The slow death of MAGA

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concordtom
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Anarchistbear said:

She should have jaw work

That's a disgusting comment.
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

Cal88 said:



You know you want to shoot her too?

Have y'all gone into the male gutter?
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SBGold said:

Those jowls be hanging

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OMG, I can't believe what I'm reading!
What began as men criticizing, yet again, a woman's appearance (attraction-unattraction) has placed Mr. Falice on the stand.

SBGold said:

100%

I've never heard her say anything. She can fill a pair of black leather pants though

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You see? It goes on!
wifeisafurd
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The next two years will suck, and Trump then becomes a lame duck. And the GOP gets to pick up the pieces of where it goes next. Hopefully the GOP changes direction or the Dems don't blow it again. But Trumpism will be gone, with Trump leaving. There are no real successors.
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wifeisafurd said:

The next two years will suck….


This is what they voted for.


…Even though it was well understood and known. Duh!
Rather than join in the protests, some spent their time criticizing the voices against what was obvious, even if said protest voices were as innocuous as opinions on some random sports blog site.

Welcome to the Woke world. But when did the moment of Awakening occur ?
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Lord Chamberlain sure looks dignified in his tuxedo, doesn't he?!




Neville Chamberlain and Adolf Hitler met three times, all in September 1938, during the Sudetenland crisis.

The Three Meetings (with exact dates and locations)

1. Berchtesgaden: 15 September 1938

Chamberlain flew to Hitler's mountain residence to discuss the Sudetenland crisis.


2. Bad Godesberg: 22-23 September 1938

A second meeting where Hitler escalated his demands and threatened war if they were not met by October 1.


3. Munich: 29-30 September 1938

Chamberlain met Hitler again during the Munich Conference, which produced the Munich Agreement.
concordtom
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Yeah, call me smug.

I pride myself on vomiting on Trump from the very beginning in 2015, all the way through.
Yeah, I've been on the losers side of this tragic cultural shift. Mock me.
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wifeisafurd said:

The next two years will suck, and Trump then becomes a lame duck. And the GOP gets to pick up the pieces of where it goes next. Hopefully the GOP changes direction or the Dems don't blow it again. But Trumpism will be gone, with Trump leaving. There are no real successors.


And yes!
Thank you very much for your honest post!!

May more posts like this transpire all across this country!!


SBGold
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This would be a great outcome actually. These dark ages are dark

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The show goes on!



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wifeisafurd
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concordtom said:

wifeisafurd said:

The next two years will suck….


This is what they voted for.


…Even though it was well understood and known. Duh!
Rather than join in the protests, some spent their time criticizing the voices against what was obvious, even if said protest voices were as innocuous as opinions on some random sports blog site.

Welcome to the Woke world. But when did the moment of Awakening occur ?

My moment occurred during T1 when it became clear Trump was out of his league and there was this amazing churning of senior government that Trump himself picked. I'm less into the cultural wars than you guys, but Trump does not provide competent leadership. I blame T2 on the people who run the Democratic Party and the legacy media. I chose to voice my objections in a more refined manner because I just think that is more persuasive, and I jump on the outrageous claims on the left (e.g., Gold) because it turns people so far off they vote for a candidate like Trump.

The unfortunate thing about the word Woke is that in Black American vernacular is was to become aware of systemic social injustices and racial prejudice against Blacks, but the term now has since been largely co-opted as a pejorative political term to criticize progressive policies such as diversity programs or even the perceived slated media. The recently fired head of marketing for Cal Sports, who was terrible at her job, and was called a Woke hire continuously on BI because she was a black woman, when instead she really was just incompetent, and reported to an AD who no ability to ascertain just how incompetent she was. It is a term than has become to represent far more than intended, and even a lot Blacks have become to hate the term the way it used.

Which gets me to if the Dems run another "Woke" platform combined with Sanders type socialism, they won't win the White House or Congress. .It would also help if they didn't conspiratorially hide things like the President's failed health or that their Congressman was a known serial rapist. You can't try and take the higher ground against guys like Trump if you are not on the higher ground. Like I said, assuming the Dems don't blow it.
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wifeisafurd said:

The unfortunate thing about the word Woke is that in Black American vernacular is was to become aware of systemic social injustices and racial prejudice against Blacks, but the term now has since been largely co-opted as a pejorative political term to criticize progressive policies such as diversity programs or even the perceived slated media. The recently fired head of marketing for Cal Sports, who was terrible at her job, and was called a Woke hire continuously on BI because she was a black woman, when instead she really was just incompetent, and reported to an AD who no ability to ascertain just how incompetent she was. It is a term than has become to represent far more than intended, and even a lot Blacks have become to hate the term the way it used.

