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Charmin Smith Signs Contract Extension

April 4, 2024
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BERKELEY - California women’s basketball head coach Charmin Smith has signed a three-year contract extension, Cal Director of Athletics Jim Knowlton announced Thursday. Smith, who recently completed her fifth year as head coach, is now signed through the 2028-29 season.

“We are excited to extend Charmin’s contract as we generate momentum with our move to the ACC,” Knowlton said. “Charmin took our team to a new level this season, and I’m excited about the direction of our program under her leadership. Charmin understands and embraces everything it takes to thrive as a Cal student-athlete, and I can’t wait to see what the future holds for our team.”

Smith had her best year at the helm in 2023-24 as the Golden Bears won their most overall (19) and conference (seven) games since the 2018-19 season. Smith also guided Cal into the postseason for the first time since 2018-19 as the Bears earned an at-large bid and a No. 2 seed in this year’s inaugural NCAA Women’s Basketball Invitation Tournament. Under Smith’s guidance this season, the team also had its first weekend home and road sweeps of Pac-12 schools (both against Washington and Washington State) since 2018-19, swept Oregon for the first time since 2012-13 and set a program record for 3-pointers (282) in a season. The season sweeps of Oregon, Washington and Washington State mark the first time Cal has swept three different Pac-12 schools since 2017-18. The Bears also advanced to the quarterfinals of this year’s Pac-12 Tournament for the first time since 2019-20. Smith was named ESPN’s Coach of the Week on Jan. 8.

Next season, Smith will welcome a Top 25 (ESPN) recruiting class that features two ESPN HoopGurlz Top 100 players in Kamryn Mafua (54) and Zahra King (76) along with recently named Gatorade and MaxPreps Hawaii State Player of the Year Lola Donez.

“Cal is where I want to be and I’m thrilled that Jim and our university are committed to me leading this team into the ACC,” Smith said. “We accomplished a lot of great things this season and have momentum moving into next year during the most exciting time in women’s basketball. I’m proud of the progress we’ve made and I'm looking forward to taking the next steps with this special staff and the talent we are fortunate to coach."

Charmin Smith Signs Contract Extension

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In reply to stu • 10:47p, 4/5/24
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annarborbear said:
I have wondered for some time if Carol Christ has an unannounced strategy of moving us down to the level of a UC Davis type program, believing that we should not participate in the growing professionalism of college sports and that we would never have the level of resources needed to compete. That is the only reason that I can see for Knowlton's own contract extension and for his subsequent extension of coaching contracts with no related requirements to perform. I wouldn't mind that move down as an ultimate goal. But, if true,, she is really alienating a lot of fans and donors along the way with this unannounced approach.
I follow Cal basketball because I like the game and I graduated from Cal. I admire Charmin for recruiting students who get good grades and graduate. But if power conferences devolve to paid players changing schools every year I won't care anymore. My preference would be to form a conference of California schools which would expect players to be interested in school and stay through graduation, kind of a West Coast Ivy league without the ivy. Maybe Cal, Stanford, UC Davis, UC Santa Barbara, UC Irvine, UC Riverside, UC San Diego, and Cal Poly SLO.
You're yelling at clouds. Everyone is getting paid. It was literally ILLEGAL not to pay the players.

And no matter who Cal is playing, you want them to win, not go 17-62 in conference and then reward that coach with an extension.
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In reply to Alkiadt • 11:26p, 4/5/24
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Ashfield63 said:
WOW, so much for being hopeful. Where have all of you negative Bears been???

It sounds like senior citizen Hum Bug, but much worse. Some comments are down right

disrespectful to another human being. The downfall of the Pac-12 is depressing for sure,

but to discredit a genuine competent woman is something else. Some comments are an embarrassment

to the BEAR community who support the WBB program.

It's a great day of Women's Collegiate Basketball, The Final Four. Let's celebrate how far we have come!!

I am sure Charmin is in Cleveland, participating in NCAA Coaches meetings and activities and hopefully, not reading this disparaging page. She represents UCB with intelligence and dignity.


She's not a winner. That's the bottom line in this business and for what she makes financially. So she does good things in the community. So what? Lots of people do that. I've attended women's hoop games on and off. No more. This was a terrible decision. She'll get her hat handed to her from Tara in the ACC just like she did in the Pac….
Cal women's basketball makes no money.

