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In reply to DiabloWags • 4:23p, 3/20/26
guiding principle for big oil selling gas to pliant consumers is all the market will bear and not a penny less
# global warming (and us) be darned, aka be the frog
sighned, not dead yet # funk trunk
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In reply to DiabloWags • 4:26p, 3/20/26
DiabloWags said:
Somehow, I don't think that post just 2 weeks ago from a Trump supporter on March 6th claiming that gas will stay under $4.00 a gallon is gonna age well.



I don't recall that post. I do recall a post by a misinformed poster claiming that gas was $8 a gallon in Los Angeles. It made me laugh.
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In reply to dajo9 • 8:41p, 3/20/26
dajo9 said:
BearlySane88 said:
The United States can maintain gas prices under 4 dollars based strictly on Canadian and US reserves and refining

As a net exporter of petroleum products and crude oil, the U.S. overall makes more revenue when fossil fuel prices rise

The strategic reserve is about 58% full. This is up from historic lows of around 350 million barrels in 2022-2023 after major drawdowns

Careful who you listen to. Money is made by selling panic.

Yes, so no complaining allowed from American gasoline consumers. The American oil companies stand to get rich so everybody else needs to keep their mouth shut. Trump and the American oil companies are willing to accept your sacrifices.


God Bless Big Oil.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-touted-falling-gas-prices-now-says-make-lot-money-go-rcna263169

MAGA!
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10:48p, 3/20/26


Iran is going to to save us
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10:15a, 3/21/26
Israeli Defense Minister says attacks on Iran will "increase significantly" next week.

Contrary to Pete Hegseth's criticism a week ago of CNN for its news ticker stating that the war is "intensifying"... it certainly appears that the War is in fact "intensifying".

Hegseth has advocated for a more favorable media narrative, urging the press to focus on themes like "Iran increasingly desperate" rather than focusing on the intensification of the conflict.

On March 11th, Trump said that there were was "practically nothing left to target."

And yet Iran launched missiles that hit Diego Garcia Airbase 2500 miles away in the Indian Ocean nearly 10 days after Trump's claim.

Sure sounds like things are "intensifying".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-hints-wind-down-war-051853034.html


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In reply to DiabloWags • 11:56a, 3/21/26
Iran has also allegedly hit at least one Israeli F-16 over its territory. Pretty plausible considering they have hit an F-35, which is a much harder challenge. So intensifying an air campaign over Iran is not a given.

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12:01p, 3/21/26
For those that are terribly uninformed like our President and thinking that ships should be "encouraged" to pass thru the Strait ... the shipping lane is only 2 miles wide in both directions, with a 2 mile buffer.

Recall that the Houthi's waged a 2-month long campaign with missiles, drones, and unmanned boats against international shipping last year that parallels Iran's closure of the strait.

The U.S. struck more than a thousand targets in Yemen, but never succeeded in fully halting the Houthi attacks until a truce was reached in May.

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In reply to DiabloWags • 12:27p, 3/21/26
DiabloWags said:
For those that are terribly uninformed like our President and thinking that ships should be "encouraged" to pass thru the Strait ... the shipping lane is only 2 miles wide in both directions, with a 2 mile buffer.

Recall that the Houthi's waged a 2-month long campaign with missiles, drones, and unmanned boats against international shipping last year that parallels Iran's closure of the strait.

The U.S. struck more than a thousand targets in Yemen, but never succeeded in fully halting the Houthi attacks until a truce was reached in May.



Thanks for confirming that Iran essentially closed the Strait prior to this year.
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In reply to DiabloWags • 1:39p, 3/21/26
DiabloWags said:
For those that are terribly uninformed like our President and thinking that ships should be "encouraged" to pass thru the Strait ... the shipping lane is only 2 miles wide in both directions, with a 2 mile buffer.

Recall that the Houthi's waged a 2-month long campaign with missiles, drones, and unmanned boats against international shipping last year that parallels Iran's closure of the strait.

