BINOAnarchistbear said:
Someday there will be a black President.
Does he work for Twitter? Never seen one guy post so much Twitter content in my life.Yogi THE Bear said:Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.okaydo said:
All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.
Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Black In Name OnlyKaworu said:BINOAnarchistbear said:
Someday there will be a black President.
lay of the land: see an unfamiliar Handle,,, most likely that's YogiKaworu said:Does he work for Twitter? Never seen one guy post so much Twitter content in my life.Yogi THE Bear said:Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.okaydo said:
All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.
Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Quote:
Tom Joad / Yogi: Then it don't matter. I'll be all around in the dark - I'll be everywhere. Wherever you can look - wherever there's a fight, so hungry people can eat, I'll be there. Wherever there's a cop beatin' up a guy, I'll be there. I'll be in the way guys yell when they're mad. I'll be in the way kids laugh when they're hungry and they know supper's ready, and when the people are eatin' the stuff they raise and livin' in the houses they build - I'll be there, too.
Yogi THE Bear said:Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.okaydo said:
All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.
Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
Kaworu said:Does he work for Twitter? Never seen one guy post so much Twitter content in my life.Yogi THE Bear said:Yeah, this thread is totally about the debt and not about Obama playing identity politics. Always nice to get the input from the board twit.okaydo said:
All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.
Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.
okaydo == yogi ?okaydo said:
Yes, I make 85 cents per tweet I post.
Thanks for contributing to my commission.
helltopay1 said:
the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.
bearister said:
" The biggest beneficiaries are the party's [Republicans] biggest patrons the billionaire class, including the heads of the nation's largest corporations and financial institutions, private-equity partnerships and hedge funds whom a deeply divided nation serves by giving them unfettered access to the economy's gains.
Their heist started four decades ago. According to a recent Rand study, if America's distribution of income had remained the same as it was in the three decades following the second world war, the bottom 90% would now be $47tn richer.
A low-income American earning $35,000 this year would be earning $61,000. A college-educated worker now earning $72,000 would be earning $120,000. Overall, the grotesque surge in inequality that began 40 years ago is costing the median American worker $42,000 per year.
The upward redistribution of $47tn wasn't due to natural forces. It was contrived. As wealth accumulated at the top, so did political power to siphon off even more wealth and shaft everyone else.
Monopolies expanded because antitrust laws were neutered. Labor unions shriveled because corporations were allowed to bust unions. Wall Street was permitted to gamble with other people's money and was bailed out when its bets soured even as millions lost their homes and savings. Taxes on the top were cut, tax loopholes widened.
When Covid-19 hit, big tech cornered the market, the rich traded on inside information and the Treasury and the Fed bailed out big corporations but let small businesses go under. Since March, billionaire wealth has soared while most of America has become poorer.
How could the oligarchy get away with this in a democracy where the bottom 90% have the votes? Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided.
Long before Trump, the GOP suggested to white working-class voters that their real enemies were Black people, Latinos, immigrants, "coastal elites", bureaucrats and "socialists". Trump rode their anger and frustration into the White House with more explicit and incendiary messages. He's still at it with his bonkers claim of a stolen election.
The oligarchy surely appreciates the Trump-GOP tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks and the most business-friendly supreme court since the early 1930s. But the Trump-GOP's biggest gift has been an electorate more fiercely split than ever."
-Robert Reich, The Guardian
*Yes, Yogi/Sybil, the Progressive agenda will dismantle this corrupt system faster than the Dems (who helped create and maintain it)... when your time comes and you can get the votes to win.
Voting machines should never ever be connected to the Internet.bearister said:
"But where did all those 2020 Trump voters come from.."
Same place as last time, voting machines hacked by Russians. They simply underestimated this time. They figured 71 million votes would be more than enough for their orange asset to win. Oops! I guess the comrades that ran that operation are dirt napping by now.
Russia hacked voting systems in 39 states before the 2016 presidential election - Vox
https://www.vox.com/world/2017/6/13/15791744/russia-election-39-states-hack-putin-trump-sessions
How Safe Is the US Election from Hacking? | by Jennifer Cohn | The New York Review of Books
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2020/10/31/how-safe-is-the-us-election-from-hacking/
I don't think there are any factions in the 90% that truly don't want government handouts. Look at all of the corporate subsidies, farm subsidies, etc. They just don't want handouts going to "others". Trump won a lot of voters over by promising them government assistance. You shouldn't confuse cutting safety and environmental regulation with cutting handouts.82gradDLSdad said:bearister said:
" The biggest beneficiaries are the party's [Republicans] biggest patrons the billionaire class, including the heads of the nation's largest corporations and financial institutions, private-equity partnerships and hedge funds whom a deeply divided nation serves by giving them unfettered access to the economy's gains.
