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DiabloWags said:

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Where did I attack a SPECIFIC poster?
I clearly did not.

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I have never seen such snowflakery

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Don't call out your brother Wags like that. He's the biggest snowflake here. After SBGold who has been interestingly absent lately. Probably on another timeout

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DiabloWags said:

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Since the War began, around 15 ships have crossed the Strait . . . with most being dark fleet vessels moving Iranian oil to China and India, according to Lloyd's Lust Intelligence.

Many are small Chinese tankers that make their presence and origin known to the Revokyrionary Gyard thru loudspeakers and shortwave radio.

Just the facts.

You wont get this info from Trump supporters.
They're too busy attacking posters, instead of genuinely discussing the thread topic at hand, in good faith.

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You could have said all of this without the last paragraph. Hypocrite once again as you attack posters

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Some posters are demented jerks. It is what it is.

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You're a bit rough on Barely88 there.

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Who is that?

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Not my name so idk who you're talking about. **** Miami

dajo9 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Where did I attack a SPECIFIC poster?
I clearly did not.

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I have never seen such snowflakery

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Neither have I.

America has become so soft.
Sad really.

I hope this isn't what's being taught in today's schools..

MAGA!

DiabloWags said:

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dajo9 said:

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DiabloWags said:

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Where did I attack a SPECIFIC poster?
I clearly did not.

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I have never seen such snowflakery

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Neither have I.

America has become so soft.
Sad really.

I hope this isn't what's being taught in today's schools..

MAGA!

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You must not read your own posts then

This morning's press briefing from the Pentagon:

General Dan Caine: "The Strait of Hormuz is a tactically complex environment"

Pete Hegseth: "Don't need to worry about it"



Pete Hegseth on Strait of Hormuz: 'Don't need to worry about it'

As Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, let me make clear: whoever leaked this lied.

CNN should do some fact-checking.

The U.S. has planned for Iran to try to close the strait for decades. pic.twitter.com/hSeMi13svh

— Tom Cotton (@SenTomCotton) March 13, 2026

How's the plan working out? Asking for a friend.

Good rundown of the consequences and exposures to the Hormyz shutdown country by county:

https://www.unz.com/article/choke-point-the-global-economic-consequences-of-the-persian-gulf-shutdown/

Choke Point: The Global Economic Consequences of the Persian Gulf Shutdown
How the disruption of oil, liquefied natural gas, and urea exports will cascade through the world economy
Larry C. Johnson March 10, 2026

