It would be pretty funny if Rodgers left Green Bay and they finally decided to draft a WR in the first round.
Aaron Rodgers exiting the Pack?
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No it wouldn't.hanky1 said:
It would be pretty funny if Rodgers left Green Bay and they finally decided to draft a WR in the first round.
When the nation needed somebody to take a stand against Tim Tebow trying to get back into the limelight, this man courageously stepped up to the plate. We are not worthy. pic.twitter.com/925P2WDhLl
— Chris Williamson (@CWilliamson44) April 29, 2021
I asked an #NFL GM how he would expect the #Packers to respond to Aaron Rodgers’ discontent: “They dig their feet in and make him play or be a game-show host.”
— Ed Werder (@WerderEdESPN) April 29, 2021
#DraftDay want to apologize for the last tweet. Didn’t mean to offend anyone who tweets nonsense just to promote themself .... wait phone call coming in..... what area code is 920
— Jed York (@JedYork) April 29, 2021
He should sign with Santa Clara, an retire on opening day.
Rodgers and Elway and Peyton.
And Shailene lives in Boulder.
And Shailene lives in Boulder.
As far as destinations for Rodgers go...Denver makes a lot of sense. 🤠 pic.twitter.com/0DRpbDdms9
— Mina Kimes (@minakimes) April 30, 2021
Buzz is definitely building for Broncos making a move for Aaron Rodgers. G.M. George Paton witnessed what Aaron can do while in Minnesota. Coach Vic Fangio witnessed it while in Chicago.
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 29, 2021
Report: Packers "open to the reality" of trading Rodgers, with Broncos most likely partner. https://t.co/Rv0kgq6MeG
— ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) April 29, 2021
Jerry Jeudy gotta be in a great mood tonight with the possibility of Aaron Rodgers being his QB.
— Aaron Suttles (@AaronSuttles) April 30, 2021
Beautiful day in Denver!
— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) March 1, 2011
He was going pro no matter the situation with the teams in the NFL. As I said, Tedford was telling alums before the season started to enjoy it because he was going pro.WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Once he decided to go pro, and then the 49ers had the #1 pick, and Rodgers stock had skyrocketed, yes he hoped and expected the 49ers were going to take him. But his decision to go pro was not based on the 49ers. There is no way he could assume before the season started that the 49ers would get the #1 pick even if he assumed they would suck and they would need a QB. They were 7-9 the year before. No player is deciding BEFORE football season based a prediction of draft order.
Also, while he was on scouts' radar and was getting attention, he was not assumed to be one of the two best quarterbacks in the draft and go #1 before the 2004 season started. There was also good reason to think that Matt Leinart would go pro and he had a lot of publicity.
He and Tedford were confident that he would have a good season and that he would be ready to go and that is why Tedford said he expected him to go pro. There was no reason to believe he would be going to the 49ers. It just wasn't part of his decision. Yes, he was mad about it, but it wasn't part of the decision.
OaktownBear said:Tedford was telling everyone before the season started that Rodgers was going pro.71Bear said:Rodgers is not stupid and anyone who thinks he can predict the draft is an idiot (unless their name is Lawrence). I do not believe for a second what you wrote is true.WalterSobchak said:Yeah but AR didn't leave early for 21 other teams. He left early because he was the clear #1 QB available and his childhood team had the #1 pick.71Bear said:What about the other 21 teams that passed on him? Heck, Dallas passed twice.Bearly Clad said:
Maybe an unpopular opinion around here but if the 49ers want Rodgers they should have drafted him in '05. They don't deserve him, I mean it's debatable whether the Packers do either but still...
People always forget that SF was not the only team to make a big mistake. 2/3 of the league did, including the Oakland Raiders.
Heck, even Manning was not a sure thing to be #1.
This is correct
okaydo said:Beautiful day in Denver!
— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) March 1, 2011
.@markschlereth on @1043TheFan NOW says #Broncos are not taking a QB in the #NFLDraft because they are close to trading for Aaron Rodgers per his sources. "As close to a done deal as it can be."
— Cecil Lammey (@CecilLammey) April 29, 2021
ColoradoBear said:okaydo said:Beautiful day in Denver!
— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) March 1, 2011.@markschlereth on @1043TheFan NOW says #Broncos are not taking a QB in the #NFLDraft because they are close to trading for Aaron Rodgers per his sources. "As close to a done deal as it can be."
— Cecil Lammey (@CecilLammey) April 29, 2021
One random thing: Peyton still lives in Denver and is close to the Broncos organization. I wonder if that influences anything.
okaydo said:ColoradoBear said:okaydo said:Beautiful day in Denver!
