Cal Strong would understand if Knowlton wants to pick the next coach himself. Who wouldn't want the chance to make such a strong decision?

But if he like so many ADs and no want to do this, Cal Strong dead set against hiring a search firm. All search firms do is look at Cal, decide we have a ceiling of slightly below average, and then go find us a slightly below average coach. There no reason to hire a firm.

Cal Strong think it better to assemble a committee of 2-4 individuals, with an experienced Bear to chair the committee and break ties.

For the Chair, Cal Strong think it should either be:

• Steve Gladstone -- loves Cal. Made our last strong hire.
• Tom Holmoe -- loves Cal. Terrible Coach, but outstanding Athletic Director. Has history of picking strong coaches.

For committee members, Knowlton should select 2-4 strong individuals from this list:

• Ron Rivera: Loves Cal. Succesful coach.
• Jeff Tedford: Knows everyone in coaching world. His former OC/protege at Fresno is very strong head coach.
• Desean Jackson: We need a coach who can pull in blue chip talent. Desean knows what this means and what this looks like.
• Keenan Allen: Same reason as Desean.
• Kyle Boller: Big time recruit. He knows the difference between a strong Cal HC and a weak Cal HC. Presumably he has time on his hands.
• Mike Pawlawski: Strong choice.
• Tony Gonzales: Socaltownie thought of this one. Very strong pick. Should have had him in there from the start.

Cal Strong! said:

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Cal Strong would understand if Knowlton wants to pick the next coach himself. Who wouldn't want the chance to make such a strong decision?

But if he like so many ADs and no want to do this, Cal Strong dead set against hiring a search firm. All search firms do is look at Cal, decide we have a ceiling of slightly below average, and then go find us a slightly below average coach. There no reason to hire a firm.

Cal Strong think it better to assemble a committee of 2-4 individuals, with an experienced Bear to chair the committee and break ties.

For the Chair, Cal Strong think it should either be:

• Steve Gladstone -- loves Cal. Made our last strong hire.
• Tom Holmoe -- loves Cal. Terrible Coach, but outstanding Athletic Director. Has history of picking strong coaches.

For committee members, Knowlton should select 2-4 strong individuals from this list:

• Ron Rivera: Loves Cal. Succesful coach.
• Jeff Tedford: Knows everyone in coaching world. His former OC/protege at Fresno is very strong head coach.
• Desean Jackson: We need a coach who can pull in blue chip talent. Desean knows what this means and what this looks like.
• Keenan Allen: Same reason as Desean.
• Kyle Boller: Big time recruit. He knows the difference between a strong Cal HC and a weak Cal HC. Presumably he has time on his hands.
• Mike Pawlawski: Strong choice.

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

Let's face it, unless Knowlton reads this board or listens to people that tells him he can't pick coaches, we are hosed. He'll go the usual route and hire some politically correct coach who says and does all the right things and we will be back here in 5 years. Has Knowlton said one thing publicly about this game or the basketball abortion? And even saying things isn't the same as doing something but it shows that he's not a boat rocker. Heck, he got rewarded with a new contract for his work. We are hosed.

Northside91 said:

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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Cal Strong take Northside91's compliment for proposing a committee system as implied. He thank Northside91 for implying such a strong compliment.

But Northside91 WEAK at remembering key details:

Jeff Tedford and Tom Holmoe both still love Cal and want to see our football program succeed.

JT is the most successful head coach we have had since Pappy Waldorf, who retired in 1956 and died in 1981. Since Waldorf no longer available, why on earth wouldn't we consult Jeff Tedford?

Tom Holmoe has already selected two excellent football coaches . . . including one who will likely have his team in the top 10 once next weeks rankings come out. Holmoe has said how much he loves Cal and how he will be on the sidelines cheering our team on when we eventually make a Rose Bowl. Why wouldn't we want someone chairing the committee who has had lots of past success selecting head coaches who loves Cal?

