concordtom said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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It seems undeniable that during a pandemic, reducing our exposure to each other reduces or at least slows the spread of the disease.

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It was all about The Curve, remember?
Slow the spread, but us time until there could be a vaccine - which eventually we got.

What's wrong with this ??

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The children refuse to acknowledge the lies from their golden calf that have been repeatedly exposed by many…including now members of their own tribe who once worshipped at the alter of the false God.

The Golden Calf wasn't science after all. pic.twitter.com/Vu98381j2C

— PlainSpokenRedneck (@BullseyeBanjo) July 30, 2026

concordtom said:

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SBGold said:

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Too much wasted on this and Paul is a moron. All anyone needs to know about this and move on to the made-up crisis is this:

""This hearing is designed to entrap you," said Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire.
Scientists also scrambled to Fauci's defense ahead of the unusual hearing the second time the longtime National Institutes of Health scientist has been back before Congress to discuss pandemic origins since leaving the government in 2022. While the COVID-19 pandemic introduced him to millions of Americans, he talked the nation through numerous outbreaks over decades, including HIV, Ebola and the 2001 anthrax attacks, while advising seven presidents.

In a public letter, more than 150 infectious-disease experts and other scientists wrote that "no credible evidence has been produced to support these absurd charges" and that they are "urging our elected representatives in Congress stop these witch-hunts."

Among topics discussed at Wednesday's hearing was whether NIH-funded research in China may have played a role in how the pandemic started.

Many scientists believe the virus most likely emerged in nature and jumped from animals to people, coming to light when it spread at a wildlife market in the Chinese city of Wuhan. There's no new scientific information supporting that the virus might instead have leaked from a laboratory, a theory Paul champions. A GOP-led subcommittee that studied the question in 2024 did not find any evidence linking Fauci to wrongdoing.
Fauci has long said publicly that he was open to both theories but that there's more evidence supporting COVID-19's natural origins."

Follow the science, not stupid partisan politicians.

VOTE BLUE AND GO BEARS FOREVER

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Going after Fauci is an attempt to repackage history of this away from Trump, who nearly died from the disease himself, and who stupidly stood the podium and tried to talk to Americans as if he was a scientist himself.

Remember when he rambled on about how maybe we could Inject sunlight into the body, or the whole swallow bleach thing?

He couldn't stand others getting the nations attention so he began to take over those hearings. Just like he couldn't stand having the winning soccer team, receive their trophy without him having his photo taken.

Thanks everybody for reminding me what this was all about.

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Lol.

COVID hit Spring 2020 and stay at home orders went into effect fairly quickly. Some states began lifting these orders in May and July. Biden became president January 2021. He didn't end the federal emergency until May 2023, after being in office for 2 1/2 years.

oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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SBGold said:

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Too much wasted on this and Paul is a moron. All anyone needs to know about this and move on to the made-up crisis is this:

""This hearing is designed to entrap you," said Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire.
Scientists also scrambled to Fauci's defense ahead of the unusual hearing the second time the longtime National Institutes of Health scientist has been back before Congress to discuss pandemic origins since leaving the government in 2022. While the COVID-19 pandemic introduced him to millions of Americans, he talked the nation through numerous outbreaks over decades, including HIV, Ebola and the 2001 anthrax attacks, while advising seven presidents.

In a public letter, more than 150 infectious-disease experts and other scientists wrote that "no credible evidence has been produced to support these absurd charges" and that they are "urging our elected representatives in Congress stop these witch-hunts."

Among topics discussed at Wednesday's hearing was whether NIH-funded research in China may have played a role in how the pandemic started.

Many scientists believe the virus most likely emerged in nature and jumped from animals to people, coming to light when it spread at a wildlife market in the Chinese city of Wuhan. There's no new scientific information supporting that the virus might instead have leaked from a laboratory, a theory Paul champions. A GOP-led subcommittee that studied the question in 2024 did not find any evidence linking Fauci to wrongdoing.
Fauci has long said publicly that he was open to both theories but that there's more evidence supporting COVID-19's natural origins."

Follow the science, not stupid partisan politicians.

VOTE BLUE AND GO BEARS FOREVER

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Going after Fauci is an attempt to repackage history of this away from Trump, who nearly died from the disease himself, and who stupidly stood the podium and tried to talk to Americans as if he was a scientist himself.