Oil: The Immediate Shock
The abrupt closure of Persian Gulf oil exports will constitute the largest supply shock in the history of petroleum markets larger in absolute terms than the 1973 Arab oil embargo or the Iranian Revolution of 1979, both of which removed far smaller volumes, if Iran maintains the blockade for a month or longer. The International Energy Agency estimates that OECD strategic reserves could theoretically cushion a disruption for several months, but the psychological and speculative impact on oil prices would be immediate and severe.
Analysts and historical precedent suggest that oil prices could spike to anywhere between $150 and $250 per barrel or potentially higher if markets judged the disruption likely to be prolonged. At such prices, the consequences would radiate rapidly through the global economy:
Fuel costs and consumer prices. Petrol, diesel, aviation fuel, and heating oil prices have all surged. In major consuming economies the United States, Europe, China, Japan, India consumer price inflation will accelerate sharply with a prolonged disruption. Households will face dramatically higher energy bills and transport costs within weeks.
Industrial contraction. Energy-intensive manufacturing sectors petrochemicals, cement, steel, aluminium, glass will face crippling input cost increases. Many would reduce output or shut down. Supply chains across the global economy would seize as freight costs soared.
Aviation and shipping. Aviation fuel costs would make large swaths of commercial aviation economically unviable. Shipping freight rates, already elevated by fuel costs, would compound broader supply chain disruption.
Recession risk. Every major oil price shock since the 1970s has been followed by a global economic recession. A shock of this magnitude would almost certainly do the same. The IMF and World Bank have historically estimated that a $10 per barrel sustained rise in oil prices reduces global GDP growth by around 0.20.5 percentage points; a shock ten or twenty times larger would be categorically different in nature.
Here are the most vulnerable countries to this shock:
Japan
Japan is the world's most structurally vulnerable major economy to a Gulf oil shock. It imports approximately 90% of its crude oil from the Middle East, with Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Kuwait, and Qatar as its dominant suppliers. Japan has almost no domestic oil production, very limited alternative import infrastructure, and a dense industrial base dependent on petroleum. Its strategic reserves among the largest in the world at around 150 days of consumption provide a buffer, but not immunity. A prolonged closure lasting more than six months would force severe rationing, industrial curtailment, and recession. Japan's post-***ushima decision to phase down nuclear power has deepened its vulnerability by reducing the one energy source that could partly substitute.
South Korea
South Korea imports over 70% of its crude from the Middle East, with the Gulf states as its largest suppliers. Like Japan, it has negligible domestic production. Its economy is heavily industrial semiconductors, shipbuilding, petrochemicals, and steel all energy-intensive sectors that would face rapid input cost crises. South Korea maintains strategic reserves of approximately 100 days. Its proximity to Japan means both nations would compete for limited alternative supply from West Africa, North America, and Russia, driving prices higher still.
India
India is the world's third-largest oil importer and sources roughly 6065% of its crude from the Gulf region, primarily Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. It has limited domestic production and strategic reserves of only around 1015 days among the smallest relative to import volume of any major economy. India's fuel subsidy architecture means the government would face enormous fiscal pressure as global oil prices surged, at the same moment that import costs were consuming foreign exchange reserves. For India's 1.4 billion population many of whom have limited financial buffers the pass-through of energy and food cost increases would be devastating. India's industrial heartland, its agricultural sector (which depends heavily on diesel for irrigation pumps), and its nascent manufacturing base would all be severely disrupted.
Taiwan
Taiwan imports almost all of its energy requirements and sources a significant majority of its oil from the Gulf. As the world's primary producer of advanced semiconductors, a disruption to Taiwan's energy supply would carry consequences far beyond its own economy threatening global technology supply chains. Taiwan's strategic reserves are modest, and alternative supply routes would be expensive and slow to establish.
Pakistan and Bangladesh
Both nations are heavily dependent on Gulf oil imports and have almost no strategic reserves, limited foreign exchange, and large populations with high fuel and food price sensitivity. Pakistan in particular has endured recurring foreign exchange crises; a surge in import costs would likely trigger a balance-of-payments collapse. For Bangladesh, fuel price increases would threaten the cost competitiveness of its garment sector the backbone of its export economy as well as the diesel-powered irrigation that supports its rice production.
Sub-Saharan Africa (Particularly Kenya, Ethiopia, Tanzania)
Many sub-Saharan African nations depend on Gulf oil for a large majority of their refined product imports, with minimal domestic refining capacity and no strategic stockpiles. Countries like Kenya, Ethiopia, and Tanzania would face acute fuel shortages, with knock-on effects on transport, electricity generation, and agricultural supply chains. Governments with limited foreign reserves would be unable to sustain imports at elevated prices for any prolonged period.



Urea exposure:


Conclusion

The Persian Gulf is not merely an important trade route it is a structural dependency baked into the global economy over seven decades. The simultaneous disruption of oil, LNG, and urea flows from the region constitute a polycrisis of exceptional severity: an energy shock, an industrial shock, and a food security crisis arriving together, reinforcing one another, and challenging the capacity of governments, international institutions, and markets to respond.

Decades of optimisation around cost efficiency concentrating energy production, fertiliser manufacture, and shipping in the most economical locations has created a system that is efficient in stable conditions but catastrophically fragile under stress. If Iran is able to sustain the closure of the Strait of Hormuz for a month or more, it will enjoy significant leverage in negotiations to end the blockade."

BearlySane88 said:

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> Have your friend hmu

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mostly clueless i googled it, learning..

Quote:

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What "HMU" Means "HMU" is an acronym that stands for "hit me up," and it's used when you want someone to contact you in regards to something. For example, if you want to see someone but you're not sure when they're free, you can say "HMU when you want to hang out!"

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Filled up this morning.


MAGA!

BearlySane88 said:

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As Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, let me make clear: whoever leaked this lied.

CNN should do some fact-checking.

The U.S. has planned for Iran to try to close the strait for decades. pic.twitter.com/hSeMi13svh

— Tom Cotton (@SenTomCotton) March 13, 2026

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Trump's ownership of his minions' credibility and dignity goes much further than simply making them spout demonstrable lies…..he demands that they literally walk around looking like clowns as the world mocks them:


Rubio in his Ringling Brothers shoes gifted to him by Trump. I suppose it could have been worse:

BearlySane88 said:

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As Chairman of the Intelligence Committee, let me make clear: whoever leaked this lied.

CNN should do some fact-checking.