Cam Jordan is great player. But he no blue chip HS recruit. And he had a reputation as not working very hard in his early years at Cal. What Desean and Keenan bring to the table is that they were 5-star blue chip recruits who turned down stardom #1 schools like USC and Alabama to come to Cal. That is an important perspective when selecting a new coach who can attract similar talent. Kyle brings experience not only as a #1 recruit at his position, but also with both a successful and an unsuccessful HC at Cal. So he should be able to tell the difference in the interview process.

Cal Strong! said:

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Northside91 said:

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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Cal Strong take Northside91's compliment for proposing a committee system as implied. He thank Northside91 for implying such a strong compliment.

But Northside91 WEAK at remembering key details:

Jeff Tedford and Tom Holmoe both still love Cal and want to see our football program succeed.

JT is the most successful head coach we have had since Pappy Waldorf, who retired in 1956 and died in 1981. Since Waldorf no longer available, why on earth wouldn't we consult Jeff Tedford?

Tom Holmoe has selected two excellent football coaches . . . including one who will likely have his team in the top 10 once next weeks rankings come out. Holmoe has said how much he loves Cal and how he will be on the sidelines cheering our team on when we eventually make a Rose Bowl. Why wouldn't we want someone with lots of past success selecting head coaches who loves Cal chairing the committee?

Cam Jordan is great player. But he no blue chip HS recruit. And he had a reputation as not working very hard in his early years at Cal. What Desean and Keenan bring to the table is that they were 5-star blue chip recruits who turned down stardom #1 schools like USC and Alabama to come to Cal. That is an important perspective when selecting a new coach who can attract similar talent. Kyle brings experience not only as a #1 recruit at his position, but also with both a successful and an unsuccessful HC at Cal. So he should be able to tell the difference in the interview process.

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There's a big difference between what people say and what they believe in their heart of hearts. JT and TH may profess positive feelings for Cal, but they both left under very negative circumstances. I'm a big believer in avoiding baggage. Both had big time on and off-field issues at Cal. Pass.

As for Cam, people grow up. 32 year old Cam is probably a much different person than 19 year old Cam. From what I've seen/heard, he's articulate and does some good things in his free time. On field success, and playing under good coaches? Check. Animus against Cal? I don't see it. I'd prefer his maturity on a selection committee over the prima donna stylings of DJ. Just my $.02.

Again, this is purely an academic discussion. I predict zero changes in the near term. If anything should happen, it'll be a cluster.

Cal Strong! said:

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Northside91 said:

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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Cal Strong take Northside91's compliment for proposing a committee system as implied. He thank Northside91 for implying such a strong compliment.

But Northside91 WEAK at remembering key details:

Jeff Tedford and Tom Holmoe both still love Cal and want to see our football program succeed.

JT is the most successful head coach we have had since Pappy Waldorf, who retired in 1956 and died in 1981. Since Waldorf no longer available, why on earth wouldn't we consult Jeff Tedford?

Tom Holmoe has already selected two excellent football coaches . . . including one who will likely have his team in the top 10 once next weeks rankings come out. Holmoe has said how much he loves Cal and how he will be on the sidelines cheering our team on when we eventually make a Rose Bowl. Why wouldn't we want someone chairing the committee who has had lots of past success selecting head coaches who loves Cal?

Cam Jordan is great player. But he no blue chip HS recruit. And he had a reputation as not working very hard in his early years at Cal. What Desean and Keenan bring to the table is that they were 5-star blue chip recruits who turned down stardom #1 schools like USC and Alabama to come to Cal. That is an important perspective when selecting a new coach who can attract similar talent. Kyle brings experience not only as a #1 recruit at his position, but also with both a successful and an unsuccessful HC at Cal. So he should be able to tell the difference in the interview process.

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If the last 5 years don't demonstrate the importance of an experienced hc, I don't know what would. The SJ guy, the Fresno guy, the Nevada guy, the SD guy, and more, all shoud be in the final list. Other than Rivera, those other names are ridiculous - hs kids are not that stupid to think that someone with little to no coaching experience can build a p5 program.

