A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

Half of the country is going to be outraged, which is why there are going to be more protests and more violence.

I honestly can't decide which side I want to suffer more. At least I'll know that half of the despicable people in this country that gave us this shyt choice will be miserable.

I think most of them will join The Resistance and move to Alabama.

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A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

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Are the opinions of non dems/pubs of any interest, or is this strictly a Hatfield-McCoy thing?

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

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Are the opinions of non dems/pubs of any interest, or is this strictly a Hatfield-McCoy thing?

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It's not a Hatfield-McCoy thing. There are certain Republican posters that we hear from frequently that make it abundantly clear that Biden is not their choice (or even mentally qualified). I am genuinely curious how much actual pain or disappointment they would feel if the election was called for Biden. It's not clear at all.

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B.A. Bearacus said:

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A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

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Are the opinions of non dems/pubs of any interest, or is this strictly a Hatfield-McCoy thing?

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Well said.

The best day of August was the day that I re-registered to "Screw them both"

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A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

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Are the opinions of non dems/pubs of any interest, or is this strictly a Hatfield-McCoy thing?

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It's not a Hatfield-McCoy thing.

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That is so fscking laughable. Take a good look at your country right now.

Here's the way I look at it. if Trump wins, we will have someone whose personality grates on everyone, doesn't unify, and is essentially a juvenile. At the same time, we will have someone who seems skilled at building the economy, has no qualms standing up for America, is a lone voice for law and order, and is strong on national defense. Like it or not, as polarizing a figure as he is, Trump has won at everything he has ever tried. He sees things we don't see.

If Biden wins, he will have enormous pressure from far left elements. You can see it in how weakly he attempts to call out the rioters, killers, and arsonists. It's really inexcusable for a presidential candidate and people are seeing that now. He will also be under pressure from anti-Semitic elements of the party, most notably, AOC, Omar, and Talib. However, Biden will restore dignity to the Office of the President, be much more presidential in his dealings with lawmakers and foreign governments, and display a compassionate side that Trump doesn't possess.

Summation: If you want results, go with Trump. If you want the feel-good intangibles, go with Biden. For me, i would not be devastated one way or the other. I'm more enthralled with the competition aspect of it than anything else. I guess that's what happens when you can't go to sporting events LOL.

LMK5, I appreciate your honest take on what your initial reaction would be to a Biden victory. Any other Republicans care to share their reaction? It could be stated in one sentence -- it doesn't need to be explanatory.

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LMK5, I appreciate your honest take on what your initial reaction would be to a Biden victory. Any other Republicans care to share their reaction? It could be stated in one sentence -- it doesn't need to be explanatory.

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Terrified!

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Terrified!

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Kelly, I will assume that this is an honest answer and thank you for sharing. I'm slightly surprised that your reaction would be this strong, but you have your reasons.

"Trump has won at everything he has ever tried. He sees things we don't see."

I would like to see a list of these victories, with supporting citations. I will read and learn because based on what I have read, I presently don't accept that statement as accurate.

" A large minority of people still confuse his arrogance for strength , his false bravado for accomplishment , and his superficial interest in them as charisma....
... His real skills (self-aggrandizement, lying, and sleight of hand) were interpreted as strengths unique to his brand of success. By perpetuating his version of the story he wanted told about his wealth and his subsequent "successes," our family and then many others started the process of normalizing Donald." Mary L. Trump


".. we will have someone who seems skilled at building the economy.."

I'm not convinced of that.

The Trump economic record vs. his campaign promises - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-economic-promises-e414863a-dddd-4bd9-837a-08f95a5876f3.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

I'm pretty close to the opinion that LMK5 has expressed. Trump has many personality shortcomings, but he gets things done and places America first. He has not dealt effectively with the deficit, which has been significantly exacerbated by COVID.

I'm really concerned about Biden's dementa issues, and because of them, I'm afraid that he would be unduly influenced by the far-left radicals in his party, such as AOC, Tlaib, Omar, Sanders, etc. I'm also concerned about Pelosi and Schumer basically setting his agenda, which would include a significant increase in taxes. Basically, I think Biden would be a very weak and ineffective President--kind of like Jimmy Carter with a failing memory.

So, in summary, I would be very disappointed and concerned if Biden were to win, but I would survive. At this point, however, I think Trump is rapidly gaining ground and will win the election.

Golden, I appreciate your honest take. Thank you.

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"Trump has won at everything he has ever tried. He sees things we don't see."

I would like to see a list of these victories, with supporting citations. I will read and learn because based on what I have read, I presently don't accept that statement as accurate.

" A large minority of people still confuse his arrogance for strength , his false bravado for accomplishment , and his superficial interest in them as charisma....
... His real skills (self-aggrandizement, lying, and sleight of hand) were interpreted as strengths unique to his brand of success. By perpetuating his version of the story he wanted told about his wealth and his subsequent "successes," our family and then many others started the process of normalizing Donald." Mary L. Trump


".. we will have someone who seems skilled at building the economy.."

I'm not convinced of that.

