On my disappearancehttps://t.co/Oe1E1ftORW

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 24, 2025

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Where Darwin prized the islands for its incubation of remarkably distinct animal lineages, I too benefited from the bewitching remoteness of the Galapagos. During the brief, intermittent moments that I had time to check the news (rather than living through it moment by moment), I realized how utterly forgettable and meaningless most of it was.

Not watching every twist and turn about, say, the latest Epstein transparency failure, I noticed how little these news cycles ultimately produce a very different picture than the 24/7 cycle creates. When I saw that Washington media had dogpiled Trump's chief of staff Susie Wiles for offering some mildly critical remarks about Elon Musk and other administration figures, it occurred to me that no one would give a **** about or even remember any of this a week from now.

I came away shocked and sad at how much the media traffics in fake urgency as a result of its quest for the click. Combine that with national security's constant drumbeat of civil war, disinformation, terrorism, violence, and the threat from within and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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He should have learned this a long time ago

for once we agree. The article writer is a dummy

UNITY OVER DIVISION

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Go Bears Forever

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He should have learned this a long time ago

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It's shocking that it took him until December 2025 to figure this out.
Not very flattering.

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He should have learned this a long time ago

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He's a reporter, so he's knee deep in this stuff normally. Went independent maybe a year ago.

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On my disappearancehttps://t.co/Oe1E1ftORW

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 24, 2025

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…..and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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It's analogous to gish gallop. It is to Trump's advantage that you get buried in such a giant dung heap that you disengage.

Trump is the one discharging the most chaff from Air Force One during any given news cycle.


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For you is there such a thing as too many dramatic headlines or hair on fire stories relating to the shortcomings of the Democratic Party?

Don't expect a relevant, coherent response to your fair question

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Don't expect a relevant, coherent response to your fair question

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Consider this GIF a permanent response to anything you ever post in this forum

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On my disappearancehttps://t.co/Oe1E1ftORW

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 24, 2025

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…..and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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It's analogous to gish gallop. It is to Trump's advantage that you get buried in such a giant dung heap that you disengage.

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No. It is the wise person that doesn't get distracted by the minutiae of the day to day stuff that Trump says and posts on social media. That's all distraction. That's all the stupid stuff you waste your time on every day.

The important things to focus on are the pointless wars we support, the way money gets siphoned from hard working people to rich *******s, and the way the rich and powerful dodge legal consequences for the stuff they actively do (as opposed to the made-up **** they pushed on the country).

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For you is there such a thing as too many dramatic headlines or hair on fire stories relating to the shortcomings of the Democratic Party?

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Hey, it's not easy providing balance to all the stupid **** you guys post in here. It's important to remind libs that they suck just as much as the MAGA folks they mock.

If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

I've read a few times by one of the resident "experts" here about how Obamacare made healthcare a lot WORSE.
Yet, like many message boards on the internet super highway . . . there was zero substantiation to such a claim.

Shocker.

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If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

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Who's they?
Sounds like you're talking about the owner of this site Bear Greg.
Are you saying that he isn't smart???

"It's important to remind libs that they suck just as much as the MAGA folks they mock."

I disagree. Provide a list of Democratic offenses that rival these:

1. Retribution Against Political Opponents
Threats of Execution: In late 2025, Trump accused six Democratic members of Congressall military or intelligence veteransof "seditious behavior" for a video advising service members to refuse "illegal orders." He publicly suggested their actions were "punishable by DEATH".

Criminal Investigations of Critics: The Department of Justice (DOJ) launched criminal investigations into high-profile critics, including New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI Director James Comey. While initial indictments were dismissed by judges who ruled the appointments of interim prosecutors were unlawful, the administration has signaled its intent to continue these prosecutions.

Targeting Law Firms: Trump issued executive orders revoking security clearances and barring federal contracts for prominent law firms, such as Perkins Coie and Paul Weiss, citing their past representation of political opponents or involvement in investigations into his first term.