Remember when he rambled on about how maybe we could Inject sunlight into the body, or the whole swallow bleach thing?

He couldn't stand others getting the nations attention so he began to take over those hearings. Just like he couldn't stand having the winning soccer team, receive their trophy without him having his photo taken.

Thanks everybody for reminding me what this was all about.

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Lol.

COVID hit Spring 2020 and stay at home orders went into effect fairly quickly. Some states began lifting these orders in May and July. Biden became president January 2021. He didn't end the federal emergency until May 2023, after being in office for 2 1/2 years.

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You're wasting your breath.

Some people are still worshipping at the alter. they simply cannot acknowledge facts.

The Golden Calf wasn't science after all. pic.twitter.com/Vu98381j2C

— PlainSpokenRedneck (@BullseyeBanjo) July 30, 2026

How many times you gonna intensely spam here?

eNUFF!

SBGold said:

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How many times you gonna intensely spam here?

eNUFF!

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I appreciate Hanky's contributions and wouldn't classify them as intense spam.

hanky1 said:

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The Golden Calf wasn't science after all. pic.twitter.com/Vu98381j2C

— PlainSpokenRedneck (@BullseyeBanjo) July 30, 2026

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Somebody's Spotify playlist is stuck on repeat.

oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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SBGold said:

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Too much wasted on this and Paul is a moron. All anyone needs to know about this and move on to the made-up crisis is this:

""This hearing is designed to entrap you," said Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire.
Scientists also scrambled to Fauci's defense ahead of the unusual hearing the second time the longtime National Institutes of Health scientist has been back before Congress to discuss pandemic origins since leaving the government in 2022. While the COVID-19 pandemic introduced him to millions of Americans, he talked the nation through numerous outbreaks over decades, including HIV, Ebola and the 2001 anthrax attacks, while advising seven presidents.

In a public letter, more than 150 infectious-disease experts and other scientists wrote that "no credible evidence has been produced to support these absurd charges" and that they are "urging our elected representatives in Congress stop these witch-hunts."

Among topics discussed at Wednesday's hearing was whether NIH-funded research in China may have played a role in how the pandemic started.

Many scientists believe the virus most likely emerged in nature and jumped from animals to people, coming to light when it spread at a wildlife market in the Chinese city of Wuhan. There's no new scientific information supporting that the virus might instead have leaked from a laboratory, a theory Paul champions. A GOP-led subcommittee that studied the question in 2024 did not find any evidence linking Fauci to wrongdoing.
Fauci has long said publicly that he was open to both theories but that there's more evidence supporting COVID-19's natural origins."

Follow the science, not stupid partisan politicians.

VOTE BLUE AND GO BEARS FOREVER

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Going after Fauci is an attempt to repackage history of this away from Trump, who nearly died from the disease himself, and who stupidly stood the podium and tried to talk to Americans as if he was a scientist himself.

Remember when he rambled on about how maybe we could Inject sunlight into the body, or the whole swallow bleach thing?

He couldn't stand others getting the nations attention so he began to take over those hearings. Just like he couldn't stand having the winning soccer team, receive their trophy without him having his photo taken.

Thanks everybody for reminding me what this was all about.

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Lol.

COVID hit Spring 2020 and stay at home orders went into effect fairly quickly. Some states began lifting these orders in May and July. Biden became president January 2021. He didn't end the federal emergency until May 2023, after being in office for 2 1/2 years.

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So you're saying all these ghastly stay at home orders happened under Trump's watch? It figures he'd worship the Golden Calf.

It's okay for an 85 year old to be President, but not to be held accountable for covering up a lab leak

Among all the things wrong with this defense of Fauci, it's ironic for Dems to cite Fauci's advanced age (85) for why should be left alone, when they were insisting -- right up until the last minute -- that Biden be given a second term, at the end of which he'd have been 86. https://t.co/bMMG6PxNM6

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) July 29, 2026

Talking about holding Presidents accountable:

"But trump invoked the fifth amendment 400 times during his civil lawsuit."

He's a criminal Hanks, 003 and burdy, deal with that and quit spamming nonsense

VOTE Blue and Go Bears

That is not what this is about. 700k people died of Covid under Biden and he had the vaccines for the totality of his presidency. That also isn't what this is about. It's about Fauci and the potentially nefarious things already described in this thread which killed >1M Americans.

Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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SBGold said:

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Too much wasted on this and Paul is a moron. All anyone needs to know about this and move on to the made-up crisis is this:

""This hearing is designed to entrap you," said Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire.
Scientists also scrambled to Fauci's defense ahead of the unusual hearing the second time the longtime National Institutes of Health scientist has been back before Congress to discuss pandemic origins since leaving the government in 2022. While the COVID-19 pandemic introduced him to millions of Americans, he talked the nation through numerous outbreaks over decades, including HIV, Ebola and the 2001 anthrax attacks, while advising seven presidents.

In a public letter, more than 150 infectious-disease experts and other scientists wrote that "no credible evidence has been produced to support these absurd charges" and that they are "urging our elected representatives in Congress stop these witch-hunts."

Among topics discussed at Wednesday's hearing was whether NIH-funded research in China may have played a role in how the pandemic started.

Many scientists believe the virus most likely emerged in nature and jumped from animals to people, coming to light when it spread at a wildlife market in the Chinese city of Wuhan. There's no new scientific information supporting that the virus might instead have leaked from a laboratory, a theory Paul champions. A GOP-led subcommittee that studied the question in 2024 did not find any evidence linking Fauci to wrongdoing.
Fauci has long said publicly that he was open to both theories but that there's more evidence supporting COVID-19's natural origins."

Follow the science, not stupid partisan politicians.

VOTE BLUE AND GO BEARS FOREVER

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Going after Fauci is an attempt to repackage history of this away from Trump, who nearly died from the disease himself, and who stupidly stood the podium and tried to talk to Americans as if he was a scientist himself.

Remember when he rambled on about how maybe we could Inject sunlight into the body, or the whole swallow bleach thing?

He couldn't stand others getting the nations attention so he began to take over those hearings. Just like he couldn't stand having the winning soccer team, receive their trophy without him having his photo taken.

Thanks everybody for reminding me what this was all about.

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Lol.

COVID hit Spring 2020 and stay at home orders went into effect fairly quickly. Some states began lifting these orders in May and July. Biden became president January 2021. He didn't end the federal emergency until May 2023, after being in office for 2 1/2 years.

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So you're saying all these ghastly stay at home orders happened under Trump's watch? It figures he'd worship the Golden Calf.

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We needed drastic measures for a few months. Beyond that, it was draconian. The initial response was generally okay. Policy past 2020 was abysmal.

concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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It's okay for an 85 year old to be President, but not to be held accountable for covering up a lab leak

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Okay, here's something I can glom onto.
This "thought" that maybe some researchers were working on this in a lab and it leaked…. So far as I know, it remains merely a possibility, yes?

If so, I think attacking Fauci as if he's some criminal for not proceeding as if it's fact is ridiculous.

But go on, educate me. With facts, please.

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If you are going to purposely stay ignorant, why opin in the matter? As stated here hundreds of times, Fauci discredited efforts to bring to light the lab leak origin.

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/how-fauci-and-nih-leaders-worked-discredit-covid-19-lab-leak-theory

concordtom said:

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By the way, regarding people being upset about how kids were impacted via school closures, I just had a thought:

It's beats having to deal with a war. Think about anyone who lived through ww2 in Europe.
Things happen. Deal with it. Life is not linear, to quote Shocky. America has gotten soft, my goodness. If we don't get an A we go to the principal. Toughen up, people. Life will present adversity.


And yes, I have 5 children.
They were impacted.
We dealt with it.

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Also much better than aliens invading and killing everyone , so it must be okay. No reason to be upset!

concordtom said:

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tequila4kapp said:

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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

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It seems undeniable that during a pandemic, reducing our exposure to each other reduces or at least slows the spread of the disease.

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This misses the mark. People under 60, the skinny, the healthy, and those with no co-morbidities did not need to be isolated. Fat old people with co-morbidities needed the isolation.

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Did we know this at the start? No.
And further, healthy people can contribute to spread. So I think you're missing some truths.

This is ridiculous.
People want to go back and rewrite history.