The U.S. struck more than a thousand targets in Yemen, but never succeeded in fully halting the Houthi attacks until a truce was reached in May.


The Iranians are saving a lot of their missiles burried in silos near the coast for the opportunity to hit a big target on the Strait.

Someone should send Trump and his cable TV generals a synopsis of the Gallipoli fiasco.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign

Famous navy saying, coined by admiral Nelson: "A ship's a fool to fight a fort".
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In reply to DiabloWags • 5:31p, 3/21/26
DiabloWags said:
Israeli Defense Minister says attacks on Iran will "increase significantly" next week.

Contrary to Pete Hegseth's criticism a week ago of CNN for its news ticker stating that the war is "intensifying"... it certainly appears that the War is in fact "intensifying".

Hegseth has advocated for a more favorable media narrative, urging the press to focus on themes like "Iran increasingly desperate" rather than focusing on the intensification of the conflict.

On March 11th, Trump said that there were was "practically nothing left to target."

And yet Iran launched missiles that hit Diego Garcia Airbase 2500 miles away in the Indian Ocean nearly 10 days after Trump's claim.

Sure sounds like things are "intensifying".

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-hints-wind-down-war-051853034.html

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In reply to Cal88 • 3:06p, 3/22/26
Does Iran have hypersonic missiles?
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In reply to Aunburdened • 3:11p, 3/22/26
The UK is too busy importing a permanent welfare class, killing industry, expelling business owners/ investors, and enabling industrial-scale child gang r*pe, torture, and traffic gangs. Which is a country going downhill fast. The average British household has an income level below the average Mississippi household.
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In reply to movielover • 3:28p, 3/22/26
movielover said:
Does Iran have hypersonic missiles?


Yes.

For the UK living standards, you have to factor in healthcare and education costs (though UK tuition system is halfway between the US and Europe, college is not free there.)
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In reply to movielover • 5:51p, 3/22/26
movielover said:
The UK is too busy importing a permanent welfare class, killing industry, expelling business owners/ investors, and enabling industrial-scale child gang r*pe, torture, and traffic gangs. Which is a country going downhill fast. The average British household has an income level below the average Mississippi household.


They stopped manufacturing stuff a long time ago.
They have transitioned into a financial service hub.
The only thing that now comes to mind are McLarens, Aston Martins, Triumphs, and Rolls Royce engines.
They also manufacture a lot of pharmaceuticals.

The Country called CALIFORNIA is still ahead of it in nominal GDP:

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6:02p, 3/22/26
This is the only game in town.

The Saudi "East-West" Pipeline was conceived of 40 years ago and now is a key safety valve for exporting 3.7 million barrels a day out of Saudi Aramco to Yanbu in the Red Sea.

It was a by-product of an earlier conflict - - - the 1980's Iran/Iraq War.
Before now, it was only seeing 800,000 barrels per day travel through it.



The Saudi oil pipeline the world didn't know it needed


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6:41a, 3/23/26
TACO



Said Whitkoff and Jared Kushner have been speaking with someone in Iran that is "widely respected"
"Perfect discussions," said Trump.

"We want to get the nuclear dust back.... we want to get it back"

The Strait will be "jointly-controlled"

Iran's foreign ministry says there have been no direct talks with the U.S.


Trump orders War Dept to postpone strikes on Iranian energy sites, citing 'productive' talks to end war



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7:36a
Christiane Amanpour, formerly of CNN, grew up in Tehran, college in London I believe.
Father is from Persia. Mother is English.

Here she reviews the history of Iran and the causes of this war.

She has a new podcast and I'm reminded of her and how great she is. Time to revisit her often!


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In reply to concordtom • 8:01a
concordtom said:
Christiane Amanpour, formerly of CNN, grew up in Tehran, college in London I believe.
Father is from Persia. Mother is English.