Cal sports is hardly discussed in the OT forum. Any discussion about the marketing director occurred in the football forum where 80+% of the posters are libs.
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I'm down with your response. Thank you.

To me, woke is not just black injustices or Latinos or LGBTQ, it's being educated about the BS that we see all around us.

Bearister posts regularly about how Trump is using his position to profit financially.

And Sheldon Whitehouse speaks regularly about how corporate money buys our government. To wit, I posted earlier about Schlossberg…. In that interview he said, I think, that corporate "donations" represented 80% of all political donations in the most recent cycle. And the bulk of that was by fewer digits on my body. (That's a good assertion for me to fact check.). So, WAKE UP, people, to how bad Citizens United is.

And WAKE UP to how broadcast machines like FoxNews and Facebook and all the rest of the propaganda outlets push the most corrupt and "incompetent" person upon us, and make us think it's as great as apple pie.

That's woke, to me.
Education is the solution!

I really wish you'd stop blaming opponents. Every dumb MF who checked the box is responsible for their own dumb MF vote, regardless of how poor our screams about it hit.

That's akin (in my head, which I know you think is rattled) to having a fit of "it's wrong) at the gates of Auschwitz, and then the guards saying, "hurry up and kill them now - the quicker we do it the sooner he has nothing left to complain about." And then they blame the screamer for screaming - "well, if you hadn't made such a fuss…"

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It's not necessary for the Democrats to "take the higher ground" to win elections. They could have won in 2024 if any of the following happened:

1. If Trump didn't move his head during a campaign speech.
2. If multiple attempts at lawfare succeeded.
3. If Elon Musk didn't buy Twitter.
4. If the Democrats didn't replace Biden with Kamala at the last minute.
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Furd: "I'm less into the cultural wars than you guys"

Proceeds to write 1 1/2 paragraphs on the culture wars. They are obsessed with this stuff.
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Speaking of woke, wifey just can't quit me with the strays.

The backpedaling by this guy rivals that of an all pro defensive back.

Dems 100% have moral high ground over conservatives because they are not evil. Intelligent people know this and don't try to equate the two.

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LOL.

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SBGold said:

Speaking of woke, wifey just can't quit me with the strays.

The backpedaling by this guy rivals that of an all pro defensive back.

Dems 100% have moral high ground over conservatives because they are not evil. Intelligent people know this and don't try to equate the two.

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I needed a laugh, thanks for that last paragraph
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SBGold said:

Speaking of woke, wifey just can't quit me with the strays.



I've been there

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The Republicans have RINO's, Panicans, and fake MAGA.

Are there equivalents in the Democratic Party?
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PAC-10-BEAR said:

wifeisafurd said:

The unfortunate thing about the word Woke is that in Black American vernacular is was to become aware of systemic social injustices and racial prejudice against Blacks, but the term now has since been largely co-opted as a pejorative political term to criticize progressive policies such as diversity programs or even the perceived slated media. The recently fired head of marketing for Cal Sports, who was terrible at her job, and was called a Woke hire continuously on BI because she was a black woman, when instead she really was just incompetent, and reported to an AD who no ability to ascertain just how incompetent she was. It is a term than has become to represent far more than intended, and even a lot Blacks have become to hate the term the way it used.

Cal sports is hardly discussed in the OT forum. Any discussion about the marketing director occurred in the football forum where 80+% of the posters are libs.

That may all is true, but there was a lot of piling on by posters of all political persuasions that she was a "woke" hire, which speaks to my point how the word "woke' is commonly used pejoratively.
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SBGold said:



Dems 100% have moral high ground over conservatives because they are not evil. Intelligent people know this and don't try to equate the two.



It is arrogant comments like that lead to losing elections. Trump's polling numbers went up every time Biden and Clinton opened up their mouths with this type of garbage. You are so far gone, you don't even appreciate that I have been calling out Trump on essentially every economic, personnel and foreign affairs position I have commented on in this forum. I'm smacking you down when you make up crap or use the kind of stuff that has turned the Dems a minority party in all three branches of government, notwithstanding the major opponent in the last 10 years is Donald Trump. Think about that, you are losing to Donald Trump.

