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Bears Announce Future Games Against San Jose State, Wagner

January 30, 2025
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The California football team has agreed to future nonconference games in a home-and-home series with San Jose State, along with a single game in Berkeley against Wagner. The Golden Bears will host the Spartans on Sept. 9, 2028, and travel to San Jose on Sept. 13, 2031. Cal is set to face the Seahawks on Sept. 19, 2026.
 
Cal is 29-6 overall against San Jose State and it will be the first tilt between the Bay Area squads since 1996, a 45-25 victory for the Bears in the season opener. Cal has won the last nine matchups and has outscored the Spartans 1084-514 in the all-time series. 
 
It will be the first-ever contest on the football field between Cal and Wagner, which plays in the Northeast Conference of the Football Championship Subdivision. The Bears' other nonconference games in 2026 are vs. UCLA (Sept. 5), at BYU (Sept. 12) and vs. UNLV (Oct. 3)

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Bears Announce Future Games Against San Jose State, Wagner

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falseintellect
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Lots of teams schedule this way to bolster wins. Most do it so they have a better chance at playoffs, Cal does it so Wilcox can hit his 5-6 wins and keep his seat cool.
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Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program


Maybe Knowlton didn't get his act together and line up an FCS team far enough in advance, and all the western FCS teams had already signed up for a 2026 money game.

Better learn from that mistake quickly, before all those western teams become unavailable to play at CMS in 2027 as well.
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Give me Grambling
75bear
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socaliganbear said:

Give me gambling.
You already have FanDuel.
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Presbyterian
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Wagner but not Minot State? I see how it is.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Wagner but not Minot State? I see how it is.
I would even be fine with Idaho State
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Maybe UC Davis, Sac State, Montana, Montana State, etc are not "patsy" enough? Wagner was one of the worst teams in the lower ranks of FCS Northeast Conference.

When was the last time we played San Jose State in San Jose?
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calumnus said:

Maybe UC Davis, Sac State, Montana, Montana State, etc are not "patsy" enough? Wagner was one of the worst teams in the lower ranks of FCS Northeast Conference.

When was the last time we played San Jose State in San Jose?
Of course, San Jose State is not a FCS team. Sac State and Davis have been discussed as moving up to FBS in the future and both have beaten Stanford and other FBS schools.
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Ha
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Chabbear said:

calumnus said:

Maybe UC Davis, Sac State, Montana, Montana State, etc are not "patsy" enough? Wagner was one of the worst teams in the lower ranks of FCS Northeast Conference.

When was the last time we played San Jose State in San Jose?
Of course, San Jose State is not a FCS team. Sac State and Davis have been discussed as moving up to FBS in the future and both have beaten Stanford and other FBS schools.


The announcement at the beginning of the thread is both that we are playing FCS Wagner AND we have scheduled a home and home with San Jose State.
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MinotStateBeav said:

Wagner but not Minot State? I see how it is.
It doesn't do Cal much good schedule wise to rout a Division II team that's won 26 games since 2011.
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calumnus said:

Maybe UC Davis, Sac State, Montana, Montana State, etc are not "patsy" enough?
That entire list has been contenders in the FCS playoffs as of late and could give us a game (like UC Davis did last year), and the Dakota and Montana schools are also tough, which is why I am saying that FBS bottom feeders would be more preferable.
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Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.
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Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program
Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.
Here's the rub, Alabama and Florida State can schedule whoever they want and will still get 80-90%+ capacity crowds no matter the opponent, if we schedule FCS programs at least in our neck of the woods, we can put a few butts in the seats, and that is why I would not mind having San Jose State be a regular game.
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San Jose St., UC Davis, Sac St., and Nevada are the closest teams it seems outside of Furd.
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bear2034 said:


San Jose St., UC Davis, Sac St., and Nevada are the closest teams it seems outside of Furd.


If you count Nevada then add Cal Poly and Fresno State.
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Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.


No one is complaining about playing an FCS school per se, we have been doing it every year for decades now. The issue is the choice of FCS school: a very bad FCS team from the other side of the country that no one has ever heard of and likely has few alumni in the Bay Area and is unlikely to draw many Cal fans. I lived in New York, I even visited Staten Island, and I didn't know Wagner existed.

