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Bears' New TE Coach Tim Plough Ready For New Challenge at Cal

January 27, 2023
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The Bears made a big shift in philosophy at the tight end coaching position in the offseason, much as they have on all the offensive coaching changes, replacing longtime veteran Geep Chryst with a young, enthusiastic and offensively creative new addition in new tight ends coach Tim Plough.

Plough brings a wealth of offensive experience with him having been an OC for 10 years at Northern Arizona, UC Davis and Boise State. He also was involved in game planning as a consultant to the program late in the Bears’ tumultuous 2022 season.

Plough has had the opportunity to coach against Cal twice with UC Davis and is anxious to be in the home locker room instead this next season.

“I was there when (Jeff) Tedford was still the coach (in 2010), so I actually coached there twice,” said Plough. “The first time Tedford was still coaching and it was my first game as an actual coach. I was a quarterback coach at UC Davis. We got killed (34-13). I think it was Keenan Allen’s first game. He was a freshman, I think. He might have thrown for a touchdown, ran for a touchdown, and caught a touchdown. Cameron Jordan was on the defensive line. Long, long, long player.

“The next time I was with Coach Hawk (Dan Hawkins) and we came up here and we were pretty good that year (a 27-13 Cal victory). Hung in there for a while and that was one of the first times I ever talked to (Justin) Wilcox. After that game he called me with the defensive staff, and we just compared notes from the game. That was the first time I ever talked one on one with him.”

“That doesn’t happen very often. If you know you’re not going to see them again and FCS to FBS that’s a good opportunity for them to get some scouting done from another opponent just so they know and with Wilcox and Hawkins being so close. That was cool for me.

“The defensive staff here has been really good for a long time under Justin (Wilcox) so to have them critique what we were doing and tell us some stuff we were doing well was really helpful.”

One of the first things that Plough was able to see during his stint as a consultant during part of last season and after his arrival at Cal was the closeness between the players, the tight bonds of the staff and the strong relationship the players have with the Cal staff and despite the highly disappointing season, the buy-in and resolve of the players remains strong.

“Obviously, we all want to win games and no one is more competitive than Justin Wilcox,” Plough said. “We all want to win and no one is satisfied at all with the record from a year ago but what I saw in my small time visiting was a team that was all in, was working their butt off to win those games at the end of the year and a head coach and a leader that was really pushing them to continue to strive to be as good as they can be. But also doing it in a really respectful way and to witness that when you have a season without having the amount of wins you want, that’s when you’re going to see what kind of people are here and that was a cool thing for me was to be a fly on the wall to see that these are really good people.

“They work really hard; they care about the players and the players care about them. I think that is a great place to lead toward a lot of wins. Now it’s time to get over that hump and turn those close losses into close wins and that can happen really fast nowadays.”

That feeling was especially evident in Cal’s late games against tough competition where the team could’ve easily folded but rather battled to tight 41-35 and 35-29 losses at USC and to UCLA at Memorial.

“I think you could tell by the last few games. Playing USC as tough as we did, playing UCLA as tough as we did, I think a lot of teams in that situation could have gone a lot of different ways. So I think that is a sign of how much the players care about the staff and how much the staff cares about the players and wants to lead to success. You have to put the work in and it is a result-oriented business but I think if you have that then it is achievable to turn things around. That’s the exciting thing about being here.”

Plough brings a unique depth of knowledge to the game having spent the bulk of his time as a coach as an offensive coordinator so he brings a unique perspective to coaching tight ends with a full knowledge how his corps fit into the overall scheme and game plan on any given Saturday.

“I think the cool thing for me is that I have been the coordinator for 12 of the 15 years I have been a coach so I had to coach all the positions anyways because when you’re a coordinator, you have to have a wide knowledge of all the positions anyways,” noted Plough. “I have always been involved with tight ends because they have to do so much offensively. They have to be involved in the run game, the pass game, protections, and all that. So I have always felt like if I wasn’t going to coach quarterbacks, tight Ends is the next best thing with the involvement that they have in all of the facets of the offense.

“I feel well versed in that and I am excited for the challenge and having a position room that I can sink my teeth into and develop those guys in what I think is an important position but also giving them a wide lens of the full picture through the quarterback’s eyes and quarterback coordinating I have helped with can help them see the game from a different light that will help them anticipate and play faster and more confidently. So I am excited for that and I think it’ll be a lot of fun.”

