Obama blames Trump's election on racism

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Kaworu
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/obama-book-trump-racism-election-memoir-lawrence-jones
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Someday there will be a black President.
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Anarchistbear said:

Someday there will be a black President.
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okaydo
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All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.

Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
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Yogi THE Bear said:

okaydo said:

All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.

Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.
Does he work for Twitter? Never seen one guy post so much Twitter content in my life.
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Kaworu said:

Anarchistbear said:

Someday there will be a black President.
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Kaworu said:

Yogi THE Bear said:

okaydo said:

All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.

Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.
Does he work for Twitter? Never seen one guy post so much Twitter content in my life.
lay of the land: see an unfamiliar Handle,,, most likely that's Yogi

originally thought you were him/her too, as may be..
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Tom Joad / Yogi: Then it don't matter. I'll be all around in the dark - I'll be everywhere. Wherever you can look - wherever there's a fight, so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad. I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready, and when the people are eatin' the stuff they raise and livin' in the houses they build - I'll be there, too.
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Yogi THE Bear said:

okaydo said:

All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.

Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.

Or this is the Tea Party being concerned about the president's identity under the guise of the "debt."
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Kaworu said:

Yogi THE Bear said:

okaydo said:

All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.

Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.
Does he work for Twitter? Never seen one guy post so much Twitter content in my life.

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okaydo said:

Yes, I make 85 cents per tweet I post.

Thanks for contributing to my commission.
okaydo == yogi ?
helltopay1
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yeah......we are so racist that we elected & re-elected this fraud TWICE!!!!!!
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We've already had a "black" president. Trump, because of his economic policies ( lower taxes and de-regulation) created the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960. That's why Trump increased his support among blacks, Hispanics, asians and even gays during this last election. The Republican party is rapidly becoming the party of the working class, middle class and "ethnic minorities" while the Democrats has become the party of Big Business, Wall Street, Big Tech, the Elites, and those individuals and businesses who need to continue their dependence on Communist China. The two parties have flipped . Glory be!!!!!!
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" The biggest beneficiaries are the party's [Republicans] biggest patrons the billionaire class, including the heads of the nation's largest corporations and financial institutions, private-equity partnerships and hedge funds whom a deeply divided nation serves by giving them unfettered access to the economy's gains.

Their heist started four decades ago. According to a recent Rand study, if America's distribution of income had remained the same as it was in the three decades following the second world war, the bottom 90% would now be $47tn richer.

A low-income American earning $35,000 this year would be earning $61,000. A college-educated worker now earning $72,000 would be earning $120,000. Overall, the grotesque surge in inequality that began 40 years ago is costing the median American worker $42,000 per year.

The upward redistribution of $47tn wasn't due to natural forces. It was contrived. As wealth accumulated at the top, so did political power to siphon off even more wealth and shaft everyone else.

Monopolies expanded because antitrust laws were neutered. Labor unions shriveled because corporations were allowed to bust unions. Wall Street was permitted to gamble with other people's money and was bailed out when its bets soured even as millions lost their homes and savings. Taxes on the top were cut, tax loopholes widened.

When Covid-19 hit, big tech cornered the market, the rich traded on inside information and the Treasury and the Fed bailed out big corporations but let small businesses go under. Since March, billionaire wealth has soared while most of America has become poorer.

How could the oligarchy get away with this in a democracy where the bottom 90% have the votes? Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided.

Long before Trump, the GOP suggested to white working-class voters that their real enemies were Black people, Latinos, immigrants, "coastal elites", bureaucrats and "socialists". Trump rode their anger and frustration into the White House with more explicit and incendiary messages. He's still at it with his bonkers claim of a stolen election.

The oligarchy surely appreciates the Trump-GOP tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks and the most business-friendly supreme court since the early 1930s. But the Trump-GOP's biggest gift has been an electorate more fiercely split than ever."
-Robert Reich, The Guardian

*Yes, Yogi/Sybil, the Progressive agenda will dismantle this corrupt system faster than the Dems (who helped create and maintain it)... when your time comes and you can get the votes to win.
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helltopay1 said:

the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.


Please provide support for this claim
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It's not hard to understand the racism propelling the Trump campaign. Trump didn't run against Obama. McCain and Romney did not run against Obama by enflaming racial issues. The white race voters stayed home in those elections. Then Trump came out as an identity politics candidate purposefully triggering the race issue in this country, pulling racists off the sidelines. Obama-Trump voters (about 7 million) were decisive in 2016, as were white, rural voters. But where did all those 2020 Trump voters come from? The white, rural, sidelines. They did not come out for establishment Republicanism. They did not come out for Democrats. But these white, rural voters came out for a 2nd round of Trump.
McCain got 60 million votes
Romney 61 million votes
Trump I 63 million votes
Trump II 74 million votes

They all still had fewer votes in those elections but the Electoral College gives those white, rural voters more weight. Hence the Trump Presidency America never wanted or supported.

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bearister said:

" The biggest beneficiaries are the party's [Republicans] biggest patrons the billionaire class, including the heads of the nation's largest corporations and financial institutions, private-equity partnerships and hedge funds whom a deeply divided nation serves by giving them unfettered access to the economy's gains.