Rushinbear said:

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If the last 5 years don't demonstrate the importance of an experienced hc, I don't know what would. The SJ guy, the Fresno guy, the Nevada guy, the SD guy, and more, all shoud be in the final list. Other than Rivera, those other names are ridiculous - hs kids are not that stupid to think that someone with little to no coaching experience can build a p5 program.

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Rushinbear WEAK at reading. No one suggesting those guys coach our team. All of those guys have decades of experience around professional football coaches. None of them lack experience when it comes to determining a good coach from a bad one.

Northside91 said:

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There's a big difference between what people say and what they believe in their heart of hearts. JT and TH may profess positive feelings for Cal, but they both left under very negative circumstances.

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No one forced Tom Holmoe to say how much he wants Cal in a Rose Bowl. No one forced Jeff Tedford to drive back to Cal to attend a Wilcox camp or to attend a Cal practice. There no reason to doubt their sincerity.

Why on earth wouldn't we want someone who loves Cal and who has more experience hiring successful head coaches at the college level than any Cal Athletic director in history leading the committee?

How about we add Sonny Dikes to the committee and do the exact opposite of what he says? If we have such strong opinions of people's directional aptitude for selecting our next coach having somebody who is 100% right or wrong gets you the same answer.

Northside91 said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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Cal Strong would understand if Knowlton wants to pick the next coach himself. Who wouldn't want the chance to make such a strong decision?

But if he like so many ADs and no want to do this, Cal Strong dead set against hiring a search firm. All search firms do is look at Cal, decide we have a ceiling of slightly below average, and then go find us a slightly below average coach. There no reason to hire a firm.

Cal Strong think it better to assemble a committee of 2-4 individuals, with an experienced Bear to chair the committee and break ties.

For the Chair, Cal Strong think it should either be:

• Steve Gladstone -- loves Cal. Made our last strong hire.
• Tom Holmoe -- loves Cal. Terrible Coach, but outstanding Athletic Director. Has history of picking strong coaches.

For committee members, Knowlton should select 2-4 strong individuals from this list:

• Ron Rivera: Loves Cal. Succesful coach.
• Jeff Tedford: Knows everyone in coaching world. His former OC/protege at Fresno is very strong head coach.
• Desean Jackson: We need a coach who can pull in blue chip talent. Desean knows what this means and what this looks like.
• Keenan Allen: Same reason as Desean.
• Kyle Boller: Big time recruit. He knows the difference between a strong Cal HC and a weak Cal HC. Presumably he has time on his hands.
• Mike Pawlawski: Strong choice.

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Gladstone probably a good choice but old.

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Age isn't an issue there. He's still winning national championships.

Putting aside a lot of the other issues with this list, the Athletic Director of a D-1 school can't be involved in picking the coach for another one. Neither side would allow it, nor should they.

Tony Gonzales should be on any search committee. Of course there will not be one. Jk will hire a search firm and we will get the equivalent of mark fox.

socaltownie said:

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Tony Gonzales should be on any search committee. Of course there will not be one. Jk will hire a search firm and we will get the equivalent of mark fox.

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This Strong pick. Cal Strong should have had him in the first list. Correcting now.

socaltownie posting STRONG today!!! Way to STRONG like Cal and Cal Strong . . . not weak like Wilcox and search committees.

Cal Strong! said:

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socaltownie said:

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Tony Gonzales should be on any search committee. Of course there will not be one. Jk will hire a search firm and we will get the equivalent of mark fox.

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This Strong pick. Cal Strong should have had him in the first list. Correcting now.

socaltownie posting STRONG today!!! Way to STRONG like Cal and Cal Strong . . . not weak like Wilcox and search committees.

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Your dedication to this bit is… something.

maxer said:

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Putting aside a lot of the other issues with this list, the Athletic Director of a D-1 school can't be involved in picking the coach for another one. Neither side would allow it, nor should they.

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He could with permission from his university president. Executives serve on boards and search committees (as external members) of other firms all the time. Cal Strong see no difference between this and when a Cal Ph.D. candidate has a professor from another university with particular expertise sit on his/her dissertation committee. It happens all the time.