It loses a lot and will continue to lose a lot. Even when it was winning, it was losing a lot.

For an AD that is cash-strapped but are bound by NCAA regulations to support, it will not be a priority for the AD to prioritize finding some top notch coach until it is profitable.

Keeping Charmin at a cheaper contract in the hopes she will break through with better NIL/recruiting is what we can expect for the near future.
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In reply to BearBorn11 • 12:08a, 4/6/24
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She has a career 17-62 record in league play and has never beaten a ranked opponent. Her best conference finish in 5 years is 8th. And this is AFTER she inherited a program that had gone to the NCAA tournament in 7 of the prior 8 years before her arrival.

Charmin Smith STINKS. She's a really bad basketball coach who has had plenty of time to figure it out. The product has been unwatchable and while she's been at the helm, Cal WBB has been surpassed in the league by multiple programs it dominated in the not too distant past.

This is a horrible extension and proof that Knowlton is one of the worst AD's in the country.


Here are the records:

. Loses 91% (2-20) of the games against in-state rivals.

. Loses around 80% (17-62) of the games against the conference opponents.

. Finished twice in the last place, once next to the last place, once in the 10th place and once in the 8th place in the conference despite the fact that the team used to finish in the upper half of the conference in the previous years.

. Never managed to get the team into the NCAA Tournament despite the fact that the team had been in the NCAA Tournament six of the prior seven years.

Does that record deserve a contract extension? Specially a five year contract extension?

Go Bears!

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In reply to calbear80 • 9:23a, 4/6/24
calbear80 said:
BearBorn11 said:
She has a career 17-62 record in league play and has never beaten a ranked opponent. Her best conference finish in 5 years is 8th. And this is AFTER she inherited a program that had gone to the NCAA tournament in 7 of the prior 8 years before her arrival.

Charmin Smith STINKS. She's a really bad basketball coach who has had plenty of time to figure it out. The product has been unwatchable and while she's been at the helm, Cal WBB has been surpassed in the league by multiple programs it dominated in the not too distant past.

This is a horrible extension and proof that Knowlton is one of the worst AD's in the country.


Here are the records:

. Loses 91% (2-20) of the games against in-state rivals.

. Loses around 80% (17-62) of the games against the conference opponents.

. Finished twice in the last place, once next to the last place, once in the 10th place and once in the 8th place in the conference despite the fact that the team used to finish in the upper half of the conference in the previous years.

. Never managed to get the team into the NCAA Tournament despite the fact that the team had been in the NCAA Tournament six of the prior seven years.

Does that record deserve a contract extension? Specially a five year contract extension?

Go Bears!

.
All the headlines say three year extension, which means her contract ran through 2026. So she got a quiet one year extension somewhere (I believe she also had the COVID extension).
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In reply to LessMilesMoreTedford • 9:48a, 4/6/24
LessMilesMoreTedford said:
calbear80 said:
BearBorn11 said:
She has a career 17-62 record in league play and has never beaten a ranked opponent. Her best conference finish in 5 years is 8th. And this is AFTER she inherited a program that had gone to the NCAA tournament in 7 of the prior 8 years before her arrival.

Charmin Smith STINKS. She's a really bad basketball coach who has had plenty of time to figure it out. The product has been unwatchable and while she's been at the helm, Cal WBB has been surpassed in the league by multiple programs it dominated in the not too distant past.

This is a horrible extension and proof that Knowlton is one of the worst AD's in the country.


Here are the records:

. Loses 91% (2-20) of the games against in-state rivals.

. Loses around 80% (17-62) of the games against the conference opponents.

. Finished twice in the last place, once next to the last place, once in the 10th place and once in the 8th place in the conference despite the fact that the team used to finish in the upper half of the conference in the previous years.

. Never managed to get the team into the NCAA Tournament despite the fact that the team had been in the NCAA Tournament six of the prior seven years.

Does that record deserve a contract extension? Specially a five year contract extension?

Go Bears!

.
All the headlines say three year extension, which means her contract ran through 2026. So she got a quiet one year extension somewhere (I believe she also had the COVID extension).
ANY extension is ridiculous. Why are we giving her 3 more years of guaranteed money? What, was she going to take another job if we offered her a one year extension instead? Gimme a break.

