to the left into the oncoming traffic lane, instead of stopping, and therefore caused the crash.

4) Lacy got back into his legal lane, going the correct direction, 72 yards before the accident occurred.

5) Because Lacy was 72 yards away, he believes him that he initially didn't think he caused the accident and didn't stop and was continuing on to football practice.

6) The media sensationalized the story, which was based on the police narrative, and blamed Lacy 100% which led to him not being able to be drafted into the NFL.

7) The attorney general's office didn't think the case would pass grand jury testimony and evidence was coming to light that the lady behind the gold truck was driving too close to the gold truck and her poor reaction was a more immediate cause of the accident and this would not survive a manslaughter charge.

8) Despite being what the lawyer described as 48 hours from exculpating Lacy of the severe charge, Lacy was so distraught he shot a firearm toward a family member, fled in his vehicle, and then killed himself. The lawyer feels he shot at him to get his keys and he planned on killing himself before the altercation.
oski003
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It is nice to get more of the story and not get easily duped by racist influencers who prey on vulnerable fools.

Per ESPN:

Louisiana State Police released video and records on Tuesday related to a fatal crash in December 2024 they allege was caused by former LSU football player Kyren Lacy. Their investigation had come into question in recent days after a video was posted of an interview Lacy's attorney conducted with a Louisiana TV station that cast doubt on whether Lacy was responsible for the crash that killed 78-year-old Herman Hall in Chackbay, La.

"Since the incident occurred, the Louisiana State Police never reported that the green [Dodge] Charger impacted any of the involved vehicles," the Louisiana State Police department said in their video released Tuesday. "However, all evidence collected supports the conclusion that Lacy's reckless operation of the green Charger in oncoming traffic triggered the chain of events involving the other drivers, ultimately resulting in the fatal crash."

Lacy, 24, died April 12 in Houston of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound in his car during a pursuit by authorities, according to a Harris County sheriff's report. An arrest warrant from January stated that Lacy was cited with felony negligent homicide and hit and run driving and misdemeanor reckless driving. The Lafourche Parish district attorney's office had not formally charged Lacy and had been preparing to send the case to a grand jury for an indictment on April 14.

According to Lacy's attorney Matthew Ory and state police, around noon on Dec. 17, 2024, Lacy was driving southbound on Louisiana Highway 20 in a green Charger and was passing vehicles in a no passing zone just before a collision. His car never collided with another car. Ory did not respond to ESPN's requests for comment.

In an arrest warrant affidavit dated Jan. 8, police said Lacy's 2023 Dodge Charger was traveling south at "an extremely high rate of speed in a posted 40 mph speed zone," passing four vehicles -- including an 18-wheel truck with a trailer -- on a highly congested road in Chackbay. As Lacy's vehicle attempted to pass, it "rapidly approached a northbound pick-up truck." The affidavit said the pickup driver took emergency action by braking and driving off the roadway to the right, coming to a controlled stop. Police said the driver behind the pickup steered left to avoid a head-on crash "with the rapidly approaching" Charger.

That driver struck a southbound 2017 Kia Sorento in which Hall was a passenger.

In the compiled video narrative, police included video of Lacy returning to the southbound lane. "As the green Dodge Charger returns to the southbound lane," the narrator says, "aggressive braking and engine deceleration are immediately followed by a crash that can be heard on surveillance footage."

Lacy passed the crash scene and continued along the highway. On police body cam footage, one witness said, "a green Charger caused all this." The witnesses' faces were blurred on the video.

Police said they used 21 separate video cameras to capture the "uninterrupted path of the Charger" from the crash scene to a business 11 miles away. Police also said "evidence supports" that less than 10 minutes after the crash, Lacy's first outgoing phone call was to a Baton Rouge-area personal injury and defense attorney.

In the interview Ory conducted with the local TV station, he cited data he said he received from an investigation by the Lafourche Parish District Attorney's office. Ory said that although Lacy passed four vehicles in a no-passing zone prior to the crash, Lacy returned to the proper lane 92.3 yards before the accident -- enough time, he contended, to not have triggered the collision. He showed video of Lacy passing the crash scene post-impact.

Ory said that data from the crash investigation shows the car that hit the vehicle that Hall was riding in was tailgating the pickup truck, and the woman swerved left to avoid hitting the truck when the truck braked. Ory said police originally issued the woman a citation for following too close and later amended the ticket to one for crossing left of center.

Ory also showed body cam footage video that suggested an officer later coerced the pickup driver to testify that Lacy's green car caused the accident. In the video, the driver of the pickup truck states: "That lady in the back of me, she didn't see what's happening. That's how she caused that wreck." The driver did not sign the witness statement, according to Ory.

The district attorney's office did not return a call to ESPN.

Louisiana State Police provided redacted reports of the accident, body cam footage and a video narrative of the investigation.

"While we recognize that external narratives may arise, often based on selective information, we urge the public to rely on the full body of facts," said Col. Robert P. Hodges, superintendent of the Louisiana State Police.

Louisiana attorney general Liz Murrill told ESPN through a spokesperson that she has been in touch with state police about independently reviewing all the witness statements and evidence in the case.

In a follow-up statement Tuesday morning, Murrill said, "The evidence is not disputed here. The Lafourche Parish District Attorney's Office was prepared to present the case to a grand jury that showed Kyren Lacy returning to his lane. However, that does not absolve Kyren Lacy of responsibility in this matter. Every witness identified the green charger Kyren Lacy was determined to be driving, as having put the events in motion that led to the head-on collision, which killed 78-year-old veteran Herman Hall."

In Louisiana, a person can be guilty of vehicular homicide whether the death was "caused proximately or caused directly," meaning a driver did not have to make contact with the vehicle to be at fault, according to state statute.

The statement said the district attorney planned to bring the matter to the grand jury on April 14 so it could decide if there were "appropriate charges to indict on, if any." Shortly before Lacy's death on April 12, a female relative called police around 11:15 p.m. to report that she had been in an argument with Lacy, who had discharged a firearm into the ground. When officers arrived, Lacy had already driven away. About 20 minutes later, when an officer tried to make a traffic stop on Lacy, he fled and officers pursued. Several miles later, Lacy's vehicle crashed.

According to the Harris County Sheriff's Department report, "information indicates Lacy shot himself during the pursuit and prior to the vehicle crashing." A handgun was recovered inside the vehicle.

The report posted online does not identify the type of vehicle Lacy was driving. The Harris County Sheriff's office has not yet released additional records of the incident in response to ESPN's request.
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