Plough was asked about the approach the staff is taking with their tight end additions this offseason and how they envision them fitting in.

“I think the world we’re in with the transfers and everything, you’re taking a look at transfers that can fit in with what you’re doing schematically but more importantly, they have to fit within the culture of the team,” Plough noted. “I think both of these guys check those boxes.

“Asher (Alberding) already has a leg up because he was in the North Texas program and he knows Coach (Mike) Bloesch’s run game really well and I think that is going to allow him to get a head start on things and be confident in the verbiage and all of that. He's an extremely physical player at the point of attack, an excellent run blocker, an excellent pass protector who didn’t have a chance to show what he was capable of in the pass game, which was one of the reasons he was excited about getting out here because he was more excited about the opportunity to be involved in catching passes, too and be in the type of offense that Spav (Jake Spavital) can create.

“JT (Byrne), during the covid year of 2020, we were recruiting him pretty heavily to UC Davis before he sort of blew up and started receiving Pac-12 offers. He did not really get a senior football season because of covid which I think probably stopped some of his bigger recruiting. He did a great job at Oregon State, developed really well as a pass blocker.

“He was a tremendous athlete in high school, also playing baseball and basketball. I think for him it was about coming back to the bay area and coming back home. He always wanted to be a part of the Cal program from an academic standpoint. But I think he's the type of guy that has the athleticism where he can do some real damage in the passing game, and I think he will fit really well in the run schemes we’re putting together.

“I remember when he was coming out in his high school tape, he played quarterback and safety and wideout and tight end. He kind of played everything. I remember we really liked him because he was a great baseball and basketball player, so he was one of those guys that was a great athlete and played everything. So, I wasn’t shocked he went out to a Pac-12 school right out of high school. He’s always wanted to be a part of the Cal program; he’s had a real close relationship with (former Cal LB) Scott Fujita and he looked at this as an opportunity to get into a program he’s really wanted to be a part of and be part of an offensive scheme where I think fits his traits really well.”

Both new portal additions are particularly impressive off the field as well.

“Asher’s (Alberding) got his own cryptocurrency business that he started. He's already in the master’s program here. He’s doing the same thing Jackson Sirmon is doing. JT (Byrne) you feel like could be the president of the United States one day with the way he is able to talk to people. Both of these guys fit this program really well. In lifts and workouts, already you can tell how excited they are and they’re both really going to help us because the attitude in that room and the type of culture we have really fits really well.”

One of the returning tight ends Plough is anxious to get his hands on is 6-4/240 redshirt junior Elijah Mojarro, who has played in 25 games, starting two in 2022, with 6 receptions for 73 yards as a redshirt soph last season.

“You know I did see his film and I have been around the program a little bit before and got to see him, Plough said of Mojarro. “I just love how physical he is, and how much he cares about his teammates. I think he started on all the special teams’ units. Again, I think he is a selfless guy that cares about the program, defiantly a guy I am excited to see in this scheme to see what he can do in the run game and the pass game. Another great kid and I am excited about him.”

Another player the new TE coach is looking to work with is incoming frosh Ben Marshall‍, a versatile and athletic tight end who will likely be the most athletic pass catcher of the unit.

“He’s kind of funny, similar to the JT Byrne high school film. He played wildcat quarterback and he has lots of athleticism he has. A funny story for him is on his recruiting trip, they went to Chase Arena and they were doing the basketball game knockout game with the recruits on the court and he was doing windmill dunks. I think his biggest hurdle is getting in the weight room and putting on the type of weight where he can play comfortably at that position. He’s got the frame to do that and is just a good kid from a good family. I think he gets it from all the levels, and I think we just need to develop him from a physical standpoint and putting on weight and everything but athletically, he’s everything you want.”

With the departure through the portal of preferred walk-on fullback Beau Tagaloa, the Bears don’t have a clear candidate as of yet for the seldom-used fullback slot but former linebacker Andy Alfieri, who made the switch to the tight end/fullback position in fall camp last year could potentially be a candidate since he played some running back in high school.

“I think that is always tough,” Plough said of the transition. “When you’re playing one side of the ball then you make that transition where you have to learn new fundamentals and aspects of the game so I have an appreciation of how difficult that is. I think as a person, he checks all the boxes; I was talking to him about it the other day, a clean slate from steps A to Z. Let’s just teach the fundamentals and get you confident in that position and see where that leads. Obviously, I think he has good ability. It's just that opportunity to make that full transition.”