There no conflict of interest in this case. BYU can only hire a Mormon HC anyway, and they are all set in terms of a HC for quite a while.

I only wish USC would ask Knowlton to sit on their search committee!

I would have no problem if Tedford were involved in some capacity with selecting a candidate for a potential opening. I would have no problem if Tedford were hired as a consultant to help Wilcox should he stay for the upcoming year. Say what you will about him. He was a good football coach, dealt with a ton of **** at Cal, knows the industry very well. He had a winning record at Cal in 9 of 11 years, 2 of 3 at Fresno. Did a solid job turning both around quickly.

Name another recent Cal coach that had that level of success?

Frankly, if I am candidate for the Cal job, I'd call Tedford.

Cal Strong! said:

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Northside91 said:

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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Cal Strong take Northside91's compliment for proposing a committee system as implied. He thank Northside91 for implying such a strong compliment.

But Northside91 WEAK at remembering key details:

Jeff Tedford and Tom Holmoe both still love Cal and want to see our football program succeed.

JT is the most successful head coach we have had since Pappy Waldorf, who retired in 1956 and died in 1981. Since Waldorf no longer available, why on earth wouldn't we consult Jeff Tedford?

Tom Holmoe has already selected two excellent football coaches . . . including one who will likely have his team in the top 10 once next weeks rankings come out. Holmoe has said how much he loves Cal and how he will be on the sidelines cheering our team on when we eventually make a Rose Bowl. Why wouldn't we want someone chairing the committee who has had lots of past success selecting head coaches who loves Cal?

Cam Jordan is great player. But he no blue chip HS recruit. And he had a reputation as not working very hard in his early years at Cal. What Desean and Keenan bring to the table is that they were 5-star blue chip recruits who turned down stardom #1 schools like USC and Alabama to come to Cal. That is an important perspective when selecting a new coach who can attract similar talent. Kyle brings experience not only as a #1 recruit at his position, but also with both a successful and an unsuccessful HC at Cal. So he should be able to tell the difference in the interview process.

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I thought Holmoe was still AD at BYU. Did he retire?

Cal Strong! said:

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maxer said:

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Putting aside a lot of the other issues with this list, the Athletic Director of a D-1 school can't be involved in picking the coach for another one. Neither side would allow it, nor should they.

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He could with permission from his university president. Executives serve on boards and search committees (as external members) of other firms all the time. Cal Strong see no difference between this and when a Cal Ph.D. candidate has a professor from another university with particular expertise sit on his/her dissertation committee. It happens all the time.

There no conflict of interest in this case. BYU can only hire a Mormon HC anyway, and they are all set in terms of a HC for quite a while.

I only wish USC would ask Knowlton to sit on their search committee!

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It happens none of the time in college athletics. Zero times. That number will continue to be zero, as it's a direct conflict of interest.

heartofthebear said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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Northside91 said:

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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Cal Strong take Northside91's compliment for proposing a committee system as implied. He thank Northside91 for implying such a strong compliment.

But Northside91 WEAK at remembering key details:

Jeff Tedford and Tom Holmoe both still love Cal and want to see our football program succeed.

JT is the most successful head coach we have had since Pappy Waldorf, who retired in 1956 and died in 1981. Since Waldorf no longer available, why on earth wouldn't we consult Jeff Tedford?

Tom Holmoe has already selected two excellent football coaches . . . including one who will likely have his team in the top 10 once next weeks rankings come out. Holmoe has said how much he loves Cal and how he will be on the sidelines cheering our team on when we eventually make a Rose Bowl. Why wouldn't we want someone chairing the committee who has had lots of past success selecting head coaches who loves Cal?

Cam Jordan is great player. But he no blue chip HS recruit. And he had a reputation as not working very hard in his early years at Cal. What Desean and Keenan bring to the table is that they were 5-star blue chip recruits who turned down stardom #1 schools like USC and Alabama to come to Cal. That is an important perspective when selecting a new coach who can attract similar talent. Kyle brings experience not only as a #1 recruit at his position, but also with both a successful and an unsuccessful HC at Cal. So he should be able to tell the difference in the interview process.

