Super Bowl LVI

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Oski87
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9 bay area counties: Marin, Sonoma, Solano, Alameda, Contra Costa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, San Jose.






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Eastern Oregon Bear said:

okaydo said:

I live about 11 miles from Sofi Stadium.

I was sick and exhausted all day and made it to halftime before I fell asleep.

At about 7 p.m., I was awoken to the sound of fireworks.

I said to myself, "wow, those Sofi Stadium fireworks are loud."

Then I noticed that the fireworks were coming from all different directions.

So my second thought was, "wow, I had no idea there were so many Bengals fans in my neck of the woods."



So, what can you say? Obviously, it couldn't have gone any worse for Goff. I didn't think the Rams were the best team all season because, well, they struggled against Goff and the Lions.

Anyway, I'm glad this season is over...I have increasingly less interested in college football and the NFL. I mean the games. The odd thing is I think I'm more interested these days in the behind-the-scenes stuff than the actual games themselves. I'm not giving up on football, obviously, but I'm so glad this season is over. And I hate that it ended a week later than usual. Hopefully, they don't add another week....but if they do, at least a lot of people will have President's Day off.
I heard yesterday before the game that if the Rams won, they were planning to set off fireworks at Dodger Stadium, the Coliseum and West Hills Mall. I don't live down there or know the geography that well, but it could have seemed like fireworks were going off all around you. Supposedly if the Bengals won, the Bengal fans after party was going to be in Hollywood.

I live in an area that gets a lot of fireworks (as many pet owners on my NextDoor can attest -- though my cat doesn't personally care). The Thanksgiving and Christmas Eve fireworks rival the 4th of July and New Year's Eve fireworks. Plus, there is a lot of Hollywood events where they just have fireworks going off. So it's not surprising to see people want to shoot off their fireworks for a Rams victory.

(A few years ago, a shopping mall five miles from me, owned by the head honcho at USC who might be L.A.'s next mayor, set off a fireworks extravaganza to kick off the Christmas season. And it sounded like planes were dropping bombs from the sky as if it was the blitz.)
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Oski87 said:

9 bay area counties: Marin, Sonoma, Solano, Alameda, Contra Costa, San Francisco, San Mateo, Santa Clara, San Jose.






This ^
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This thread. . .

"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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Oski87's map is considered the "Immediate" bay area. The "Greater" Bay area extends to Sacramento north & Saratog/Los Gatos south. As an exec in the ad agency in the 80's & '90's, the term "Greater Bay Area" for these areas was always used by my peers.
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Dgoldnbaer said:

Oski87's map is considered the "Immediate" bay area. The "Greater" Bay area extends to Sacramento north & Saratog/Los Gatos south. As an exec in the ad agency in the 80's & '90's, the term "Greater Bay Area" for these areas was always used by my peers.

The nine Bay Area counties are named as such because each one touches the bay (at least a little).

Just goes to show you, there are no official boundaries, borders or exact definitions for "areas" such as the Midwest, the Deep South, the Bay Area and LA. (folks from SoCal may take issue on that last one).

Interesting, actually. I've always found it especially interesting how people's definitions of the Midwest differ.
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Big C said:

Dgoldnbaer said:

Oski87's map is considered the "Immediate" bay area. The "Greater" Bay area extends to Sacramento north & Saratog/Los Gatos south. As an exec in the ad agency in the 80's & '90's, the term "Greater Bay Area" for these areas was always used by my peers.

The nine Bay Area counties are named as such because each one touches the bay (at least a little).

Just goes to show you, there are no official boundaries, borders or exact definitions for "areas" such as the Midwest, the Deep South, the Bay Area and LA. (folks from SoCal may take issue on that last one).

Interesting, actually. I've always found it especially interesting how people's definitions of the Midwest differ.
Does Napa count? You could argue it also touches the bay, and it's on the map.

EDIT: Oh wait, it does count. Your original post had "San Jose" as a county.
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It was almost 90 degrees 2 days ago in Socal.

Now it's hailing.





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I wouldnt doubt it.
The pain on Burrow's face when he crumpled to the turf spoke volumes.
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It was odd that Carson Wentz got to hold the Lombardi after the game.

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AunBear89 said:

This thread. . .



That's me reading your posts.
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bearister said:

My favorite hiding place is in a used SUV in the back of the lot furthest from the lights.





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That was a jerk move - walks away after she falls while his wife is the only one that is concerned. Shows what kind of person he really is.
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Rtkbear said:

That was a jerk move - walks away after she falls while his wife is the only one that is concerned. Shows what kind of person he really is.


