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DiabloWags
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Shocker.
Safety Concerns?



The U.S. Department of Agriculture has issued a recall for nearly 30,000 pounds of raw beef imported from Argentina after the product was sold in Texas and Florida, adding to a string of food recalls that have emerged throughout the summer. The recall notice attributes the action to missed import re-inspections, though the agency's Food Safety and Inspection Service has classified the beef as a Class I health hazard, its highest risk designation.

Notably, the recall notice does not identify a specific contaminant, a detail that has drawn scrutiny from food safety experts and raised questions about how the risk level was determined.







USDA recalls over 29,000 pounds of beef over safety fears

oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Shocker.
Safety Concerns?



The U.S. Department of Agriculture has issued a recall for nearly 30,000 pounds of raw beef imported from Argentina after the product was sold in Texas and Florida, adding to a string of food recalls that have emerged throughout the summer. The recall notice attributes the action to missed import re-inspections, though the agency's Food Safety and Inspection Service has classified the beef as a Class I health hazard, its highest risk designation.

Notably, the recall notice does not identify a specific contaminant, a detail that has drawn scrutiny from food safety experts and raised questions about how the risk level was determined.







USDA recalls over 29,000 pounds of beef over safety fears




I am interested to find out more details. Fyi, 71.4 million pounds of meat was recalled last year.
DiabloWags
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Safety issues with Argentine beef are ALWAYS an issue.

The risk for "Foot and Mouth" disease is not nil, as some have claimed.





Foot-and-Mouth Disease and Argentina's Beef Exports: The WTO's USAnimals Dispute | World Trade Review | Cambridge Core

This paper provides a legaleconomic assessment of the WTO Panel Report in USAnimals, one of a growing list of WTO disputes arising due to problematic conditions under which an importing country closes and reopens its market after an infectious disease outbreak in an exporting country. The United States banned imports of beef from Argentina following a 2000 Argentine outbreak of highly contagious foot-and-mouth disease (FMD), a disease not found in the United States since 1929. The United States refused to relax its import ban, and Argentina filed a WTO dispute in 2012, more than six years after its last FMD outbreak. Our analysis starts with Argentina's claim that the gap between its first requests, in 2002, to restore its trading rights and no action by the United States as of 2012 constituted 'undue delay'.

We rely on simple insights from economic research on asymmetric information problems moral hazard and adverse selection to describe the difficulties facing the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) and the WTO's Sanitary and Phytosanitary (SPS) Agreement in dealing with problems like FMD. Such an environment creates disincentives for socially efficient behavior that were clearly realized in this episode. The exporting country has an incentive to hide information on outbreaks and report being disease-free too quickly, and the importing country has no incentive to quickly undertake the costly effort of conducting the necessary inspections to restore the exporter's market access.

Finally, we address the Panel Report's treatment of alleged discrimination both across different FMD-impacted countries and across FMD-impacted and non-impacted geographic zones within Argentina, and we touch on the Report's shift in approach regarding the obligation of the United States to take into account the special needs of developing countries such as Argentina.
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

Safety issues with Argentine beef are ALWAYS an issue.

The risk for "Foot and Mouth" disease is not nil, as some have claimed.





Foot-and-Mouth Disease and Argentina's Beef Exports: The WTO's USAnimals Dispute | World Trade Review | Cambridge Core

This paper provides a legaleconomic assessment of the WTO Panel Report in USAnimals, one of a growing list of WTO disputes arising due to problematic conditions under which an importing country closes and reopens its market after an infectious disease outbreak in an exporting country. The United States banned imports of beef from Argentina following a 2000 Argentine outbreak of highly contagious foot-and-mouth disease (FMD), a disease not found in the United States since 1929. The United States refused to relax its import ban, and Argentina filed a WTO dispute in 2012, more than six years after its last FMD outbreak. Our analysis starts with Argentina's claim that the gap between its first requests, in 2002, to restore its trading rights and no action by the United States as of 2012 constituted 'undue delay'.

We rely on simple insights from economic research on asymmetric information problems moral hazard and adverse selection to describe the difficulties facing the World Organization for Animal Health (OIE) and the WTO's Sanitary and Phytosanitary (SPS) Agreement in dealing with problems like FMD. Such an environment creates disincentives for socially efficient behavior that were clearly realized in this episode. The exporting country has an incentive to hide information on outbreaks and report being disease-free too quickly, and the importing country has no incentive to quickly undertake the costly effort of conducting the necessary inspections to restore the exporter's market access.

Finally, we address the Panel Report's treatment of alleged discrimination both across different FMD-impacted countries and across FMD-impacted and non-impacted geographic zones within Argentina, and we touch on the Report's shift in approach regarding the obligation of the United States to take into account the special needs of developing countries such as Argentina.


Practically nil and it is smart to be cautious yet use proper risk analysis instead of ruling something out completely over fear.
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Dump that toxic product in Red states only because they bear the ultimate responsibility for this and multiple other clusterf@ucks.
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DiabloWags
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It's interesting to note how every cattle and beef industry trade group has PUSHED BACK on Trump's importing Argentine beef.




Nothing like undercutting the American Rancher and throwing them under the bus.
Lots of those ranchers are hardcore MAGA dudes too.

The prudent move would to continue to allow the supply/demand equation of the market to come back into balance. But Trump is too dumb to do that.



Cattle Ranchers Say Trump's Push to Lower Beef Prices Hurts Farmers - Business Insider
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DiabloWags said:

It's interesting to note how every cattle and beef industry trade group has PUSHED BACK on Trump's importing Argentine beef.




Nothing like undercutting the American Rancher and throwing them under the bus.
Lots of those ranchers are hardcore MAGA dudes too.