“I think he’s a guy that could definitely do that. Usually, you’ll see those linebacker types of transitions to that. We always joke about Malik McMorris. He’s a part of the program now with the defense but we were watching some film of him the other day. A big bowling ball of butcher knives, knocking people over. I think all that is on the table for guys.”

Plough also has his eyes on 6-5/230 redshirt frosh tight end Jack Endries who spurned scholarship opportunities at several Ivies and service academies as well as San Jose State and Fresno State to walk-on at Cal for the chance to eventually earn a scholarship. Endries displayed ample receiving skills at nearby Monte Vista in high school, frequently flexing out, compiling 49 catches for 579 yards and nine touchdowns in 10 games his senior season.

“I think one guy that jumped out to me watching the practice film from the year and watching the team was Jack Endries,” noted Plough. “I think he’s a tremendous athlete that has a lot of good traits. Checks all the boxes of things we talked about, and I am excited about him, I think he’s got a really bright future too. So he’s another guy that will be fun to watch in spring. He was on the scout team a lot last year and they speak frequently about his ability going against them all year so again I think that says a lot about who he is.”

Plough (37) is one of three current or former offensive coordinators in the Bears’ new offensive brain trust, all under 40.

It should be a new look indeed for the Cal offense in 2023 and it can’t come soon enough.

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Bears' New TE Coach Tim Plough Ready For New Challenge at Cal

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GoOskie
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Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.
AXLBear
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Is chryst still on staff?
bluehenbear
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Seems weird there is no link to staff or staff bios on calbears.com

This site still list musgrave as OC…
GivemTheAxe
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GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
Cal Strong!
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AXLBear said:

Is chryst still on staff?
Strong question AXLBear.

Cal Strong hope not.
MoragaBear
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AXLBear said:

Is chryst still on staff?
Christ is no longer on staff. Plough took his place.

All the bios have been updated.
MoragaBear
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bluehenbear said:

Seems weird there is no link to staff or staff bios on calbears.com

This site still list musgrave as OC…
That's because their rosters are 2022 and the 2023 early signing class. When they put out a 2023 roster for spring ball, they'll have the changes.
calumnus
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GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.


I'm hoping we also have a coach in the press box this year. Doesn't have to be the play caller, but I think the overhead perspective helps. Sideline view is too-two dimensional.
Rushinbear
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calumnus said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.


I'm hoping we also have a coach in the press box this year. Doesn't have to be the play caller, but I think the overhead perspective helps. Sideline view is too-two dimensional.
sideline - pulse of the team.

press box - see what they're doing (and other team)
calumnus
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Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.


I'm hoping we also have a coach in the press box this year. Doesn't have to be the play caller, but I think the overhead perspective helps. Sideline view is too-two dimensional.
sideline - pulse of the team.

press box - see what they're doing (and other team)


Mostly, I want the guy calling plays to be in the press box which neither of the last two did. The two roles on the sideline are: 1 motivation (Baldwin was a good motivator, better than Wilcox, but Musgrave was worse) and 2. QB coaching (Musgrave's ostensible reason).

The other issue is logistical: An offensive oriented HC like Tedford had an OC in the press box who radioed the play call into him (which he could change) and had a QB coach working with the QB. Tedford oversaw everything (plus reviewed his huge playsheet). Wilcox is a defensive guy so he stays out of the offensive decision making except for the kick/go for it and use of time outs. Thus having three OCs could allow Spavital to assume the role of "offensive Head coach" with someone else in the press box signaling in play suggestions, though clearly tgat didn't work well at Texas State. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.
GivemTheAxe
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calumnus said:

Rushinbear said:

calumnus said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.


I'm hoping we also have a coach in the press box this year. Doesn't have to be the play caller, but I think the overhead perspective helps. Sideline view is too-two dimensional.
sideline - pulse of the team.

press box - see what they're doing (and other team)


Mostly, I want the guy calling plays to be in the press box which neither of the last two did. The two roles on the sideline are: 1 motivation (Baldwin was a good motivator, better than Wilcox, but Musgrave was worse) and 2. QB coaching (Musgrave's ostensible reason).