Their heist started four decades ago. According to a recent Rand study, if America's distribution of income had remained the same as it was in the three decades following the second world war, the bottom 90% would now be $47tn richer.

A low-income American earning $35,000 this year would be earning $61,000. A college-educated worker now earning $72,000 would be earning $120,000. Overall, the grotesque surge in inequality that began 40 years ago is costing the median American worker $42,000 per year.

The upward redistribution of $47tn wasn't due to natural forces. It was contrived. As wealth accumulated at the top, so did political power to siphon off even more wealth and shaft everyone else.

Monopolies expanded because antitrust laws were neutered. Labor unions shriveled because corporations were allowed to bust unions. Wall Street was permitted to gamble with other people's money and was bailed out when its bets soured even as millions lost their homes and savings. Taxes on the top were cut, tax loopholes widened.

When Covid-19 hit, big tech cornered the market, the rich traded on inside information and the Treasury and the Fed bailed out big corporations but let small businesses go under. Since March, billionaire wealth has soared while most of America has become poorer.

How could the oligarchy get away with this in a democracy where the bottom 90% have the votes? Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided.

Long before Trump, the GOP suggested to white working-class voters that their real enemies were Black people, Latinos, immigrants, "coastal elites", bureaucrats and "socialists". Trump rode their anger and frustration into the White House with more explicit and incendiary messages. He's still at it with his bonkers claim of a stolen election.

The oligarchy surely appreciates the Trump-GOP tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks and the most business-friendly supreme court since the early 1930s. But the Trump-GOP's biggest gift has been an electorate more fiercely split than ever."
-Robert Reich, The Guardian

*Yes, Yogi/Sybil, the Progressive agenda will dismantle this corrupt system faster than the Dems (who helped create and maintain it)... when your time comes and you can get the votes to win.


"Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided."

This is so true.

One half: just shut up, and work hard. Minimize the government and we'll be fine. Maybe, maybe not, but less likely than before.

Other half: help us government. The system is rigged against us and you're our only chance. Maybe, maybe not, but less likely than before.
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"But where did all those 2020 Trump voters come from.."

Same place as last time, voting machines hacked by Russians. They simply underestimated this time. They figured 71 million votes would be more than enough for their orange asset to win. Oops! I guess the comrades that ran that operation are dirt napping by now.

Russia hacked voting systems in 39 states before the 2016 presidential election - Vox


https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/15791744/russia-election-39-states-hack-putin-trump-sessions


How Safe Is the US Election from Hacking? | by Jennifer Cohn | The New York Review of Books


https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/10/31/how-safe-is-the-us-election-from-hacking/




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Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/
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bearister said:

"But where did all those 2020 Trump voters come from.."

Same place as last time, voting machines hacked by Russians. They simply underestimated this time. They figured 71 million votes would be more than enough for their orange asset to win. Oops! I guess the comrades that ran that operation are dirt napping by now.

Russia hacked voting systems in 39 states before the 2016 presidential election - Vox


https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/15791744/russia-election-39-states-hack-putin-trump-sessions


How Safe Is the US Election from Hacking? | by Jennifer Cohn | The New York Review of Books


https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/10/31/how-safe-is-the-us-election-from-hacking/
Voting machines should never ever be connected to the Internet.

As for the Russians creating actual voters, that's not actually happening.
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82gradDLSdad said:

bearister said:

" The biggest beneficiaries are the party's [Republicans] biggest patrons the billionaire class, including the heads of the nation's largest corporations and financial institutions, private-equity partnerships and hedge funds whom a deeply divided nation serves by giving them unfettered access to the economy's gains.

Their heist started four decades ago. According to a recent Rand study, if America's distribution of income had remained the same as it was in the three decades following the second world war, the bottom 90% would now be $47tn richer.

A low-income American earning $35,000 this year would be earning $61,000. A college-educated worker now earning $72,000 would be earning $120,000. Overall, the grotesque surge in inequality that began 40 years ago is costing the median American worker $42,000 per year.

The upward redistribution of $47tn wasn't due to natural forces. It was contrived. As wealth accumulated at the top, so did political power to siphon off even more wealth and shaft everyone else.

Monopolies expanded because antitrust laws were neutered. Labor unions shriveled because corporations were allowed to bust unions. Wall Street was permitted to gamble with other people's money and was bailed out when its bets soured even as millions lost their homes and savings. Taxes on the top were cut, tax loopholes widened.

When Covid-19 hit, big tech cornered the market, the rich traded on inside information and the Treasury and the Fed bailed out big corporations but let small businesses go under. Since March, billionaire wealth has soared while most of America has become poorer.

How could the oligarchy get away with this in a democracy where the bottom 90% have the votes? Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided.

Long before Trump, the GOP suggested to white working-class voters that their real enemies were Black people, Latinos, immigrants, "coastal elites", bureaucrats and "socialists". Trump rode their anger and frustration into the White House with more explicit and incendiary messages. He's still at it with his bonkers claim of a stolen election.