The prudent move would to continue to allow the supply/demand equation of the market to come back into balance. But Trump is too dumb to do that.



Cattle Ranchers Say Trump's Push to Lower Beef Prices Hurts Farmers - Business Insider



Why would a rational person think that American cow producers would not push back on imported beef? You make it sound like it actually means something.
DiabloWags
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oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

It's interesting to note how every cattle and beef industry trade group has PUSHED BACK on Trump's importing Argentine beef.




Nothing like undercutting the American Rancher and throwing them under the bus.
Lots of those ranchers are hardcore MAGA dudes too.

The prudent move would to continue to allow the supply/demand equation of the market to come back into balance. But Trump is too dumb to do that.



Cattle Ranchers Say Trump's Push to Lower Beef Prices Hurts Farmers - Business Insider



Why would a rational person think that American cow producers would not push back on imported beef? You make it sound like it actually means something.


You're right.

I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised that TRUMP just screwed his BASE again.
He seems to do it all too often.
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Why do we always this to farmers and ranchers? This admin hates the hard working in our country.

Vote Blue and Vote Gavin
Anarchistbear
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SBGold said:

Why do we always this to farmers and ranchers? This admin hates the hard working in our country.

Vote Blue and Vote Gavin


They are businessmen not some romantic " workers of the land". Plus they like higher prices as businessmen do.
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DiabloWags said:

oski003 said:

DiabloWags said:

It's interesting to note how every cattle and beef industry trade group has PUSHED BACK on Trump's importing Argentine beef.




Nothing like undercutting the American Rancher and throwing them under the bus.
Lots of those ranchers are hardcore MAGA dudes too.

The prudent move would to continue to allow the supply/demand equation of the market to come back into balance. But Trump is too dumb to do that.



Cattle Ranchers Say Trump's Push to Lower Beef Prices Hurts Farmers - Business Insider



Why would a rational person think that American cow producers would not push back on imported beef? You make it sound like it actually means something.


You're right.

I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised that TRUMP just screwed his BASE again.
He seems to do it all too often.



I'm all for beef imports. U.S. cattle ranchers should stop depending on government protection. They need to learn to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps.
Censorship has always been a tool of the fascist
bearister
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DiabloWags said:



You're right.

I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised that TRUMP just screwed his BASE again.
He seems to do it all too often.



Trump f@ucks his MAGAs over with his left hand and helps them with his right. It is the 70% of taxpayers that disapprove of him that will take the biggest bite of this sh@it sandwich via subsidies/bailouts:

Donald Trump has a documented track record of subsidizing industries, most notably agriculture, that are disproportionately harmed by his tariff policies. This pattern occurred during his first term and has continued into his second presidency.

Economists and political analysts frequently point to specific industries and patterns when analyzing how the Trump administration manages the economic fallout of its trade policies:

The "Tariff Relief" Pattern for Agriculture
The clearest example of this dynamic is the American farming sector, a reliable pro-Trump voting bloc that frequently bears the brunt of international retaliation.

The Cycle:
The administration levies sweeping tariffs on foreign imports. Foreign nations respond by placing retaliatory tariffs on U.S. agricultural exports like soybeans, corn, and pork. As American farmers see their export markets dry up and input costs (like fertilizer and steel) rise, the administration steps in with multi-billion-dollar bailout packages.

Historic First-Term Bailouts:
During his first administration, Trump directed the USDA to distribute roughly $28 billion in direct trade aid to farmers between 2018 and 2020.

Second-Term Reprise:
Following aggressive tariff escalations in late 2025 and 2026, the pattern repeated. After imposing tariffs on trading partners like China and Canada, which drove up domestic costs and choked exports, the administration announced a new $12 billion to $20 billion "tariff relief" fund to buffer struggling farmers.

The Winner and Loser Disparity
While politically vital sectors like agriculture receive direct relief, other industries impacted by the same policies do not fare as well, creating a stark "patchwork effect."

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DiabloWags
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This will result in a 60% increase in imports.
American Ranchers must be jumping up and down in JOY!

Thrown Under the Bus Again

TUBA!

Anarchistbear
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About 20% of US beef is imported. Argentina is a minor player.

Brazil: 717 million pounds (22 percent)
Australia: 700 million pounds (21 percent)
Canada: 489 million pounds (15 percent)
Mexico: 398 million pounds (12 percent)
New Zealand: 371 million pounds (11 percent)
Rest of World: 623 million pounds (19 percent)
oski003
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DiabloWags said:

This will result in a 60% increase in imports.
American Ranchers must be jumping up and down in JOY!

Thrown Under the Bus Again

TUBA!




The math ain't mathing.
SBGold
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Argentina just hit the beef jackpot with us. Italian beef's for days for all of us

If you are a vegan, nope you're not anymore

VOTE BLUE and Go Messi
DiabloWags
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Great article on the Cattle business.

Why the U.S. cattle herd is at a 75-year low and what it means for beef prices : NPR








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I got some friends inside”
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“I love Cal deeply, by the way, what are the directions to The Portal from Sproul Plaza?”
smh
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< be still my heart >
opened your last post, by mistake thinking this was the Obit thread # bullet dodged
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000142/bio/
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smh said:

< be still my heart >
opened your last post, by mistake thinking this was the Obit thread # bullet dodged


The real question is, as Trump continually keeps fn over rural American farmers, how is he able to keep their vote…. Americans really do care more about shared bathrooms, transgenders in sports, and people that don't look like me having opportunities.
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There are many elements, like the meat processors monopoly, that were bad and got worse across both D and R administrations.

Back to Argentina, a lighter take:

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Cal88 said:






Well, we know that El Presidente is the love child of…….

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