She's still with CNN.
She has a 1-hour show on Saturday's called the Amanpour Hour.
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8:09a
Amanpour says a major issue of contention in negotiating the end of war is this:


As of early 2026, reports indicate Iran holds a stockpile of approximately 440 kilograms (roughly 970 pounds) of uranium enriched up to 60% purity, not 400 pounds. This high-purity material, just below weapons-grade, is considered sufficient to potentially build multiple nuclear bombs, with the IAEA unable to fully verify the stockpile's status following 1 2025 conflicts.

Key details:

Stockpile Size:
Over 400 kg (over 880 lbs) of 60% enriched uranium was reported by the IAEA before and after 2025 strikes, with recent estimates reaching ~441 kg in June 2025.

Weaponization Risk: This level of enrichment is a "short, technical step" from the 90% weapons-grade required for a nuclear weapon, with estimates suggesting enough material for as many as 10-11 bombs if further refined.
Verification Concerns: Following 2025 airstrikes, the IAEA has reported difficulties verifying the location and safety of this material.

Disputed Status: While Iran has stated it moved the material and claims a peaceful program, the IAEA has expressed concern about the lack of monitoring access.



She says it doesn't look like the regime will be toppled, and they will insist upon keeping this stockpile, which is worth 10 nuclear bombs, to ensure that this sudden bombing upon them NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.

She said Trump got rid of all the regional experts in government (like her ex husband Jamie Rubin, with whom their podcast The Ex Files, and who I used to deliver documents to) and has stumbled into this without knowing what he was doing.
Ya think?
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In reply to DiabloWags • 8:12a
Thx for the correction.
Of course!
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In reply to Cal88 • 8:15a
Cal88 said:




Including eggs?





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8:19a
TACO

Takes some pressure off of the oil markets and stock market.
Also gives the U.S. time to get their naval assets and marine expeditionary force in place.

A 5-day respite.

But Iran says that they aren't aware of any direct discussions and claim that Trump pulled a TACO because Iran announced that they would retaliate by hitting energy infrastructure and power plants.






Trump says US has 'major points of agreement' in talks with Iran | Reuters

Iran Calls BS on TACO Trump's Peace Talks Claim
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8:45a
At the very least, the chokepoint of all chokepoints (Strait of Hormuz) will most likely lead to either more diversification away from fossil fuels and into alternative energy or a massive mobilization of public and private capital aimed at addressing these newly-exposed shortages and becoming more nationalistic in resource security.

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In reply to Cal88 • 9:55a
Cal88 said:
DiabloWags said:
For those that are terribly uninformed like our President and thinking that ships should be "encouraged" to pass thru the Strait ... the shipping lane is only 2 miles wide in both directions, with a 2 mile buffer.

Recall that the Houthi's waged a 2-month long campaign with missiles, drones, and unmanned boats against international shipping last year that parallels Iran's closure of the strait.

The U.S. struck more than a thousand targets in Yemen, but never succeeded in fully halting the Houthi attacks until a truce was reached in May.


The Iranians are saving a lot of their missiles burried in silos near the coast for the opportunity to hit a big target on the Strait.

Someone should send Trump and his cable TV generals a synopsis of the Gallipoli fiasco.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_campaign

Famous navy saying, coined by admiral Nelson: "A ship's a fool to fight a fort".


Colonel Douglas Macgregor: "With drones, there are two types of vessels: submarines and targets."

Did we pull our $13 billion aircraft carrier bc of a hypersonic missile threat?

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In reply to DiabloWags • 10:01a
DiabloWags said:
At the very least, the chokepoint of all chokepoints (Strait of Hormuz) will most likely lead to either more diversification away from fossil fuels and into alternative energy or a massive mobilization of public and private capital aimed at addressing these newly-exposed shortages and becoming more nationalistic in resource security.




I've been seeing stuff about cost of bombs vs cost of transition to solar/winds/batteries/transmission lines.

Once that's built out, there is no additional cost for the resource. But with petroleum, you burn it and have to keep buying more.

Trump policy sucks.
Big Oil lobbyists suck.