2. Weaponization of Government Agencies
Department of Justice (DOJ) Independence: The administration ended the post-Watergate norm of DOJ independence, with Trump declaring the executive branch an extension of his person and using it to target perceived enemies.

Internal Revenue Service (IRS): Trump publicly pressured the IRS to review and revoke the tax-exempt status of institutions he disagreed with, most notably Harvard University and various liberal activist organizations.

Federal Communications Commission (FCC): The administration has used the FCC to investigate and threaten the broadcast licenses of news organizations like ABC, CBS, and NBC in retaliation for unfavorable coverage.

3. Dismantling the Civil Service and Oversight
Politicization of the Workforce: Through the reintroduction of "Schedule F" and similar personnel orders, the administration has moved to replace nonpartisan career civil servants with loyalists.

Assault on Inspectors General: Trump fired at least 17 inspectors general across various agencies in early 2025 to remove oversight and accountability for waste, fraud, and abuse.

DOGE Data Access: The newly created Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk, was granted unprecedented access to sensitive personal data of millions of Americans, raising concerns about mass surveillance and potential data misuse.

4. Subverting the Rule of Law and Elections
Defying Court Orders: The administration has repeatedly ignored judicial rulings, including those staying deportations under the Alien Enemies Act and blocking the withholding of congressionally appropriated funds.

Undermining Election Integrity: Executive actions have sought to rewrite federal election rules, including attempting to impose new citizenship document requirements for voter registration and accessing sensitive voter file data.

Pardons for Insurrectionists: On his first day in office in 2025, Trump issued full pardons to all individuals convicted of crimes related to the January 6, 2021, Capitol attack, which critics view as an endorsement of political violence.

5. Erosion of Civil Rights and Free Speech
Domestic Use of the Military: Trump has bypassed state governors to deploy the National Guard to cities like Los Angeles and Portland to police civil protests and handle immigration enforcement.

Targeting Academic Freedom: The administration has withheld billions in federal funding from elite universities and suspended student visa records to crack down on campus protests and specific curricula.

End of Birthright Citizenship: An early 2025 executive order attempted to unilaterally end birthright citizenship for children of undocumented immigrants, a move blocked by multiple federal judges as a violation of the 14th Amendment."
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1. Retribution Against Political Opponents
IRS Targeting of Conservative Groups: During the Obama administration, the IRS was accused of systematically delaying and scrutinizing applications for tax-exempt status from conservative organizations, particularly Tea Party groups, between 2010 and 2013. This led to congressional investigations and admissions of improper targeting by IRS officials.

Prosecution of Whistleblowers: The Obama Justice Department prosecuted more individuals under the Espionage Act for leaking information than all previous administrations combined, including cases against whistleblowers like Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden, which critics argued was retaliation against those exposing government secrets.

Investigations into Political Figures: Under the Clinton administration, controversies like "Filegate" involved the improper access of FBI files on Republican officials, and the firing of White House Travel Office staff was seen by some as politically motivated to benefit allies.

2. Weaponization of Government Agencies
Department of Justice (DOJ) Actions: The Obama-era Operation Fast and Furious allowed firearms to be sold to suspected criminals to track them, but resulted in weapons being used in crimes, including the death of a U.S. Border Patrol agent. Critics accused the DOJ of stonewalling investigations into the program.

NSA Surveillance Programs: Revelations by Edward Snowden in 2013 exposed mass surveillance by the National Security Agency under Obama, collecting phone metadata on millions of Americans without warrants, which was ruled unconstitutional in some court cases and seen as an overreach into privacy.

FBI and DOJ Under Biden: Accusations arose that the Biden DOJ weaponized the FBI against political opponents, including raids on figures like Project Veritas journalists and classifying protesting parents at school board meetings as potential domestic threats, prompting whistleblower claims of bias.

3. Dismantling the Civil Service and Oversight
Recess Appointments: In 2012, President Obama made recess appointments to the National Labor Relations Board and Consumer Financial Protection Bureau while the Senate was in pro forma session, bypassing confirmation. The Supreme Court later ruled these appointments unconstitutional, viewing them as an abuse of executive power.

