https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/09/politics/bernie-sanders-iowa-2020/index.html?fbclid=IwAR0CcGnqPxYIUBaR2TiNworhUSdf1pzaUyyPJf5No7lYkopPrpeD-wye45Q

Main Street Media; " Why this is bad news for Bernie Sanders."

I don't think anyone has "slept" on Bernie. However, I wish he was 10 years younger and didn't just have a heart problem.

I agree with this:

"If we're going to beat Trump, we need turnout," Sanders told CNN's Anderson Cooper on Monday night. "And to get turnout, you need energy and excitement. And I don't think that that kind of record is going to bring forth the energy we need to defeat Trump."

If they only voted

Anarchistbear said:

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If they only voted

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Trump will bring them out against him just like he did in 2018.

Anarchistbear said:

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If they only voted

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Perhaps if you want Sanders to be president, you should find a college student before Election Day and offer to take them to their polling place. If you want Biden to be president, his voters will show up on their own.

Anarchistbear said:

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Main Street Media; " Why this is bad news for Bernie Sanders."

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That is a laughable response to an article which very much exaggerates Sanders' position. Some advice. If a CNN article about the state of the race does not have Harry Enten's name on the byline, ignore. The main stream media wants to sell stories and 6 months of "Biden Still the Frontrunner" isn't sexy.

The race started with Biden substantially ahead, Bernie a clear second, and Bernie raising lots of cash and that is where it is today. The Democrats have had dalliances with other candidates who have risen and fallen. Bernie has kept chugging along. He has inched up slightly as Warren has fallen but has not really closed the gap with Biden. As of today Biden is at 29.3 on realclear while Bernie is at 20.3. That 9 point gap has been there for weeks. He has overtaken Warren because she has plummeted. Buttigieg is dropping also. There is simply nothing in the polls that shows Sanders surging. He is in good position. He can win. Surging is not happening, at least not yet. It's a ridiculous characterization of the race.

This is why the pollsters are ticked off with the shame finger being pointed at them in 2016. The media coverage of the horse race is woeful

OaktownBear said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Main Street Media; " Why this is bad news for Bernie Sanders."

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That is a laughable response to an article which very much exaggerates Sanders' position. Some advice. If a CNN article about the state of the race does not have Harry Enten's name on the byline, ignore. The main stream media wants to sell stories and 6 months of "Biden Still the Frontrunner" isn't sexy.

The race started with Biden substantially ahead, Bernie a clear second, and Bernie raising lots of cash and that is where it is today. The Democrats have had dalliances with other candidates who have risen and fallen. Bernie has kept chugging along. He has inched up slightly as Warren has fallen but has not really closed the gap with Biden. As of today Biden is at 29.3 on realclear while Bernie is at 20.3. That 9 point gap has been there for weeks. He has overtaken Warren because she has plummeted. Buttigieg is dropping also. There is simply nothing in the polls that shows Sanders surging. He is in good position. He can win. Surging is not happening, at least not yet. It's a ridiculous characterization of the race.

This is why the pollsters are ticked off with the shame finger being pointed at them in 2016. The media coverage of the horse race is woeful

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There are polls showing Sanders with a small lead in Iowa and New Hampshire. That's significant, because historically winning the early primaries can boost your numbers elsewhere (people want to support a winner). So there is an argument that he's MAYBE surpassed Biden in the important states. But if he has, it's a slim lead at best.

sycasey said:

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OaktownBear said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Main Street Media; " Why this is bad news for Bernie Sanders."

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That is a laughable response to an article which very much exaggerates Sanders' position. Some advice. If a CNN article about the state of the race does not have Harry Enten's name on the byline, ignore. The main stream media wants to sell stories and 6 months of "Biden Still the Frontrunner" isn't sexy.

The race started with Biden substantially ahead, Bernie a clear second, and Bernie raising lots of cash and that is where it is today. The Democrats have had dalliances with other candidates who have risen and fallen. Bernie has kept chugging along. He has inched up slightly as Warren has fallen but has not really closed the gap with Biden. As of today Biden is at 29.3 on realclear while Bernie is at 20.3. That 9 point gap has been there for weeks. He has overtaken Warren because she has plummeted. Buttigieg is dropping also. There is simply nothing in the polls that shows Sanders surging. He is in good position. He can win. Surging is not happening, at least not yet. It's a ridiculous characterization of the race.