The U.S. has planned for Iran to try to close the strait for decades. pic.twitter.com/hSeMi13svh

— Tom Cotton (@SenTomCotton) March 13, 2026

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Tom Cotton is a huge Trump sycophant. Nobody in their right mind trusts him where his god-king's reputation is on the line.

Hegseth's got it all figured out.

Guys, relax, the only risk in transiting the Strait of Hormuz is that Iran will shoot a missile at your ship. Otherwise it's open for transit.

An all-time quote from our Secretary of War. pic.twitter.com/kwQ5Ij84KT

— Ryan Petersen (@typesfast) March 13, 2026

How quickly this clown show falls back on excuses.

BREAKING: JD Vance blames soaring gas prices on Joe Biden.
pic.twitter.com/x4J4k20gFZ

— Republicans against Trump (@RpsAgainstTrump) March 13, 2026

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Were you calling out Biden for inflation during his term? He would have killed for these numbers in his first 3 years

Asymmetric warfare is not kind.
Drip...drip...drip ...

Where would this large force have their staging ground and logistics hub?

This is one of the main differences with the Iraq war, US forces have no strategic depth.

Iranian strategy is a combination of Viet Cong and Ukraine war tactics, everything underground like the VCs and heavy reliance on stand off weapons as seen in Ukraine.

We were war gaming the Iranians closing the straight of hormuz as lieutenants back in 2010.

You would be hard pressed to find a single officer in the entire US military that hasn't had a few conversations about this obvious tactic on the part of the Iranians.

It is the fakest… https://t.co/BWshFhU0JB

— 🐺 (@LeighWolf) March 13, 2026

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Hegseth's got it all figured out.

Guys, relax, the only risk in transiting the Strait of Hormuz is that Iran will shoot a missile at your ship. Otherwise it's open for transit.

An all-time quote from our Secretary of War. pic.twitter.com/kwQ5Ij84KT

— Ryan Petersen (@typesfast) March 13, 2026

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"The beach is open for swimming should Dr. Evil not release these 20 great white sharks with lasers."

dajo9 said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.

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Yes, so no complaining allowed from American gasoline consumers. The American oil companies stand to get rich so everybody else needs to keep their mouth shut. Trump and the American oil companies are willing to accept your sacrifices.

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nothing makes more sense than making money off of the backs and lives of sacrificial Marines
and taking investment advice from someone who admittedly passes of the investment stuff to their partner and who's contribution to the Economy board is constituted primarily of memes from rando kool aid sunshine pumpers. That said, the WSJ has a lengthy article on those companies in the US that will benefit from this. One such sector is fertilizers that flow thru the strait. May signal more handouts for farmers. Oh, but the WSJ is "MMM" and off limits, forgot. Me, personally, I wouldn't stoop to such a base level.

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BearlySane88 said:

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We were war gaming the Iranians closing the straight of hormuz as lieutenants back in 2010.

You would be hard pressed to find a single officer in the entire US military that hasn't had a few conversations about this obvious tactic on the part of the Iranians.

It is the fakest… https://t.co/BWshFhU0JB

— 🐺 (@LeighWolf) March 13, 2026

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I'm not saying that they didn't see it as a possibility (and neither is the piece that this guy's tweet is responding to), but "this can't be true" in response to the premise because of something they did when our current quarterback was 3 years old seems a bit stupid.

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They have had contingencies for this for years, it's foolish to think that they only talked about it once 16 years ago

Haloski said:

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Haloski said:

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BearlySane88 said:

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We were war gaming the Iranians closing the straight of hormuz as lieutenants back in 2010.

You would be hard pressed to find a single officer in the entire US military that hasn't had a few conversations about this obvious tactic on the part of the Iranians.

It is the fakest… https://t.co/BWshFhU0JB

— 🐺 (@LeighWolf) March 13, 2026

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I'm not saying that they didn't see it as a possibility (and neither is the piece that this guy's tweet is responding to), but "this can't be true" in response to the premise because of something they did when our current quarterback was 3 years old seems a bit stupid.

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They have had contingencies for this for years, it's foolish to think that they only talked about it once 16 years ago

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Agreed, but then again… nobody's saying that except for you. As usual, the truth is somewhere in between. Here's to them having a plan that addresses this in short order.

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Make no mistake, this claim by the Administration and its supporters is yet another example of a straw man argument


CNN never said the Administration didn't PLAN for the Strait being closed. They said that the Administration UNDERESTIMATED that possibility.

Its shocking how bad the reading comprehension is of Pete Hegseth, Caroline Leavitt, and the typical Trumper.