A total ******.
That was pathetic.
I dont care how hammered he may have been.
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NFL to Eminem: "Do not kneel."

Eminem: "This opportunity comes once in a lifetime"
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DiabloWags said:

Rtkbear said:

That was a jerk move - walks away after she falls while his wife is the only one that is concerned. Shows what kind of person he really is.


A total ******.
That was pathetic.
I dont care how hammered he may have been.



Wow. Now I have an actual reason to dislike Stafford. He showed ZERO concern or empathy and did nothing.
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calumnus said:

DiabloWags said:

Rtkbear said:

That was a jerk move - walks away after she falls while his wife is the only one that is concerned. Shows what kind of person he really is.


A total ******.
That was pathetic.
I dont care how hammered he may have been.



Wow. Now I have an actual reason to dislike Stafford. He showed ZERO concern or empathy and did nothing.


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" NFL hires Lynch: Former U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch will help the NFL defend itself in the racial discrimination lawsuit filed by Brian Flores." Axios

Cynical and shameful.
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As an ex-Chargers fan, I hate the NFL. For other reasons, too.

But I just don't get it. I watched maybe 15 minutes of the Super Bowl and I am annoyed by so many things.

- Football is meant to be played outdoors, on grass, in the elements. Like we all played on the neighborhood lot when we were 11 years old. The playoff games of the past couple of weeks prior to the Super Bowl were absolute classics, and most visually looked fantastic. Grass. Snow. Mud. Rain. I find it very odd that Beckham Jr hurts his knee, which to me (I'm biased) clearly was a result of artificial turf, yet the narrative is that Sofi Stadium is sooooooo coooooooool, so nobody says a damn thing about playing indoors on fake grass in freaking sunny and warm Los Angeles. And do fans really want a GIANT replay board hovering over their head, showing tweets and various ****ing smile cams? If this is what fans want, then I guess I no longer fit in. Fans truly want Jerry Jones domes around the nation? SMH.

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.

- To me, the game always feels like a letdown, and I know many other people feel the same way. The solution? Quit taking a week off between the conference championship game and the Super Bowl. And the game should be played at the home stadium of whichever team had the better record. In the outdoors. Rant off.
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"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." -- (maybe) Benjamin Disraeli, popularized by Mark Twain
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

As an ex-Chargers fan, I hate the NFL. For other reasons, too.

But I just don't get it. I watched maybe 15 minutes of the Super Bowl and I am annoyed by so many things.

- Football is meant to be played outdoors, on grass, in the elements. Like we all played on the neighborhood lot when we were 11 years old. The playoff games of the past couple of weeks prior to the Super Bowl were absolute classics, and most visually looked fantastic. Grass. Snow. Mud. Rain. I find it very odd that Beckham Jr hurts his knee, which to me (I'm biased) clearly was a result of artificial turf, yet the narrative is that Sofi Stadium is sooooooo coooooooool, so nobody says a damn thing about playing indoors on fake grass in freaking sunny and warm Los Angeles. And do fans really want a GIANT replay board hovering over their head, showing tweets and various ****ing smile cams? If this is what fans want, then I guess I no longer fit in. Fans truly want Jerry Jones domes around the nation? SMH.

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.

- To me, the game always feels like a letdown, and I know many other people feel the same way. The solution? Quit taking a week off between the conference championship game and the Super Bowl. And the game should be played at the home stadium of whichever team had the better record. In the outdoors. Rant off.

--There is backlash to having artificial turf. But it won't matter. Many of these stadiums are used for concerts and other big events, so they can't use natural grass. (Unless they're the Raiders and Cardinals, which rolls out their natural grass outside the stadium.

Anyways, games in the past were played on sh*ttier turf.




--I get it. I'm annoyed that the 2028 Olympics Opening Ceremony won't be in the Coliseum, like the 1932 and 1984 L.A. Olympics. But it is what it is.

--The Super Bowl has grown bigger than ever in the last 2 decades. Super Bowl host cities plan for *years* to host the event. Remember, you have to have thousands of vacant hotel rooms. You have to have Homeland Security plan for the worst. You have to have a big Super Bowl Extravaganza in the City of the game. You can't do that on a whim. You can't decide to play a game in a city with one or two week's notice. It's the same reason, you can't expect a team to fly out to the Super Bowl destination 2 days after winning their conference championships. It was done before, but it can't be done anymore.