The oligarchy surely appreciates the Trump-GOP tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks and the most business-friendly supreme court since the early 1930s. But the Trump-GOP's biggest gift has been an electorate more fiercely split than ever."
-Robert Reich, The Guardian

*Yes, Yogi/Sybil, the Progressive agenda will dismantle this corrupt system faster than the Dems (who helped create and maintain it)... when your time comes and you can get the votes to win.


"Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided."

This is so true.

One half: just shut up, and work hard. Minimize the government and we'll be fine. Maybe, maybe not, but less likely than before.

Other half: help us government. The system is rigged against us and you're our only chance. Maybe, maybe not, but less likely than before.
I don't think there are any factions in the 90% that truly don't want government handouts. Look at all of the corporate subsidies, farm subsidies, etc. They just don't want handouts going to "others". Trump won a lot of voters over by promising them government assistance. You shouldn't confuse cutting safety and environmental regulation with cutting handouts.
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Professor Yogi said:

bearister said:

Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/

It's not hard for me to say that I way preferred Obama over Trump, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by his eight years. I remember being in school on his inauguration day and his inauguration speech being played live and thinking that something really big had happened. I wish I had that level of optimism again.
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Kaworu said:

Professor Yogi said:

bearister said:

Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/

It's not hard for me to say that I way preferred Obama over Trump, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by his eight years. I remember being in school on his inauguration day and his inauguration speech being played live and thinking that something really big had happened. I wish I had that level of optimism again.

Something big did happen. It showed an African-American can hold the highest office in the land. That would have been unthinkable 150 years ago.

Maybe someday soon so will a woman, an openly gay person, an Asian-American, or another minority.

It took a decade between when Rosa Parks refused to relinquish her seat and the passage of the Civil Rights Act.

It took 36 years from Geraldine Ferraro's nomination until a woman became VP.

I still have a lot of optimism when I see the attitudes and beliefs of today's youth. It will take time, because the establishment keeps nominating older and older candidates, but eventually they will take their rightful place. I am not saying it will bring about some sort of utopia, but definitely more aligned with the desires of most Americans than these dinosaurs that are running the country now.








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Kaworu said:

Professor Yogi said:

bearister said:

Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic


https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/

It's not hard for me to say that I way preferred Obama over Trump, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by his eight years. I remember being in school on his inauguration day and his inauguration speech being played live and thinking that something really big had happened. I wish I had that level of optimism again.


Sorry you fooled yourself. Nothing Obama ever said should have made you think he was anything but a center-left negotiator.
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dimitrig said:

Something big did happen..
triffling baby steps, very late in the game.
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dajo9 said:

helltopay1 said:

the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.


Please provide support for this claim


Not economic, but related: Trump's prison reform is the singular greatest thing done by a president for the black community the past 20 years.

Go ahead and name one other thing by another president.
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hanky1 said:

dajo9 said:

helltopay1 said:

the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.


Please provide support for this claim


Not economic, but related: Trump's prison reform is the singular greatest thing done by a president for the black community the past 20 years.

Go ahead and name one other thing by another president.

hanky, can you defend your boy Trump trying to throw out black peoples' votes. Do you agree with your fellow GOPers?
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We need actual anti-trust enforcement, but I'm skeptical either party has an appetite for it
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yep!!!!!!We proved our racism by electing and re-electing the greatest fraud in American history in 2008 and 2012. Can't get anymore racist than that...
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hanky1 said:

dajo9 said:

helltopay1 said:

the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.


Please provide support for this claim


Not economic, but related: Trump's prison reform is the singular greatest thing done by a president for the black community the past 20 years.

Go ahead and name one other thing by another president.


There are 2.1 million people in American prisons. How many will there be after this legislation?

About the same.

Obamacare had a much better impact on the black community. On all communities.
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The word racism is like ketchup to the Democrats, they can use it on anything.
The difference between a right wing conspiracy and the truth is about 20 months.
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smh said:

Kaworu said:

Anarchistbear said:

Someday there will be a black President.
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Oh look: YogiHydra resurrected another one of his brain dead threads.
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okaydo said:

All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.

Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
This is the saddest part of the modern day conservative, they are the donut hole. There is no there there. They have no sincerely held principle or belief. The defining value is just the opposite of what Liberals think or the position told to take in the culture war. But you can go issue to issue and there is no ethical coherence. No underlying commitment to any position of integrity that is enduring and resides outside of the winds of politics.

Week to week some remote issue they had never ever heard of before or cared for a moment about before is the new rage fuel. Suddenly they are all opinionated about something they know nothing about and that they could easily be on the other side of the argument if they were told that is the outrage side. It's a complete ongoing set of BS and that why debates here on BI are pointless. We are not actually arguing an issue or a position. It's just the card says moops--I am only posting a s a conservative because it's fun to get you mad and I hate your team.

They believe in nothing. That did not used to be true. I used to have philosophical differences with conservatives. Now I just exist and they are mad screaming at some unpredictable different nonsense every week. It's not political party or value system, it is a cult of hating change and things they want to mock or can not understand. It's pure regression to simple emotions and refusal to have honest discussion/growth.
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