The Trump economic record vs. his campaign promises - Axios


https://www.axios.com/trump-economic-promises-e414863a-dddd-4bd9-837a-08f95a5876f3.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top

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Trump wins:
1) Building a real estate empire and brand.
2) Successful in his first foray into entertainment television with The Apprentice.
3) First foray into politics gets him elected to presidency. That's bigger than hitting a grand slam in your first MLB at-bat.

Clearly, he is set on building and maintaining a strong economy and keeping tax dollars in the hands of taxpayers.

Like him or not, you've got to admit he has a track record of winning.

Hey guys, I have no control over whether this particular thread goes off the rails, but there are definitely other threads where topics such as whether the president is a proven winner can be debated. I was hoping to gauge how painful it would be for the Republican usual suspects if Biden won. We have already seen a range of reactions and I'm curious how the other Republicans feel. The reactions might serve as a point of contrast with the Democratic usual suspects if Biden lost (there would be deeply felt pain, suffering, and disillusionment, which would surely be a source of joy to some).

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A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

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No major impact at all. My awesome life goes on. The country, however, will be weaker with Biden.

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A majority of us who frequent this forum are absolutely disgusted by this president and would feel dead inside if he won re-election.

Republicans, you would obviously be disappointed if Biden won, but at what level? Would it be too strong to say that you'd be devastated? Perhaps it's closer damn, that's a bummer, but oh well?

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No major impact at all. My awesome life goes on. The country, however, will be weaker with Biden.

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For leftists, however, since politics serves as a substitute for religion, it will be a little different. If Trump wins again, it will feel like Hassan Rouhani personally shoving an unending supply of Shia Islam down their atheist throats.

I'm not a Republican but I'll play:

If Biden wins, I wouldn't really care. Life goes on. I think he'd be ok. I would enjoy a small laugh at my progressive friends who had to nominate a centrist to defeat Trump.

If Trump wins, I wouldn't mind. Life goes on. I would enjoy very much the look of horror on privileged, hypocritical liberal's face when he wins a second term. Seriously the ridiculousness of Trump Derangement Syndrome...it's absurd. Some of you clowns get indignant and angry at Trump for doing the same ******* thing as Obama! That's the definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome!

"Some of you clowns get indignant and angry at Trump for doing the same ******* thing as Obama."

Please put in a list with citations.

As someone who has been a registered Repub, a registered Dem (current) and an Independent, I will go through the motions and vote Biden. But as a California resident, I know my vote is worthless. A single voter in Ohio has literally 100x the voting power effectiveness that my vote has. Which is why I am comforted, albeit it is a cold comfort, that it doesn't really matter.

90% of the people claim that this is an election that matters more than any other, that will determine the fate of the nation, etc. I disagree. 25 years from now Trump 1.0 (and Trump 2.0 or Biden 1.0 ) will be perceived as America's Boris Yeltsin. A charismatic (mostly) personage that rallied the populace and presided over massive changes in how the country relates to the world at large - changes that were set in motion decades earlier and would have happened anyway no matter who was president. Changes that fundamentally arise from America's declining % of world GDP - just as occurred for the ex-USSR. The US can not possibly hope to match the GDP growth in the underdeveloped world and that necessarily means that US GDP as a % of world GDP will continue to decline. It's inevitable. No matter who is president. And that is fundamentally the biggest ongoing change of the last 20 years and the next 50. Even bigger than climate change.

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As someone who has been a registered Repub, a registered Dem (current) and an Independent, I will go through the motions and vote Biden. But as a California resident, I know my vote is worthless..

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yep. so here's a shot in the dark -> throw some discretionary dollars to out of state campaigns of your choice, whether split or focused between the usual suspects: presidential / house / senate offices. or dog catcher if you'd rather. works great for me. good luck '84.

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"Some of you clowns get indignant and angry at Trump for doing the same ******* thing as Obama."

Please put in a list with citations.

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Ok lemme see...off the top of my head while sitting on the toilet:

'He locks kids in cages. He's putting kids in concentration camps. He's a racist monster.' LOL Obama did the same thing

'Mass deportation he's trying to deport all these immigrants He's a racist monster!' LOL Obama deported more illegals than anyone.

'The border wall is so stupid. Waste of money. He's a racist monster.' LOL bietch please. Obama voted for the border wall when he was a senator.

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"Some of you clowns get indignant and angry at Trump for doing the same ******* thing as Obama."

Please put in a list with citations.

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Ok lemme see...off the top of my head while sitting on the toilet:

'He locks kids in cages. He's putting kids in concentration camps. He's a racist monster.' LOL Obama did the same thing

'Mass deportation he's trying to deport all these immigrants He's a racist monster!' LOL Obama deported more illegals than anyone.

'The border wall is so stupid. Waste of money. He's a racist monster.' LOL bietch please. Obama voted for the border wall when he was a senator.

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Sounds like you thought Obama was Very Presidential!

Biden was his VP!

You got your guy!

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I'm not a Republican but I'll play:

If Biden wins, I wouldn't really care. Life goes on. I think he'd be ok. I would enjoy a small laugh at my progressive friends who had to nominate a centrist to defeat Trump.

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I'll be laughing at a lot of arseholes who deserve it either way, but the country is going to be an awful place from here on out.