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Actually, the first report came from an NYU study released @ 4 weeks after the SF stay at home order and 2 weeks after the 1st school closure in Ohio. Pretty close to the start. One study isn't going to change public policy, but this wasn't a late breaking development

oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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It's okay for an 85 year old to be President, but not to be held accountable for covering up a lab leak

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Okay, here's something I can glom onto.
This "thought" that maybe some researchers were working on this in a lab and it leaked…. So far as I know, it remains merely a possibility, yes?

If so, I think attacking Fauci as if he's some criminal for not proceeding as if it's fact is ridiculous.

But go on, educate me. With facts, please.

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If you are going to purposely stay ignorant, why opin in the matter? As stated here hundreds of times, Fauci discredited efforts to bring to light the lab leak origin.

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/how-fauci-and-nih-leaders-worked-discredit-covid-19-lab-leak-theory

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1. This is heritage foundation. They are a joke.

2. They have no Deny Cookies button, in violation of California state law, I believe. So now they are apparently tracking me. Thanks.

3. So I now understand that this angle pays zero attention to Fauci's response to:
"oh, crap, there's a killer virus out there, what should we do?!?!"

Instead, this axe to grind is all about:
"oh, crap, there's a killer virus out there, where did it come from?!?!"

And more specifically, this angle is pissed that one particular possible answer wasn't followed more vigorously.


Is this correct?

concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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It's okay for an 85 year old to be President, but not to be held accountable for covering up a lab leak

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Okay, here's something I can glom onto.
This "thought" that maybe some researchers were working on this in a lab and it leaked…. So far as I know, it remains merely a possibility, yes?

If so, I think attacking Fauci as if he's some criminal for not proceeding as if it's fact is ridiculous.

But go on, educate me. With facts, please.

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If you are going to purposely stay ignorant, why opin in the matter? As stated here hundreds of times, Fauci discredited efforts to bring to light the lab leak origin.

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/how-fauci-and-nih-leaders-worked-discredit-covid-19-lab-leak-theory

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1. This is heritage foundation. They are a joke.

2. They have no Deny Cookies button, in violation of California state law, I believe. So now they are apparently tracking me. Thanks.

3. So I now understand that this angle pays zero attention to Fauci's response to:
"oh, crap, there's a killer virus out there, what should we do?!?!"

Instead, this axe to grind is all about:
"oh, crap, there's a killer virus out there, where did it come from?!?!"

And more specifically, this angle is pissed that one particular possible answer wasn't followed more vigorously.


Is this correct?

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Again, you want to purposely stay ignorant so you can argue against something that isn't true and ignore the facts presented.

"Through its investigation, the select subcommittee has learned that Dr. Fauci and NIH exerted more influence over the conference call than previously disclosed. Further, by the end of the Feb. 1 conference call, Dr. Fauci had suggested the drafting of a paper regarding the potential of a lab leak to Dr. [Kristian] Andersen twice. This suggestion was what 'prompted' Dr. Andersen to draft 'Proximal Origin."

"So, the authors revised their paper, adding language that the lab origin was implausible, and successfully submitted it to Nature Medicine, part of the Nature portfolio of journals. The finished producttitled "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2"was published in Nature Medicine on March 17, 2020.

The Nature Medicine article, according to the subcommittee report, "is one of the single most impactful and influential scientific papers in history, and it expressed conclusions that were not based on sound science nor in fact, but instead on assumptions."

I and others have issues with many others Fauci's directives. Here, we are focusing on his immoral discrediting of the lab leak theory. Please respect that this is what we are discussing and not the other things you inject into nearly every topic.

oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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oski003 said:

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concordtom said:

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Aunburdened said:

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It's okay for an 85 year old to be President, but not to be held accountable for covering up a lab leak

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Okay, here's something I can glom onto.
This "thought" that maybe some researchers were working on this in a lab and it leaked…. So far as I know, it remains merely a possibility, yes?

If so, I think attacking Fauci as if he's some criminal for not proceeding as if it's fact is ridiculous.

But go on, educate me. With facts, please.

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If you are going to purposely stay ignorant, why opin in the matter? As stated here hundreds of times, Fauci discredited efforts to bring to light the lab leak origin.

https://www.heritage.org/public-health/commentary/how-fauci-and-nih-leaders-worked-discredit-covid-19-lab-leak-theory

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1. This is heritage foundation. They are a joke.

2. They have no Deny Cookies button, in violation of California state law, I believe. So now they are apparently tracking me. Thanks.