--The #MeToo movement was about stopping sexual misconduct. Women dancing shaking their booties is, believe it or not, about female empowerment. How is it all that different from Mick Jagger or Elvis Presley shaking their crotches? Were you upset with Prince's ***** stunt at his Super Bowl halftime?

--The 12 songs from Super Bowl halftime were released in the following years:

2000
1995
2002
2001
2001
2012
2015
1999
2002
1995
1999

--Olivia Rodrigo, one of the biggest artists in "Today's popular music" with 2 billion views on her YouTube channel, was alive for *2* of those 12 songs.

--Billie Eilish, another big star in "Today's popular music" with 11 billion views on her YouTube channel -- which is nearly *double* The Beatles' and Elvis Presley's YouTube channels *combined* -- was alive for 4 of those 12 songs.

If you are truly a "huge music fan," you should be thrilled that the the most popular music genre in America was the focus of the Super Bowl halftime show for the first time. It's about time.


--The Super Bowl has become a major spectacle because it offers different things to different people -- except my parents, who never watch. If you want to reduce it to just a football game, then it will attract maybe 60 million to 70 million people (slightly more than the conference championship games) instead of 112 million people. Most people don't care. I was out and about 8 miles from SoFi stadium roughly 3 hours before kickoff and there were a lot of people outside oblivious to there being a football game on.
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The fact that host cities prepare for *years* in order to host the event is emblematic of the problem: The Super Bowl is an over-hyped, over-commercialized extravaganza that has fooled millions of gullible Americans with no taste into thinking they enjoy it. But hey, to each his own: Many would find my interest in Cal Football and Basketball to be ridiculous, too.
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Big C said:


The fact that host cities prepare for *years* in order to host the event is emblematic of the problem: The Super Bowl is an over-hyped, over-commercialized extravaganza that has fooled millions of gullible Americans with no taste into thinking they enjoy it. But hey, to each his own: Many would find my interest in Cal Football and Basketball to be ridiculous, too.

At least you can't usually accuse Cal sports of being over-hyped.
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Chapman_is_Gone said:

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.
You seem to have a strange idea of what the Me Too movement was actually about. It had nothing to do with scantily-clad performers. It was about exposing harassment and assault towards women (well, really everyone, but mostly women).

You talk about the Mary J. Blige performance. Who do you think approved those outfits and that choreography? You think any of that was forced on Blige? It seems pretty obvious to me that it was her choice to dress that way and to have the dancers look like that. Nothing misogynist about a woman making her own choices here, whether you like those choices or not.

And of course, none of this was "today's" music. Most of these songs are decades old. Mary J. Blige has been a popular artist since 1992 . . . 30 years ago.
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sycasey said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.
You seem to have a strange idea of what the Me Too movement was actually about. It had nothing to do with scantily-clad performers. It was about exposing harassment and assault towards women (well, really everyone, but mostly women).

You talk about the Mary J. Blige performance. Who do you think approved those outfits and that choreography? You think any of that was forced on Blige? It seems pretty obvious to me that it was her choice to dress that way and to have the dancers look like that. Nothing misogynist about a woman making her own choices here, whether you like those choices or not.

And of course, none of this was "today's" music. Most of these songs are decades old. Mary J. Blige has been a popular artist since 1992 . . . 30 years ago.


Yeah, I laugh at the people talking about this year's half time show being "young people's music" when it is music/ artists from the 80s and early 90s mostly. It would be like a Super Bowl in the 1980s talking about Elvis or Frank Sinatra in the same way. Dre is 57. Snoop is 50. Mary J is 51.
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calumnus said:

sycasey said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.
You seem to have a strange idea of what the Me Too movement was actually about. It had nothing to do with scantily-clad performers. It was about exposing harassment and assault towards women (well, really everyone, but mostly women).

You talk about the Mary J. Blige performance. Who do you think approved those outfits and that choreography? You think any of that was forced on Blige? It seems pretty obvious to me that it was her choice to dress that way and to have the dancers look like that. Nothing misogynist about a woman making her own choices here, whether you like those choices or not.

And of course, none of this was "today's" music. Most of these songs are decades old. Mary J. Blige has been a popular artist since 1992 . . . 30 years ago.


Yeah, I laugh at the people talking about this year's half time show being "young people's music" when it is music/ artists from the 80s and early 90s mostly. It would be like a Super Bowl in the 1980s talking about Elvis or Frank Sinatra in the same way.


It is in Super Bowl terms.

The Super Bowl had the Rolling Stones on as recently as 2006.