The beauty of the new world is that the old logic of "well if a coach doesn't have 4 more years, how will they recruit?" has gone out the window. So what if they only have 1 or 2 years on their contract, any coach worth their salt is just going to build a new team out of the portal anyway.
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10:36a, 4/6/24
Are you making a big donation? how much. and where are your season tickets?
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In reply to wvitbear • 2:41p, 4/6/24
wvitbear said:
Are you making a big donation? how much. and where are your season tickets?
No, I'm not one of the 97 people who has season tickets to Cal women's basketball. I did take my daughter to three games last year, all of which Cal lost in miserable fashion. Tough to create new fans when the product is really bad.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to "protect" bad coaches. Charmin has made north of $2.5M in her 5 years at Cal. Her teams have also sucked. Fire her and hire someone else, she'll be fine.
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In reply to BearBorn11 • 2:59p, 4/6/24
BearBorn11 said:
wvitbear said:
Are you making a big donation? how much. and where are your season tickets?
No, I'm not one of the 97 people who has season tickets to Cal women's basketball. I did take my daughter to three games last year, all of which Cal lost in miserable fashion. Tough to create new fans when the product is really bad.

I'm not sure why people feel the need to "protect" bad coaches. Charmin has made north of $2.5M in her 5 years at Cal. Her teams have also sucked. Fire her and hire someone else, she'll be fine.
Nor are you a mathematician (far more than 97) or English major ("97 people who has season tickets..") Really? Have?

Give you credit for going to three games. I'm sure your daughter enjoyed herself more than you did. That's what counts. She's a future fan.

Which three games did you attend that we "lost in miserable fashion"?
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3:23p, 4/6/24
More Typical Employment Scenario Other Than at Cal:

Employee:

"I know I didn't do much in my first five years on the job, and customers are down by 50%, but I expect to do great in the next five years, so give me a long-term extension and a pay raise."

Employer:

"Have a nice lifetime."
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In reply to Alkiadt • 10:50a, 4/7/24
I don't know how many games the Women's team will win in the ACC next year. But it will almost certainly be more than what the Men's team will win. We are now in the "Pay for Play" era and the Cal AD clearly does not have the resources to attract the top talent to Berkeley - football and men's/women's basketball - be it high school recruits or the top portal talent. So without more backing from the alumni it is unrealistic to think we are going to be playing for conference championships. Coach Smith seems to be going a fine job in this environment - winning season, NIT invite, players graduating and a top 25 recruiting class. Sign her up!
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In reply to dha • 11:32a, 4/7/24
The AD does not do the paying. But a coach who inspires fans could leverage NIL.
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In reply to socaliganbear • 11:37a, 4/7/24
socaliganbear said:
The AD does not do the paying. But a coach who inspires fans could leverage NIL.
Then hire Sam Bankman-Fried.
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In reply to SFCALBear72 • 2:51p, 4/7/24
SFCALBear72 said:
TheFiatLux said:
SFCALBear72 said:
"I am sure Charmin is in Cleveland, participating in NCAA Coaches meetings"

I'd much rather our coaches be at the tournament participating in actual games instead of coaches meetings... But that's just me...


Fyi. Cleveland is the site of the WBB Final Four starting tonight. Traditionally, WBB coaches hold their annual convention at the Final Four. Good time to talk to other coaches about future match-ups, etc. For Charmin, she'll be able to connect with her new ACC colleagues.

So, technically Charmin is at the tournament and will be watching "actual games". Clear enough for you?
Let me try this again... I understand the machinations of the tournament... I would rather our coach be coaching games in the tournament than watching games... is that clear enough for you?
Look at you using your college thesaurus.

Wouldn't we all. I support this team every way possible. I too have higher expectations but also understand the process and what might impede it. Onward and upward.
you supported mark fox. i'm not sure "high expectations" means what you think it means.
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In reply to oskioski • 3:37p, 4/7/24
oskioski said:
SFCALBear72 said:
TheFiatLux said:
SFCALBear72 said:
"I am sure Charmin is in Cleveland, participating in NCAA Coaches meetings"

I'd much rather our coaches be at the tournament participating in actual games instead of coaches meetings... But that's just me...


Fyi. Cleveland is the site of the WBB Final Four starting tonight. Traditionally, WBB coaches hold their annual convention at the Final Four. Good time to talk to other coaches about future match-ups, etc. For Charmin, she'll be able to connect with her new ACC colleagues.