Politicization of Agencies: Under the Biden administration, extensions of public health emergencies were criticized as overreaches to maintain expanded executive authority, allowing policies like eviction moratoria that bypassed Congress and were struck down by courts.


4. Subverting the Rule of Law and Elections
Defying Court Rulings: The Biden administration faced accusations of ignoring Supreme Court decisions, such as continuing student loan forgiveness efforts after a 2023 ruling struck down a broad plan, and extending eviction moratoriums despite court challenges.

Election Irregularities Allegations: Historical claims include the 1960 presidential election under John F. Kennedy, where accusations of voter fraud in Illinois and Texas, involving Democratic machines like Chicago's Daley organization, were said to have tipped the close race against Richard Nixon.

Pardons for Allies: President Bill Clinton issued controversial pardons on his last day in office in 2001, including to financier Marc Rich, whose ex-wife was a major Democratic donor, and his half-brother Roger Clinton, seen by critics as abuses of pardon power for personal or political gain.

5. Erosion of Civil Rights and Free Speech
Mass Surveillance: Under Biden, the continuation and defense of Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act allowed warrantless surveillance of Americans' communications, criticized by civil liberties groups as unconstitutional and an erosion of privacy rights.

Suppression of Dissent: During World War I, President Woodrow Wilson's administration enforced the Espionage Act of 1917 and Sedition Act of 1918, leading to the arrest of thousands for anti-war speech, including socialist Eugene V. Debs, severely limiting free expression.

Internment Camps: President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Executive Order 9066 in 1942 authorized the internment of over 120,000 Japanese Americans during World War II, a violation of civil rights later acknowledged as a grave injustice driven by racial prejudice.

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Okay…


1. Retribution Against Political Opponents
IRS Targeting of Conservative Groups: During the Obama administration, the IRS was accused of systematically delaying and scrutinizing applications for tax-exempt status from conservative organizations, particularly Tea Party groups, between 2010 and 2013. This led to congressional investigations and admissions of improper targeting by IRS officials.

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"No Evidence of Political Bias from White House: Multiple investigations, including one by House Republican investigators, the Justice Department, and the FBI, found no evidence that the targeting was a result of a directive from the Obama administration or motivated by partisan political views.

Outcome: The Justice Department under both the Obama and Trump administrations determined that no criminal charges were warranted for the mishandling of applications. The IRS eventually settled lawsuits with the affected conservative groups, issuing a formal apology and agreeing to monetary settlements.
In essence, the core accusation of disparate treatment of conservative groups was substantiated by IRS admissions and multiple government reports, which primarily attributed the issue to managerial failures and bureaucratic confusion over tax-exempt rules, rather than an intentional, politically motivated conspiracy directed by the White House"
AI Overview

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1. Retribution Against Political Opponents
IRS Targeting of Conservative Groups: During the Obama administration, the IRS was accused of systematically delaying and scrutinizing applications for tax-exempt status from conservative organizations, particularly Tea Party groups, between 2010 and 2013. This led to congressional investigations and admissions of improper targeting by IRS officials.

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In essence, the core accusation of disparate treatment of conservative groups was substantiated by IRS admissions and multiple government reports, which primarily attributed the issue to managerial failures and bureaucratic confusion over tax-exempt rules, rather than an intentional, politically motivated conspiracy directed by the White House

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So yes but your AI response cites managerial failures. What party were those managers a part of? Bureaucratic confusion? That only affected one party?

That doesn't seem fishy at all…

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1. Retribution Against Political Opponents
IRS Targeting of Conservative Groups: During the Obama administration, the IRS was accused of systematically delaying and scrutinizing applications for tax-exempt status from conservative organizations, particularly Tea Party groups, between 2010 and 2013. This led to congressional investigations and admissions of improper targeting by IRS officials.