Like I said, if the Dems don't screw it up.
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wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:



Dems 100% have moral high ground over conservatives because they are not evil. Intelligent people know this and don't try to equate the two.



It is arrogant comments like that lead to losing elections. Trump's polling numbers went up every time Biden and Clinton opened up their mouths with this type of garbage. You are so far gone, you don't even appreciate that I have been calling out Trump on essentially every economic, personnel and foreign affairs position I have commented on in this forum. I'm smacking you down when you make up crap or use the kind of stuff that has turned the Dems a minority party in all three branches of government, notwithstanding the major opponent in the last 10 years is Donald Trump. Think about that, you are losing to Donald Trump.

Like I said, if the Dems don't screw it up.


Actually, you lost to Donald Trump more bigly than Democrats could imagine. You lost your whole political party and brand to Trump. Trump grabbed your Republican Party by the P and made it his own little pet mouse. You dont even have a political home anymore because Trump took it, slapped his logo on it, and kicked you out into the street.
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dajo9 said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:



Dems 100% have moral high ground over conservatives because they are not evil. Intelligent people know this and don't try to equate the two.



It is arrogant comments like that lead to losing elections. Trump's polling numbers went up every time Biden and Clinton opened up their mouths with this type of garbage. You are so far gone, you don't even appreciate that I have been calling out Trump on essentially every economic, personnel and foreign affairs position I have commented on in this forum. I'm smacking you down when you make up crap or use the kind of stuff that has turned the Dems a minority party in all three branches of government, notwithstanding the major opponent in the last 10 years is Donald Trump. Think about that, you are losing to Donald Trump.

Like I said, if the Dems don't screw it up.


Actually, you lost to Donald Trump more bigly than Democrats could imagine. You lost your whole political party and brand to Trump. Trump grabbed your Republican Party by the P and made it his own little pet mouse. You dont even have a political home anymore because Trump took it, slapped his logo on it, and kicked you out into the street.

Not my party Mr. Bigly, but the GOP is in trouble with no successor, as I mentioned before. The only question is can the Democrats screw it up yet again by acting like pompous elites (as witnessed above), once again alienating potential supporters and losing touch with voters. The Dems lost to Donald Trump twice, and have are the minority party in Congress, and the reason why the rest of us have to endure more years of Trump.
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The Dems are still thinking to themselves, how did we lose to Donald Trump in the last election with all those illegals Biden let in?
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Furd likes to pretend the problem with Dems is culture wars. This is what he is really upset about.

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wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

wifeisafurd said:

SBGold said:



Dems 100% have moral high ground over conservatives because they are not evil. Intelligent people know this and don't try to equate the two.



It is arrogant comments like that lead to losing elections. Trump's polling numbers went up every time Biden and Clinton opened up their mouths with this type of garbage. You are so far gone, you don't even appreciate that I have been calling out Trump on essentially every economic, personnel and foreign affairs position I have commented on in this forum. I'm smacking you down when you make up crap or use the kind of stuff that has turned the Dems a minority party in all three branches of government, notwithstanding the major opponent in the last 10 years is Donald Trump. Think about that, you are losing to Donald Trump.

Like I said, if the Dems don't screw it up.


Actually, you lost to Donald Trump more bigly than Democrats could imagine. You lost your whole political party and brand to Trump. Trump grabbed your Republican Party by the P and made it his own little pet mouse. You dont even have a political home anymore because Trump took it, slapped his logo on it, and kicked you out into the street.

Not my party Mr. Bigly, but the GOP is in trouble with no successor, as I mentioned before. The only question is can the Democrats screw it up yet again by acting like pompous elites (as witnessed above), once again alienating potential supporters and losing touch with voters. The Dems lost to Donald Trump twice, and have are the minority party in Congress, and the reason why the rest of us have to endure more years of Trump.


Vance seems like the built in successor to me and he's popular among young republicans
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BINGO baby
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Flagged for the personal attack

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He's popular among fellow couch surfers

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SBGold said:

Flagged for the personal attack

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Lololol what are you talking about
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dajo9 said:

Furd likes to pretend the problem with Dems is culture wars. This is what he is really upset about.