The other issue is logistical: An offensive oriented HC like Tedford had an OC in the press box who radioed the play call into him (which he could change) and had a QB coach working with the QB. Tedford oversaw everything (plus reviewed his huge playsheet). Wilcox is a defensive guy so he stays out of the offensive decision making except for the kick/go for it and use of time outs. Thus having three OCs could allow Spavital to assume the role of "offensive Head coach" with someone else in the press box signaling in play suggestions, though clearly tgat didn't work well at Texas State. It will be interesting to see how they handle it.

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Very good analysis. I had not thought of all the points you brought up.
Blueblood
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GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?
calumnus
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Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
91Cal
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calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
Bobodeluxe
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91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.
91Cal
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Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.

So you do acknowledge the inclusion of the qualifier "potentially" in my comment…his highlight reel is unlike any QB coming to Cal in the modern era, including his sparse highlights under Sonny. Enjoy your salt mine, I'll enjoy sunshine this time of year…plent of time before the sun fades in the fall
calumnus
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Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.


A guy who was widely recognized as the QB of the future on a team that just played in the National Championship game. A guy who the people working with both QBs thought had a higher ceiling than the runner up in the Heisman voting. A guy who was wanted by everybody and we landed over 30 major programs…

You can be cautious if you want, this staff needs to prove itself, but there is no need to denigrate Sam Jackson or minimize what a coup it was for Cal to land him.
Big C
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calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.


A guy who was widely recognized as the QB of the future on a team that just played in the National Championship game. A guy who the people working with both QBs thought had a higher ceiling than the runner up in the Heisman voting. A guy who was wanted by everybody and we landed over 30 major programs…

You can be cautious if you want, this staff needs to prove itself, but there is no need to denigrate Sam Jackson or minimize what a coup it was for Cal to land him.

I will be rooting for Sam Jackson, big time, but I'm not denigrating him in the least when I say: He needs to demonstrate that he can pass the ball pretty well at this level.
calumnus
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Big C said:

calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.


A guy who was widely recognized as the QB of the future on a team that just played in the National Championship game. A guy who the people working with both QBs thought had a higher ceiling than the runner up in the Heisman voting. A guy who was wanted by everybody and we landed over 30 major programs…

You can be cautious if you want, this staff needs to prove itself, but there is no need to denigrate Sam Jackson or minimize what a coup it was for Cal to land him.

I will be rooting for Sam Jackson, big time, but I'm not denigrating him in the least when I say: He needs to demonstrate that he can pass the ball pretty well at this level.


He has demonstrated he can pass the ball VERY well at this level, but he has not yet demonstrated that over an entire game much less over an entire season. However, he clearly has a great arm, great strength and accuracy and can throw while on the move.

I really think our success or failure on offense this year will depend more (as it has the last 6) on scheme and having a workable OL to fit that scheme. What Sam Jackson offers with his mobility and ability to elude rushers and extend plays is a hedge against that plus huge upside.
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Big C said:

calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.


A guy who was widely recognized as the QB of the future on a team that just played in the National Championship game. A guy who the people working with both QBs thought had a higher ceiling than the runner up in the Heisman voting. A guy who was wanted by everybody and we landed over 30 major programs…

You can be cautious if you want, this staff needs to prove itself, but there is no need to denigrate Sam Jackson or minimize what a coup it was for Cal to land him.

I will be rooting for Sam Jackson, big time, but I'm not denigrating him in the least when I say: He needs to demonstrate that he can pass the ball pretty well at this level.
He has completed every pass he has thrown at this level.
Big C
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NVBear78 said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.


A guy who was widely recognized as the QB of the future on a team that just played in the National Championship game. A guy who the people working with both QBs thought had a higher ceiling than the runner up in the Heisman voting. A guy who was wanted by everybody and we landed over 30 major programs…

You can be cautious if you want, this staff needs to prove itself, but there is no need to denigrate Sam Jackson or minimize what a coup it was for Cal to land him.

I will be rooting for Sam Jackson, big time, but I'm not denigrating him in the least when I say: He needs to demonstrate that he can pass the ball pretty well at this level.
He has completed every pass he has thrown at this level.

You guys know what I mean!