Their heist started four decades ago. According to a recent Rand study, if America's distribution of income had remained the same as it was in the three decades following the second world war, the bottom 90% would now be $47tn richer.
A low-income American earning $35,000 this year would be earning $61,000. A college-educated worker now earning $72,000 would be earning $120,000. Overall, the grotesque surge in inequality that began 40 years ago is costing the median American worker $42,000 per year.
The upward redistribution of $47tn wasn't due to natural forces. It was contrived. As wealth accumulated at the top, so did political power to siphon off even more wealth and shaft everyone else.
Monopolies expanded because antitrust laws were neutered. Labor unions shriveled because corporations were allowed to bust unions. Wall Street was permitted to gamble with other people's money and was bailed out when its bets soured even as millions lost their homes and savings. Taxes on the top were cut, tax loopholes widened.
When Covid-19 hit, big tech cornered the market, the rich traded on inside information and the Treasury and the Fed bailed out big corporations but let small businesses go under. Since March, billionaire wealth has soared while most of America has become poorer.
How could the oligarchy get away with this in a democracy where the bottom 90% have the votes? Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided.
Long before Trump, the GOP suggested to white working-class voters that their real enemies were Black people, Latinos, immigrants, "coastal elites", bureaucrats and "socialists". Trump rode their anger and frustration into the White House with more explicit and incendiary messages. He's still at it with his bonkers claim of a stolen election.
The oligarchy surely appreciates the Trump-GOP tax cuts, regulatory rollbacks and the most business-friendly supreme court since the early 1930s. But the Trump-GOP's biggest gift has been an electorate more fiercely split than ever."
-Robert Reich, The Guardian
*Yes, Yogi/Sybil, the Progressive agenda will dismantle this corrupt system faster than the Dems (who helped create and maintain it)... when your time comes and you can get the votes to win.
"Because the bottom 90% are bitterly divided."
This is so true.
One half: just shut up, and work hard. Minimize the government and we'll be fine. Maybe, maybe not, but less likely than before.
Other half: help us government. The system is rigged against us and you're our only chance. Maybe, maybe not, but less likely than before.
It's not hard for me to say that I way preferred Obama over Trump, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by his eight years. I remember being in school on his inauguration day and his inauguration speech being played live and thinking that something really big had happened. I wish I had that level of optimism again.Professor Yogi said:bearister said:
Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/
Kaworu said:It's not hard for me to say that I way preferred Obama over Trump, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by his eight years. I remember being in school on his inauguration day and his inauguration speech being played live and thinking that something really big had happened. I wish I had that level of optimism again.Professor Yogi said:bearister said:
Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/
Kaworu said:It's not hard for me to say that I way preferred Obama over Trump, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't disappointed by his eight years. I remember being in school on his inauguration day and his inauguration speech being played live and thinking that something really big had happened. I wish I had that level of optimism again.Professor Yogi said:bearister said:
Why Obama Fears for Our Democracy - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/11/why-obama-fears-for-our-democracy/617087/
triffling baby steps, very late in the game.dimitrig said:
Something big did happen..
dajo9 said:helltopay1 said:
the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.
Please provide support for this claim
hanky1 said:dajo9 said:helltopay1 said:
the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.
Please provide support for this claim
Not economic, but related: Trump's prison reform is the singular greatest thing done by a president for the black community the past 20 years.
Go ahead and name one other thing by another president.
hanky1 said:dajo9 said:helltopay1 said:
the greatest employment opportunities for blacks ( and hispanics and Asians) not seen since 1960.
Please provide support for this claim
Not economic, but related: Trump's prison reform is the singular greatest thing done by a president for the black community the past 20 years.
Go ahead and name one other thing by another president.
This is the saddest part of the modern day conservative, they are the donut hole. There is no there there. They have no sincerely held principle or belief. The defining value is just the opposite of what Liberals think or the position told to take in the culture war. But you can go issue to issue and there is no ethical coherence. No underlying commitment to any position of integrity that is enduring and resides outside of the winds of politics.okaydo said:
All I know is that the Tea Party really, really cared about the debt during the Obama administration.
Yet when Trump created more debt than Obama, you never heard a peep.