3. So I now understand that this angle pays zero attention to Fauci's response to:
"oh, crap, there's a killer virus out there, what should we do?!?!"

Instead, this axe to grind is all about:
"oh, crap, there's a killer virus out there, where did it come from?!?!"

And more specifically, this angle is pissed that one particular possible answer wasn't followed more vigorously.


Is this correct?

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Again, you want to purposely stay ignorant so you can argue against something that isn't true and ignore the facts presented.

"Through its investigation, the select subcommittee has learned that Dr. Fauci and NIH exerted more influence over the conference call than previously disclosed. Further, by the end of the Feb. 1 conference call, Dr. Fauci had suggested the drafting of a paper regarding the potential of a lab leak to Dr. [Kristian] Andersen twice. This suggestion was what 'prompted' Dr. Andersen to draft 'Proximal Origin."

"So, the authors revised their paper, adding language that the lab origin was implausible, and successfully submitted it to Nature Medicine, part of the Nature portfolio of journals. The finished producttitled "The Proximal Origin of SARS-CoV-2"was published in Nature Medicine on March 17, 2020.

The Nature Medicine article, according to the subcommittee report, "is one of the single most impactful and influential scientific papers in history, and it expressed conclusions that were not based on sound science nor in fact, but instead on assumptions."

I and others have issues with many others Fauci's directives. Here, we are focusing on his immoral discrediting of the lab leak theory. Please respect that this is what we are discussing and not the other things you inject into nearly every topic.

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The children will never acknowledge the truth because they will die of shame.

Fauci, and his supporters, can never admit they were wrong because then they would be overwhelmed in shame by how many lives they have ruined. Under-educated children, elderly dying alone, businesses ruined, careers lost. It’s so overwhelming they can’t ever go there.

— Brian Wesbury (@wesbury) July 30, 2026

Coming back to the actual topic, connecting dots from 2 separate posts:

> Jan. 26, 2020. Fauci writes in his diary: "Now we know the market was not the source, it was the amplifier."

> Feb. 1, 2020. The call that produced Proximal Origin. Twelve scientists. Only 2 concluded it was natural. Per Fauci's own notes, "the rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible."

> Feb 1, 2020: Dr. Fauci and NIH (reportedly) exerted influence such that Dr. [Kristian] Andersen revised the "Proximal Origin" paper, adding language that the lab origin was implausible.

sycasey said:

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hanky1 said:

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The Golden Calf wasn't science after all. pic.twitter.com/Vu98381j2C

— PlainSpokenRedneck (@BullseyeBanjo) July 30, 2026

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Somebody's Spotify playlist is stuck on repeat.

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What's wrong w listening to the same song over and over?

tequila4kapp said:

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Coming back to the actual topic, connecting dots from 2 separate posts:

> Jan. 26, 2020. Fauci writes in his diary: "Now we know the market was not the source, it was the amplifier."

> Feb. 1, 2020. The call that produced Proximal Origin. Twelve scientists. Only 2 concluded it was natural. Per Fauci's own notes, "the rest felt that deliberate insertion was possible."

> Feb 1, 2020: Dr. Fauci and NIH (reportedly) exerted influence such that Dr. [Kristian] Andersen revised the "Proximal Origin" paper, adding language that the lab origin was implausible.

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Fauci wasn't the only person who exerted such influence discrediting the lab leak. However, he was the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) at the National Institutes of Health and also influencing public opinion through media appearances. It is interesting that his wife was the head of the Department of Bioethics at the National Institutes of Health Clinical Center.

There is plausible evidence that Fauci's scientists indirectly funded illegal coronavirus gain of function research at Wuhan. This research created COVID 19. COVID 19 escaped from Wuhan. A whole lot of people are covering that up.

The only thing the far left has is the belief that they hold the moral high ground in everything.

When presented w overwhelming evidence that a previous belief was immoral, they collapse. It's like believing in a God your entire life and then being shown evidence that your God is a false idol. They will wander the desert for the next 40 years before admitting they were wrong.

But these people desperately need our help. I would encourage all of us to identify these individuals and get them institutionalized into mental health clinics. There, and only there, after many years of forced therapy, will the return to being functional citizens of society.

It's the only song you know
It's boring and it's slow
We really wish you'd go