Great announcement for a huge political loss. While he has the Governor's support for the tax on second homes worth over $5 million to help with NYC's huge budget deficit, the State legislature has not passed the necessary authority for the City to impose the tax, nor does Mandami presently have the votes in the City Council to pass the tax. This is supposed to be a compromise, since the New York State Legislature agreed on increasing taxes on the wealthiest New Yorkers and corporations to help both the State and NYV budget deficits, that the Governor said she would veto. It is not a great trade-off for Mandami who needed the authority to impose higher income taxes in order to address the $10B+ budget gap NYC is staring at next year. This "second mansion tax" is projected to generate $500 million annually, which is something, but not what Mandami needed. But really cool video turning a major political loss into what appears like a viral victory, for a tax that doesn't even exist and may never exist.

People who actually live in NYC don't have much choice. You can raise taxes and they'll complain, but they're tied to jobs, schools, family, etc. Luxury second-home owners? If holding a NYC residence suddenly costs a lot more every year, they can just sell and park that money somewhere else like Miami, London, Deer Valley, or wherever the rich hand out these days. If enough of them head for the exits, you could see prices at the top of the market drop. And if that happens, the city's existing property tax base drops too… which defeats the purpose of the tax. A lesson that should have been learned from the Los Angeles' mansion tax which has fallen way short of initial, higher revenue projections while contributing to a slowdown in luxury property sales and impacting multifamily construction.
https://www.credaily.com/briefs/las-mansion-tax-falls-short-on-revenue-goals/

Same old story of left politicians and capital. Capital leaves.

My problem with the Dems is that the focus on culture war issues, especially providing oxygen to more unpopular causes (e.g., raising the stakes in the fight over the ten transsexuals participating in NCAA women's sports) and making elitist asses out of themselves that is costing them national elections. I actually tend to agree more with the Dems on the culture war issues, but that really isn't the point. Why are you guys wasting your time debating Trump over trans athletes, when he is crashing the economy?

I disagree with Mandami on numerous policy issues mostly related economics. He does not represent where the rest of Dems are on many economic issues. Moreover, he really just is a foil for the GOP. Mandami has no power to raise the taxes he needs to raise for his programs and promises - the State of New York, also facing a huge deficit and declining tax base does not appear willing to give him that taxing authority. And Mandami tends to make stupid or extreme remarks that often offend the rest of the country.

Meanwhile, the NYC is facing a large inherited deficit, and a bond ratings decline, and Mandami is now cutting programs and shedding employees through-out the entire City government, while his grandiose spending plans wait on the sidelines. By the time of the next Presidential election, he won't have sufficient standing in Democratic circles to make anyone upset.
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True, here is more about where wifey is at and why he seeks to crush Dems:

https://www.ms.now/opinion/clarence-thomas-rights-democracy-constitution

Believes in the church more than the state.

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dajo9 said:

Furd likes to pretend the problem with Dems is culture wars. This is what he is really upset about.




That didn't convince me or excite me.
I'm left wondering how their empty units make nyc worse. And how it's supposedly a win for rich people to park their wealth there.

Like, isn't he saying, "hey, wealthy people, take your money elsewhere!"
Seems like a losing strategy to me.
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concordtom said:

dajo9 said:

Furd likes to pretend the problem with Dems is culture wars. This is what he is really upset about.





I'm left wondering how their empty units make nyc worse.

Developers build lots of multi-million apartments in NYC for the wealthy to buy as assets, many of them sitting empty and offering little value to society. Developers do this because the margins are better than if they built reasonable housing for average New Yorkers. Wouldn't New York, or New Yorkers, be better off if developers were actually building apartments for the average New Yorker to live in? It is part of the wealth inequality problem.

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And how it's supposedly a win for rich people to park their wealth there.

Rich people have so much wealth they are in a hunt for assets. They have already bought up stocks to record high PE ratios, they have bought bonds to interest rates that are low relative to the amount of debt outstanding, they have invested all they can in private equity, and recently created a thing called private debt for their investments. In the most recent cycle they are buying up housing assets. They have so much money they have to hunt out and buy something of value, which includes empty real estate in global cities like New York, London, Abu Dhabi, Los Angeles, Miami, and San Francisco. Then they can use the asset of a $200 million NYC penthouse to borrow against and live income free and pay no taxes.

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Like, isn't he saying, "hey, wealthy people, take your money elsewhere!"

He is trying to reduce the incentive for the rich to buy up New York and make it unaffordable for New Yorkers. However, a tax like this is so paltry it is just a little bit of extra money for the City. It won't have a real disincentive affect for developers to continue to build these kind of low social value, high margin projects. Still, a small win for the City economically, but it gets the ball roll against mass, harmful, accumulations of wealth.

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Seems like a losing strategy to me.

Yes, probably, because all the powerful interests will be against it.
 
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