So, technically Charmin is at the tournament and will be watching "actual games". Clear enough for you?
Let me try this again... I understand the machinations of the tournament... I would rather our coach be coaching games in the tournament than watching games... is that clear enough for you?
Look at you using your college thesaurus.

Wouldn't we all. I support this team every way possible. I too have higher expectations but also understand the process and what might impede it. Onward and upward.
you supported mark fox. i'm not sure "high expectations" means what you think it means.
I didn't. Didn't renew my season tickets after Wyking Jones.
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4:24p, 4/7/24
The NCAA is signing a new television contract for both the NCAA men's and women's basketball tournaments. According to NCAA President Charlie Baker, there will be enough money in this contract to make specific financial reward payments to all 68 teams in each tournament. So to survive and compete financially, you will have to make these tournaments. I am certain that our AD was smart enough to put such expectations and requirements in each of his new basketball coach contract extensions.
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8:57a, 4/8/24

I am glad Charmin got the extension. However, I do think the length is more than what was needed. I would have been OK with 3 years.
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7:49p, 4/9/24
well, now we know why the extension. Stanford needs a new head coach, and Charmin played there and coached with Tara. Knowlton was worried Charmin would take the Stanford job.

[I'm not serious]
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In reply to ncbears • 8:07p, 4/9/24
ncbears said:
well, now we know why the extension. Stanford needs a new head coach, and Charmin played there and coached with Tara. Knowlton was worried Charmin would take the Stanford job.

[I'm not serious]
There is an opening now.
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In reply to Bobodeluxe • 8:21p, 4/9/24
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ncbears said:
well, now we know why the extension. Stanford needs a new head coach, and Charmin played there and coached with Tara. Knowlton was worried Charmin would take the Stanford job.

[I'm not serious]
There is an opening now.
Yes, I know. hence the "needs a new head coach"....
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In reply to TomBear • 7:28a, 4/10/24
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I am glad Charmin got the extension. However, I do think the length is more than what was needed. I would have been OK with 3 years.
Your post is too logical and civilized. You may not last very long here if you continue to state things like this.
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8:46a, 4/10/24
She had two more to go. Jimmy added a three year extension. Now she has five.

It's just words on paper. Doesn't matter in the modern world.
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10:19a, 4/10/24
Great news with the appointment of Rich Lyons as the new Chancellor. Probably explains why Knowlton had to hand out the last of his unearned contract extensions before Carol Christ goes out the door.
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In reply to annarborbear • 12:00p, 4/10/24
annarborbear said:
Great news with the appointment of Rich Lyons as the new Chancellor. Probably explains why Knowlton had to hand out the last of his unearned contract extensions before Carol Christ goes out the door.
thanks. looked up the name..
https://news.berkeley.edu/2024/04/10/rich-lyons-longtime-campus-business-innovation-leader-will-be-uc-berkeley-s-next-chancellor
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9:26p, 4/12/24
I agree with annarborbear.

The worst part of this is that Knowlton will be fired soon. We could have waited for a new AD, who would have certainly found us a WBB better than Coach Smith.
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In reply to TheDuke!!! • 7:19a, 4/14/24
TheDuke!!! said:
I agree with annarborbear.

The worst part of this is that Knowlton will be fired soon. We could have waited for a new AD, who would have certainly found us a WBB better than Coach Smith.


What specifically shows that Knowlton will be fired soon? Do you have inside info on the swimming investigation?
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In reply to mbBear • 1:55p, 4/14/24
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TheDuke!!! said:
I agree with annarborbear.

The worst part of this is that Knowlton will be fired soon. We could have waited for a new AD, who would have certainly found us a WBB better than Coach Smith.


What specifically shows that Knowlton will be fired soon? Do you have inside info on the swimming investigation?

It is an assumption based on following college sports for 40 years. New chancellors always hire new ADs, unless the AD is a legend.
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In reply to TheDuke!!! • 2:24p, 4/14/24
TheDuke!!! said:
mbBear said:
TheDuke!!! said:
I agree with annarborbear.

The worst part of this is that Knowlton will be fired soon. We could have waited for a new AD, who would have certainly found us a WBB better than Coach Smith.


What specifically shows that Knowlton will be fired soon? Do you have inside info on the swimming investigation?

It is an assumption based on following college sports for 40 years. New chancellors always hire new ADs, unless the AD is a legend.