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I thought Holmoe was still AD at BYU. Did he retire?

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No he's still the AD, which is why it's absurd.

Watch Knowlton bring the triple option with Troy Calhoun

Golden Bear fans, please welcome your new head football coach, Bill Callahan!

WavyBear said:

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Watch Knowlton bring the triple option with Troy Calhoun

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On the bright side, we'd be hiring a coach who at least would strive to make the Aed Forces bowl which seems to be our ceiling.

Northside91 said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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Cal Strong would understand if Knowlton wants to pick the next coach himself. Who wouldn't want the chance to make such a strong decision?

But if he like so many ADs and no want to do this, Cal Strong dead set against hiring a search firm. All search firms do is look at Cal, decide we have a ceiling of slightly below average, and then go find us a slightly below average coach. There no reason to hire a firm.

Cal Strong think it better to assemble a committee of 2-4 individuals, with an experienced Bear to chair the committee and break ties.

For the Chair, Cal Strong think it should either be:

• Steve Gladstone -- loves Cal. Made our last strong hire.
• Tom Holmoe -- loves Cal. Terrible Coach, but outstanding Athletic Director. Has history of picking strong coaches.

For committee members, Knowlton should select 2-4 strong individuals from this list:

• Ron Rivera: Loves Cal. Succesful coach.
• Jeff Tedford: Knows everyone in coaching world. His former OC/protege at Fresno is very strong head coach.
• Desean Jackson: We need a coach who can pull in blue chip talent. Desean knows what this means and what this looks like.
• Keenan Allen: Same reason as Desean.
• Kyle Boller: Big time recruit. He knows the difference between a strong Cal HC and a weak Cal HC. Presumably he has time on his hands.
• Mike Pawlawski: Strong choice.

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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On what do you base your conclusion that Jackson (and Boller) lacks (lack) intellect? You realize that Desean Jackson was math major at Cal and he made it through three years (or maybe 2.5?) years at Cal as a student in good standing, right? I was under the impression that the math courses at Cal are rather challenging for most students, let alone those who play varsity football. I'd be highly surprised if someone who "lacks intellect" could survive a semester, let alone five or six as a math major. But I'm sure you have evidence that Desean Jackson lacked intellect, right?

Also, did you really describe an intelligent black man as "articulate?" Really?!?! You do know that's very coded language (read, dog whistle), right?

If this board is any example of the Bears fandom, no wonder highly rated minority recruits are hesitant about coming to Cal.

If Sac State's season goes well, I wouldn't even bother with a selection committee and just offer Troy Taylor the job. I was impressed by Sac State when they came to Berkeley and there's no conceivable candidate who has a stronger connection to Cal.

Otherwise I like the idea of using a Cal-based selection committee, but similar to how Gladstone constituted the committee last time, I would use coaches rather than players. Off the top of my head I'd like Gladstone to chair (if interested; he already has a full time job), Tedford, Jack Clark and one selection from among the most successful of our current HCs. Rivera would be nice but I assume he'll be too busy until January and we should start this process in early December at the latest. Pawlawski is the only non-coach add that I'd consider.

What I definitely would not do is pay a chunk of change to some corporate firm to conduct the search.

01Bear said:

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Northside91 said:

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Cal Strong! said:

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Cal Strong would understand if Knowlton wants to pick the next coach himself. Who wouldn't want the chance to make such a strong decision?

But if he like so many ADs and no want to do this, Cal Strong dead set against hiring a search firm. All search firms do is look at Cal, decide we have a ceiling of slightly below average, and then go find us a slightly below average coach. There no reason to hire a firm.

Cal Strong think it better to assemble a committee of 2-4 individuals, with an experienced Bear to chair the committee and break ties.

For the Chair, Cal Strong think it should either be:

• Steve Gladstone -- loves Cal. Made our last strong hire.
• Tom Holmoe -- loves Cal. Terrible Coach, but outstanding Athletic Director. Has history of picking strong coaches.

