"Who won the 2020 election?" vs. "What is a woman?"

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Big C
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Hard to believe why people in this country are turned off by politics, isn't it? /s

Yesterday, the Dems asked the GOP, "Who won the 2020 presidential election?" Stammer... um... I... that's not... uh...

Advantage to the truth-telling Democrats! Oh wait...

Today, the GOP asked the Dems (or somebody affiliated), "What is a woman?" Pause... gurgle... uh... well... um ...

JUST SAY WHAT YOU BELIEVE -- BOTH OF YOU -- AND ANSWER THE QUESTION, YOU TWITS!

(I am not anti-trans and would have no problem including them when I answer this question. Same with the election question, were I a Republican. It's the not answering it that is the problem!)
concordtom
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Sorry, but republicans are to blame on both fronts.
Big C
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Do explain, as I usually enjoy blaming Republicans!
Anarchistbear
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Nobody but low information voters care about either of these topics.
Big C
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Anarchistbear said:

Nobody but low information voters care about either of these topics.

I care about politicians not being to answer questions like this, so we can move on to more substantive topics. It speaks to "authenticity" (okay, also superficial, but still, that's politics).
concordtom
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concordtom said:

Sorry, but republicans are to blame on both fronts.


1. Who won? That's not even a question. It's a fact. Joe Biden goes down
In history forever and ever and ever. To try and raise it as a question is a Trump-come-Republican conspiracy. Idiots!!

2. What is a woman?
Again, republicans just trying to stir the pot for stupid people (aka, their followers).

Educated, or woke, as they like to derisively and dismissingly call others, understand that there is ge der of the body and gender of the mind - and neither is as clear cut as we once believed, which was that they were one in the same and black/white, or boy/girl as it were.

So, it's a gotcha question intended to put people back in the Duh/Uneducated camp.

Big C
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concordtom said:

concordtom said:

Sorry, but republicans are to blame on both fronts.


1. Who won? That's not even a question. It's a fact. Joe Biden goes down
In history forever and ever and ever. To try and raise it as a question is a Trump-come-Republican conspiracy. Idiots!!

2. What is a woman?
Again, republicans just trying to stir the pot for stupid people (aka, their followers).

Educated, or woke, as they like to derisively and dismissingly call others, understand that there is ge der of the body and gender of the mind - and neither is as clear cut as we once believed, which was that they were one in the same and black/white, or boy/girl as it were.

So, it's a gotcha question intended to put people back in the Duh/Uneducated camp.



They are both "gotcha" questions. It should be embarrassing as hell to be asked who won the 2020 election and to not be able to answer. I'd have more respect for them if they were just honest and said, "Look, as Republicans in 2026, we are pretty much all Trump's b_ _ _ _ _ s. That's just the way it is now, so don't waste your time asking me that question anymore. I'm proud to be Trump's b_ _ _ _!"

I agree, the "woman" question is more philosophical... and I would answer it as such, rather than just stammering.
dajo9
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concordtom is basically right about this. One question is simple and inability to answer is about cowardice in the service of one man.

The other question is very complicated (as nature is complicated) and many people want to hear what is correct 99% of the time while other people care about the well being of the 1%. Elections are popularity contests and caring about that 1% can be good but detrimental. In fact, as i write this, it is clear to me that stammering and thinking about this question is probably a sign of good character.
concordtom
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Big C said:

concordtom said:

concordtom said:

Sorry, but republicans are to blame on both fronts.


1. Who won? That's not even a question. It's a fact. Joe Biden goes down
In history forever and ever and ever. To try and raise it as a question is a Trump-come-Republican conspiracy. Idiots!!

2. What is a woman?
Again, republicans just trying to stir the pot for stupid people (aka, their followers).

Educated, or woke, as they like to derisively and dismissingly call others, understand that there is ge der of the body and gender of the mind - and neither is as clear cut as we once believed, which was that they were one in the same and black/white, or boy/girl as it were.

So, it's a gotcha question intended to put people back in the Duh/Uneducated camp.



They are both "gotcha" questions. It should be embarrassing as hell to be asked who won the 2020 election and to not be able to answer. I'd have more respect for them if they were just honest and said, "Look, as Republicans in 2026, we are pretty much all Trump's b_ _ _ _ _ s. That's just the way it is now, so don't waste your time asking me that question anymore. I'm proud to be Trump's b_ _ _ _!"

I agree, the "woman" question is more philosophical... and I would answer it as such, rather than just stammering.