Wow 40 years!!
Turned 67 today, so maybe not as impressed with that as some might be...
"Always" is a big word, but happy for you to be right. If it's within 6 months, I will be surprised (unless the swimming issue comes to fruition). I am skeptical that it's before the calendar turns to 2025, unless Lyons perceives that Wilcox is going to need to go and he has an AD in mind to make that firing and hiring.
Totally believe Lyons gives Knowlton a chance to respond to his direction. Your timeline implies that a change will be made by mid-Summer (if there would have been time to fire/hire a women's hoop coach.
Happy to make a friendly NIL wager on that...
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In reply to mbBear • 3:35p, 4/14/24
mbBear said:
TheDuke!!! said:
mbBear said:
TheDuke!!! said:
I agree with annarborbear.

The worst part of this is that Knowlton will be fired soon. We could have waited for a new AD, who would have certainly found us a WBB better than Coach Smith.


What specifically shows that Knowlton will be fired soon? Do you have inside info on the swimming investigation?

It is an assumption based on following college sports for 40 years. New chancellors always hire new ADs, unless the AD is a legend.


Wow 40 years!!
Turned 67 today, so maybe not as impressed with that as some might be...
"Always" is a big word, but happy for you to be right. If it's within 6 months, I will surprised (unless the swimming issue comes to fruition). I am skeptical that it's before the calendar turns to 2025, unless Lyons perceives that Wilcox is going to need to go and he has an AD in mind to make that firing and hiring.
Totally believe Lyons gives Knowlton a chance to respond to his direction. Your timeline implies that a change will be made by mid-Summer (if there would have been time to fire/hire a women's hoop coach.
Happy to make a friendly NIL wager on that...


Agreed.
My own opinion is that Knowlton is simply a "yes man". He wasn't one to challenge his boss and her agenda for IA. He has a new boss and I believe Lyons will be in a wait and see mode. Plus there's a large buyout. I just don't think it will happen as fast a people think it will.
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1:21a, 4/16/24
I would be shocked if there isn't a decision made within 6 months and an announcement made within 1-6 months of that.

I am reluctant to bet on this forum. The last time I made a bet (that Goff would beat out Kline), the losing party *NYCGOBEARS" welched on it.

That bet was for lunch at a Jewish deli the next time he was in Ann Arbor or I was in NYC. He couldn't even pay up a pastrami sandwich. No character. I have little doubt that you would be a man or woman of your word. But getting burned in the past left me with a very bad taste in my mouth -- instead of the brown mustard taste I was owed.
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7:21a, 4/16/24
I commend you Duke, betting is not healthy. It's good to see that you were able to go Cold Turkey.
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In reply to TheDuke!!! • 7:50a, 4/16/24
TheDuke!!! said:
I would be shocked if there isn't a decision made within 6 months and an announcement made within 1-6 months of that.

I am reluctant to bet on this forum. The last time I made a bet (that Goff would beat out Kline), the losing party *NYCGOBEARS" welched on it.

That bet was for lunch at a Jewish deli the next time he was in Ann Arbor or I was in NYC. He couldn't even pay up a pastrami sandwich. No character. I have little doubt that you would be a man or woman of your word. But getting burned in the past left me with a very bad taste in my mouth -- instead of the brown mustard taste I was owed.
WARNING THREAD DERAIL!!! (if it hasn't already happened)

I have bet on a Cal game one time in my life... 2014 Oregon game at Levi's. I was in Vegas so couldn't go to the game, and the over / under at the Cosmopolitan sports book was 82. That HAD to be wrong I thought. I went in and asked, and yep... So, every time I walked by - probably 30 times in the days leading up to the game -I looked at that and was tempted and finally I put down $1000 on the over. It was 38-28 at the end of the half, I was feeling good and when it went over fairly ealry in the 3rd quarter, I'm such a novice at betting I went up to collect, but couldn't until the game was official :-) Final score 59-41. One of the easiest over bets ever.

That was the last time I ever bet on Cal.
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In reply to TheDuke!!! • 8:01a, 4/16/24
TheDuke!!! said:
I would be shocked if there isn't a decision made within 6 months and an announcement made within 1-6 months of that.

I am reluctant to bet on this forum. The last time I made a bet (that Goff would beat out Kline), the losing party *NYCGOBEARS" welched on it.