There's a reason why China is building g out their grid on renewables. It's cheaper.


https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/03/1167135#:~:text=to%20climate%20change.-,War%2Ddriven%20energy%20price%20spikes%20highlight%20value%20of%20renewables:%20UN,strategic%20value%20of%20renewable%20energy.
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10:09a
Trump is a real estate guy. So he wants to control the oil fields and the strait of Hormuz.

Butโ€ฆ. The sun shines everywhere.


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In reply to concordtom • 10:32a
concordtom said:
Cal88 said:

Including eggs?





If you're going to highlight the price of eggs, it's only fair to chart the price data through March 2026 not through March 2025.
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In reply to concordtom • 10:32a
concordtom said:
DiabloWags said:
At the very least, the chokepoint of all chokepoints (Strait of Hormuz) will most likely lead to either more diversification away from fossil fuels and into alternative energy or a massive mobilization of public and private capital aimed at addressing these newly-exposed shortages and becoming more nationalistic in resource security.




I've been seeing stuff about cost of bombs vs cost of transition to solar/winds/batteries/transmission lines.

Once that's built out, there is no additional cost for the resource. But with petroleum, you burn it and have to keep buying more.

Trump policy sucks.
Big Oil lobbyists suck.

There's a reason why China is building g out their grid on renewables. It's cheaper.


https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/03/1167135#:~:text=to%20climate%20change.-,War%2Ddriven%20energy%20price%20spikes%20highlight%20value%20of%20renewables:%20UN,strategic%20value%20of%20renewable%20energy.


California leads the nation in the Green Follies and hence energy prices, which affect everything. Our prices are double many other states. BTW, Ivanpah failed.

Cheaper?
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In reply to movielover • 10:50a
movielover said:




Why do you continue to post this terribly MISLEADING claim by Alexander Muse when you've been told it's BOGUS before?

The U.S. does NOT produce more oil than Saudi Arabia and Russia combined.
Not even close.

No wonder why this guy dropped out of University of Texas.
His reading comprehension sucks.
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In reply to Eastern Oregon Bear • 11:19a
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
concordtom said:
Cal88 said:

Including eggs?





If you're going to highlight the price of eggs, it's only fair to chart the price data through March 2026 not through March 2025.


It was the chart I found.
Please add to itโ€ฆ
I saw this:




So, if food prices start going up, let's hammer them hard. YOU DID THIS!!

At any rate, my egg post was meant simply to be humorous. Because who really gives a F about the price of a few eggs, yet it got so much coverage and commentary here.

I frankly agree with Trump. Shut the hell ip about the eggs.
We are fighting a massive economic inflation and people are talking about eggs (which was driven by bird flu anyway)?
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In reply to concordtom • 12:32p
concordtom said:
Eastern Oregon Bear said:
concordtom said:
Cal88 said:

Including eggs?





If you're going to highlight the price of eggs, it's only fair to chart the price data through March 2026 not through March 2025.


It was the chart I found.
Please add to itโ€ฆ
I saw this:




So, if food prices start going up, let's hammer them hard. YOU DID THIS!!

At any rate, my egg post was meant simply to be humorous. Because who really gives a F about the price of a few eggs, yet it got so much coverage and commentary here.

I frankly agree with Trump. Shut the hell ip about the eggs.
We are fighting a massive economic inflation and people are talking about eggs (which was driven by bird flu anyway)?


Yes, liberals here hammered Trump in 2025 for the rising price of eggs even though he had nothing to do with it. He worked to bring the price down. Much of that was fictional anyway as folks inflicted by TDS complained about $9.99 eggs when they could still buy eggs at Trader Joe's for $4.99 or two dozen at Costco for $8.99. Liberals now are hammering Trump for the price of eggs even though it is solely based on fiction caused by a poor interpretation of a graph and not based on reality whatsoever.

I can still buy eggs at Trader Joe's for $3.49.
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1:11p
What better time to spend almost a billion taxpayer dollars to abandon a big alternative energy project?

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