— Aaron Rodgers (@AaronRodgers12) March 1, 2011.@markschlereth on @1043TheFan NOW says #Broncos are not taking a QB in the #NFLDraft because they are close to trading for Aaron Rodgers per his sources. "As close to a done deal as it can be."
— Cecil Lammey (@CecilLammey) April 29, 2021
One random thing: Peyton still lives in Denver and is close to the Broncos organization. I wonder if that influences anything.
I'd be disappointed if it is Denver.
my new wallpaper
Aaron Rodger I'm siding with you. Of the Packers last 10 rounders nine are on defense and one is Jordan Love to replace you. No support for a Hall of Famer.
— John Clayton (@JohnClaytonNFL) April 30, 2021
We’re not going to trade Aaron Rodgers, Gutekunst states.
— Bill Huber (@BillHuberSI) April 30, 2021
I don't think Rodgers wants to leave. I think he's just blowing smoke to motivate them to be more aggressive and go all in to help him out.
WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
hanky1 said:
I don't think Rodgers wants to leave. I think he's just blowing smoke to motivate them to be more aggressive and go all in to help him out.
I think they blew that when they went 10 years drafting defensive players, then last year traded picks to move up and draft his replacement. He has seen other teams (Tampa, LA) go all in on a win now strategy. The deciscion to kick in the NFC championship game was the last straw. I think his relationship with GB management and coaching staff is not good, so he wants a new situation.
And they just drafted a CB with their first round pick this evening!calumnus said:hanky1 said:
I don't think Rodgers wants to leave. I think he's just blowing smoke to motivate them to be more aggressive and go all in to help him out.
I think they blew that when they went 10 years drafting defensive players, then last year traded picks to move up and draft his replacement. He has seen other teams (Tampa, LA) go all in on a win now strategy. The deciscion to kick in the NFC championship game was the last straw. I think his relationship with GB management and coaching staff is not good, so he wants a new situation.
I mean it seems like that would help them win more than a backup QB:philbert said:And they just drafted a CB with their first round pick this evening!calumnus said:hanky1 said:
I don't think Rodgers wants to leave. I think he's just blowing smoke to motivate them to be more aggressive and go all in to help him out.
I think they blew that when they went 10 years drafting defensive players, then last year traded picks to move up and draft his replacement. He has seen other teams (Tampa, LA) go all in on a win now strategy. The deciscion to kick in the NFC championship game was the last straw. I think his relationship with GB management and coaching staff is not good, so he wants a new situation.
A day late, a buck short...
You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
Ha! I remember that vividly. Terrible decision to play man coverage. Reminded me of the Jets blitzing on the last play of the game vs the Raiders.
OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Lebron was coming to Cal" is one of the most untrue Cal urban legends ever. Before his junior year in HS, while playing with the Oakland Soldiers for a short while with his buddy Leon Powe he said something like "Cal might be a cool place for me to go." And for Cal fans, it took off from there...
Now, my FAVORITE untrue Cal urban legend -- and people are going to disagree, but they're wrong -- is that Russell White would've been a 1st round draft pick (and maybe even a good NFL player), if only he had turned pro after his junior year. Fact: The NFL Combine would've exposed the fact that he just wasn't enough of a "workout warrior" and he would've slipped. (Great player at Cal though and an inspiring Cal story!)
Big C said:OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Lebron was coming to Cal" is one of the most untrue Cal urban legends ever. Before his junior year in HS, while playing with the Oakland Soldiers for a short while with his buddy Leon Powe he said something like "Cal might be a cool place for me to go." And for Cal fans, it took off from there...
Now, my FAVORITE untrue Cal urban legend -- and people are going to disagree, but they're wrong -- is that Russell White would've been a 1st round draft pick (and maybe even a good NFL player), if only he had turned pro after his junior year. Fact: The NFL Combine would've exposed the fact that he just wasn't enough of a "workout warrior" and he would've slipped. (Great player at Cal though and an inspiring Cal story!)
He was on the Soldiers for more than a year and loved Berkeley. The games were at the RSF. He used to hang out on Telegraph and Durant. Most of his Soldier teammates ended up going to Cal. If the one-and-done rule was in place, odds are he goes to Cal, but with direct entry, he was going straight to the NBA, no question. He still visits campus when he is in the Bay Area.
Nowitski was closer, he had committed, but was ruled ineligible by the NCAA, Braun hired attorneys to fight it, then Nowitsky played in a game against US high school all stars......
OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Zero"? Really? You know that as a fact? Not even 1% was the chance to go #1 and his dream of playing for his lifelong favorite team? He held a grudge all these years because he didn't care what team he went to?
I probably should have said "had his heart set on" rather than "leave early for." It's not really my primary point anyway, which is that the Niners f'ed up more than the others bc they took a different QB. The other teams didn't think they needed a QB in that draft. Sure they were all wrong, but the Niners were MORE wrong bc they knew they needed a QB and took the wrong one. And that QB was actually pretty good, it's just that AR is waaaay better. So while AR was probably leaving regardless as virtually all Day 1 eligible guys do it's a pretty bold claim imo to say the prospect / expectation of going #1 to his favorite team had zero impact on him. Maybe it was just to make him feel more satisfied in his decision. Maybe it ended any second thoughts he might have had. Who knows. Who cares. **** it, let's go bowling.
calumnus said:Big C said:OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Lebron was coming to Cal" is one of the most untrue Cal urban legends ever. Before his junior year in HS, while playing with the Oakland Soldiers for a short while with his buddy Leon Powe he said something like "Cal might be a cool place for me to go." And for Cal fans, it took off from there...
Now, my FAVORITE untrue Cal urban legend -- and people are going to disagree, but they're wrong -- is that Russell White would've been a 1st round draft pick (and maybe even a good NFL player), if only he had turned pro after his junior year. Fact: The NFL Combine would've exposed the fact that he just wasn't enough of a "workout warrior" and he would've slipped. (Great player at Cal though and an inspiring Cal story!)
He was on the Soldiers for more than a year and loved Berkeley. The games were at the RSF. He used to hang out on Telegraph and Durant. Most of his Soldier teammates ended up going to Cal. If the one-and-done rule was in place, odds are he goes to Cal, but with direct entry, he was going straight to the NBA, no question. He still visits campus when he is in the Bay Area.
Nowitski was closer, he had committed, but was ruled ineligible by the NCAA, Braun hired attorneys to fight it, then Nowitsky played in a game against US high school all stars......
If you have the info, I would be curious how long Lebron was actually here in the East Bay playing for the Oakland Soldiers. If it was "more than a year", does that mean like three weeks in July of 1999 and two weeks in August of 2000? Because I strongly suspect it was something like that.* I'm pretty sure that by halfway through his junior year of high school, it was either going to be a MAJOR college program (not Cal), or straight to the NBA. By then, he had become sort of a big deal. Like Jason Kidd was here in high school, except greater than that... by multiples.
* Just as an example, on his Wikipedia page it mentions him playing for the Northeast Ohio Shooting Stars (AAU team), but gives nary a mention to the Oakland Soldiers. My recollection (admittedly spotty) was that he met Powe at some sort of national camp and then was recruited to make a guest appearance or two out here with the Oakland Soldiers. (By "guest appearance", I mean like a couple of weeks, something like that.)
Yes. Zero. The decision was to go pro or not. He was going pro. Independent of that decision, he wanted to go to the 49ers. He thought they were going to take him. Their reasons for not taking him were stupid. The fact that they didn't take him lead to the most public humiliation he ever suffered. He had a grudge.calumnus said:OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Zero"? Really? You know that as a fact? Not even 1% was the chance to go #1 and his dream of playing for his lifelong favorite team? He held a grudge all these years because he didn't care what team he went to?
I wanted to go to Cal from the time I was 5. Cal was irrelevant to my decision to go to college. I was going to college. Had Cal rejected me, I was going to college. I would have been disappointed. I may have been upset. I may have held a grudge. But I was going to college.
1. Lebron casually said in one interview with Leon Powe, who had committed to Cal, "Maybe I'd play with my buddy Leon at Cal" when asked where he would go if he didn't go pro. It wasn't a serious question or a serious answer because he already knew he was going pro. To say that a guy who was completely out of Cal's league would have gone to Cal if he actually engaged in a recruiting process he never engaged in is silly. If you want to believe he would have gone to Cal, be my guest, but there was no one and done rule so he was never coming. I am confident he would laugh at the notion. Feel free to cite any report that he has actually visited Cal in recent years. He has very occasionally visited the Soldiers and his coach. Yes, he did in fact have a close relationship with the Soldiers, one of two AAU teams he played for.calumnus said:Big C said:OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Lebron was coming to Cal" is one of the most untrue Cal urban legends ever. Before his junior year in HS, while playing with the Oakland Soldiers for a short while with his buddy Leon Powe he said something like "Cal might be a cool place for me to go." And for Cal fans, it took off from there...