That bet was for lunch at a Jewish deli the next time he was in Ann Arbor or I was in NYC. He couldn't even pay up a pastrami sandwich. No character. I have little doubt that you would be a man or woman of your word. But getting burned in the past left me with a very bad taste in my mouth -- instead of the brown mustard taste I was owed.
Well, it's why I suggested a bet through NIL....but that's fine...
Not sure if I am understanding your terms here: you think Lyons will have made a decision in his head, but we won't know about it until a time period (up to 6 months) after that? Maybe I am misreading your intent...
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In reply to mbBear • 8:49a, 4/16/24
mbBear said:
TheDuke!!! said:
I would be shocked if there isn't a decision made within 6 months and an announcement made within 1-6 months of that.

I am reluctant to bet on this forum. The last time I made a bet (that Goff would beat out Kline), the losing party *NYCGOBEARS" welched on it.

That bet was for lunch at a Jewish deli the next time he was in Ann Arbor or I was in NYC. He couldn't even pay up a pastrami sandwich. No character. I have little doubt that you would be a man or woman of your word. But getting burned in the past left me with a very bad taste in my mouth -- instead of the brown mustard taste I was owed.
Well, it's why I suggested a bet through NIL....but that's fine...
Not sure if I am understanding your terms here: you think Lyons will have made a decision in his head, but we won't know about it until a time period (up to 6 months) after that? Maybe I am misreading your intent...
My take is that the hiring of Lyons was a necessarily long process (deciding on a new chancellor). Lyons is very familiar with the situation in the athletic department. He's a Cal fan. He's seen Knowlton's hires. He's seen the results of the revenue sports (hoops financial performance is absolutely jaw dropping... all - ALL - due to Knowlton's mismanagement). He's seen our records. He knows the situation better than any possible chancellor. To be fair to Knowlton (as best I can) he's also probably seen Knowlton's fund-raising prowess (I guess).

So I am guessing Lyons definitely has in head where he sees the department going and its role in the University. It's hard for me to believe he thinks Knowlton is the best steward of what he wants accomplished. So he'll responsibly determine what the next best steps are (for instance, he has to come up with a compensation package for Sebasta...) and go from there.That takes some time.

GO BEARS!
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In reply to TheFiatLux • 12:04p, 4/16/24
TheFiatLux said:
mbBear said:
TheDuke!!! said:
I would be shocked if there isn't a decision made within 6 months and an announcement made within 1-6 months of that.

I am reluctant to bet on this forum. The last time I made a bet (that Goff would beat out Kline), the losing party *NYCGOBEARS" welched on it.

That bet was for lunch at a Jewish deli the next time he was in Ann Arbor or I was in NYC. He couldn't even pay up a pastrami sandwich. No character. I have little doubt that you would be a man or woman of your word. But getting burned in the past left me with a very bad taste in my mouth -- instead of the brown mustard taste I was owed.
Well, it's why I suggested a bet through NIL....but that's fine...
Not sure if I am understanding your terms here: you think Lyons will have made a decision in his head, but we won't know about it until a time period (up to 6 months) after that? Maybe I am misreading your intent...
My take is that the hiring of Lyons was a necessarily long process (deciding on a new chancellor). Lyons is very familiar with the situation in the athletic department. He's a Cal fan. He's seen Knowlton's hires. He's seen the results of the revenue sports (hoops financial performance is absolutely jaw dropping... all - ALL - due to Knowlton's mismanagement). He's seen our records. He knows the situation better than any possible chancellor. To be fair to Knowlton (as best I can) he's also probably seen Knowlton's fund-raising prowess (I guess).

So I am guessing Lyons definitely has in head where he sees the department going and its role in the University. It's hard for me to believe he thinks Knowlton is the best steward of what he wants accomplished. So he'll responsibly determine what the next best steps are (for instance, he has to come up with a compensation package for Sebasta...) and go from there.That takes some time.

GO BEARS!
I was the one speculating that it would take time to get rid of Knowlton, that the "fan view" is going to be different than the "manager view," that he would need Knowlton to not respond specifically to Lyons' direction and vision...
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In reply to RedlessWardrobe • 8:36p, 4/16/24
RedlessWardrobe said:
I commend you Duke, betting is not healthy. It's good to see that you were able to go Cold Turkey.
Sadly, I was left to eat cold turkey in my cold hotel room (instead of hot pastrami in a warm Jewish deli) after NYCGoBears proved not to be a man of his word.
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