The election question should not even be a question - except for the farce of pure idiocy, intended as part of a coup d'etat effort.

People need to understand what's happening here.

They will, one day, in retrospect.
My jabber jawing about it does no good, though. Except maybe if gives me a measure of psychological relief.

You'll see.
Muckieeye
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The "low information voters" blanket covers a lot of people.
Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives...
I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative.
-John Stewart Mill
wifeisafurd
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Muckieeye said:

The "low information voters" blanket covers a lot of people.

I think that is his point, and its valid.. Most people don't care or no longer care.

These are both wedge issues whose time has come and gone. Just like whether the Russians caused Clinton to lose against Trump, etc. The only thing that really has any traction is on the second question, as to whether trans can play in women's' sports, and it is pretty clear where things are headed after the Olympics did their 180 banning Trans and the recent SCOTUS decision. The next series of elections likely turn on economic issues, which usually is the case. It probably is too early for Presidential candidates to stake out strong positions, and the few Senate and Congressional races that actually are in contention in the mid-terms, likely will be referendums on Trump policies and the economy.
dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

Muckieeye said:

The "low information voters" blanket covers a lot of people.

I think that is his point, and its valid.. Most people don't care or no longer care.

These are both wedge issues whose time has come and gone. Just like whether the Russians caused Clinton to lose against Trump, etc. The only thing that really has any traction is on the second question, as to whether trans can play in women's' sports, and it is pretty clear where things are headed after the Olympics did their 180 banning Trans and the recent SCOTUS decision. The next series of elections likely turn on economic issues, which usually is the case. It probably is too early for Presidential candidates to stake out strong positions, and the few Senate and Congressional races that actually are in contention him the mod-terms, likely will be referendums on Trump policies and the economy.


It is awfully privileged to think the important thing about "what is a woman?" is who can play what sports. That is the avenue of the low information voter.
wifeisafurd
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dajo9 said:

wifeisafurd said:

Muckieeye said:

The "low information voters" blanket covers a lot of people.

I think that is his point, and its valid.. Most people don't care or no longer care.

These are both wedge issues whose time has come and gone. Just like whether the Russians caused Clinton to lose against Trump, etc. The only thing that really has any traction is on the second question, as to whether trans can play in women's' sports, and it is pretty clear where things are headed after the Olympics did their 180 banning Trans and the recent SCOTUS decision. The next series of elections likely turn on economic issues, which usually is the case. It probably is too early for Presidential candidates to stake out strong positions, and the few Senate and Congressional races that actually are in contention him the mod-terms, likely will be referendums on Trump policies and the economy.


It is awfully privileged to think the important thing about "what is a woman?" is who can play what sports. That is the avenue of the low information voter.

I don't think is privileged, it is exactly what Pew Polls say is what is important to voters these days. Transexual rights rank way, way below economic and national security concerns as an everyday priority for the general public. For the few that care strongly, the views are deeply divided on policy, with the one exception being transexual in sports, which seems to be something the general public does care about. Use whatever tigger words you like, but the average voter just doesn't care much outside the sports context.
dajo9
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wifeisafurd said:

dajo9 said:

wifeisafurd said:

Muckieeye said:

The "low information voters" blanket covers a lot of people.

I think that is his point, and its valid.. Most people don't care or no longer care.

These are both wedge issues whose time has come and gone. Just like whether the Russians caused Clinton to lose against Trump, etc. The only thing that really has any traction is on the second question, as to whether trans can play in women's' sports, and it is pretty clear where things are headed after the Olympics did their 180 banning Trans and the recent SCOTUS decision. The next series of elections likely turn on economic issues, which usually is the case. It probably is too early for Presidential candidates to stake out strong positions, and the few Senate and Congressional races that actually are in contention him the mod-terms, likely will be referendums on Trump policies and the economy.


It is awfully privileged to think the important thing about "what is a woman?" is who can play what sports. That is the avenue of the low information voter.

I don't think is privileged, it is exactly what Pew Polls say is what is important to voters these days. Transexual rights rank way, way below economic and national security concerns as an everyday priority for the general public. For the few that care strongly, the views are deeply divided on policy, with the one exception being transexual in sports, which seems to be something the general public does care about. Use whatever tigger words you like, but the average voter just doesn't care much outside the sports context.


See my comments above about people in the 99% gender-speaking who care about the 1% and how they are actually impacted - not just the politics of it - have better character.
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