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In essence, the core accusation of disparate treatment of conservative groups was substantiated by IRS admissions and multiple government reports, which primarily attributed the issue to managerial failures and bureaucratic confusion over tax-exempt rules, rather than an intentional, politically motivated conspiracy directed by the White House

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So yes but your AI response cites managerial failures. What party were those managers a part of? Bureaucratic confusion? That only affected one party?

That doesn't seem fishy at all…

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Speaking of failures, why is it that people give Charlie Kirk's incompetent security team a FREE pass?

Seems pretty "fishy" to me that there was a catastrophic security failure by his security team protecting a highly outspoken and controversial public figure ... and yet no one questions his security team, not even his wife.

I call that fishy.
Very fishy.

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1. Retribution Against Political Opponents
IRS Targeting of Conservative Groups: During the Obama administration, the IRS was accused of systematically delaying and scrutinizing applications for tax-exempt status from conservative organizations, particularly Tea Party groups, between 2010 and 2013. This led to congressional investigations and admissions of improper targeting by IRS officials.

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In essence, the core accusation of disparate treatment of conservative groups was substantiated by IRS admissions and multiple government reports, which primarily attributed the issue to managerial failures and bureaucratic confusion over tax-exempt rules, rather than an intentional, politically motivated conspiracy directed by the White House

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So yes but your AI response cites managerial failures. What party were those managers a part of? Bureaucratic confusion? That only affected one party?

That doesn't seem fishy at all…

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Speaking of failures, why is it that people give Charlie Kirk's incompetent security team a FREE pass?

Seems pretty "fishy" to me that there was a catastrophic security failure by his security team protecting a highly outspoken and controversial public figure ... and yet no one questions his security team, not even his wife.

I call that fishy.
Very fishy.

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Try and stay on topic big guy. You're straying again.

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…..and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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No. It is the wise person that doesn't get distracted by the minutiae of the day to day stuff that Trump says and posts on social media. That's all distraction. That's all the stupid stuff you waste your time on every day.

The important things to focus on are the pointless wars we support, the way money gets siphoned from hard working people to rich *******s, and the way the rich and powerful dodge legal consequences for the stuff they actively do (as opposed to the made-up **** they pushed on the country).

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Hey, it's not easy providing balance to all the stupid **** you guys post in here. It's important to remind libs that they suck just as much as the MAGA folks they mock.

If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

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Good post (although I like to think I suck somewhat less than the MAGA folks I mock, but that's just my perspective).

So much of the "news" these days constitutes "So and So said X!", followed by "When So and So said X, What's His Name responded by saying Y!!".

It's just garbage to get clicks.

Ouch.

A MAGA guy does not like my opinions. I have succeeded.

I'm happy

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

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— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 24, 2025

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…..and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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It's analogous to gish gallop. It is to Trump's advantage that you get buried in such a giant dung heap that you disengage.

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No. It is the wise person that doesn't get distracted by the minutiae of the day to day stuff that Trump says and posts on social media. That's all distraction. That's all the stupid stuff you waste your time on every day.

The important things to focus on are the pointless wars we support, the way money gets siphoned from hard working people to rich *******s, and the way the rich and powerful dodge legal consequences for the stuff they actively do (as opposed to the made-up **** they pushed on the country).

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For you is there such a thing as too many dramatic headlines or hair on fire stories relating to the shortcomings of the Democratic Party?

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Hey, it's not easy providing balance to all the stupid **** you guys post in here. It's important to remind libs that they suck just as much as the MAGA folks they mock.

If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

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Given your prolific posting history, you would miss this forum more than most. That's obvious. You would give a lot of thought to the people and what went on here.

Not for nothing, but I think it is fair to say that people are here for a few different reasons, a lot of them are not good. I think (and this list is not all inclusive), there are people here because:

--Narcissism
--Troubled in their every day and looking for a way to avoid
--Anger management (probably CIGs is a good example)
--Loneliness (my guess is BS88 for this one)
--Marital and or family problems
--Hard to pin strife in their lives (I'll put myself down here)
--Needing a sense of community (probably Aun here)
--Have fun trolling (Pac Tenner)
--on the spectrum (Minot and lover)

Happy Holidays everyone in our wonderful community.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

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If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

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Cool story.