There are dozens of better FCS options and if the issue is we were late to the game and other schools beat us to the better options then that is still reason to hold the people on charge accountable.
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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

MinotStateBeav said:

Wagner but not Minot State? I see how it is.
It doesn't do Cal much good schedule wise to rout a Division II team that's won 26 games since 2011.
We'd win 27 games if we got a million dollar payday!
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calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.


No one is complaining about playing an FCS school per se, we have been doing it every year for decades now. The issue is the choice of FCS school: a very bad FCS team from the other side of the country that no one has ever heard of and likely has few alumni in the Bay Area and is unlikely to draw many Cal fans. I lived in New York, I even visited Staten Island, and I didn't know Wagner existed.

There are dozens of better FCS options and if the issue is we were late to the game and other schools beat us to the better options then that is still reason to hold the people on charge accountable.

The question here is whether more Cal fans would attend a game against Portland State than Wagner or Presbyterian. I doubt it.
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Cal88 said:

calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.


No one is complaining about playing an FCS school per se, we have been doing it every year for decades now. The issue is the choice of FCS school: a very bad FCS team from the other side of the country that no one has ever heard of and likely has few alumni in the Bay Area and is unlikely to draw many Cal fans. I lived in New York, I even visited Staten Island, and I didn't know Wagner existed.

There are dozens of better FCS options and if the issue is we were late to the game and other schools beat us to the better options then that is still reason to hold the people on charge accountable.

The question here is whether more Cal fans would attend a game against Portland State than Wagner or Presbyterian. I doubt it.
Charge $5.00/seat and I may go. Otherwise, forget it. Lots of other great things to do on a Saturday afternoon in September.
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HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

calumnus said:

Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.


No one is complaining about playing an FCS school per se, we have been doing it every year for decades now. The issue is the choice of FCS school: a very bad FCS team from the other side of the country that no one has ever heard of and likely has few alumni in the Bay Area and is unlikely to draw many Cal fans. I lived in New York, I even visited Staten Island, and I didn't know Wagner existed.

There are dozens of better FCS options and if the issue is we were late to the game and other schools beat us to the better options then that is still reason to hold the people on charge accountable.

The question here is whether more Cal fans would attend a game against Portland State than Wagner or Presbyterian. I doubt it.
Charge $5.00/seat and I may go. Otherwise, forget it. Lots of other great things to do on a Saturday afternoon in September.
Exactly! I always wondered why Cal doesn't do dynamic pricing for their tickets.
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Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.
There's a bodybag, and then there's a bodybag for a hamster. Per Wikipedia, Portland St has 1,951 faculty and Wagner has 1,932 students.
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HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.
There's a bodybag, and then there's a bodybag for a hamster. Per Wikipedia, Portland St has 1,951 faculty and Wagner has 1,932 students.


Exactly.

According to Sagarin, Wagner was the #251 team in the nation last year (out of 263 FBS and FCS teams).

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm
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lots of mocking the Wagner game here but the real travesty is SJS. Why are we scheduling a game at SJS?? It's not even like a 4 for 1 type situation. It's a 1 for 1, same as we do with e.g. Auburn.
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calumnus said:

HearstMining said:

Cal88 said:

Strykur said:

75bear said:

HearstMining said:

They could give free tickets, free beer, and still not get 30,000 attendees for this match-up.
Free lap dances would only get us to 25,000.
Cocaine, hookers, and Wagner maybe gets us 20K

Seriously why not just stick to in-state FCS or nearby programs (Cal Poly, Sac State, Eastern Washington, Portland State), if it was an HBCU that would be one thing but flying in FCS programs from New York makes no sense, better yet just schedule a scrub Sun Belt or Conference USA program

Would E Washington or Portland draw any more than Wagner? Don't think so.

Since we're not travelling there, it doesn't make much difference how far they came from, except maybe that they'll be a bit more tired...

This is the kind of game where Ott could pad his season stats, or where we could get to see and evaluate our QB depth and where the 3rd and 4th strings will get to play.

