If Oregon's football program is a dumpster fire, what does that make Berkeley's program?

I am tempted to say I told you so, although, I should not.

Go Bears!

71Bear said:

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dimitrig said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Well, not just a DC who has never been a P5 head coach, but a guy who hasn't been a head coach ANYWHERE and just got the DC job in 2019.

This is the type of gamble Cal might (should?) take.

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SHOULD take, when the time comes….

Of course, it won't happen because the guy doing the hiring has a phobia about creative thinking. He would be more comfortable with someone from Retread Tech…..

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Yes. If Knowlton was hiring a new head football coach for Cal today, it might be someone like Matt Wells, who did fairly well at Utah State several years back, before being fired by Texas Tech a few months ago. That would be a very Fox-y hire for Knowlton to make.

But the delusional "fire Wilcox today" crowd must think Knowlton would hire the next Nick Saban.

BearSD said:

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71Bear said:

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dimitrig said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Well, not just a DC who has never been a P5 head coach, but a guy who hasn't been a head coach ANYWHERE and just got the DC job in 2019.

This is the type of gamble Cal might (should?) take.

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SHOULD take, when the time comes….

Of course, it won't happen because the guy doing the hiring has a phobia about creative thinking. He would be more comfortable with someone from Retread Tech…..

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Yes. If Knowlton was hiring a new head football coach for Cal today, it might be someone like Matt Wells, who did fairly well at Utah State several years back, before being fired by Texas Tech a few months ago. That would be a very Fox-y hire for Knowlton to make.

But the delusional "fire Wilcox today" crowd must think Knowlton would hire the next Nick Saban.

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I was thinking someone like Charlie Weis but, yeah, Wells sounds about right, too.

Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Wasn't Chip Kelly a offense coordinator at power house New Hampshire before being hired by Oregon. I think so.. Kelly sure damaged their reputation at that time but it was repaired fairly quickly.

Besides everone know Oregon has 85 million to play with. This new coach is not getting all of that so they can afford to go shopping for a high octane offensive coordinator.

GOLDEN said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Wasn't Chip Kelly a offense coordinator at power house New Hampshire before being hired by Oregon. I think so.. Kelly sure damaged their reputation at that time but it was repaired fairly quickly.

Besides everone know Oregon has 85 million to play with. This new coach is not getting all of that so they can afford to go shopping for a high octane offensive coordinator.

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Belloti was the Oregon head coach who hired Chip Kelly from New Hampshire to be his OC. Kelly first was a huge success as Oregon's OC before the internal promotion to Oregon HC.

Tosh show 'em.

BearSD said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Exactly, Going outside your program to hire a coordinator who has never been a head coach is what you do if you are Cal or Oregon State. It's not what you do if you are the conference's alleged king of the hill.

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Like when Oklahoma hired Florida's DC?

The Oregon AD was very stupid not to go after Tedford hard before he signed with Fresno State. It would have been a strong match. Tedford would have led that team to a Pac-12 title before leaving in 2-3 years because of health issues . . . at which point Oregon could have been at the front of the line for that year's coaching search.

Cal Strong no know much about Dan Lanning. But he no seem to have much experience or ties to either Oregon or the West Coast.

This seem like weak hire for Oregon. Strong news for Cal.

ducktilldeath said:

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BearSD said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Exactly, Going outside your program to hire a coordinator who has never been a head coach is what you do if you are Cal or Oregon State. It's not what you do if you are the conference's alleged king of the hill.

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Like when Oklahoma hired Florida's DC?

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Clemson's. But the point remains the same.

calbear80 said:

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I am tempted to say I told you so, although, I should not.

Go Bears!

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Who said he wouldn't be the guy? The guy who broke the story has a solid reputation. There was little doubt it would play out in the manner it did.

https://thesundevils.com/sports/football/roster/coaches/kenny-dillingham/366

calbear80 said:

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I am tempted to say I told you so, although, I should not.

Go Bears!

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Nice use of a paralipsis!

GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Nice use of a paralipsis!

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thanks for the new word, had to duckduckgo it..
> A pretended or apparent omission; a figure by which a speaker artfully pretends to pass by what he really mentions; as, for example, if an orator should say, "I do not speak of my adversary's scandalous venality and rapacity, his brutal conduct, his treachery and malice."

ducktilldeath said:

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BearSD said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Exactly, Going outside your program to hire a coordinator who has never been a head coach is what you do if you are Cal or Oregon State. It's not what you do if you are the conference's alleged king of the hill.

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Like when Oklahoma hired Florida's DC?

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Wait, you are a real Oregon fan? Have you been combing through the fan sites for every other school in college football looking for comments about Oregon's new football coach?

GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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It always gives me a laugh when I see people use a paralipsis. I actually learned about it during a class at Cal.

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This would be the wrong time and place for me to criticize other schools' fan sites for providing no user edification beyond sports knowledge and opinions.

Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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It always gives me a laugh when I see people use a paralipsis. I actually learned about it during a class at Cal.

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This would be the wrong time and place for me to criticize other schools' fan sites for providing no user edification beyond sports knowledge and opinions.

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I agree with you and I am also not going to bring up the shortcomings of other schools' fan sites. The inability of the fans on those sites to provide intellectually stimulating content beyond opinions related to football is not a topic that I think is worth mentioning.

GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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It always gives me a laugh when I see people use a paralipsis. I actually learned about it during a class at Cal.

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This would be the wrong time and place for me to criticize other schools' fan sites for providing no user edification beyond sports knowledge and opinions.

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I agree with you and I am also not going to bring up the shortcomings of other schools' fan sites. The inability of the fans on those sites to provide intellectually stimulating content beyond opinions related to football is not a topic that I think is worth mentioning.

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Without me mentioning the few posters who just contribute drivel here, let me just say that you need to post more on BI.

GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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calbear80 said:

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I am tempted to say I told you so, although, I should not.

Go Bears!

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Nice use of a paralipsis!

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I have to confess, I had to look up the meaning of "paralipsisi". None of my classes for three engineering degrees at Cal (or the management in Harvard) thought me that word. So, thank you for the education.

Go Coach Wilcox!

Go Bears!

71Bear said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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BearSD said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Exactly, Going outside your program to hire a coordinator who has never been a head coach is what you do if you are Cal or Oregon State. It's not what you do if you are the conference's alleged king of the hill.

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Like when Oklahoma hired Florida's DC?

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Clemson's. But the point remains the same.

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I meant Bob Stoops.

BearSD said:

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ducktilldeath said:

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BearSD said:

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Golden One said:

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dimitrig said:

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Could be a good thing for Cal.

1. He is a DC. Why would a team known for high powered offense want a DC as head coach?

2. He is really inexperienced.

3. Even though he did coach at ASU he really has no West Coast ties.

4. He is known as one of the best recruiters in the country, but I am not sure recruiting is Oregon's biggest problem.

I think he fizzles. Seems like a real reach for a school like Oregon.

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Seems hard to believe that Oregon wouldn't reach higher than a DC who has never been a P5 head coach. It would be a real blow to their reputation as the premier program of the Pac-12 if the report is true.

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Exactly, Going outside your program to hire a coordinator who has never been a head coach is what you do if you are Cal or Oregon State. It's not what you do if you are the conference's alleged king of the hill.

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Like when Oklahoma hired Florida's DC?

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Wait, you are a real Oregon fan? Have you been combing through the fan sites for every other school in college football looking for comments about Oregon's new football coach?

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Before everything went paywall fans of teams used to interact. I've "known" people on this board for almost 20 years. Sorry if that doesn't meet with your approval. More likely you just don't like getting called out for saying something stupid.

Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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It always gives me a laugh when I see people use a paralipsis. I actually learned about it during a class at Cal.

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This would be the wrong time and place for me to criticize other schools' fan sites for providing no user edification beyond sports knowledge and opinions.

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I agree with you and I am also not going to bring up the shortcomings of other schools' fan sites. The inability of the fans on those sites to provide intellectually stimulating content beyond opinions related to football is not a topic that I think is worth mentioning.

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Without me mentioning the few posters who just contribute drivel here, let me just say that you need to post more on BI.

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Thanks. That was a good decision by you to not mention the posters that just contribute drivel. I used to post more often. I have visited the board recently to see what was happening with recruiting and the players entering the transfer portal. I am hoping recruiting ends better than where it is right now.

calbear80 said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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calbear80 said:

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I am tempted to say I told you so, although, I should not.

Go Bears!

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Nice use of a paralipsis!

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I have to confess, I had to look up the meaning of "paralipsisi". None of my classes for three engineering degrees at Cal (or the management in Harvard) thought me that word. So, thank you for the education.

Go Coach Wilcox!

Go Bears!

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My pleasure. Go Bears!

GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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It always gives me a laugh when I see people use a paralipsis. I actually learned about it during a class at Cal.

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This would be the wrong time and place for me to criticize other schools' fan sites for providing no user edification beyond sports knowledge and opinions.

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I agree with you and I am also not going to bring up the shortcomings of other schools' fan sites. The inability of the fans on those sites to provide intellectually stimulating content beyond opinions related to football is not a topic that I think is worth mentioning.

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Without me mentioning the few posters who just contribute drivel here, let me just say that you need to post more on BI.

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Thanks. That was a good decision by you to not mention the posters that just contribute drivel. I used to post more often. I have visited the board recently to see what was happening with recruiting and the players entering the transfer portal. I am hoping recruiting ends better than where it is right now.

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Nobody really contributes drivel here. I made that up as an example to practice my paralipsi.

Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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Big C said:

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GoldenBearofCalifornia said:

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It always gives me a laugh when I see people use a paralipsis. I actually learned about it during a class at Cal.

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This would be the wrong time and place for me to criticize other schools' fan sites for providing no user edification beyond sports knowledge and opinions.

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I agree with you and I am also not going to bring up the shortcomings of other schools' fan sites. The inability of the fans on those sites to provide intellectually stimulating content beyond opinions related to football is not a topic that I think is worth mentioning.

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Without me mentioning the few posters who just contribute drivel here, let me just say that you need to post more on BI.

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Thanks. That was a good decision by you to not mention the posters that just contribute drivel. I used to post more often. I have visited the board recently to see what was happening with recruiting and the players entering the transfer portal. I am hoping recruiting ends better than where it is right now.

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Nobody really contributes drivel here. I made that up as an example to practice my paralipsi.

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Nicely done! Practice makes perfect.