For committee members, Knowlton should select 2-4 strong individuals from this list:

• Ron Rivera: Loves Cal. Succesful coach.
• Jeff Tedford: Knows everyone in coaching world. His former OC/protege at Fresno is very strong head coach.
• Desean Jackson: We need a coach who can pull in blue chip talent. Desean knows what this means and what this looks like.
• Keenan Allen: Same reason as Desean.
• Kyle Boller: Big time recruit. He knows the difference between a strong Cal HC and a weak Cal HC. Presumably he has time on his hands.
• Mike Pawlawski: Strong choice.

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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On what do you base your conclusion that Jackson (and Boller) lacks (lack) intellect? You realize that Desean Jackson was math major at Cal and he made it through three years (or maybe 2.5?) years at Cal as a student in good standing, right? I was under the impression that the math courses at Cal are rather challenging for most students, let alone those who play varsity football. I'd be highly surprised if someone who "lacks intellect" could survive a semester, let alone five or six as a math major. But I'm sure you have evidence that Desean Jackson lacked intellect, right?

Also, did you really describe an intelligent black man as "articulate?" Really?!?! You do know that's very coded language (read, dog whistle), right?

If this board is any example of the Bears fandom, no wonder highly rated minority recruits are hesitant about coming to Cal.

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Thinking of this sort is a major reason this country is being driven over a political and social cliff.

Yes, I referred to Cam Jordan as articulate in the same way I would refer to Andrew Luck as articulate and Brett Favre as inarticulate (in the extreme), and have many times before. Presentation skills are, or should be, valued and should not be racialized, as you're doing here to advance a tired and destructive agenda.

As for Jackson, I have no idea where your claims are coming from. I understood that he was a social science major (as if that matters), and that's how calbears.com lists him as of its 2013 update. Regardless, that has no bearing whatsoever on his suitability for a search committee, a matter that's debatable on many fronts and ultimately of no consequence.

Forget perceived dog whistles, talking points and codes and start thinking critically and on your own. Group think is doing you grave harm.

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Cal Strong would understand if Knowlton wants to pick the next coach himself. Who wouldn't want the chance to make such a strong decision?

But if he like so many ADs and no want to do this, Cal Strong dead set against hiring a search firm. All search firms do is look at Cal, decide we have a ceiling of slightly below average, and then go find us a slightly below average coach. There no reason to hire a firm.

Cal Strong think it better to assemble a committee of 2-4 individuals, with an experienced Bear to chair the committee and break ties.

For the Chair, Cal Strong think it should either be:

• Steve Gladstone -- loves Cal. Made our last strong hire.
• Tom Holmoe -- loves Cal. Terrible Coach, but outstanding Athletic Director. Has history of picking strong coaches.

For committee members, Knowlton should select 2-4 strong individuals from this list:

• Ron Rivera: Loves Cal. Succesful coach.
• Jeff Tedford: Knows everyone in coaching world. His former OC/protege at Fresno is very strong head coach.
• Desean Jackson: We need a coach who can pull in blue chip talent. Desean knows what this means and what this looks like.
• Keenan Allen: Same reason as Desean.
• Kyle Boller: Big time recruit. He knows the difference between a strong Cal HC and a weak Cal HC. Presumably he has time on his hands.
• Mike Pawlawski: Strong choice.

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

Gladstone probably a good choice but old. Rivera yes. Paws yes. Boller, Jackson and Allen hard no. The first two based on apparent intellect (or lack) and Allen bc of the way he came to Cal and probable taint from the failed JT years. I'd replace all three with Cam Jordan. Smarter, more successful and part of a winning Cal program.

All a pipe dream, however. Lip licker stays in all probability and if he doesn't, the selection will be made in the most ridiculously inane way possible. The people in charge don't have what it takes to do the right thing, and the influence of donors has waned to nothing. They'd have more leverage if students and young alums cared, but the administration sees the handwriting on the wall with that one. Football isn't in Cal's future.

