going4roses said:

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Big C said:

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okaydo said:

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I'll repeat what I've said numerous times: Trump lives in an alternate reality where everything negative that happens to him is a conspiracy and illegitimate. So as a result, he bends real reality to his fake reality and almost always gets his way. I assumed for years that the election would be the time when real reality would catch up to Trump, but of course that wasn't going to happen. (Even if Trump was blown out, I'm pretty sure we would still be in the same position.)

You always hope for the moment like in Joseph McCarthy's case (reality) or in A Face in the Crowd (fiction), where the demigod is finally stopped. But Trump has way too many diehard supporters, making him very powerful.

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It still amazes me that some 47% of voters chose this guy, but I believe a fair amount of his base is going to find his "sore loser" act less and less compelling as the weeks wear on. Still, that will leave some ten million people who he can still get to attend rallies, buy caps, etc. Of course, if he is incarcerated, all bets are off.

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I wasn't surprised at all.

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He has consistently had approval ratings in the low 40s so it is not surprising, but it is disheartening.

I'm shocked that Republicans won't accept that Joe Biden legitimately won the election.

I mean, they considered Barack Obama and Bill Clinton to be legitimate presidents.

going4roses said:

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The BS already!!! Both parties suck giraffe nuts

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Now that Trump has normalized nepotism, they will feel free to do it brazenly and with impunity like Trump did instead of the backdoor nepotism that made Hunter his millions.

Yogi Bear said:

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going4roses said:

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The BS already!!! Both parties suck giraffe nuts

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Now that Trump has normalized nepotism, they will feel free to do it brazenly and with impunity like Trump did instead of the backdoor nepotism that made Hunter his millions.

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Rub is EVERYONE except one group will see tangible benefits / rewards

And it's the group that both needs it most and is owed but...

okaydo said:

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I'm shocked that Republicans won't accept that Joe Biden legitimately won the election.

I mean, they considered Barack Obama and Bill Clinton to be legitimate presidents.

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...neither of them defeated tRump. In tRumptown, the leader of the cult cannot be legitimately defeated.....and that message came from God via a multimillionaire televangelist speaking in tongues.

Trump administration upends senior Pentagon ranks, installing loyalists - The Washington Post


https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/defense-department-election-transition/2020/11/10/5a173e60-2371-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/defense-department-election-transition/2020/11/10/5a173e60-2371-11eb-8599-406466ad1b8e_story.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top


" In addition to Christopher C. Miller, who was chosen Monday as the new acting defense secretary, the officials in new positions are Kash Patel, a Trump loyalist and former aide to Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), and Anthony J. Tata, whose nomination to be undersecretary of defense for policy crumbled over the summer amid scrutiny by Democratic lawmakers of his tweets and remarks promoting conspiracy theories and calling former president Barack Obama a terrorist........
..... Also ousted at the Pentagon is Joseph Kernan, a retired three-star admiral and Navy SEAL officer who had served as undersecretary of defense for intelligence. He will be replaced by Ezra Cohen-Watnick, 34, who most recently served as the acting assistant secretary of defense for special operations and low-intensity conflict. He first joined the Trump administration as a National Security Council director under former national security adviser Michael Flynn."

wifeisafurd said:

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I predict that Vox will continue to have its head up its arse.

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The problem with Vox is they publish pieces like this October 2018 article by this guy named Ron Klain. Like, who is this guy!?!

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/10/15/17948062/pandemic-flu-ebola-h1n1-outbreak-infectious-disease

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The problem with Vox is they publish pieces like this October 2018 article by this guy named Ron Klain. Like, who is this guy!?!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Klain

random grab..
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/11/politics/biden-chief-of-staff/index.html

okaydo said:

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Make your predictions:

1. Will Trump concede? What date?
2. Will Republicans in Congress acknowledge Biden as president-elect? What date?
3. Will Trump be forced out of the White House by Secret Service? Or will he leave voluntarily?
4. Will Biden become the 46th or 47th president of the United States?


Here are a couple (scary) transition links:

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Some good commentary on this thread dating back to Nov 8th.

bearister said:

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What was the % on Jan 5th?

wifeisafurd said:

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I predict that Vox will continue to have its head up its arse.

Trump will get a recount where state law so requires, and nothing more from the courts. That means he already lost the election. He certainly pushed it to the limit, and got NOTHING from the courts!

There is no law requiring the Trump administration to cooperate, and knowing Trump, they won't. Nor will he concede in public. Well, he had to concede after his antics forced a "concede or the 25th amendment" situation. An appropriate end of his legacy as a divisive leader. But I'm still waiting for the heart attack or the trip down the stairs off AirForce1, so, not quite so fitting.

The GSA probably can be compelled to do limited preparation at some point, but that is what Biden will get, the minimum. Yep, another good call by wife.

Trump will leave, rather than be seen as being removed. And how he leaves is what we all waiting for. And where does he go to? Palm Beach is apparently fixing to kick him out as soon as he arrives - more good theater. I'm expecting him to flee the United States altogether, but that could take some time. Courts galore!