Sorry, but I polished off my 2022 batch of Kool-Aid last September and I haven't mixed my 2023 batch yet. I will probably start mixing around the beginning of Spring Practice, when the reports come out about how much muscle the Bears have put on since December.
calumnus
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Big C said:

NVBear78 said:

Big C said:

calumnus said:

Bobodeluxe said:

91Cal said:

calumnus said:

Blueblood said:

GivemTheAxe said:

GoOskie said:

Hopefully, TEs become an integral part of the offense.

It looks like TEs will be an integral part.
What I find interesting is that we appear to now have Spav as our OC. But he (or Wilcox) brought in two other position coaches who have a lot of experience as being OCs.
I take it as a good sign. In the past Wilcox has had a lot of backup for his DC (with himself and DeR) And that has generally helped Cal's Defense get better in the second half of games.
Maybe all the extra OC brain power can help the Cal Offense get better in the second half of games.
This is a very good optimistic thought.

On the other hand, offensive improvement needs a good shot of talent. The players play the game; Wilcox has got to learn this. Cal has only so much talent, at least not enough to make any significant move against Pac 12 teams, like u$C, Utah, and ucla, or even it's fellow north division members like Oregon, Oregon State, and Washington.

But, quien sabe'?



We have consistently outrecruited Oregon State, but they have a great offense, because Jonathan Smith is a good coach.

Our talent level is not worse than 2016, when we lead the PAC-12 in offense,

Coaching matters.
AND we have a potentially game changer at QB for the first time in a while
A guy with a year of high school experience, and a year with Sonny?

Potentially overwhelmed.


A guy who was widely recognized as the QB of the future on a team that just played in the National Championship game. A guy who the people working with both QBs thought had a higher ceiling than the runner up in the Heisman voting. A guy who was wanted by everybody and we landed over 30 major programs…

You can be cautious if you want, this staff needs to prove itself, but there is no need to denigrate Sam Jackson or minimize what a coup it was for Cal to land him.

I will be rooting for Sam Jackson, big time, but I'm not denigrating him in the least when I say: He needs to demonstrate that he can pass the ball pretty well at this level.
He has completed every pass he has thrown at this level.

You guys know what I mean!

Sorry, but I polished off my 2022 batch of Kool-Aid last September and I haven't mixed my 2023 batch yet. I will probably start mixing around the beginning of Spring Practice, when the reports come out about how much muscle the Bears have put on since December.


Again, I am not ready to drink the Kool Aid, but Sam Jackson is not why I have doubts and concerns, he has mitigated those doubts and concerns and given me reason for hope that we can win more than 4 or 5 games.
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I'm amped for Jackson, but we really need a decent backup. He's not the biggest dude, and obviously, QBs that can carry the ball take more of a beating. He gets injured and the season is over, which has happened far too often in the last 20 years since we never seem to have a capable backup.
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Great addition.
calumnus
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PtownBear1 said:

I'm amped for Jackson, but we really need a decent backup. He's not the biggest dude, and obviously, QBs that can carry the ball take more of a beating. He gets injured and the season is over, which has happened far too often in the last 20 years since we never seem to have a capable backup.


I actually think immobile QBs take more of a beating.
PtownBear1
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calumnus said:

PtownBear1 said:

I'm amped for Jackson, but we really need a decent backup. He's not the biggest dude, and obviously, QBs that can carry the ball take more of a beating. He gets injured and the season is over, which has happened far too often in the last 20 years since we never seem to have a capable backup.


I actually think immobile QBs take more of a beating.


Immobile around the pocket yes, but if the QB is going to carry the ball several times a game, that's several more opportunities to get tackled or sustain joint injuries.
calumnus
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PtownBear1 said:

calumnus said:

PtownBear1 said:

I'm amped for Jackson, but we really need a decent backup. He's not the biggest dude, and obviously, QBs that can carry the ball take more of a beating. He gets injured and the season is over, which has happened far too often in the last 20 years since we never seem to have a capable backup.


I actually think immobile QBs take more of a beating.


Immobile around the pocket yes, but if the QB is going to carry the ball several times a game, that's several more opportunities to get tackled or sustain joint injuries.


That would make sense, but there doesn't seem to be as much evidence of it as you would think. Even running QBs generally sustain their worst injuries standing in the pocket throwing while getting crushed by a 300 lb guy running at them full speed. As runners, they are generally able to protect themselves and avoid direct hits, even moreso than RBs and WRs.

But to your point Bill Walsh once said "The two most important players on your team are the quarterback and the back-up quarterback."
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