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On what do you base your conclusion that Jackson (and Boller) lacks (lack) intellect? You realize that Desean Jackson was math major at Cal and he made it through three years (or maybe 2.5?) years at Cal as a student in good standing, right? I was under the impression that the math courses at Cal are rather challenging for most students, let alone those who play varsity football. I'd be highly surprised if someone who "lacks intellect" could survive a semester, let alone five or six as a math major. But I'm sure you have evidence that Desean Jackson lacked intellect, right?

Also, did you really describe an intelligent black man as "articulate?" Really?!?! You do know that's very coded language (read, dog whistle), right?

If this board is any example of the Bears fandom, no wonder highly rated minority recruits are hesitant about coming to Cal.

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Thinking of this sort is a major reason this country is being driven over a political and social cliff.

Yes, I referred to Cam Jordan as articulate in the same way I would refer to Andrew Luck as articulate and Brett Favre as inarticulate (in the extreme), and have many times before. Presentation skills are, or should be, valued and should not be racialized, as you're doing here to advance a tired and destructive agenda.

As for Jackson, I have no idea where your claims are coming from. I understood that he was a social science major (as if that matters), and that's how calbears.com lists him as of its 2013 update. Regardless, that has no bearing whatsoever on his suitability for a search committee, a matter that's debatable on many fronts and ultimately of no consequence.

Forget perceived dog whistles, talking points and codes and start thinking critically and on your own. Group think is doing you grave harm.

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After his antisemitic posts i, I don't think DeSean Jackson should represent the university or football team by sitting on coach selection committee.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/13/where-are-consequences-desean-jacksons-rant-against-jews/

Here we go again.

This board has gotten a whole lot more on topic when the Bears took a nose dive. Swallow hard, and stay with the flow.

hanky1: loves Cal. Hates Cal fans.

I would suggest we go after Urban Meyer. But he's somebody who is too into the grind.

okaydo said:

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I would suggest we go after Urban Meyer. But he's somebody who is too into the grind.

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What does this mean? He's a coffee lover?

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I would suggest we go after Urban Meyer. But he's somebody who is too into the grind.

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What does this mean? He's a coffee lover?

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Damn, Urban might not make it too much longer. Look at his face.

Urban said he should have left when they girls wanted him to get on the dance floor. Got to be careful playing in that snow with only a tOSU pullover on. Full video of his apology https://t.co/Dc5YBhKwWl pic.twitter.com/Q9RQPuPNDI

— Robert Littal BSO (@BSO) October 4, 2021

If we're throwing out names of former players we'd like to see on a hypothetical selection committee, what about Russell White? One of the most exciting Bears during my life as a fan, a blue chip recruit who has seen the difference between a successful coaching regime and one that was... less of a success, and someone who knows how much work you have to put in on the academic side to thrive, as well.

Then again, I'm all for just kicking the current staff to the curb and handing over the keys to Troy Taylor.

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I would suggest we go after Urban Meyer. But he's somebody who is too into the grind.

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What does this mean? He's a coffee lover?

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Damn, Urban might not make it too much longer. Look at his face.

Urban said he should have left when they girls wanted him to get on the dance floor. Got to be careful playing in that snow with only a tOSU pullover on. Full video of his apology https://t.co/Dc5YBhKwWl pic.twitter.com/Q9RQPuPNDI

— Robert Littal BSO (@BSO) October 4, 2021

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Oh. Betcha he wishes it was only about coffee. Damn bxtches.

I don't think Tedford would be included on such a committee since our APR went into the toilet on his watch. The Cal administration was not amused, which is a gross understatement.

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Why would you want people on a selection committee that left your organization on bad terms? No to TH and JT for that reason. Also, if TH was the personification of a poor head football coach (catastrophically bad on-field performance with off-field academic issues), why would you think he'd have any meaningful input in choosing (dramatic pause)....a head football coach?

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Tom Holmoe has been a first-rate AD at BYU and hired their head coach. Hard to argue with that call. I think the better question is why in the world he would want to help Cal potentially pick his own pocket.