Most GOP in Congress are privately congratulating Biden, and not saying anything in public. That will change when Trump is thrown out of court. You were wrong here - but who could have imagined that so many Republicans would push the issue all the way up until it turned into a Coup attempt - and that's really what it was, a goddam stupid lame-ass Coup. And, some of them are still carrying on about it, aren't they? They should be removed from office. I'm not an expert in this area of law, but I have not heard anyone come-up with any theory on why the courts will allow Trumps' challenges (other than automatic recounts which won't make a difference) to continue. Yeah, courts gave nothing, so let's try insurrection! Duh - that was not well thought out, not at all. Worst coup attempt EVER. And THAT is the fitting end for this stupid presidency!

Biden will take the oath of office on time, 1/20/21. Surely so.

And Vox still will have its head up its arse.

At some point in the next 2 years, Trump will be indicted for tax fraud. The big finish we are all waiting for. Again - he escapes prosecution by fleeing abroad. Saudi Arabia is my prediction.

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Good takes, Wife. My comments in bold italics above.
But what is your problem with Vox?

okaydo said:

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wifeisafurd said:

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I predict that Vox will continue to have its head up its arse.

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The problem with Vox is they publish pieces like this October 2018 article by this guy named Ron Klain. Like, who is this guy!?!

https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2018/10/15/17948062/pandemic-flu-ebola-h1n1-outbreak-infectious-disease

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I am really looking forward to having professional politicians back in charge.
Fill the swamp. Don't you all know that Washington was built on a swamp? We need swamp natives to do their thing, but it's not the thing you think it is.

okaydo said:

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My prediction: It's not that Trump is not going to go quietly, it's that he's unable to grasp legitimately losing.

I predict there will be a standoff. He'll just continue carrying on being president. He'll continue denying he lost the election. He will continue being enabled by high-profile Republicans. And on January 20, he'll have to be dragged out of the White House.

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Wow, I can't believe I was so off.

"I am really looking forward to having professional politicians back in charge."

Reminds me of a line in Ocean's 11 when Basher comes back to work with the gang.

"It will be nice working with proper villains again!"

82gradDLSdad said:

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"I am really looking forward to having professional politicians back in charge."

Reminds me of a line in Ocean's 11 when Basher comes back to work with the gang.

"It will be nice working with proper villains again!"

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https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0240772/quotes

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[masquerading as an A.T.F. agent, Rusty shoves Basher against a police car, pretending to search him]
Rusty: [under his breath] Hey, Bash.
Basher: Hey, Russ.
Rusty: How fast can you put something together from what I just slipped you?
Basher: It's done.
[Rusty lifts up Basher, and they slowly leave the crime scene]
Basher: Hey, is Danny about?
Rusty: Yeah, he's waiting around the corner.
Basher: Oh, that's terrific! It will be nice working with proper villains again.
Rusty: [turns and shouts] Everybody down, now!
[they break into a run as explosions rock the crime scene]
Basher: Ha-ha-ha! They weren't expecting that *****
Rusty: Nice work.
Basher: Oh, thank you.
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okaydo said:

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okaydo said:

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My prediction: It's not that Trump is not going to go quietly, it's that he's unable to grasp legitimately losing.

I predict there will be a standoff. He'll just continue carrying on being president. He'll continue denying he lost the election. He will continue being enabled by high-profile Republicans. And on January 20, he'll have to be dragged out of the White House.

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Wow, I can't believe I was so off.

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It was all so predictable, which (and no offense to you) is why it's so perplexing that so many Republicans couldn't figure it/him out.

82gradDLSdad said:

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"I am really looking forward to having professional politicians back in charge."

Reminds me of a line in Ocean's 11 when Basher comes back to work with the gang.

"It will be nice working with proper villains again!"

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Don't be soooo cynical.
Listen to Michael Lewis in The Fifth Risk talk about the thousands of heroic government civil servants who are perform thankless but necessary tasks. He says that if the Government were a stock, it would be undervalued.

okaydo said:

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My prediction: It's not that Trump is not going to go quietly, it's that he's unable to grasp legitimately losing.

I predict there will be a standoff. He'll just continue carrying on being president. He'll continue denying he lost the election. He will continue being enabled by high-profile Republicans. And on January 20, he'll have to be dragged out of the White House.

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Yes! It looks like my prediction is becoming truer.

concordtom said:

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82gradDLSdad said:

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"I am really looking forward to having professional politicians back in charge."

Reminds me of a line in Ocean's 11 when Basher comes back to work with the gang.

"It will be nice working with proper villains again!"

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Don't be soooo cynical.
Listen to Michael Lewis in The Fifth Risk talk about the thousands of heroic government civil servants who are heroes.

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Wasn't being cynical.

Cnn reports Lindel got 5 minutes in the white house. If trump tried any of that stuff the military would not comply and Pence would probably remove him.

So, you're saying the Pillow guy is a follower of Q and got the boot?
Which is why he still hadn't even tossed his coffee cup yet?