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On my disappearancehttps://t.co/Oe1E1ftORW

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 24, 2025

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…..and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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It's analogous to gish gallop. It is to Trump's advantage that you get buried in such a giant dung heap that you disengage.

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No. It is the wise person that doesn't get distracted by the minutiae of the day to day stuff that Trump says and posts on social media. That's all distraction. That's all the stupid stuff you waste your time on every day.

The important things to focus on are the pointless wars we support, the way money gets siphoned from hard working people to rich *******s, and the way the rich and powerful dodge legal consequences for the stuff they actively do (as opposed to the made-up **** they pushed on the country).

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For you is there such a thing as too many dramatic headlines or hair on fire stories relating to the shortcomings of the Democratic Party?

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Hey, it's not easy providing balance to all the stupid **** you guys post in here. It's important to remind libs that they suck just as much as the MAGA folks they mock.

If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

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Given your prolific posting history, you would miss this forum more than most. That's obvious. You would give a lot of thought to the people and what went on here.

Not for nothing, but I think it is fair to say that people are here for a few different reasons, a lot of them are not good. I think (and this list is not all inclusive), there are people here because:

--Narcissism
--Troubled in their every day and looking for a way to avoid
--Anger management (probably CIGs is a good example)
--Loneliness (my guess is BS88 for this one)
--Marital and or family problems
--Hard to pin strife in their lives (I'll put myself down here)
--Needing a sense of community (probably Aun here)
--Have fun trolling (Pac Tenner)
--on the spectrum (Minot and lover)

Happy Holidays everyone in our wonderful community.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

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Lol. The fact you took the time out to type all that proves how much we all live in your head.

Maybe less personal attacks (flagged btw), more focus on unity.

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On my disappearancehttps://t.co/Oe1E1ftORW

— Ken Klippenstein (NSPM-7 Compliant) (@kenklippenstein) December 24, 2025

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…..and you can see why people disengage from the news. It's not they don't care, lack "media literacy," or any of the usual explanations. They look at the hurricane of sensational headlines and aren't sure what they're supposed to do with any of it or if they should even believe it. And they're right.

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It's analogous to gish gallop. It is to Trump's advantage that you get buried in such a giant dung heap that you disengage.

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No. It is the wise person that doesn't get distracted by the minutiae of the day to day stuff that Trump says and posts on social media. That's all distraction. That's all the stupid stuff you waste your time on every day.

The important things to focus on are the pointless wars we support, the way money gets siphoned from hard working people to rich *******s, and the way the rich and powerful dodge legal consequences for the stuff they actively do (as opposed to the made-up **** they pushed on the country).

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For you is there such a thing as too many dramatic headlines or hair on fire stories relating to the shortcomings of the Democratic Party?

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Hey, it's not easy providing balance to all the stupid **** you guys post in here. It's important to remind libs that they suck just as much as the MAGA folks they mock.

If they ever get smart and shut down this cesspool of a forum though, I wouldn't give a thought to any of you ever again.

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Given your prolific posting history, you would miss this forum more than most. That's obvious. You would give a lot of thought to the people and what went on here.

Not for nothing, but I think it is fair to say that people are here for a few different reasons, a lot of them are not good. I think (and this list is not all inclusive), there are people here because:

--Narcissism
--Troubled in their every day and looking for a way to avoid
--Anger management (probably CIGs is a good example)
--Loneliness (my guess is BS88 for this one)
--Marital and or family problems
--Hard to pin strife in their lives (I'll put myself down here)
--Needing a sense of community (probably Aun here)
--Have fun trolling (Pac Tenner)
--on the spectrum (Minot and lover)

Happy Holidays everyone in our wonderful community.

UNITY OVER DIVISION

VOTE BLUE

Go Bears Forever

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I'm 3 or 4 of the eight (but which 3 or 4?): Also:

-wants to make the world a better place and thus is sharing his wisdom (which certainly could be otherwise monetized)

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