Now, my FAVORITE untrue Cal urban legend -- and people are going to disagree, but they're wrong -- is that Russell White would've been a 1st round draft pick (and maybe even a good NFL player), if only he had turned pro after his junior year. Fact: The NFL Combine would've exposed the fact that he just wasn't enough of a "workout warrior" and he would've slipped. (Great player at Cal though and an inspiring Cal story!)
He was on the Soldiers for more than a year and loved Berkeley. The games were at the RSF. He used to hang out on Telegraph and Durant. Most of his Soldier teammates ended up going to Cal. If the one-and-done rule was in place, odds are he goes to Cal, but with direct entry, he was going straight to the NBA, no question. He still visits campus when he is in the Bay Area.
Nowitski was closer, he had committed, but was ruled ineligible by the NCAA, Braun hired attorneys to fight it, then Nowitsky played in a game against US high school all stars......
2. Nowitski was not committed - he had a couple other teams on the list. However, he probably was going to Cal. The NCAA probably was going to relent. That wasn't the problem. The problem was he played in that All Star game and the Mavericks saw him and made it clear they wanted him. He had no exposure before that game. He did briefly consider still going to college, but Braun dropped the issue because Nowitski decided he couldn't pass up going to the NBA.
He mostly played for the Akron Shooting Stars, but he was close with the Soldiers and did play a bunch for them. He was not living here for more than a year. He lived in Ohio. He travelled here for tournaments.Big C said:calumnus said:Big C said:OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Lebron was coming to Cal" is one of the most untrue Cal urban legends ever. Before his junior year in HS, while playing with the Oakland Soldiers for a short while with his buddy Leon Powe he said something like "Cal might be a cool place for me to go." And for Cal fans, it took off from there...
Now, my FAVORITE untrue Cal urban legend -- and people are going to disagree, but they're wrong -- is that Russell White would've been a 1st round draft pick (and maybe even a good NFL player), if only he had turned pro after his junior year. Fact: The NFL Combine would've exposed the fact that he just wasn't enough of a "workout warrior" and he would've slipped. (Great player at Cal though and an inspiring Cal story!)
He was on the Soldiers for more than a year and loved Berkeley. The games were at the RSF. He used to hang out on Telegraph and Durant. Most of his Soldier teammates ended up going to Cal. If the one-and-done rule was in place, odds are he goes to Cal, but with direct entry, he was going straight to the NBA, no question. He still visits campus when he is in the Bay Area.
Nowitski was closer, he had committed, but was ruled ineligible by the NCAA, Braun hired attorneys to fight it, then Nowitsky played in a game against US high school all stars......
If you have the info, I would be curious how long Lebron was actually here in the East Bay playing for the Oakland Soldiers. If it was "more than a year", does that mean like three weeks in July of 1999 and two weeks in August of 2000? Because I strongly suspect it was something like that.* I'm pretty sure that by halfway through his junior year of high school, it was either going to be a MAJOR college program (not Cal), or straight to the NBA. By then, he had become sort of a big deal. Like Jason Kidd was here in high school, except greater than that... by multiples.
* Just as an example, on his Wikipedia page it mentions him playing for the Northeast Ohio Shooting Stars (AAU team), but gives nary a mention to the Oakland Soldiers. My recollection (admittedly spotty) was that he met Powe at some sort of national camp and then was recruited to make a guest appearance or two out here with the Oakland Soldiers. (By "guest appearance", I mean like a couple of weeks, something like that.)
Here is an article which I'd note that James did not contribute to that takes a nostalgic look and tells you how it happened..
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/s/the-weekend-bay-area-trip-that-helped-make-lebron-james-a-star-061242534.html
Aaaaaand @betonline_ag has set odds for Aaron Rodgers' next team if traded:
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) May 1, 2021
Broncos
2/1
Raiders
6/1
Dolphins
10/1
Browns
12/1
Saints
12/1
Panthers
14/1
Washington Football Team
14/1
(A reunion with Mike McCarthy with the Cowboys is at 33/1. Use this information as you wish.) pic.twitter.com/PcIFNyIP96
B.A. Bearacus said:Aaaaaand @betonline_ag has set odds for Aaron Rodgers' next team if traded:
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) May 1, 2021
Broncos
2/1
Raiders
6/1
Dolphins
10/1
Browns
12/1
Saints
12/1
Panthers
14/1
Washington Football Team
14/1
(A reunion with Mike McCarthy with the Cowboys is at 33/1. Use this information as you wish.) pic.twitter.com/PcIFNyIP96
Vegas also moved the broncos odds to win the SB from 60:1 to 15:1, which crazy for something that may or may not happen.