That is about 40 years after their peak.


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calumnus said:

sycasey said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.
You seem to have a strange idea of what the Me Too movement was actually about. It had nothing to do with scantily-clad performers. It was about exposing harassment and assault towards women (well, really everyone, but mostly women).

You talk about the Mary J. Blige performance. Who do you think approved those outfits and that choreography? You think any of that was forced on Blige? It seems pretty obvious to me that it was her choice to dress that way and to have the dancers look like that. Nothing misogynist about a woman making her own choices here, whether you like those choices or not.

And of course, none of this was "today's" music. Most of these songs are decades old. Mary J. Blige has been a popular artist since 1992 . . . 30 years ago.


Yeah, I laugh at the people talking about this year's half time show being "young people's music" when it is music/ artists from the 80s and early 90s mostly. It would be like a Super Bowl in the 1980s talking about Elvis or Frank Sinatra in the same way. Dre is 57. Snoop is 50.

Yup, though I shouldn't have said that "none" of it was today's music. Kendrick Lamar performed one song and he is fairly current. Everyone else is a legacy act for sure.
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dimitrig said:

calumnus said:

sycasey said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:

- I happened to turn the game on during the halftime show and turned off the TV after literally laughing out loud and shaking my head. What I saw was Mary J Blige and about six other black women sticking their asses out in as prolonged and provocative a pose as imaginable. Have some class, ladies. I ask: When will self respect and the "me-too" movement make it unacceptable for such blatantly disgusting and misogynistic displays to be blasted across America? I am a huge music fan, and I go to see tons of live music (mostly rock and Americana), and I have tremendous respect for the talented females who make it in the music business without whoring themselves out. Today's pop music ****ing sucks. SMH.
You seem to have a strange idea of what the Me Too movement was actually about. It had nothing to do with scantily-clad performers. It was about exposing harassment and assault towards women (well, really everyone, but mostly women).

You talk about the Mary J. Blige performance. Who do you think approved those outfits and that choreography? You think any of that was forced on Blige? It seems pretty obvious to me that it was her choice to dress that way and to have the dancers look like that. Nothing misogynist about a woman making her own choices here, whether you like those choices or not.

And of course, none of this was "today's" music. Most of these songs are decades old. Mary J. Blige has been a popular artist since 1992 . . . 30 years ago.


Yeah, I laugh at the people talking about this year's half time show being "young people's music" when it is music/ artists from the 80s and early 90s mostly. It would be like a Super Bowl in the 1980s talking about Elvis or Frank Sinatra in the same way.


It is in Super Bowl terms.

The Super Bowl had the Rolling Stones on as recently as 2006.

That is about 40 years after their peak.





But when the Stones were on in 2006, no one would say "I can't understand what these young people are listening to, with that Mick Jagger being all sexually provocative and thrusting out his pelvis."
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There's no point in discussing anything remotely serious on here, not with people immediately twisting words and the difficulty and time-consuming nature of going back and forth. But I can say that not one of the points you people have made are remotely interesting and certainly nothing I am not already aware of. You seriously think I'm not aware of the silly argument that women whoring themselves out on stage is liberating and an expression of their freedom and their power?

So, I'll stop on this topic. Enjoy your **** pop music with that fat black ass poppin'. Cuz that's what it's all about -- that's quality. Power to women!




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Chapman_is_Gone said:

You seriously think I'm not aware of the silly argument that women whoring themselves out on stage is liberating and an expression of their freedom and their power?

So, I'll stop on this topic. Enjoy your **** pop music with that fat black ass poppin'. Cuz that's what it's all about -- that's quality.

Your choice of words here says more about you than the women in question.
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Chapman_is_Gone said:


Enjoy your **** pop music with that fat black ass poppin'.

Would you write that sentence differently if you had a do over?
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B.A. Bearacus said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:


Enjoy your **** pop music with that fat black ass poppin'.

Would you write that sentence differently if you had a do over?

Would Juwan Howard have kept his hands to himself, if he had a do over?
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Big C said:

B.A. Bearacus said:

Chapman_is_Gone said:


Enjoy your **** pop music with that fat black ass poppin'.

Would you write that sentence differently if you had a do over?

Would Juwan Howard have kept his hands to himself, if he had a do over?
"Super Bowl LVI was remembered for just two things: Matthew Stafford and his wife walked away from a photographer who could have just died and Chapman_is_Gone used 'black ass' in a sentence without any second thoughts. It was the first time that phrase had ever been used on BI."

 
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