[The following relates specifically to the posters in this forum.]

Thanks to all the Republicans who shared their opinions. Based on this sample, albeit small, Republicans, as vocally against Biden as they are, generally don't care that much if he wins. Yes, none of the respondents would be happy, but with one exception, everyone sounds like they would just dust themselves off and move on. No big whoop. It may get lost in the back and forth, which seemingly comes from equally passionate people on both sides, but what seems like equivalent passion belies the fact that the threat of real personal pain and anguish is manifest only on one side. Republicans can see this as just a game because they don't really care who wins.

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"If you want results, go with Trump. If you want the feel-good intangibles, go with Biden. For me, i would not be devastated one way or the other. I'm more enthralled with the competition aspect of it than anything else. I guess that's what happens when you can't go to sporting events LOL."

"If Biden wins, I wouldn't really care. Life goes on. I think he'd be ok."

"I would be very disappointed and concerned if Biden were to win, but I would survive."

"No major impact at all. My awesome life goes on."

"Terrified!"

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I would go to Tibet and become a monk.

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[The following relates specifically to the posters in this forum.]

Thanks to all the Republicans who shared their opinions. Based on this sample, albeit small, Republicans, as vocally against Biden as they are, generally don't care that much if he wins. Yes, none of the respondents would be happy, but with one exception, everyone sounds like they would just dust themselves off and move on. No big whoop. It may get lost in the back and forth, which seemingly comes from equally passionate people on both sides, but what seems like equivalent passion belies the fact that the threat of real personal pain and anguish is manifest only on one side. Republicans can see this as just a game because they don't really care who wins.

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"If you want results, go with Trump. If you want the feel-good intangibles, go with Biden. For me, i would not be devastated one way or the other. I'm more enthralled with the competition aspect of it than anything else. I guess that's what happens when you can't go to sporting events LOL."

"If Biden wins, I wouldn't really care. Life goes on. I think he'd be ok."

"I would be very disappointed and concerned if Biden were to win, but I would survive."

"No major impact at all. My awesome life goes on."

"Terrified!"

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I'm not a Republican but I'll play along w your game...I don't think it's a game but just find the hypocrisy highly amusing. When Obama was elected there were people genuinely terrified (for no good reason) and people on the left spiked the football and declared everyone who opposed your new God as racist.

Now the tables are turned and the left is terrified (for no good reason) and the right spikes the football and the left goes back to screaming racism again.

It's really no different. You alls are crazy and delusional....Both sides who run around terrified. You're all just too self righteous to realize you're all the same.

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I'm not a Republican but I'll play along w your game...I don't think it's a game but just find the hypocrisy highly amusing. When Obama was elected there were people genuinely terrified (for no good reason) and people on the left spiked the football and declared everyone who opposed your new God as racist.

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Now the tables are turned and the left is terrified (for no good reason) and the right spikes the football and the left goes back to screaming racism again.

It's really no different. You alls are crazy and delusional....Both sides who run around terrified. You're all just too self righteous to realize you're all the same.

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And that's why unlike other people who cry about what you post, I won't. The truth in what you say above evades 95% of the people in this country.

Hanky has found a new bathroom attendant. "Does your phone need a charge, sir?"



"I was controlling him with my posts. That's the kind of power I have. Watch and learn."



"We have so much in common. Sorry about the floater."

kelly09 said:

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LMK5, I appreciate your honest take on what your initial reaction would be to a Biden victory. Any other Republicans care to share their reaction? It could be stated in one sentence -- it doesn't need to be explanatory.

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Terrified!

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kelly09, now that Biden won are you actually terrified or was that hyperbole?

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LMK5, I appreciate your honest take on what your initial reaction would be to a Biden victory. Any other Republicans care to share their reaction? It could be stated in one sentence -- it doesn't need to be explanatory.

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Terrified!

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kelly09, now that Biden won are you actually terrified or was that hyperbole?

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You can't get updates from many of them because due to the strain of the last couple of days a few of them are in the Sin Bin.

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LMK5, I appreciate your honest take on what your initial reaction would be to a Biden victory. Any other Republicans care to share their reaction? It could be stated in one sentence -- it doesn't need to be explanatory.

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Terrified!

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kelly09, now that Biden won are you actually terrified or was that hyperbole?

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You can't get updates from many of them because due to the strain of the last couple of days a few of them are in the Sin Bin.

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Hehe. Maybe they took your deleted advice and are tripping balls on acid right now in Golden Gate Park.

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LMK5, I appreciate your honest take on what your initial reaction would be to a Biden victory. Any other Republicans care to share their reaction? It could be stated in one sentence -- it doesn't need to be explanatory.

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Terrified!

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kelly09, now that Biden won are you actually terrified or was that hyperbole?

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'Terrified' was meant to be pure hyperbole. I am concerned that Joe will not be long in office. I see Harris being prez for most of the term.This may well lead to a massive repudiation of an extreme Dem party in 2024.But, it may not.
This country is split and may not ever come together. The left(Wall Street, Tech and Entertainment and Network and cable news departments) is wealthy and super influential. I see bad times ahead, Hope I'm wrong.