Big C said:calumnus said:Big C said:OaktownBear said:You are reading a million times more into "we" referring to team than you should. He was speaking for the team in a postgame interview, not for his pro prospects. As opposed to Tedford specifically saying he was gone in alum meetings. He was gone. Everyone who wasn't delusional knew it. And Marshawn was gone despite Boston Market. Kidd said things heavily implying he was coming back the day he said he was gone and he hadn't been to class all semester so he couldn't come back if he wanted to. Kidd was gone. And Lebron wasn't ever ever ever coming to Cal. Maybe Dirk.calumnus said:WalterSobchak said:
Sure it's possible, maybe even likely that he leaves early even if the Niners are great and set at QB, but as BC points out that's not how things were. Don't you think it's possible AR knew the Niners were going to be bad an need a QB before and during the season? And given his fondness for the team don't you think that might have provided some extra incentive? Why do you think he made his infamous draft night statement, because he didn't care about the Niners ans wasn't hoping/expecting them to pick him? Really hard to understand your take here given what actually happened and how it did.
Exactly. After the Holiday Bowl loss:
Cal QB Aaron Rodgers: "This is a frustrating loss, but we just didn't execute and make plays. We came up a little short. I thought we handled the pressure pretty good, I just wasn't at my best today. Every loss is tough, but I don't know think this puts a damper on things. A lot of good things happened this year that hasn't happened at Cal in awhile and I hope our fans stick with us. We'll come back next season on a mission."
https://calbears.com/news/2004/12/30/207747948
It was only a week later, when it looked like he would be the first QB taken and most likely by the 49ers fulfilling his lifelong dream, that he declared saying "The opportunity was too good to pass up."
Of course nothing was guaranteed. Smith ended up declaring early too. Leinert end up staying for his senior year at USC.
His decision to go had ZERO to do with the 49ers.
"Lebron was coming to Cal" is one of the most untrue Cal urban legends ever. Before his junior year in HS, while playing with the Oakland Soldiers for a short while with his buddy Leon Powe he said something like "Cal might be a cool place for me to go." And for Cal fans, it took off from there...
Now, my FAVORITE untrue Cal urban legend -- and people are going to disagree, but they're wrong -- is that Russell White would've been a 1st round draft pick (and maybe even a good NFL player), if only he had turned pro after his junior year. Fact: The NFL Combine would've exposed the fact that he just wasn't enough of a "workout warrior" and he would've slipped. (Great player at Cal though and an inspiring Cal story!)
He was on the Soldiers for more than a year and loved Berkeley. The games were at the RSF. He used to hang out on Telegraph and Durant. Most of his Soldier teammates ended up going to Cal. If the one-and-done rule was in place, odds are he goes to Cal, but with direct entry, he was going straight to the NBA, no question. He still visits campus when he is in the Bay Area.
Nowitski was closer, he had committed, but was ruled ineligible by the NCAA, Braun hired attorneys to fight it, then Nowitsky played in a game against US high school all stars......
If you have the info, I would be curious how long Lebron was actually here in the East Bay playing for the Oakland Soldiers. If it was "more than a year", does that mean like three weeks in July of 1999 and two weeks in August of 2000? Because I strongly suspect it was something like that.* I'm pretty sure that by halfway through his junior year of high school, it was either going to be a MAJOR college program (not Cal), or straight to the NBA. By then, he had become sort of a big deal. Like Jason Kidd was here in high school, except greater than that... by multiples.
* Just as an example, on his Wikipedia page it mentions him playing for the Northeast Ohio Shooting Stars (AAU team), but gives nary a mention to the Oakland Soldiers. My recollection (admittedly spotty) was that he met Powe at some sort of national camp and then was recruited to make a guest appearance or two out here with the Oakland Soldiers. (By "guest appearance", I mean like a couple of weeks, something like that.)
LeBron's high school coach is one of Braun's best friends and was Braun's first assistant at Eastern Michigan. Because of that connection Braun was recruiting LeBron before anyone, when LeBron was a skinny PG.
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2005/12/03/how-lebron-could-have-been-golden-bear/
LeBron spent three summers with the Soldiers starting at age 15.
Look at LeBron's Soldiers teams: LeBron, Powe, Ubaka, Kately, McGuire.....the intent to all play together at Cal was real. LeBron just blew up and was headed to the NBA. Powe would have too if he hadnt blown out his knee his senior year. On the other hand, if the one and done rule was in effect...