Trump's Military Gets Decimated by Ukraine

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DiabloWags
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This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent

oski003
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DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.
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Hey, at least we are keeping defense contractors fat and sassy building weapon systems for fighting wars…. in the last century.
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.
BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.



Would you prefer we didn't have these exercises to figure out our weak/blind spots? How much of this blame do you put on Biden's administration? Why weren't they training for these type of situations? You putting this solely on the Trump administration is par for the course with you but also not really the whole story. Also par for the course with you.
DiabloWags
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.



Would you prefer we didn't have these exercises to figure out our weak/blind spots? How much of this blame do you put on Biden's administration? Why weren't they training for these type of situations? You putting this solely on the Trump administration is par for the course with you but also not really the whole story. Also par for the course with you.


Yawn.
Never putting anything on the Trump administration is par for the course with you.
Your track record here has been well documented. You rarely find fault with anything Trump does.
oski003
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BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.



Would you prefer we didn't have these exercises to figure out our weak/blind spots? How much of this blame do you put on Biden's administration? Why weren't they training for these type of situations? You putting this solely on the Trump administration is par for the course with you but also not really the whole story. Also par for the course with you.


You are correct. OP falsely placed all blame on Trump with the statement

"Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work."

These exercises are a good thing. It is important to note that they improved as the exercises progressed.
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DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent



Good article and good points.
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.



Would you prefer we didn't have these exercises to figure out our weak/blind spots? How much of this blame do you put on Biden's administration? Why weren't they training for these type of situations? You putting this solely on the Trump administration is par for the course with you but also not really the whole story. Also par for the course with you.


You are correct. OP falsely placed all blame on Trump with the statement

"Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work."

These exercises are a good thing. It is important to note that they improved as the exercises progressed.

Yeah, the U.S. military has certainly improved their drone capability.





U.S. military has lost roughly 25% of its Reaper drones as Iran war depletes arsenal
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.



Would you prefer we didn't have these exercises to figure out our weak/blind spots? How much of this blame do you put on Biden's administration? Why weren't they training for these type of situations? You putting this solely on the Trump administration is par for the course with you but also not really the whole story. Also par for the course with you.


You are correct. OP falsely placed all blame on Trump with the statement

"Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work."

These exercises are a good thing. It is important to note that they improved as the exercises progressed.


If these "exercises" are a good thing as you claim then why is the US Army disbanding their drone battalion in Europe?

It doesn't sound like you've been paying attention to what is actually happening with our military.







Pentagon disbands US drone unit after brutal training loss to Ukraine

[url=https://www.defensenews.com/news/your-military/2026/08/21/us-army-to-end-experimental-drone-battalion-in-europe/]US Army to end experimental drone battalion in Europe


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BearlySane88
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DiabloWags said:

BearlySane88 said:

DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

This is embarrassing.
Commander Bonespurs and Pete Hegseth at work.



American forces were overwhelmed by Ukrainian drones during a training exercise that exposed U.S. military vulnerabilities which have also been exploited to deadly effect by Iran, according to a new report.

Ukraine's drone operators easily spotted and defeated U.S. troops and armored vehicles so quickly that they had to be "re-spawned" and sent back into the field to keep the exercise going, The Wall Street Journal said, citing an unidentified U.S. official who was briefed on the matter.

An entire U.S. armored brigade was reportedly eliminated at one point in the twice-yearly training, which took place in Germany over two weeks in April and May and is called "Combined Resolve."

The joint military exercises in Germany involved about 3,700 U.S troops, mostly from the 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division, who attacked a ground position reinforced by Ukrainian troops, according to the Journal.

The scenario was repeated during the two-week training, and the attacking troops improved their performance as they became more adept at dispersing, concealing themselves and using electronic warfare, an unidentified Army official told the Journal.

The Ukrainians also switched sides midway through the exercises and helped the American soldiers effectively use drones for offensive purposes, the official said.

The U.S. troops were equipped with standard electronic-warfare and counter-drone systems, and new Mobile Brigade Combat teams have fared better in exercises using the latest gear and tactics, the official said.

Training exercises held last year in the Baltic region also resulted in Ukrainian drone operators easily defeating troops from other countries, including the U.K. and Estonia, a person familiar with the matter told the Journal.

In addition, Swedish forces and allied Nato troops were defeated by Ukrainian drone operators during exercises held this past spring, the Journal said, citing Swedish media reports.





US military loses to Ukrainian drones in joint exercise as Pentagon struggles to catch up to modern warfare | The Independent




Good news that they are doing these exercises to improve their readiness in drone and electronic warfare. We have spent billions using Ukraine as a pawn to fight Russia. We should be learning from this in many ways.



Sadly, this exercise proves that we are SLOW learners.
We've been "asleep" like that kid who sits way in the back of the class that doesn't pay attention.



Would you prefer we didn't have these exercises to figure out our weak/blind spots? How much of this blame do you put on Biden's administration? Why weren't they training for these type of situations? You putting this solely on the Trump administration is par for the course with you but also not really the whole story. Also par for the course with you.


Yawn.
Never putting anything on the Trump administration is par for the course with you.
Your track record here has been well documented. You rarely find fault with anything Trump does.



Your reading comprehension fails you once again. I did not say Trump had no fault in this. I asked why are you only placing blame on Trump when this isn't a new issue. I'd really love for you to actually read posts before responding.
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I don't think Trump has any share of the fault. Everything is on Obama and Biden!



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bearister said:

I don't think Trump has any share of the fault. Everything is on Obama and Biden!






I don't feel the same but good to know.
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Your reading comprehension fails you once again. I did not say Trump had no fault in this. I asked why are you only placing blame on Trump when this isn't a new issue. I'd really love for you to actually read posts before responding.


I've found that you ask me a lot of questions that I find to be irrelevant.

The fact that you are still unable to ACCEPT the fact that the Strait of Hormuz is still essentially closed after nearly 6-months of military leadership under Trump and Hegseth is quite telling.

Perhaps you should put me on ignore if you don't want to read what I have to offer here.
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BearlySane88 said:


Your reading comprehension fails you once again. I did not say Trump had no fault in this. I asked why are you only placing blame on Trump when this isn't a new issue. I'd really love for you to actually read posts before responding.


I've found that you ask me a lot of questions that I find to be irrelevant.



I've found that you regularly write things about other people that fit your description perfectly. You also are now changing the subject away from the OP to something entirely irrelevant to the convo at hand.
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Perhaps you should put me on ignore if you don't want to read what I have to offer here.

or else, as backup plan b DW, feel free to ignore whatever number of unwanted nagging bothers.
worked grreat back when i posted way too much.
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