This is why the pollsters are ticked off with the shame finger being pointed at them in 2016. The media coverage of the horse race is woeful

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There are polls showing Sanders with a small lead in Iowa and New Hampshire. That's significant, because historically winning the early primaries can boost your numbers elsewhere (people want to support a winner). So there is an argument that he's MAYBE surpassed Biden in the important states. But if he has, it's a slim lead at best.

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It is significant. But it isn't a surge. He's been mostly ahead of Biden in those states for a long time. Since the start of November he has had 20% or higher in 5 out of 8 polls of Iowa and the latest poll has him at 20%. Basically both states have been close to a statistical four way tie. The main thing that happened with the last poll was Buttigieg is losing steam. He has always polled well in neighboring New Hampshire. He is leading Biden by 2 in one poll this week. He is in third in the other poll, 2 behind Buttigieg and 1 behind Biden. He hasn't surged in those states as much as maintained his good position.

His position is certainly significant. No question his best path to victory is to pull off victories in both Iowa and New Hampshire, ride momentum to a third victory in Nevada where right now Biden has a clear but not overwhelming lead, and shake Biden's position. As I said, he can win. But he hasn't surged.

OaktownBear said:

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sycasey said:

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OaktownBear said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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Main Street Media; " Why this is bad news for Bernie Sanders."

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That is a laughable response to an article which very much exaggerates Sanders' position. Some advice. If a CNN article about the state of the race does not have Harry Enten's name on the byline, ignore. The main stream media wants to sell stories and 6 months of "Biden Still the Frontrunner" isn't sexy.

The race started with Biden substantially ahead, Bernie a clear second, and Bernie raising lots of cash and that is where it is today. The Democrats have had dalliances with other candidates who have risen and fallen. Bernie has kept chugging along. He has inched up slightly as Warren has fallen but has not really closed the gap with Biden. As of today Biden is at 29.3 on realclear while Bernie is at 20.3. That 9 point gap has been there for weeks. He has overtaken Warren because she has plummeted. Buttigieg is dropping also. There is simply nothing in the polls that shows Sanders surging. He is in good position. He can win. Surging is not happening, at least not yet. It's a ridiculous characterization of the race.

This is why the pollsters are ticked off with the shame finger being pointed at them in 2016. The media coverage of the horse race is woeful

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There are polls showing Sanders with a small lead in Iowa and New Hampshire. That's significant, because historically winning the early primaries can boost your numbers elsewhere (people want to support a winner). So there is an argument that he's MAYBE surpassed Biden in the important states. But if he has, it's a slim lead at best.

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It is significant. But it isn't a surge. He's been mostly ahead of Biden in those states for a long time. Since the start of November he has had 20% or higher in 5 out of 8 polls of Iowa and the latest poll has him at 20%. Basically both states have been close to a statistical four way tie. The main thing that happened with the last poll was Buttigieg is losing steam. He has always polled well in neighboring New Hampshire. He is leading Biden by 2 in one poll this week. He is in third in the other poll, 2 behind Buttigieg and 1 behind Biden. He hasn't surged in those states as much as maintained his good position.

His position is certainly significant. No question his best path to victory is to pull off victories in both Iowa and New Hampshire, ride momentum to a third victory in Nevada where right now Biden has a clear but not overwhelming lead, and shake Biden's position. As I said, he can win. But he hasn't surged.

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Agreed, mostly Bernie and Biden have remained static as other candidates have shifted around them.

Sanders is boosted by Steyer and Bloomberg, who have been eating into his opponents' numbers.

Professor Turgeson Bear said:

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Anarchistbear said:

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If they only voted

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Perhaps if you want Sanders to be president, you should find a college student before Election Day and offer to take them to their polling place. If you want Biden to be president, his voters will show up on their own.

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That's the thing. Biden reminds me of Hillary. She got the usual people who would vote to vote, but she didn't get the people who would ordinarily not vote (and voted for Obama) to vote, which cost her the election. It's really about getting people to turn out and wait in long lines to vote. It's about excitement. Bernie excites people, particularly young people. Where would AOC be without him? The question is whether him being the candidate would turn off enough people who routinely Dem, but would rather not vote than have to pick between Trump and Bernie.