Scheduling Wagner will not even put us on an equal footing with programs like Alabama or Florida State that feature not one but TWO bodybag games per season.

Here's a look at some of the big name programs' schedules for 2025:
  • Florida State plays East Texas A&M and Kent State,
  • Bama gets Louisiana-Monroe and Eastern Illinois,
  • Clemson gets Troy and Furman,
  • LSU plays Southeastern Louisiana and Western Kentucky,
  • Oklahoma gets Kent State, Illinois State AND Temple
  • Auburn plays Ball State, South Alabama AND Mercer

So if you're complaining about Wagner being on our schedule, you are out of touch with the ongoing scheduling practices around the country.
There's a bodybag, and then there's a bodybag for a hamster. Per Wikipedia, Portland St has 1,951 faculty and Wagner has 1,932 students.


Exactly.

According to Sagarin, Wagner was the #251 team in the nation last year (out of 263 FBS and FCS teams).

http://sagarin.com/sports/cfsend.htm


Would scheduling #172 Portland St instead of #251 Wagner make much difference here??

Once again, this is out OOC schedule for '26:

Saturday
Sep. 5
UCLA BruinsCal Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA

Saturday
Sep. 12
at BYU CougarsLaVell Edwards Stadium, Provo, UT

Saturday
Sep. 19
Wagner SeahawksCal Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA

Saturday
Sep. 26
ACC game TBD

Saturday
Oct. 3
UNLV RebelsCal Memorial Stadium, Berkeley, CA
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boredom said:

lots of mocking the Wagner game here but the real travesty is SJS. Why are we scheduling a game at SJS?? It's not even like a 4 for 1 type situation. It's a 1 for 1, same as we do with e.g. Auburn.
Even 2 for 1, like what we did with SDSU and Nevada...
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I would imagine that SJSU has become a hot scheduling commodity for former P12 teams who want to keep their NorCal recruiting pipeline going.
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Maybe San Jose State will rebuild its seating capacity from its current Capacity18,203 (2021-present) to something approaching its old 30,000 by 2031?
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Chabbear said:

Maybe San Jose State will rebuild its seating capacity from its current Capacity18,203 (2021-present) to something approaching its old 30,000 by 2031?


Or, move the game to Levi's.
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boredom said:

lots of mocking the Wagner game here but the real travesty is SJS. Why are we scheduling a game at SJS?? It's not even like a 4 for 1 type situation. It's a 1 for 1, same as we do with e.g. Auburn.
SJS beat Stanfurd at SJS last season.
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Stanfurd sucks!!!

















B I G T I M E!
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boredom said:

lots of mocking the Wagner game here but the real travesty is SJS. Why are we scheduling a game at SJS?? It's not even like a 4 for 1 type situation. It's a 1 for 1, same as we do with e.g. Auburn.


By making it 1 for 1, Cal doesn't have to pay SJSU for the game in Berkeley. Buy games vs. G5 teams can be expensive. SJSU got $1.1 million to play at USC in 2023.
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BearSD said:

boredom said:

lots of mocking the Wagner game here but the real travesty is SJS. Why are we scheduling a game at SJS?? It's not even like a 4 for 1 type situation. It's a 1 for 1, same as we do with e.g. Auburn.


By making it 1 for 1, Cal doesn't have to pay SJSU for the game in Berkeley. Buy games vs. G5 teams can be expensive. SJSU got $1.1 million to play at USC in 2023.
But how much do we lose by not hosting a game? It can't be good for team morale to play at a high school-sized stadium.

I'd much rather see us fight through a semi-trap game at Fresno St and get to see family and friends living in that area.
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BearSD said:

boredom said:

lots of mocking the Wagner game here but the real travesty is SJS. Why are we scheduling a game at SJS?? It's not even like a 4 for 1 type situation. It's a 1 for 1, same as we do with e.g. Auburn.
By making it 1 for 1, Cal doesn't have to pay SJSU for the game in Berkeley. Buy games vs. G5 teams can be expensive. SJSU got $1.1 million to play at USC in 2023.
Also their stadium is tiny (18,203 capacity), I will be shocked if we play the game in San Jose rather than convince them to play the home game in Santa Clara.
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